Debating Scottish independence in the Holyrood pub

Politicians in Edinburgh have spent two days debating whether to push for a second independence vote.

MSPs voted by 69 to 59 in favour of seeking permission for a referendum before the UK leaves the EU.

The Scottish Parliament building is known as Holyrood - so we set up our own two-minute version of their debate round the corner in the Holyrood pub.

Law student Katie Alden is 22 and says she'd vote to stay in the UK if there was a new referendum.

Brodie Williams is 25 and also a student. He wants Scottish independence.

Why do you hold the views that you do?

Brodie: I'm a pro-independence voter. Scotland should be able to decide how to run the country from within the country.

You can go through the nitty gritty but when it comes down to it, I just want to be free from Westminster.

Katie: I just think we're much better to be part of the UK, which has a strong economic backbone. To put up another border would be silly, and slightly naive.

The SNP says Brexit is pulling Scots out of the EU against their will, after 62% wanted to stay in Europe. Are those people being pulled out of the EU against their will?

Katie: I think the EU argument is slightly redundant. We know an independent Scotland would be pulled out of the EU regardless, as Spain has said they would not let us back in.

Circumstances are such that we need to make the best of Brexit both for Scotland and the UK as a whole.

The Scottish Parliament building in Edinburgh held its first debate in 2004

Brodie: It is going to be a hard Brexit. We're going to be hit pretty hard for something we never voted for.

But I do agree, it looks like we'll have to make the best of it, because Prime Minister Theresa May says she won't discuss independence until Brexit's done.

The pro-UK Scottish Conservatives say there should be no more 'playing games' over independence. Should the Scottish government focus more on things like struggling schools and hospitals instead of independence?

Brodie: I think they do. The country would fall apart if they were solely focusing on independence.

But the fight has to be there. Almost all of Scotland voted to stay in the European Union but we're being taken out against our will. What other way is there?

Katie: There were figures released last month saying Scotland's education system is lower in world rankings than ever.

There are issues with Police Scotland and hospitals. I feel like we need much more discussion about what's happening.

The SNP, backed by the Scottish Greens, are expected to win this vote to push for a second vote. The next step after that is for Prime Minister Theresa May to decide if - and when - a vote can go ahead. What should she do?

Nicola Sturgeon and Theresa May have met a few times to discuss a second Scottish independence referendum

Katie: I think she should say yes, but it should either be immediately, or five or six years down the line, once the effects of Brexit have been felt.

Brodie: It can't wait that long. This is our future we're talking about. Our future, and the next generation.

It doesn't have to be rushed. We should take our time, and make sure we win it.

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