A four-minute sit-down with Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch

Conservative Party leader Kemi Badenoch in a white shirt and navy suit blazer. Image source, PA Media
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Ahead of this autumn's party conferences, BBC London's political editor Karl Mercer is sitting down with leaders, or deputy leaders, for four minutes each to discuss some of the key issues facing the capital and what their party might do to tackle some of them.

Here, he interviews Kemi Badenoch, leader of the Conservative Party.

KM: "People keep voting for him [Sir Sadiq Khan] in a way that they are not voting for the Tories in London. The party here, it would seem, has given up on the capital."

KB: "Absolutely not. We do not give up anywhere. We may not win everywhere, but we don't give up.

"One of the things that I keep saying is that lots of people are winning elections by making promises that they cannot deliver.

"You look at what Sadiq Khan has done on housing, for example. House-building in London has plummeted. This is our capital city. This is where the infrastructure is.

"Instead, Labour is trying to put houses in the countryside in places that lots of people can't get to."

KM: "Does that mean you would oppose his plans to build on the green belt? You say no building on London's green belt?"

KB: "Their plans are a big mess. When I came in as shadow housing secretary after we lost the election, we had a historic defeat last year, I told Angela Rayner that she was not going to be able to deliver the plans that she was talking about.

"They said they would deliver 1.5m homes, we delivered 1m in the last parliament. They are behind what we delivered. Their plans don't work.

"All they're saying about green belt or not green belt, their planning changes, none of it is going to work. It's pie in the sky. They have no proper plans."

KM: "Let's talk about where the party is in London. You are at a historic low in the number of councillors, 400 out of the 1,800.

"And one of your senior Tory colleagues who I was speaking to a couple of weeks ago, I asked her about the elections coming up, and the response was we're going to get mullered and you're going to get mullered by Reform in London."

KB: "No we're not. What I'm telling people is that the path back takes time.

"After a historic defeat, losing lots of seats, we know that there's going to be a lot of uphill travel in order to convince the public. But that's what we're doing right now.

"What we cannot do is cede ground to parties that have no plans and are just making random announcements."

KM: "So you're not going to lose councils in London to Reform?"

KB: "We are the only party that is competent enough to deliver a stronger economy, stronger borders.

"You talk about councils, Reform won councils. I was in a by-election in Newark in Nottinghamshire just a couple of weeks after, because the councillors had given up.

"They said they were going to cut spending, they're asking for more money. That is not serious. We cannot have people who think that this is all a game. We need to show that we deliver properly.

"We're going to be winning back councils in London. That is what I want to see happen. We are coming back. People have seen Labour cannot deliver. They need Conservative government."

KM: "I mean, to be fair, you say coming back, you have nine MPs in the capital out of 75."

KB: "Yes, but we know this. We had a historic defeat last year, our worst defeat ever.

"That's happened under previous leaderships. I need to draw a line under 14 years. We're starting afresh.

"The Conservative Party is renewing. We're working to rebuild trust. I'm changing our policies. That means that some people won't like them. We will lose people along the way.

"But I'm delivering common-sense conservative principles that people recognise - authentic, traditional conservatism."

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