Summary

  • The UK Covid-19 inquiry is in Cardiff to scrutinise the Welsh government's handling of the pandemic

  • The inquiry covers decision-making during the pandemic by the UK government and the devolved governments in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland

  • First Minister Mark Drakeford said in his evidence that Covid was 'not a top priority for Welsh government' in January and February 2020.

  • Wales' NHS boss Andrew Goodall also said on Tuesday that he was not invited to UK crisis Cobra meetings early in 2020

  • A total of 10,262 people in Wales have died due to Covid - with a further 2,289 deaths listing Covid as a contributing factor.

  • We’ll bring you text coverage here, and you’ll also be able to watch by pressing play at the top of the page

  1. That’s all for todaypublished at 16:31 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    Jack Grey
    BBC Wales News

    That concludes Tuesday's live coverage of the UK Covid Inquiry – we’ve heard from Dr Andrew Goodall, NHS Wales' boss during Covid and Public Health Wales boss Dr Tracey Cooper.

    Here’s what we’ve learned:

    • A mass testing centre was built in Cardiff without the Welsh government or Public Health Wales having any idea about it
    • First Minister Mark Drakeford says in written evidence that Covid was "not a top priority" until after February 2020
    • Wales' NHS bosses were not invited to early Covid Cobra meetings as there was a constraint on "attendance numbers", says Goodall
    • In written evidence, then-Health Minister Vaughan Gething says some of the PPE available in the early days of the pandemic was "not fit for purpose"
    • Goodall says that, with hindsight, the discharge of vulnerable hospital patients into care homes "could’ve been targeted differently"

    We'll be back at 10:00 on Wednesday when we'll be hearing from Dr Quentin Sandifer, a pandemic adviser for Public Health Wales.

    We hope you can join us tomorrow.

  2. 'No value' in testing care home residents with no symptomspublished at 16:24 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    Elderly woman getting testImage source, Getty Images

    Cooper is read back a letter she wrote in March 2020 in which she said there was "no value" in testing care home residents if they did not have Covid symptoms.

    Public Health Wales later changed its policy in light of new evidence on asymptomatic transmission.

    “At that point the case definition didn’t include residents in care homes, other than people who were symptomatic. The testing world was in different space," she says.

    "If someone had a negative test, it didn’t mean they weren’t incubating Covid. The world changed significantly as we went into April and May."

  3. We prepared for a much shorter pandemic, says PHW bosspublished at 16:08 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    Cooper says the scaling up of pandemic resources did not happen early on as nobody expected it to last as long as it did.

    “Dr Goodall mentioned earlier that he thought it might be initially a 13-week epidemic but of course by the time we got into [cases] heading up again by the middle of the year, that was the tipping point,” she says.

    “Towards the end of August we saw rates really kicking up again… then it was clear this was going to be a rolling pandemic.”

    By August, about 5,500 tests were being authorised a day, compared to 1,100 a day in the pandemic period up to the end of May.

  4. Cooper describes sobering realisation of pandemic’s scalepublished at 15:39 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    Owain Clarke
    BBC Wales Health Correspondent

    Woman during CovidImage source, Getty Images

    Cooper recalls the first discussion about Covid she had with Wales' chief medical officer Frank Atherton on 27 February 2020.

    She says they spoke about the situation in Italy and both realised the scale of the threat the virus would soon pose in Wales.

    She describes the conversation as "sobering" and suggested others found it difficult to "tangibly recognise what was coming".

  5. Drakeford shuts down Senedd questions on WhatsApppublished at 15:20 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    DrakefordImage source, Getty Images

    On Monday, the inquest heard that Jane Runeckles, First Minister Mark Drakeford's special adviser, switched on WhatsApp’s auto-delete function in November 2021.

    We will hear from Drakeford himself next week, however he repeatedly refused to answer questions in the Senedd on Tuesday about his use of WhatsApp during Covid.

    The outgoing first minister, who will step down in 11 days, says he will not offer a "preview" of the answers he will give the inquiry.

    The inquiry has heard claims that Drakeford regularly used the app, however he previously said he used it "very little".

  6. Welsh government 'didn't know' about Cardiff mass test centrepublished at 14:35 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    Cardiff City stadium test centreImage source, Getty Images

    A mass Covid test centre was set up in Cardiff during the pandemic without the Welsh government or Public Health Wales (PHW) having any idea about it, says Cooper.

    She says on about 1 April 2020, Deloitte, a private firm, informed PHW that it had set up a mass test centre at Cardiff City Stadium after being told to do so by the UK government.

    "Unfortunately, neither ourselves or Welsh government knew about that. I don’t know who made the decision," she says.

    She adds that over the course of “four or five days” PHW went from being unaware of the site's existence to staffing and running it.

    “The reason being it was there and we couldn’t not use it - but it hadn't been planned."

  7. How can you have your say?published at 14:17 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    We're back underway and Public Health Wales boss Dr Tracey Cooper is fielding questions from the inquiry - we'll be bringing you all the updates as they come throughout the afternoon.

    However, the inquiry is not just looking hear from politicians and health officials, it also wants to hear from you.

    Anyone can share their experience through the inquiry's Every Story Matters, external project.

    The Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice campaign group - which criticised the UK government's handling of the pandemic - urged the inquiry to ensure these voices are heard.

    All the public hearings are being streamed on the BBC News website and the inquiry's YouTube channel, external and witness transcripts are published on the inquiry website, external. Members of the public can also apply to attend in person.

  8. How many have died from Covid in Wales?published at 13:51 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    A total of 10,262 people in Wales have died due to Covid - with a further 2,289 deaths listing Covid as a contributing factor.

    • The first confirmed coronavirus case was on 28 February 2020 in Swansea from a patient who had travelled back from holiday in Italy.
    • The first death in Wales from Covid occurred on 15 March 2020 in a 68-year-old Wrexham hospital patient.
    • The first wave peaked with 73 deaths on a single day in April 2020.
    • Covid's second wave in the winter of 2020-21 brought 83 deaths on 11 January 2021 alone - the worst single day of the pandemic in Wales.
    • Nearly a fifth (17%) of all Covid deaths registered have occurred in care homes.
  9. What we've learnt so far todaypublished at 13:24 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    This morning we've heard evidence from Dr Andew Goodall, NHS Wales’ boss during Covid - here’s the key things we've learned:

    • The health service in Wales should have acted sooner in early 2020 and not relied so heavily on modelling, says Goodall
    • Inquiry counsel Tom Poole KC reports that First Minister Mark Drakeford said in written evidence that Covid was "not a top priority" until after February 2020
    • Wales' NHS bosses were not invited to early Covid Cobra meetings as there was a constraint on "attendance numbers", says Goodall
    • Some PPE available to the NHS early in the pandemic was "not fit for purpose", according to former Health Minister Vaughan Gething in his written evidence.

    After lunch we'll hear more from Dr Tracey Cooper, chief executive of Public Health Wales.

  10. Dr Tracey Cooper up next as inquiry breaks for lunchpublished at 12:59 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    Dr Tracey CooperImage source, Covid Inquiry

    Next to face the inquiry is Dr Tracey Cooper, Public Health Wales' boss since 2014.

    In May 2020, Cooper said she was "not familiar" with the Welsh government's then-target of 9,000 Covid tests a day, which the first minister described as "puzzling".

    The inquiry is now adjourning for lunch so we'll hear more from Cooper after 13:45.

  11. Initial PPE not fit for purpose – Gethingpublished at 12:48 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    PPEImage source, Getty Images

    Gething believed that a small amount of the PPE available during the initial weeks of the pandemic was "not fit for purpose", the inquiry hears.

    Bethan Harris, on behalf of the Bereaved Families for Justice Cymru, reads an extract of the former health minister's witness statement in which he said the government “underestimated how quickly the PPE stockpile would be used up".

    “Frankly... a small amount of our stockpile was not fit for purpose,” he added.

    Goodall tells the inquiry he agrees with Gething and the initial 13-week supply of PPE in Wales "ran down very quickly".

  12. What was the Welsh government's 'worst case scenario'?published at 12:35 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    Steve Duffy
    BBC Wales

    In early March, health officials were presented with modelling for a reasonable worst scenario, which projected a need for 900 critical care beds in Wales when there usually capacity for 152.

    The modelling was for more than half the Welsh population developing Covid symptoms with a “high proportion” needing hospital care, so NHS capacity in Wales would be "significantly exceeded".

    As pandemic progressed the first wave peaked at 164 Covid patients in critical care, as this chart shows.

    Covid chart
  13. Sending Covid patients to care homes could have been done differently – ex-NHS bosspublished at 12:15 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    Steve Duffy
    BBC Wales News

    Goodall says that, with hindsight, the discharge of vulnerable hospital patients into care homes "could’ve been targeted differently".

    He says it was about creating capacity in hospitals and there was some expectation that care homes could operate isolation procedures and provide a safer environment.

    He adds that his worries were that hospitals were areas where patients were likely to be exposed to Covid, so there was something about trying to "find the safest environment for people in our system".

  14. Analysis

    Was Wales too slow to react?published at 11:58 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    Owain Clarke
    BBC Wales Health Correspondent

    Covid sign in CardiffImage source, Getty Images

    One of the most significant lines of questioning concerns when the Welsh government fully realised the threat of the Covid-19.

    Goodall speaks of a “trigger point” happening in late February and early March.

    However, the inquiry asks whether that should have happened sooner, when evidence suggested the virus could be passed on even if someone wasn't displaying symptoms.

    On 13 March the Welsh government took the unprecedented step of cancelling pretty much all non-emergency NHS activity to free up all available capacity to deal with the virus.

    Asked whether enough thought was given to the knock-on effects on others, for example on people waiting for other treatments, Goodall says the NHS “may well have adjusted some of those decisions” if it had known the duration of the pandemic.

  15. We should have acted sooner, says Wales’ Covid NHS bosspublished at 11:45 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    Ben Price
    BBC News

    Goodall tells the inquiry that, in hindsight, action should have been taken sooner to prepare the NHS for the full impact of the virus.

    He says, prior to Wales' first case on 28 February, the NHS was relying on "worst case scenario" modelling and previous experiences such as the swine flu pandemic in 2009.

    "The reasonable worst case scenarios - there’s a danger of seeing them as the forecast, that they are likely and they will happen," he says

    "In fact, our swine flu experience told us different. Our reflections after that event was we couldn’t rely on our reasonable worst case scenarios."

  16. Covid not a top priority in early 2020 - Drakefordpublished at 11:24 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    Questioning Goodall, inquiry counsel Tom Poole KC says First Minister Mark Drakeford said in written evidence that Covid was "not a top priority for the Welsh government" in January and February 2020.

    Goodall says there was "a change, certainly in our response in Wales, that was in the last week of February and certainly into early March".

    Wales' first confirmed case of Covid was 28 February and the first death was recorded on 15 March.

  17. Wales' NHS boss not invited to Cobra meetingspublished at 11:07 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    Asked if he attended Cobra meetings in January and February 2020, Goodall says he "wasn't directly invited" and it was up to the minister or first minister who would accompany them.

    He says there was a constraint on "attendance numbers" which meant he was not able to go.

    Vaughan GethingImage source, Getty Images
    Image caption,

    Covid Health Minister Vaughan Gething was often seen at Cobra meetings in London during the early stages of the pandemic

  18. Covid military help was extraordinary, says Goodallpublished at 10:43 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    Member of the military with ambulance in Cardiff, December 2020Image source, Getty Images

    Goodall says military personnel drafted in to help with planning and logistics in the early weeks of the pandemic were “extraordinary”.

    "Importantly they weren’t just available to us in our national role, they committed their time and support to every individual health organisation in Wales."

    He says he was "really impressed" with their help planning field hospitals and later around vaccination planning.

  19. Who is Dr Andrew Goodall?published at 10:16 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    Dr Andew GoodallImage source, Covid Inquiry

    First up is Dr Andew Goodall, permanent secretary to the Welsh government - Wales' most senior civil servant.

    He is the successor to Dame Shan Morgan, who we heard from yesterday.

    She told the inquiry she had deleted "some" early WhatsApp messages about Covid as a form of "housekeeping".

    Before taking up his current role, Goodall was boss of the Welsh NHS throughout most of the pandemic.

    His choices and decision-making during that time are set to be scrutinised by the inquiry.

  20. Welcome backpublished at 09:59 Greenwich Mean Time 5 March

    Jack Grey
    BBC Wales News

    Good morning and welcome back to our live coverage as the UK Covid inquiry spends its second week in Wales.

    On Monday we heard from Wales former top civil servant Shan Morgan and both Wales’ chief medical officer, Frank Atherton, and chief scientific adviser for health, Rob Orford, here are the key things we learned:

    • Frank Atherton told the inquiry that Vaughan Gething, the then-health minister and current Welsh Labour leadership hopeful, incorrectly told the Welsh cabinet in February 2020 that no Covid had reached the UK when nine cases had been reported a week earlier
    • Atherton conceded that Wales should have copied England when it made face coverings mandatory in public places as the different rules became “problematic”
    • He also labelled the lack of information surrounding different UK restrictions during times of pandemic an "omnishambles"
    • The inquiry was told First Minister Mark Drakeford said locking down small areas during the autumn of 2020 was a "failed experiment”

    Today we will be hearing from Dr Andrew Goodall, Wales’ current top civil servant and Dr Tracey Cooper, the boss of Public Health Wales.

    You can follow the latest developments from the hearing here or watch it live by tapping the play button at the top of this page.