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The debate: Are facial recognition cameras in Sainsbury's a step too far?

Sainsbury's is testing facial recognition cameras in two of its shops to crack down on shoplifting. If the eight-week trial goes well, they'll consider rolling it out to other stores.

Some other businesses already use the technology, which scans photographs of people's faces and searches for matches. But Sainsbury's is among the most high profile shops yet to deploy the technology. They say it will tackle retail theft, which has risen sharply in the UK in recent years. Others say it's an invasion of privacy. Here, four experts debate the details.

Meet the debate participants

“Facial recognition could reduce the likelihood of a huge amount of crime”
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David Spencer
Former DCI at the Met Police, now head of crime and justice at Policy Exchange
“So much theft is driven by addiction - cameras alone won’t solve that”
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Keeley Knowles
Once a shoplifter, now a drug outreach worker for West Midlands Police
“Using this to crack down on shoplifting is disproportionate”
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Matthew Feeney
Campaigner at Big Brother Watch
“This tech is biased and unregulated - we need laws to protect people”
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Kate Devlin
Professor of AI & Society, King's College London

So is this a genius move or a step too far?

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David
Former DCI at the Met Police

We’re in the midst of a property crime wave and retailers are on the front line. Shoplifting is up about 20% in the last year alone, and there are about 2,000 violent incidents against shop workers every day. It’s all having a huge impact.

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Matthew
Campaigner at Big Brother Watch

But using facial recognition to crack down on that is worrying when it’s not governed by primary legislation. We’ve heard from people who have been wrongly barred from shops due to misidentification, sometimes over alleged thefts as low as one pound.

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Keeley
Former shoplifter

Plus there are so many ways to beat facial recognition, like using a scarf to cover your face.

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David

We're not just talking about shoplifting of a £1 chocolate bar here though, but organised theft of thousands of pounds. When we looked at the cost of crime, the total cost was about £250bn a year, of which about £38bn is taken on by businesses.

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Kate
Professor of AI & Society

Yes, but with facial recognition there’s a risk of misidentification. These systems aren’t fool proof. The tech is biased.

Editor's note: Sainsbury's chief executive Simon Roberts says: “The retail sector is at a crossroads, facing rising abuse, anti-social behaviour and violence. We must put safety first.”

How much is misidentification really a concern?

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Kate

The problem with the AI is that much of it was created and optimised by people who haven't paid attention to anything outside their own demographic, and a lot was never trialled or tested on darker skin. So people from minority ethnic backgrounds are more likely to be misidentified. Over a decade of studies show this, yet it's still being used.

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David

Misidentification is an important issue but as a police officer, when we did identification parades, people were unreliable too. There’s no perfect solution.

A graphic showing how facial recongition technology works. Step one is image capture; step two is face detection, step three is feature extraction, step four is comparison and step five is verification.
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Matthew

And sometimes it's not even misidentification but pure vindictiveness. I heard a story from one, unnamed business of someone being uploaded to a “watch list” just because the shop owner didn't like them. We really are in the Wild West.

How effective is facial recognition as a deterrent to shoplifters?

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Keeley

You can come out with all the security in the world but if an addict needs to feed that habit, they’re going to find a way. Before this, there was CCTV - that was long used at the Bullring shopping centre in Birmingham, but it didn't stop me from stealing there. Over 70% of shop theft is because of addiction. Jail for addicts is pointless too. We go to jail, we come out, we do the same thing.

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David

I’d suggest there probably is a point in sending them to prison for longer periods of time.

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Keeley

I’ve been to prison 28 times in this country, it doesn’t work. Until you treat the root cause, which [for some] is the addiction, it won’t stop.

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David

But drug-related offending aside, there is also a huge amount of retail theft related to organised criminality. One retailer told me that their stores across two towns on the M62 motorway were targeted by the same gang in 24 hours, and they were able to identify them partially through facial recognition.

Shoplifting numbers rose from 444,022 offences in 2024 to 530,643 this year. What’s behind the spike?

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Kate

Self service tills have been identified as one reason. But stores are coming back to counter this by saying, let's add more automation to try and combat the problems that have been caused by automation in the first place. So, is the real problem here the lack of people and lack of investment in shop staff?

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Keeley

A person watching me is going to put me off a million times more than a camera or facial recognition.

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David

I certainly wouldn't be in favour of saying we should have no security guards in shops. But ultimately they operate in a tight financial margins environment.

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Despite these concerns about privacy and regulation, is it still worth it overall?

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David

We are still in a relatively early stage of the development of these technologies in terms of their deployment. Is that fair to say Kate?

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Kate

Kind of. They have been around for a bit of time now, but yes.

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David

But we've been using them a lot less than we have security guards and police officers arresting people. So, the debate about what the regulatory framework should look like is still at a relatively early stage.

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Kate

There are no plans for wide-ranging regulation in the UK, unlike the EU, where they’ve passed the AI Act. So, should we not be pausing this until we have some?

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Matthew

In the EU, the AI Act means it’s illegal for law enforcement to use facial recognition, unless they’re investigating a serious crime. Facial recognition should not be the response.

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Kate

Plus, there’s the fact that mass surveillance is being normalised, yet we don’t know what happens to the data. This technology is affecting our privacy. I'm not comfortable with that. Not because there's something to hide, but because privacy is important to maintain and I want to draw a line somewhere.

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David

But we live in a time where more data about us is collected by all sorts of organisations, and often we're not even aware it's happening. The reality is that the problem which retailers are facing is significant, and while facial recognition shouldn’t be the only tool used, it is one which can reduce the likelihood of this huge amount of crime.

Editor's note: Sainsbury's chief executive Simon Roberts says: “We have listened to the deep concerns our colleagues and customers have and they're right to expect us to act. We understand that facial recognition technology can raise valid questions about data and privacy.”

By Luke Mintz and Rosemary McCabe. Illustrator: Jodi Lai