Multiple dates, huge venues - so why is it so hard to buy gig tickets?

You’ve made it. You’re in your seat. Your favourite band opens in an hour.

But loads of your friends missed out despite the huge venue and multiple dates - why?

The hard truth is that for big acts there is often more demand than there is supply of tickets, but there could be other factors too.

New plans to curb touts by banning the resale of tickets for a profit could help music fans in the future, the UK government hopes. But there are other challenges when trying to secure entry to a gig.

We are about to explain what really happens in the scramble for seats - and give you video tips to boost your chances of getting that dream ticket.

The struggle for gig tickets – and how to beat the touts

It should be simple enough: select tickets, add to basket, and pay.

But for popular acts that is sometimes wishful thinking.

Live agents, promoters, consultants and venue managers have all shared their insights with us - revealing why ordinary fans sometimes battle against the odds to see the musicians they love.

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Every event is different but say the venue has seats for 70,000 people. It is very unlikely all those seats will go on sale to the public.

The same image with seat behind the stage missing completely and lots of individual seats mising from the rest of the stadium

Seats behind the stage often aren't sold. In addition, other seats may remain under the venue’s control rather than the music promoters who are staging the gig - sponsors may be able to access to them.

The same image with even more seats missing.

Then there are “holds” - seats that a promoter can set aside for competition giveaways, pre-sales, artists' friends and families and sponsors (who often help to make a gig financially viable).

The same image again but this time with just 5% of seats showing - the staging areas has expanded to include a catwalk.

Staging may also take up some space - giant screens or a catwalk to let the artist greet their adoring fans.

All that means sometimes only a tiny proportion of seats will be available when they first go on general sale.

There’s "no real golden rule" for how many tickets go on general sale, says Martin Haigh, a former head of Ticketmaster Asia who still works in the industry. It will depend on the artist and things like sponsorship deals. “There are a lot of stakeholders involved,” he adds.

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Haigh says it is not a conspiracy against the public.

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"These are commercial relationships done. If you are a fan of Adele and you are signed up to Adele's fan club, and in there they say you have potential to get hold of tickets before other fans, then that's the compelling reason to join that fan club," he says.

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But the shortage of seats isn’t the only problem you will face when the tickets go on sale.

You are shuffling forward in the virtual ticket queue.

Only 6,000 people in front of you - but all is not necessarily what it seems.

The chances are there will be touts among them.

Some will use technology to pretend to be multiple different people, using lots of different credit cards, to buy hundreds of tickets.

Some are also able to “queue-jump” and bypass virtual waiting rooms, ticketing security expert Reg Walker told us.

All of which increases their chances of a ticket over you. So, as you edge towards the front of the line, the number of available tickets dwindles at an alarming rate.

The touts are the target of the latest UK government proposals.

The methods they have been using to get large numbers of tickets have become increasingly sophisticated in recent years.

Some use bots - software that can perform repetitive tasks really quickly - to create multiple identities, IP addresses and email addresses all making it harder for ticket sellers to identify bulk buyers, Walker told the BBC's File on 4 Investigates last year.

More recently, Walker told us the appearance of AI-generated fake identities has made the problem worse. "These are incredibly difficult to detect and basically this is devastating systems,” he adds.

"As a fan, you've got no chance of being at the front of the queue no matter how early you get up, because this software is simply jumping around you."
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Even when ticket companies put systems in place to try to block the touts' software, the touts quickly find ways to bypass them. It can take them as little as 30 minutes to do it, Walker told File on 4 Investigates.

In 2023, Ticketmaster’s parent company Live Nation spent more than $1bn (£760m) combating bots, according to Joe Berchtold, its chief financial officer. He described the problem as "an ever-ongoing arms race in terms of fighting the bots".

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Once touts get their tickets, they can then use secondary ticketing websites to sell them on - typically with a mark up of more than 50%, according to Competition and Market Authority (CMA) analysis.

New research from Which? magazine found that some tickets to see Oasis at Wembley Stadium this summer were listed for as much as £4,442.

To stop this, the government is planning to limit the price that tickets can be resold for, to the "original cost", or face value, capping extra fees added by resale platforms "to prevent the price limit being undermined". It will also ban individuals from reselling more tickets than they were entitled to buy in the initial ticket sale.

Resale platforms will have a legal duty to monitor and enforce the new regulations.

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Dua Lipa has backed a campaign for a cap on ticket resale prices...
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...as have Coldplay and dozens of other artists

But for now, nothing is changing.

The government’s proposals - a week after dozens of artists including Sam Fender, Dua Lipa and Coldplay urged the prime minister to protect fans from exploitation - need to go through Parliament before they can become law.

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So, your friends failed to get the seats they wanted? They won’t be seeing their favourite band playing live? Or so they thought.

More tickets can sometimes be made available to meet the demand, explains one of Ed Sheeran’s tour promoters, Stuart Galbraith, owner of promotion company Kilimanjaro.

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Some seating will have been rearranged so Beyoncé could use a catwalk in her London shows this summer

The show might have changed some of the staging and more sightlines could have opened up, he explains, "then we will put more tickets in the marketplace".

“So it is possible for a show to go on sale, 'sell out' as you say, instantly,” says Galbraith, “and then more tickets are made available nearer the time”.

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We don’t know yet how the government's planned changes to ticket-resale rules might affect the industry. Resale sites have warned a price cap could push customers towards unregulated websites and social media, putting fans at increased risk of fraud.

However, industry group UK Music has welcomed the proposals, stressing that the industry "relies on that strong relationship between music fans and the artist" to survive.

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