BBC Homepage
  • Skip to content
  • Accessibility Help
  • Your account
  • Notifications
  • Home
  • News
  • Sport
  • Weather
  • iPlayer
  • Sounds
  • Bitesize
  • CBBC
  • CBeebies
  • Food
  • More menu
More menu
Search BBC
  • Home
  • News
  • Sport
  • Weather
  • iPlayer
  • Sounds
  • Bitesize
  • CBBC
  • CBeebies
  • Food
Close menu
BBC News
Menu
  • Home
  • InDepth
  • Israel-Gaza war
  • War in Ukraine
  • Climate
  • UK
  • World
  • Business
  • Politics
  • Culture
More
  • Tech
  • Science
  • Health
  • Family & Education
  • In Pictures
  • Newsbeat
  • BBC Verify
  • Disability
  • Trending

#BBCtrending: Amateur fans of Serial podcast investigate true-life murder

  • Published
    4 December 2014
Share page
About sharing
Serial website screengrabImage source, other
BBC Trending
What's popular and why

It's one of the most popular podcasts ever, and amateur detectives are trying to get to the bottom of the true-life murder at the heart of it. But how is social media sleuthing influencing the case and the real people caught up in it?

Serial, external is a spin-off of the US public radio programme This American Life, external. (If you're already among its legions of devoted fans you can skip this paragraph.) For nine episodes it's been re-investigating the case of Hae Min Lee, a teenager who was murdered in Baltimore. Her ex-boyfriend Adnan Syed was convicted of the murder and has been in prison for the past 15 years. In a huge journalistic undertaking, Serial's producers, led by Sarah Koenig, external, have examined the case from nearly every angle.

And because it's a real-life crime, the series has inspired fans to start their own investigations. A section of reddit devoted to Serial, external has attracted more than half a million users, and fans have been hunting for clues both online and at key locations in and around Baltimore.

"I was hooked from the beginning," says one reddit moderator who goes by the handle "wtfsherlock". His real name is Mike and he lives in California, but he didn't want to reveal any more than that to BBC Trending.

Amateur detectives have dug up and shared links to the criminal records of witnesses, pointed out similar cases, external nearby and have even travelled to the Best Buy electronics store at the centre of the case, to try to track down evidence of a pay phone, external that a key phone calls allegedly came from.

line

Serial podcast stats

  • 20 million total downloads; 2.23 million per episode

  • Fastest podcast ever to reach 5 million iTunes downloads

  • Top of the podcast charts in the US, UK, Germany, Australia and elsewhere.

Sources: Serial, Apple, iTunescharts.net

line

Mike says he's done some fact-checking himself. In an early episode, it was revealed that a potential witness might have been able to provide an alibi for Adnan Syed when she claimed to remember seeing him just before a snowstorm.

"I went and looked back at National Weather Service data, external, and it showed there was no snow on that day at all - it was actually quite warm," he says. "There was a storm, but it was the next day."

The weather discrepancy was later noted in a Serial blog post, external.

The producers of Serial, citing deadline pressure, said they didn't have time to answer our questions about how social media has affected the course of the series. In a New York Times interview, external, Sarah Koenig said she was surprised at the popularity of the podcast and denied that feedback was guiding the future of the series. But she also said producers were keeping one eye on the online conversation.

Reddit Serialpodcast pageImage source, Reddit
Image caption,

Reddit has a section devoted to Serial

"I'm not looking at reddit. But we do have people on the staff who are dipping into it to make sure there's nothing crazy on there or something we're missing - they might know something we don't."

But Mike, aka wtfsherlock, thinks the social media discussion has influenced the course of the series. For example, one of the recent discussion points on reddit and elsewhere has been about the lack of comment by Hae Min Lee's family. Episode nine, external then included a passage in which Sarah Koenig detailed the lengths the podcast's producers have gone to find family members, including hiring two private detectives and Korean-speaking researchers.

Adnan SyedImage source, AP
Image caption,

Adnan Syed

"In my 20 plus years of reporting, I've never tried so hard to find anyone," Koenig said of Lee's mother. "I learned a few days ago that they [the Lee family] know what we're doing. My best guess is they want no part of it, which I respect."

Mike says reddit moderators have had some minimal contact with the producers and that he understands why they haven't leaned more on reddit for research tips.

"They are very much doing their own thing," he says. "I think it would be very risky for Serial to say, 'could you find out where so-and-so lives?' Because people would do it. And that would be problematic."

Mike says that moderators do their best to delete personal information leaked on the forum - although with so many posts many details have been leaked online - and the subreddit rules clearly ban posting such information about any of the characters mentioned in the podcast.

"It's a weird situation because reddit's policy is 'no personal information'," he says. "Well here we have a real-life story, with real-life names, that are being broadcast by podcast to millions of people every week.

"Our policy has been to keep people from revealing things [about individuals] that aren't revealed publicly by the podcast, and particularly keeping last names out of the discussion."

Serial on reddit

But Jim Trainum, a former detective hired by Serial to look at the case, told BBC Trending that online speculation could have serious implications for the people involved in the case.

"Because of this frenzy, it does impact lives adversely," he says. "Jumping from A to Z with no steps in between, making assumptions based on gut reaction … too often a rumour takes on a life of its own and soon becomes a fact."

The activity on reddit is so frenetic that it even attracted someone claiming to be Hae's brother, external, who wrote an emotional plea asking people to leave the family alone.

If the podcast producers are concerned about the privacy of the Lee family and the podcast's interviewees, they have more than social media to worry about.

Personal details including Facebook pictures of key witness Jay - Serial producers scrupulously refer to some characters by first name only - have been posted on the Daily Mail website (and no, we're not going to link to it).

As for Adnan Syed, a court is currently reconsidering, external his case. That appeal, which started in September and is centred around whether he received adequate legal representation at his original trial, has little to do (so far) with the drama unfolding on Serial.

The next edition of the podcast will be available Thursday - but if you're a listener, you knew that already.

Blog by Mike Wendling, external, Ruth Alexander and Gemma Newby

Reporting and graphic by Ravin Sampat

You can follow BBC Trending on Twitter @BBCtrending, external

All our stories are at bbc.com/trending

Top stories

  • Live. 

    Mushroom lunch murderer jailed for life as sole survivor calls for 'kindness'

    • 8705 viewing8.7k viewing
  • Huge drugs bust reveals battles on cocaine 'superhighway'

    • Published
      5 minutes ago
  • Ex-sergeant major admits sexually assaulting soldier who took her own life

    • Published
      37 minutes ago

More to explore

  • In pictures: Blood Moon captivates sky-gazers around the world

    The red "Blood Moon" rises beside a skyscraper in Shanghai
  • I live in a different country from my husband but we're still happily married

    A woman with sunglasses on sitting on a chair
  • 'Barrack to square one' on asylum and 'stop making mistakes'

    The front pages of Metro and the Guardian.
  • When I left the military I felt quite alone: Female veterans call for more support

    Two photos show Bex in combat fatigues (on the left) and as a civilian now (on the right)
  • One of the world's most sacred places is being turned into a luxury mega-resort

    The mountains at dusk, from Jebel el Ahmar in 2024. Light hits the top of a rocky mountain range, which stretches into the distance
  • Carlo Acutis: From a baptism in London to the first millennial saint

    A woman in a crowd at the Vatican, wearing a white T-shirt and a pale blue baseball cap holds up a portrait picture of curly-haired Carlo Acutis, wearing a red jumper with blue collar, with the white handles of a backpack showing
  • Jamie Borthwick axed from EastEnders after 19 years

    Jamie Borthwick
  • Inflatable tanks and flat-pack guns - inside Ukraine's decoy war

    An inflatable tank in Ukraine
  • Market ructions and cabinet reshuffles will help shape Reeves' Budget

    Chancellor Rachel Reeves, wearing a powder blue suit, standing with her hand over some model houses which are just seen in front of her
loading elsewhere stories

Most read

  1. 1

    Ex-sergeant major admits sexually assaulting soldier who took her own life

  2. 2

    'Barrack to square one' on asylum and 'stop making mistakes'

  3. 3

    I live in a different country from my husband but we're still happily married

  4. 4

    'Overwhelming support' after JD Vance walkout

  5. 5

    'He put his hand down my tights': Sexual harassment widespread among barristers, review finds

  6. 6

    Five-day London Underground strike under way

  7. 7

    European leaders to visit US to discuss war in Ukraine, Trump says

  8. 8

    France is set to vote out another PM. Can anything break its political deadlock?

  9. 9

    Unions warn government not to water down workers' rights bill

  10. 10

    UK launches £250m defence strategy to boost jobs

BBC News Services

  • On your mobile
  • On smart speakers
  • Get news alerts
  • Contact BBC News

Best of the BBC

  • From rough diamonds to a highly polished scam

    • Attribution
      iPlayer
    Panorama
  • An explosive, tough action drama returns

    • Attribution
      iPlayer
    Dark Hearts
  • A revealing look into the life of boxer Tommy Fury

    • Attribution
      iPlayer
    Tommy: The Good. The Bad. The Fury
  • Star-studded, iconic, Oscar-winning mafia epic

    • Attribution
      iPlayer
    The Godfather
  • Home
  • News
  • Sport
  • Weather
  • iPlayer
  • Sounds
  • Bitesize
  • CBBC
  • CBeebies
  • Food
  • Terms of Use
  • About the BBC
  • Privacy Policy
  • Cookies
  • Accessibility Help
  • Parental Guidance
  • Contact the BBC
  • Make an editorial complaint
  • BBC emails for you

Copyright © 2025 BBC. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. Read about our approach to external linking.