Still, don't forget this series is still level at 1-1. And I seem to recall that England were thrashed at Lord's a decade ago, before going on to Edgbaston. That turned out to be quite a good game.
We go again a week on Wednesday. See you then.
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Wisden editor Lawrence Booth: Australia in that Test were twice as good as England with both bat and ball: 820 for 10 wickets plays 415 for 20.
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Chris Whelan: Any other sport a team is picked based on form. Iif a player is out of form they get dropped. No one should be picked based on merit because that will simply not win a match. With this new brand of cricket Hales is a must.
"Three positions are a problem: opening batsman, Ian Bell and the spinning department. You can add Gary Ballance. But the problem is, who do you put in their place? You have to ask whether a player has the ability to go up a gear and match the higher quality of international cricket. I can't come up with any great names.
"My instinct tells me England will ponder it for a few days and then come up with exactly the same team. They're not sure who to put in. Ian Bell will be playing on his home ground anyway. I'm not saying I'm happy about that, but England don't like changing."
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Here's some slightly better news... Ireland have joined Scotland in qualifying for the World T20 in India next year. Ireland top Group A of the qualifier after beating Jersey by seven wickets in Malahide earlier and were assured of top spot when Namibia lost to Hong Kong. Scotland qualified by topping Group B. Despite being guaranteed a place at the World T20 proper, both Ireland and Scotland continue to take part in the qualifier. Both advance to the semi-final stage.
Player reaction
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Australia bowler Mitchell Johnson, on Sky Sports: "We're very happy with the result. The good thing about this Test is that we played well in partnerships, both bowling and batting.
"To end the game like that was unbelievable. We've been bowling well as a group for a while. The first Test woke us up a bit and seeing more bounce here fired us up.
"It was a flat wicket but there was more bounce there than at Cardiff. We were able to use the conditions with the new, hard ball. The pitch quickened up as it went on."
"In the early spells by Johnson and Starc, batsmen were playing injudicious shots - flirting outside off stump in a situation where we were trying to save the match. Ian Bell played and missed, Joe Root was hit on the head hooking second ball. We don't seem to be switched on to trying to bat five sessions."
"It could be interpreted as a seismic blow. It had the look of what happened in Australia 18 months ago, when Australia swarmed all over England. England just couldn't get out of it - it was a strangulation, a capitulation."
Man of the match
Australia's Steve Smith: "It was a good wicket. We started well on day one and my partnership with Chris Rogers put us into a good position and we kicked on from there. I was keen to do well here. I haven't had a good run with the bat here at Lord's. It was nice to get some big runs. I feel good at the crease at the moment. I have to be patient, watch the ball closely and make the bowlers come to me, where I want them to bowl."
Man of the match Steve Smith on TMS: "The guys came out with a lot of steam. The bowlers were aggressive and put the ball in some really uncomfortable areas for their batsmen.
"Cardiff was a big wake-up call for us, and this game we dominated from day one and we didn't let England back in. Being top of the player rankings doesn't bother me, the most important thing is contributing to winning games of cricket for this team. It's very satisfying to bounce back the way we have, but we know that England are going to come back strongly."
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In the England dressing-room, batting coach Mark Ramprakash is deep in conversation with Gary Ballance. During the match, players and staff are not allowed their phones to guard against corruption. They have them back now and most are engrossed in the little screens.
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Ali Thomson: To all these people saying Bairstow should be back in the team, remember, he can't play the short ball.
Chris Hawkins: Bairstow has scored another ton he's not just knocking on the door he is smashing it down.
Australia captain Michael Clarke on TMS: "The way we turned our performance around for Cardiff shows the talent and the hunger of this team.
"I don't think the toss played too much of a part, but we started the game really well.
"We're 1-1 in a five-match series, so we're going to have to keep playing our best. The boys executed really well with both bat and ball. Mitch has done exactly what we knew he'd do, he's had a really good start back into the team."
England's heaviest defeats against Australia (by runs)
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562 at The Oval, 1934
409 at Lord's, 1948
405 at Lord's, 2015
384 at Brisbane, 2002
382 at Adelaide, 1894-95
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Lee Bird in Devon: I hope Trevor Bayliss locks the team somewhere in Lord's and points out every single weakness and mistake they've made. No-one leaves until they've watched the video. Take it on the chin and come back for the next Test with some aggression and bottle.
Captain's view
More from Michael Clarke: "That's the advantage of having Mitchell Johnson. He's so fit and a great athlete. We have asses the wicket and game situation. The rest of the attack allowed Mitch to do that.
"Chris Rogers is still getting checked now. He probably thinks we cost him a hundred today.
"I'd like to be 2-0 up, but will accept where we are now. We have to 100% ready to go for the third Test."
Captain's view
Australia captain Michael Clarke: "I couldn't have asked for a better performance. The intent from our batsmen through the second innings was great and the execution from the bowlers was spot on."
"We didn't really talk too much about Cardiff. Our focus was playing our best cricket here. We didn't play our best there, but now we can look in the mirror and say we played some good cricket here.
"Mitchell Marsh played really well. He showed how much of a team player he is. He took two crucial wickets in the first innings. credit to the selectors for going with their gut. It was hard on Watto, but the selectors have to work out the best 11 for each game."
"I didn't see it coming. This is good a pitch as you'll ever get to save a Test on and I thought they could take it tomorrow afternoon. It should have been easy to defend and stay in.
"Some of the batting was pretty poor and the attitude to saving the game was poor. Ballance doesn't look comfortable - he seems so stuck and rigid on the back foot. We helped Australia blow us away."
"Australia couldn't have dominated any more from the moment they won the toss."
Captain's view
England captain Alastair Cook: "To not back up our win at Cardiff is incredibly frustrating. Credit to Australia, they put us under pressure and we weren't able to deal with it. We didn't bowl with the same discipline and control. Over the last few games, we have been three down for 40-odd and that is an area of concern.
"We have to take this on the chin. Now it's about the character we need to show to bounce back. We came up short this week. I don't think it's about where people bat, it's down to the players, they just have to get stuck in. You've seen over the last eight days that the side which gets on top stays on top. I want a good, old English wicket at Edgbaston."
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Joshua Baxter: The Bayliss honeymoon has come to a crashing end. The magnitude of his job has now become painfully clear.
Andy Field: Superb effort by England, managing to play that badly over the whole Lord's test.
Rich Harrison: England batsmen are simply scared stiff of aggressive bowling and can't deal with it. Embarrassing.
More from Alastair Cook on TMS: "Backing up a win is something we haven't been able to do the last four times, which is incredibly frustrating. You can jump to all kinds of conclusions, but it's 1-1 - I can't quite work out why we didn't back up Cardiff but we have a few days off and we come to Edgbaston and we've got to show some character."
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England, by the way, have now lost 10 of their last 20 Test matches, winning only six.
"Mick Hunt has been preparing great cricket pitches for a number of years with more pace than this and I don't believe Alastair Cook. I think they want slow pitches to negate the two Australian fast bowlers but it's negating the English bowlers instead.
"If you have fast bowlers, you have a better chance of getting people out on good, batting pitches because they are quicker through the air."
England captain Alastair Cook on TMS: "It was a very disappointing day. It's sunk in, when you get bowled out for 100, it isn't good enough. It's frustrating not being able to match the standards we set at Cardiff.
"Credit to Australia for getting ahead of the game and never letting us back in. We haven't asked for wickets to be like this, we want good English wickets with a little bit in them.
"But at the end of the day that's absolutely irrelevant because both sides play on the same wicket and if you're outplayed in all three aspects of the game, you're not going to win."
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Kendall: Bairstow sneezing centuries at the moment, has to come in for the next test.
Nick: Woeful from England cricket team. Gone from convincingly beating Australia to being humiliated in the next test.
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Australia all-rounder Mitchell Marsh on Sky Sports: "You always hope for things like that to happen but it was fantastic. We were keen to bounce back after that first Test. Johnno's spells were as hostile as you will get in Test cricket."
"I thought England might have shown a bit more fight. They just capitulated. They'll take a lot of scars into the next game. Mitchell Johnson looked lethal out there. The new blokes brought a lot of energy - Peter Nevill had a great first Test match, Mitchell Marsh had an incredible match.
"Potentially, there are changes to be made for England. Ballance has struggled a fair bit and Bell is under pressure. But the first thing is to produce a good cricket wicket and back your team."
It begins...
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Australia bowler Josh Hazlewood, speaking to Sky Sports: "We worked hard in the first innings. We bowled in the right areas again. Mitchell Johnson bowled some hostile spells for us and opened it up for us. He bowled superbly."
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Will Moody: I expect a 4-1 series thrashing if England don't improve their batting for the next match. Nothing but pathetic today.
Adrian Clarke: That is a drubbing the England team of my early 90s childhood would be proud of.
Chris Ivory: Talent, yes. Guts, fight, implementation, and pride, none. What happened since Cardiff? Heads need cracking together.
"If it was a boxing match we would have got knocked out in the first round. We got knocked down and we stayed down. We never made a fight of it. Before we started this series, we knew we had a problem with opening bat, we knew we had a problem with the spinner and we knew that Bell was in poor form. There aren't that many people queueing up who say 'Pick me, I've got a bit of class.' Who is the player who stands out as a top opener, a top spinner, a replacement for Bell? If you're honest, it's not too easy."
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Where does this Ashes series go from here? To highlight the importance of this win for Australia, 13 of the last 14 Ashes series have been won by the team that won the second Test. We're effectively into a three-match series, but Australia have both the momentum and the benefit of being Ashes holders. England have it all to do before Edgbaston next week.
2015 Ashes level at 1-1
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Australia are led off the pitch by Steve Smith, the England players are down the stairs to shake hands. The Aussie staff are in the Long Room, greeting their players. Some turnaround from a week ago. Just looking at the England scorecard, Stuart Broad top-scored with 25. Says it all.
"I'm absolutely amazed. Terrific performance by Australia but if you're in the England dressing room you've got to ask yourself what the hell went on. There was no pace, bounce or spin in the pitch. You wouldn't get a much better pitch than this to save a Test match on. The sun was shining. They just had to stay in, be mentally strong and take the sting out of the bowling. They should have been able to take it into tomorrow afternoon. It's extraordinary to get bowled out like that. Some of the batting was really, really poor."
"There could not be a more comprehensive victory. Australia have won in the most spectacular way."
Australia win by 405 runs
Anderson b Hazlewood 0 (Eng 103 all out)
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All over in the splattering of James Anderson's stumps. Australia win by 405 runs, their third biggest win in terms of runs in Ashes history. England, so buoyant after Cardiff, have been humiliated at Lord's. The Aussies stand in the middle and applaud their fans. They have conquered the home of cricket.
"I'd probably persist with Gary Ballance. You've got to give Adam Lyth another go. Ian Bell could be the one to go."
Eng 103-9
To put the difference between the teams into perspective, Australia are 820-10 in this match. England are 415-19. Maybe if England had another two innings, they would get to parity. I don't know how true this is, but there's rumours the Aussie fielders have said to Anderson "beer afterwards, Jimmy?"
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Nick Hunt: England have been totally outclassed.
David White: No pride shown in wearing the three lions. Long hard looks in the mirror needed.
Fergus Fraser Hafter: RIP English cricket.
Eng 102-9 (Aus need 1 wicket)
As it stands, this would be England's third-largest defeat in terms of runs against Australia. Still sunny at Lord's, the beautiful picture totally at odds to the carnage of the last 36 overs. How long ago does the win at Cardiff seem? England have been spooked by Mitchell Johnson once more. Who could galvanise this team?
"Australia look a stronger side with the two changes they made for this Test. I can't see how that's going to happen for England."
Eng 101-9 (Aus need 1 wicket)
James Anderson walks to the crease as I'm told one bookie has England 16-1 to win this match. Are you kidding? I'd want about 160,000-1 and even then I'd say it was stingy.
"England's performance this afternoon has been amazingly poor. I can't believe we could get bowled out so quickly, so poorly, on what was a lovely pitch to make a fist of it."
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Start the car. Josh Hazlewood into the attack, ball keeps a little low, Joe Root's off stump pegged back. The demolition of the timbers not unlike the steamrolling Australia have done to England in this match. Root can barely drag himself off the pitch. He looks distraught.
"This is a game where nothing has gone right for England. What's happened on the pitch has been disappointing from the first ball to the last one."
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Broad c Voges b Lyon 25 (Eng 101-8)
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It's hard to blame Stuart Broad, because those above him are more culpable, but this is still something of a surrender. In the same over hitting Nathan Lyon for a straight six, Broad plays a horrible waft to find Adam Voges at cover. One one hand, there's nothing wrong with the number playing some shots, but there's a time and a place.
"I can scarcely remember an innings where a wicket looked less likely to fall than Australia's innings. I can scarcely remember an innings where wickets looked more likely to fall than this England innings."
Eng 91-7 (32 overs left in the day)
It's no stretch of the imagination to say this Test match has almost been like watching two different sports. Australia bat, a wicket as rare as hen's teeth. England bat, the gate on the boundary replaced with a revolving door. Root still battling, hooking Johnson for four.
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Michael Inch: And Broad in 7 balls is England's highest run scorer, what a shambles!
Phil Gilman: Think we might have to burn the stumps after this horrendous surrender.
Sally Smith: Rabbits in headlights... intimidated by the scoreboard and pure panic from some of the team.
Eng 87-7 (Aus need 3 wickets)
Stuart Broad is flashing the blade, adding a touch of, well, not respectability. Something. Nathan Lyon's off-breaks, Broad looking to carve anything that moves through the off side. A decent result for Broad, he's given Root the strike for Johnson's next over.
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Tom Ferry: Compton, Taylor, Footitt in, Lyth, Bell and Anderson (no show!) out. Ballance stays as there isn't anyone else!
Steven F Galloway: I'd put Moeen Ali in to open with Cook and Rashid at 8, drop Lyth, and scour the country for anyone called Mitchell.
Eng 82-7 (target 509)
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Remember the winter of 2013-14? The terror every time Johnson got the ball in hand, expecting a wicket when he stood at the end of his run? Thought he was stuffed on slow English decks? Think again. This is raw, hostile, nasty fast bowling. Prowling run, low arm, spitting short ball at 88mph that almost amputates Stuart Broad's arm.
Falling like dominoes
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Gordon Thursfield: What did Johnson have for tea? Raw meat sandwiches swigged down with diesel?
Eng 70-7 (Aus need three wickets)
Selection can be about timing and you often become a batter player when you're out of the team. Step forward Jonny Bairstow, who has just completed another hundred for Yorkshire. His mate Joe Root, eyewitness to the carnage, remains in the middle, pulling Nathan Lyon for four. Now Stuart Broad must face up to Mitchell Johnson.
"The scary thing is, this pitch is an absolute belter."
Eng 64-7 (Johnson 8-2-11-3)
Mercifully for England, the Johnson over is done. Looking again, Moeen was completely done for pace, thinking about hooking, then not really doing anything. We've said this pitch was dead, that the bowlers could get nothing from it. Well, England's bowlers got nothing and their batsmen are 445 runs short of what Australia got after the tourists declared twice. Bad batting, unthreatening bowling? Both?
"It's such a tame dismissal. It was a poor shot, the field was telling him what delivery he was going to get. If you take that shot on, there's only ever going to be one winner."
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Moeen c sub (S Marsh) b Johnson 0 (Eng 64-7)
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So tell me about this plan to nullify Mitchell Johnson with a dead pitch? Because, right now, his fire and brimstone is sending England over the edge like lemmings off a cliff. Short and hostile to Moeen Ali, a fend to the waiting hands of short leg. It's that simple. Johnson has two in the first over after tea and England are being humiliated.
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Richard Wilkinson: Go home England, you're drunk...Or just useless…Probably both. Can't wait to hear Cook's excuses later.
Michael Inch: And that just sums up our day, why not chase another wide one!
Beach Bum: Buttler as terrible as Bell, Ballance and Lyth at the minute. If you were this bad at work, you get sacked. So should this lot.
Eng 64-6
There was no need for Jos Buttler to play at that delivery. It was angled across him from the left-armed Johnson, wide and going wider. First ball after the break, maybe leave it alone. Moeen Ali is the next man into the firing line.
"It was short and outside off stump, Buttler could have left it, no feet, no conviction, he just fiddled it through to the keeper."
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Buttler c Nevill b Johnson 11 (Eng 64-6)
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You've got to be kidding. The first ball after tea! Mitchell Johnson, just loosening up, explores the channel outside off stump. Jos Buttler, lead in his boots, meekly pokes an edge through to wicketkeeper Peter Nevill. This is a spineless surrender from England.
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David in London: Please put Boycott into the dressing room and lock the door. Then broadcast it. That'll sort them out!
Eng 64-5
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Australia, to a man, have smiles as wide as the Tasman Sea. Alastair Cook sits alone on the England balcony, suffering in silence. Mitchell Johnson has the ball, Jos Buttler is in line to fend off the thunderbolts.
Let's be frank...
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The bell tolls, summoning the players for the final session of the day. Last rites, or desperate claw into Monday?
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I'm not one for knee-jerk reactions, but England have been three for spit in eight of their last 10 Test innings. Is the microscope on Lyth, Ballance, Bell or all three? If they go, who comes in? Is the cupboard full, or bare? What would your team be for the next Test at Edgbaston?
Looking on the bright side
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There are 37 overs left in the day, plus another eight if Australia ask for the extra half an hour. England have only faced 28 and have half their men back in the hutch.
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What on earth happened there? It's 18 months ago, all over again. At least then we had the option to sleep through. Australia have made this pitch look so docile, you feel like giving it a cuddle, while England's implosion has been inept. As for the run out of Ben Stokes, not running his bat in in order to not be hit with the ball? Village.
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John in Swindon: The potential margin of this inevitable Australia victory will put England's 169 run win in Cardiff into an uncomfortably sharp perspective.
Ian: I'm not one for knee jerk reactions, but really, what has to happen before Ian Bell's place is under threat? He's got a great record, but so has David Gower. Doesn't mean he should be batting at four in the next Test.
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With that cheery note from Oliver, it's time for me to sign off. Here's Stephan Shemilt.
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Oliver Clark, Bahrain: I don't know which element of England's performance has upset me most.... The lack of penetration and hostility with the ball? The amount of runs hemorrhaged through not having a third man/fine leg for most of the 200 overs in the field? Or is it the top order twice giving away their wickets through a lack of discipline and application? Stokes schoolboy error just now the icing on the cake.
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Would it break any sort of laws to chuck Boycott into the England dressing room and lock the door?
"There was some poor thinking cricket from England. Australia have been hostile, but you'd expect that. You don't expect Alastair Cook to play such a poor shot. You just have to stick in there and bat sensibly. It's very, very disappointing."
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Rob in Manchester: The signs were there in England's second innings in Cardiff. Lost wickets when should've been grinding down the Aussies. Complete lack of mental strength. Unless drastic changes are made, this series could be over well before the Oval.
What about the weather?
Could the weather help England tomorrow? Not looking likely...
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Shloime Rose: On my way to Asda to buy a new screen. Threw my mug at it when Stokes was out.
David in Cheshire: This is one of the most disgraceful and pathetic performances that I've seen in decades of watching England. Changes have to be made, and Stokes needs a kick up the bum for that schoolboy error. Dreadful.
Tea - Eng 64-5
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What is Trevor Bayliss going to be saying at tea? Is he the type to throw some of Lord's finest china about.
Suggestions for replacements in this England team include Zafar Ansari, Scott Borthwick, Adil Rashid... what's the criteria? Spin-bowling all-rounders? Moeen Ali would fit into that team too.
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Dr Rashmin Tamhne: Peter Nevill, Aussie wicket-keeper, has 6 wickets so far in this match: is he heading to a world record for debutant wicket-keeper?
Good question Rashmin. The answer is he may well be. He needs two more dismissals to equal the record of eight, jointly held by Australia's Brian Taber and England's Chris Read.
Eng 60-5 (Root 4, Buttler 8)
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We've just had a quick look to see where this would rank in England's all-time heaviest defeats. Let's just say there's been a few. OK... a lot. Being an England cricket fan can be tortuous at times. Jos Buttler edges four through third man but that's very inconsequential now.
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Nathan Vickers: Not sure why Bell is invincible for selection. One flash of brilliance then 6-12 months of dross. Bell, Lyth and Ballance for chop.
Alexander Chilton: Time for Taylor and/or Morgan to come into the team for the next test? Lyth, Ballance and Bell totally out of form.
"You've got to run your bat in. He was afraid of getting hit. That is bad cricket. The way England have played, they don't seem to be up for the fight."
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Can it get any worse? Yep... it probably can. Ben Stokes is run out by Mitchell Johnson's direct hit from mid-on. Replays show he didn't ground his bat, despite getting back to his crease in time. He looks like he was trying to avoid being hit by the ball. Awful.
England look like they've been gorging themselves on Collapso Soup in the dressing room.
Eng 52-4 (Lyon 4-2-5-1)
Ben Stokes.. has he edged to first slip? No, the ball misses everyone and everything and runs for four byes.
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Tom C: Don't think wholesale changes are the way to go, but might be worth considering Rashid into side with Moeen moving up order.
Hillel: Surprisingly few fans seem to realise that dropping players isn't always the answer.
Adam Mansell: It's (nearly) 1-1. Why do our fans have to throw toys out of the pram? Australia are a good team. Keep the same 11 and win the next un.
"Ian Bell doesn't play defensively very well. He's not capable of blocking, blocking, blocking like Cook. He's better when he's a little fluent, maybe just driving along the floor to mid-on for one. It was very good bowling from Lyon though."
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Bell c sub (S Marsh) b Lyon 11 (Eng 48-4)
Indeed the end could come tonight. Three maidens in a row and then Ian Bell pops up a catch to bat-pad off the spinner. This series is as good as 1-1 now.
Eng 48-3 (target 509)
Mitchell Marsh is taking some notable scalps in his Test career. His first Test wicket was Shikhar Dhawan and, in this Test, he got out Alastair Cook and Ben Stokes when well set and now Gary Ballance. Bright future.
After shaking up Joe Root with a helmet rattler early on, he sends down a maiden to the Yorkshire right-hander.
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Rob in Farnborough: I seem to recall Sam Robson and Nick Compton being dropped when they had better records than Lyth. Time to have another look at Compton. No room for sentiment in first class sport.
Eng 48-3 (Bell 11 off 47)
Ian Bell wipes the sweat from his brow either side of some very deliberate defensive shots. He bats out a maiden - which is a good plan. Means he can watch Mitchell Johnson from the non-striker's end.
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Rob Schofield: Hales for Lyth, Rashid for Ballance, Bairstow for Buttler. Root at three and Ali at four.
"One wonders what England can do about this. They are hanging on and that is all. They are not taming the Australian bowling at all."
Eng 48-3 (Johnson 7-1-11-1)
Mitchell Johnson's slower ball in this spell is clocking around 89mph. Like a cold, calculated hitman he is hunting down his kill. You wouldn't want to owe this man a fiver.
"England haven't played well. There's been some hostile bowling from the Australian quicks but England haven't shaped up well."
Eng 48-3 (Bell 11, Root 4)
This is frightening bowling from Mitchell Johnson. He bowls one at the throat of Joe Root who pops the ball up but it lands short of the man under the helmet. That was seriously quick. This is what I imagine it was like to watch the great West Indians in their pomp.
Eng 48-3 (target 509)
The pitch is beginning to look worn - dark footmarks at the batsman's feet and a puff of dust when the ball lands. It's no snake pit though. Even if England are to be beaten here, they can show fight and swell a few individual batting averages. Ian Bell sends back Joe Root when his junior partner attempts a sharp single to backward square. Bell is a little red in the face out there. He's working very hard.
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James Prez: Joe Root. If you can rescue this game I will name my first born after you. I believe in you. England expects.
Eng 47-3 (target 509)
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It's as though Mitchell Johnson is landing the ball on a trampoline as delivery after delivery fly over a ducking Ian Bell and through to the keeper at head height.
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Jeremy Kent: Lots of comments about England top order but what about the potency of the bowlers? Only managed to get 10 Aussie wickets in 198 overs and some of those were when the Aussies were taking risks to get quick runs! I say get the wicket prepared to make a game for both batsman and bowlers and they try and compete, man for man! We have selected a side - now let them play the five Tests.
Bell dropped on 10
Eng 46-3
It's tough viewing this. Ian Bell edges Mitchell Johnson to first slip but Adam Voges, diving to his left, can't quite get there. Neither can the keeper. It went into the hand and out again.
Trouble at the top
30-4 and 42-3 in this match. England's long list of top-order horror shows is growing.
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Eng 44-3 (Bell 10, Root 1)
What's the scariest job in team sport? Facing Mitchell Johnson when he's got his tail up? Going in for a 50-50 with Roy Keane? Short leg to Chris Gayle?
Brief respite for England as Nathan Lyon comes on and immediately goes round the wicket, trying to run the ball past the right-hander's bat. He's been doing that for two years and yet it still works. He averages 30 against England.
Against Pakistan it's 141, Sri Lanka it's 40 and India 37. Anything in that?
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Peter Brooks: Sorry but Lyth and Ballance need to be dropped. Root to open, Taylor to come in at 3, Moeen at 5, Rashid to come in at 8.
Angus McPhail: Good option for England at the top would be Zafar Ansari's, opens in the Championship and brings a spin option as well.
Chris Mitchell: Sadly Lyth will never be good enough for Test cricket and Ballance is just appalling. Buttler struggles too. Hales, Taylor and Bairstow in.
Eng 43-3 (target 509)
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They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. England have to seriously consider making changes. My view? Alex Hales in for Adam Lyth. Gary Ballance and Ian Bell have enough credit in the bank. Just about.
Mitchell Johnson continues his bombardment of the batsmen, Joe Root more than happy to take a single at the start of the over.
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Jerry in Worcester: Jonny Bairstow gets yet another 50 this season. Moeen up to three and Jonny at six. Sorry Belly, time to go.
Charlie Drayton: Clarke easily coming out on top in the battle of the captains both with bat and brain.
Eng 42-3
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Paul Farbrace has the enthusiasm of Mr Tumble, but even he looks a little dejected on that England balcony now. It's the manner of it all which is hard to swallow. The batsmen will cop some flak, but why wasn't the ball whistling through the keeper when England bowled? Maiden for Mitchell Starc.
"You have to start thinking that this is a common trend that's been happening for too many Test matches, seeing England 30 or 40 for three. You can't just keep making the same mistakes with the same people. There are options with the batting order, with Moeen at number eight."
Eng 42-3
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There's an almost funeral-like silence on the England balcony. Everyone sits gazing into the distance. Got to be careful not to catch the boss's eye. Wicket maiden for Mitchell Marsh, who hits Joe Root with a nasty bouncer. The ball almost went through the grille.
"You've got to ask yourself, would Australia be delighted to see the same top four arrive at Edgbaston? And I would say they would. In a big series like this, if you start badly, like Adam Lyth, it's so hard to get back in front."
"Mitchell Marsh is a terrific cricketer. That delivery had bounce, movement down the slope, a real good lifter. It's another good move from Clarke - every manoeuvre that he's made had worked."
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Ballance c Nevill b Marsh 14 (Eng 42-3)
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All over tonight? Gary Ballance is the latest England batsman to trudge off, the latest to not learn from his mistakes. Stuck in the crease, poking at a decent ball, edging Mitchell Marsh behind. Once again, England are nothing for three, all on a deck where Australia racked up the runs. Pretty poor, really.
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England 41-2 (16 overs) - target 509
Batsmen: Ballance 13* (31), Bell 10* (17)
Fall of wickets: 12-1(Lyth 7),23-2(Cook 11)
Bowling figures: Starc 6-2-16-1, Hazlewood 6-1-19-0, Johnson 4-1-7-1
"Ballance's feet just are not moving. It's like he's glued to the crease."
Drinks break
Eng 42-2
Mitchell Starc beats Gary Ballance's outside edge and starts chuckling. To himself. You know the type of laugh... the one which is half sinister and has you wondering if there's something else he's laughing about. Like, having your shirt on inside-out. A single into the leg side completes the over. Drinks.
Another one bites the dust
Eng 41-2 (Ballance 13, Bell 10)
If Gary Ballance looks a bit swan-like (feet flapping furiously beneath the surface), Ian Bell actually looks at home against such high-class bowling. You almost feel only he can get himself out.
A single gets him off strike and Mitchell Johnson resumes his battle with Gary Ballance - trying to zero in on that off stump. He's too full this time and is clipped for a single. MJ chunters back to his mark, gritting those pearly whites in the direction of the batsman. Plenty of 90mph stuff out there.
Eng 39-2 (target 509)
Gary Ballance looks half flustered but, at the same time, half ice cool. I'm not too sure what to make of his body language, as you might have guessed. He will be feeling much better now through... pushing four through point off Mitchell Starc. He could get 150 here. Or he could be out next ball.
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Josh Payne: Anyone remember the days when we weren't a wicket down before we had 20 runs on the board #bringbackcompton
Thomas Knights: Adam Lyth has a massive technical flaw. openers can not continue to get out that way at this level.
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Dr Owain Connors: What's Marcus Trescothick doing between the 29th of July and the 2nd of August?
More downs than ups
Here's what Adam Lyth's skyscraper looks like if you input all of his Test-match scores. Just the one hundred sticks out.
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Eng 35-2 (Johnson 3-1-5-1)
The Aussies, to a man, stand crouched and with their hands cupped together - waiting expectantly for a catch to come their way in the field while Mitchell Johnson thunders to the crease. It must be a great feeling as a fast bowler to know you can instil such fear. Ian Bell does that old batsman's trick of nibbling at one outside off but then quickly moving his bat in front of him to make it look like a deliberate leave. Crafty.
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Robert Stow: Some of the criticism of Lyth is ridiculous. He's had a bad Test but he's not a bad player.
Matthew Williams: Those bashing Lyth should remember he has scored heaps of runs for Yorkshire and needs time. Let's not go back to the 90s!
Matthew Berry: Is it the same people calling for Lyth's head that were so adamant he should replace Trott 6 months ago?Give the guy a chance!
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So if Adam Lyth does bite the bullet after four unconvincing Tests, who could England turn to?
Alex Hales (Notts) Runs this season: 732 at an average of 45.75
Hales is an already an England opener in short-form cricket - could his strong first-class record this season lead to a Test call?
Nick Compton (Middlesex) Runs this season: 817 at 38.90
Compton partnered Alastair Cook at the top of the order in nine Tests in 2012 and 2013, but was dropped after averaging just 32. Time for another go?
Alex Lees (Yorks) Runs this season: 555 at 29.15
The next cab off the Yorkshire rank. Has toured with England Lions, but has not been in convincing form this season.
Angus Robson (Leics) Runs this season: 826 at 34.41
Remember discarded opener Sam Robson? His younger brother Angus is the leading-scoring English opener in the County Championship this season.
Eng 34-2 (53 overs left in the day)
To underline Josh Hazlewood's happy knack of being on the money with his line and length, only 34% of his Test dismissals have been caught - the rest have been bowled, lbw or caught behind. James Anderson has taken 40% of his wickets caught and Glenn McGrath 39%.
Another tidy over - the only blip a leg-side ball which is clipped for four by Ian Bell.
"Ian Bell has been having a tough time, but in the second innings in Cardiff he played more like his old self, some quality cricket shots. He's still got it."
Eng 30-2 (Ballance 7, Bell 5)
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Does Alastair Cook have a problem against pace? I don't think he does, to be fair, but he's got a while to think about it. Mitchell Johnson is tearing in like a man possessed - that low, slingy action spreading fear through the England dressing room once again. A pandemic without cure, if you like. Getting one to nip into Gary Ballance the ball almost slices the left-hander in half.
"The Australian bowlers look a lot more threatening than the English bowlers on this placid pitch. They've got the batsmen hopping about - you didn't see Warner or Smith hop about."
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Si on holiday in Hampshire: Sorry but there is no way Adam Lyth is good enough to be in the team. He is just a walking wicket.
Paul H in Kettering: OK - now can we admit the Adam Lyth experiment hasn't worked? Can we get someone else in because, frankly, no one could do any worse....
Eng 30-2 (target 509)
Since scoring 143 against West Indies in April, Ian Bell's Test scores are: 11 ,1, 0, 0, 1, 29, 12, 1, 1, 60, 1.
You could say he's due a big one? He and Gary Ballance trade singles while Joe Root sits squeezing his lip on the England balcony. Not again, he must be thinking.
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Tom in North Devon: It's all very well and good slamming Adam Lyth but we have been through four openers in the past four years because of a lack of patience and a lack of nous from our selectors in giving then time to settle. Test cricket is a huge leap from counties and the extra pressure from an Ashes series did for Compton and Carberry and now probably Lyth. He has an issue outside his off stump but that is correctable but we have no time. That's not just on him, the ECB are to blame too.
Eng 27-2 (Ballance 5, Bell 4)
If England do want an alternative to Adam Lyth, surely there's another opener they can pinch off Yorkshire? They grow on trees up there, don't they?
England won't have banked on their skipper nicking off so early, and now they have two batsmen at the crease who are in terrible nick - Ian Bell's first ball finding the inside edge and running away for a fortuitous four. Mitchell Johnson ends the over with a sharp bouncer which pins Bell's hands against his bat handle. Nasty stuff.
"A little bit short, a little bit wide. Cook didn't have to play at it, but that's what pace does to you, it makes you have that little involuntary swish. That's a big wicket, Alastair Cook was the man to anchor this effort for England."
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Cook c Nevill b Johnson 11 (Eng 23-2)
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Unbelievable. England skipper Alastair Cook plays a horrible waft outside off stump and Peter Nevill does the rest. That's the big one for Australia - and Mitchell Johnson knows it. He's jumping around like he's just pulled a £20 note out of the local village tombola.
Eng 23-1 (target 509)
A television graphic shows Adam Lyth's dismissals against seam this summer - six or seven white dots and only one of the balls was going on to hit the stumps. That's why bowling coaches preach to their students about hitting the top of off stump.
Gary Ballance gets a cheer when he punches four through the leg side. Mitchell Johnson to bowl the next over.
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Adam Lyth at least gets some support from Wisden editor Lawrence Booth...
Eng 18-1 (target 509)
Gary Ballance averages 38 this year, as opposed to 70 last year. Difficult second album and all that.
He's got a lot to think about as he leans on his bat at the non-striker's end, nervously gritting his teeth. A little something for England to cheer when Alastair Cook opens the face and guides four through point.
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Gary in Notts: And surely that is the last Test match for Lyth.
Ian in Wilmslow: Lyth, can't bat, can't catch, goodbye..
Lucy in Sutton: Lyth is going to cost us the Ashes. Surely that is his last Test innings?
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Sam Sheringham
BBC Sport at Lord's
"I was walking round the ground when that wicket fell. Genuinely had no idea Lyth had gone until I got back to the press box. Shows the stunned silence with which the early blow was greeted, as well as the fact that about half of the paying spectators were still lunching on the lawns."
Eng 12-1 (Cook 5, Ballance 0)
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Henry Blofeld looks delighted with his cake, made by a TMS listener. How fitting if a seagull swooped down and had a nibble of it.
Michael Clarke and David Warner are in deep conversation, the skipper explaining why he has a specific field for Alastair Cook by playing a pretend shot. One ball later his mind is made up and Warner runs off to short mid-wicket. Clarke smiles with his fellow slip catchers. "It's easier to put him there. Let him chirp to the batsmen rather than us."
Josh Hazlewood appeals for leg-before against Alastair Cook. Not out. Going over leg stump.
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Nicholas Waite: Lyth's England career could well be over with that wicket. Ballance and Bell playing for their spots too I feel...
Justin Pineda: Adam Lyth is a dead weight for England. It's a free wicket when he is batting.
Hammer GTS: How many failures will Lyth be allowed before he is shown the door? surely better than him out there!
"Lyth just seems a bit suspect to that short short, straightish delivery going away from him. I've seen him get out a few times fending off the back foot."
Eng 12-1
Gary Ballance won't need a shave tonight - he's just had one when Mitchell Starc whistled one past his lugholes. Welcome to the crease.
"Lyth has got another good ball. Quick, short, ribcage-high, perfect line, a little bit of natural shape away from him. It just reared up on him. He could have left it on length, but it's one of those deliveries that you don't want early on."
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Lyth c Nevill b Starc 7 (Eng 12-1)
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Not the start England needed after lunch. Adam Lyth falls in familiar fashion - edging a rising delivery behind to a gleeful wicketkeeper Peter Nevill. It was a decent delivery, to be fair.
"Luck is very important. You're not going to make progress against this sort of target unless the little things go your way."
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Eng 12-0 (target 509)
Lots of missed heartbeats in England when Alastair Cook almost directs a catch to short leg. Luckily he played it with soft hands and the ball died before reaching the man under the helmet.
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Tom Barker: I get funny looks at 11.11am when I get up and stand on one leg...
Chris Crilly: Arrive at work with a trunk containing at least four spare laptops. Before starting work, wave each laptop about before selecting the one most appropriate for the working conditions.
Eng 11-0 (target 509)
Adam Lyth has one of those faces - he looks like he was cheeky at school, the type who left a smelly kipper behind in the teacher's drawer over the summer holidays. He's concentrating hard here, showing Josh Hazlewood the maker's name with one forward push and then whipping one off his pads through square leg for four.
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Josh Hazlewood has the first over after lunch. Adam Lyth on strike.
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Simon Arnold in Havant: I would love to introduce sledging at work. It would make talks from our management so much more interesting.
Chris in Reading: Work's just like the Ashes - lots of effort for a tiny reward.
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Here come the Australians. Michael Clarke rubs his hands together as though he's walking out to field in Aberdeen in December. I bet he puts the heating on in the summer.
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Andrew: Am I the only person looking at this innings as 100 runs a session? Great pitch, bat sensibly, you never know.
Julian in Durham: Surely 509 is not a notional target - in five sessions. We should go for it or lose trying - be positive.
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Before I get accused of having a liquid lunch, let me point out that I was only joking! England will be happy just to bat 150 overs and survive.
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So, earlier this year England racked up 400 in 50 overs against New Zealand. There's 62 overs left in the day. Twelve overs is enough to knock off an extra 100 runs, right?
Claim the extra half-hour tonight and it's all done and dusted.
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Thanks Stephan. Right... good news... I've worked it all out. England will win and we all get to watch the golf tomorrow. Hear me out...
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Paul Franklin: I like to think I could represent England at throwing screwed-up paper in bins. I'd like an array of bins no closer than 5m from my desk, and a nice wagon wheel graphic at the end of the day.
Miles Freeman: On a Monday morning I stick my car key into my computer keyboard and discuss with colleagues how fast it is likely to play and whether it will take spin on the fifth day.
Former Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls with some early arithmetic memories: "I used to score a whole series and work out the averages by hand, there were no computers or calculators. That can both educate and get children hooked on cricket."
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Gary Jones in Dubrovnik: When I log on I refuse to type anything if someone is moving in my eye line behind my screen and gesture for them to sit down.
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Rhys Phillips: When the office clears for lunch and end of day's play, we hang back to let the best performer walk off to applause.
John Haggis: There are a few people I work with that I would like to raise my finger to.
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Richard Heaton: Been caught out at work a couple of times.
Jon Machell, Greece: I suppose an example of a reverse sweep at work would be to brush the biscuit crumbs off your desk with your non dominant hand!
Former Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls on his cricketing skills: "When I was 20 I was pretty good, 25 years on my wicketkeeping skills have curtailed, so it is less Alec Stewart and more Petr Cech, I just throw myself at the ball."
Balls up
Former Shadow Chancellor and part-time wicketkeeper Ed Balls is the guest on TMS this lunchtime.
"The morning went exactly how we thought it would. Australia came out looking to dominate, get the score up quickly. It's all on England now - they'll be looking to get through the next five sessions."
Lunch
Eng 7-0
England survive, their full complement of 10 wickets in the bank for the five sessions ahead. Three overs down, another 152 to go.
Eng 7-0 (target 509)
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Chris Rogers has appeared on the Australia balcony, sitting in his training gear. He looks to be OK. An edge from Alastair Cook, but soft hands see it drop short of the slips. Two balls before the break...
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Terry Mahoney: When someone shares a document with me, instead of walking to my desk with it, it's thrown round the office until it gets to me.
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Chris Jones: I would like to bring in coffee snakes made up of plastic coffee machine cups like the beer snakes the Western terrace do at Headingley. Working at an engineering company I bet it could easily go the length of the office.
Eng 7-0 (target 509)
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Josh Hazlewood shares the new ball, four slips waiting for him to find the edge of Lyth's bat. Beers passed around the crowd, spectators watching what seems like a completely different sport to earlier. So far, it has been a batsman's game, now, they are stalked by prowling fast bowlers. Lyth and Cook survive with a single each. One more before the break.
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Dan Gregson: I like the idea of reading the first 6 emails of the day but just letting them harmlessly go by.
Michael Rose: I'd like to a veto a colleague's suggestion that's wide of the mark by sticking both my arms out.
Craig McMillan: I'd like a Geoffrey Boycott pep talk before work starts, with analysis of performance throughout the day.
Eng 5-0
Ooofffff! Allow me to just take my heart from my mouth. Cook stuck on the crease, hit on the pads, thought of an appeal. He's hit it, right? Indeed he has. England through the first over. Just 154 to go.
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Steven McKee: England to win by 10 wickets before tea tomorrow. Cook 300* and Lyth 180* plus 29 extras.
Noworrieshouse: On a more realistic note I just want to see some fight and make them work for it. Not 45 for 3.
James Gutteridge: England guaranteed to be 10-2 by lunch.
Eng 1-0 (target 509)
It's not that bad for Adam Lyth, is it? Cheers when he defends the first ball, another when he takes a single to get off a pair. At least he can smile about it.
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Rahul Dravid (31,349), Sachin Tendulkar (29,431), Jacques Kallis (28,900), Shivnarine Chanderpaul (27,394), Allan Border (26,955), Alastair Cook (19,692).
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Here come the England openers, the first step on a long road they hope leads to Monday evening. Mitchell Starc has the ball, Lyth takes guard. Captain Cook waits at t'other end.
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Sam Sheringham
BBC Sport at Lord's
"Preparing the Lord's pitch between innings is a seven-man job. Four of them are brushing away with brooms, one is painting the lines, another is driving the heavy roller up and down the wicket, while groundsman Mick Hunt watches on. Australia coach Darren Lehmann is also an interested spectator."
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TV has just shown a montage of the ways Adam Lyth and Gary Ballance keep getting out. Lyth edge after edge. Ballance bowled or caught behind to balls of a full length. Wicket after wicket. The same man continually trudging off. Imagine if that's on in the dressing room? Your confidence would be shot.
"Johannesburg in January 2010 was the last time James Anderson failed to take a wicket in a Test match. That's a sequence of 59 Tests in which he has taken a wicket - the second-longest such sequence for England, after Fred Trueman's 67."
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Remember the first innings? England had 10 minutes to prepare, then saw Adam Lyth gone after only two balls. He and Cook sprinted off to pad up. Right now, one of them is probably frantically searching for a missing inner thigh pad.
"Watching Anderson and Broad walk off the field, their shoulders are slumped. This wicket has just nullified their effectiveness."
Declaration
Aus 254-2
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There it is, Australia have had enough. Mitchell Marsh belts Moeen Ali for two straight sixes, then Michael Clarke calls time. England need a nominal 509 to win. More importantly, they have five sessions and a bit to bat to save the draw. That bit will be 10 minutes or so before lunch, probably three overs.
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John in Swansea: I suppose the 'Live Text Desk' equivalent of going round the wicket would be to move the mouse to the other side of the keyboard, but still use your dominant hand to operate it?
Aus 239-2 (lead by 493)
This is all very odd. The only reason to bat on for Australia is to grind England down. It doesn't make for much of a spectacle, the hum of the Lord's crowd virtually non-existent. Hello, what's this? Michael Clarke has called for some gloves. A message being sent back to the dressing room?
"I think Australia will probably continue until lunch, maybe even come out for one over after lunch just to get in the mind of the England batsmen."
Aus 231-2 (lead by 485)
Australia are dabbing, nudging and occasionally swiping, without putting too many more on their score. Four runs from Moeen Ali's over, Australia 485 in front. Mitchell Johnson still on the balcony, not a man set to be bowling soon.
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Cricket Australia's Samuel Ferris on Twitter: Most runs after 30 Tests. Don Bradman: 3,969. Everton Weekes: 2,938. Steve Smith: 2,925.
Aus 227-2 (lead by 481)
There's not much sign of activity on the Aussie balcony, no bowlers getting changed, David Warner still sitting in his training gear. Michael Clarke, the man who matters, is out in the middle, essentially having a net. Every over England bowl is one more they won't have to face.
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Sam Sheringham
BBC Sport at Lord's
"A very special delivery to the TMS box. Commentator-themed cakes!"
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Aus 222-2 (lead by 476)
I wonder if Australia will give England 10 minutes to bat before lunch? Maybe declare at about 12:40? Surely that's what England would least like? Having said that, there's no sign of intent against Moeen here. Just two from it.
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JoElle: The entire office celebrates when somebody working for a competitor is dismissed.
Rufus: When I observe a teacher from another department, I make unpleasant comments about his mum to put him off.
Rob: My job is a bit like England at Lord's: we toil away all day while a few old blokes in suits have an enormous lunch and a nap.
Unorthodox Smith
Aus 219-2 (lead by 473)
One thing to note from the Smith wicket is how much the ball turned. Pitched outside off, came back to hit the timber. Nathan Lyon will be pleased to see that. Mitchell Marsh is the new man, promoted above Adam Voges, probably to give it a whack rather than because of the blow Voges took while fielding. One more thing from Smith's innings, have a look at the upcoming picture. Outrageous.
"Smith played magnificently well. If he isn't the best batsman in the world at the moment, that title will soon belong to him. The way of that dismissal indicates that the declaration isn't far off."
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Smith b Moeen 58 (Aus 210-2)
Steve Smith has fallen on his sword in the search for runs and entertainment. Moeen Ali is again the man to chip in with the wicket, taking the off stump after Smith tries to belt the ball over the pavilion. Moeen has eight wickets in the series now.
"Steve Smith's fifty came up off 43 balls - his fastest half-century in Test cricket. He becomes the first Australian to score a double hundred and a fifty in an Ashes Test since Donald Bradman in 1934."
50 for Steve Smith
Aus 208-1
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This is ridiculous. You know those games you played as a kid? The one where one lad got loads of runs, did pretty much anything he liked while you had to stand in the field? Steve Smith is doing that now. Slap through point for four, a ridiculous whip to fine leg to bring up a 43-ball half-century, then a trick shot between the legs to the same region. He's closing in on 300 runs in the match.
"This is a good position for Michael Clarke. Previously he's been watching the ball to survive; now he can watch the ball looking to score. He hasn't been in great form, but if he can get a little cameo going, 30 or 40 runs, that would give him his confidence back."
Aus 193-1 (lead by 447)
Is this one-day mode? It's even more defensive than that, fielders scattered to all parts. Michael Clarke, in need of some runs, goes inside out to loft Moeen over mid-off for four. Alastair Cook has had enough, he's into the Long Room for a trip to the dressing room. If I was him and I'd stay there and put my pads on.
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Steven F Galloway: When I make a cuppa or visit the toilet a young lad comes and sits at my desk for me.
Ciaran Tragheim: Being voted player of the week and getting the classic bottle of Veuve Clicquot champagne to 'share' with the rest of the office.
Andy Bloor: Maybe wear a helmet and other protective equipment when I have to go into see the boss.
Aus 187-1 (Smith 41, Clarke 9)
All sorts of comedy goings on out there now. Broad to Smith, employing the round the wicket, wide of off stump tactics he used to try in limited-overs cricket. Smith receives the telegram and stands baseball-style, trying to belt to Maida Vale. No boundary, but seven off.
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Nigel in Brighouse: Dear me England's body language is terrible! Its like we have gone back to the last Ashes series. Australia look so comfortable its untrue. Where is the aggression, invention and desire to just try something different? Nothing to lose now. I can see England getting rolled over here for about 120.
Scorecard update
Australia 180-1 (39 overs) - lead by 434 runs
Batsmen: Smith 37*, Clarke 6*
Fall of wickets: 114-0 (Rogers retired hurt 49), 165-1 (Warner 83)
"I think Australia have done a good job this morning. They've put plenty of runs on the board and only lost one wicket. Steve Smith is in such good nick he's hardly misplaced a shot."
Chris Rogers update
Aus 180-1
The word from Cricket Australia is that Chris Rogers had a sudden dizzy spell, which has happened before. He's resting in the dressing rooms. There's no word on if it is linked to the recent blows he had to the head or if he will bat and field later. Moeen before drinks, a boundary apiece to Clarke and Smith.
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Adam Dawkins: I'd like to hand somebody my jumper and put my glasses on their head when I start a coding spell.
Barry Coppins: I would like to bring in a night watchman to do the last half hour at work for me.
JoElle: If a day isn't going well, the office supervisor makes everybody sit in different places.
Aus 171-1 (lead by 425)
I'm seeing some reports that Chris Rogers remains at Lord's. That's unconfirmed, mind. Stuart Broad is trying to hang the ball outside Steve Smith's off stump, with a packed off-side field. Smith gets a touch frustrated, then simply belts over mid-off for four.
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Doug Wilton: If I send 3 good emails in succession, I stand up and show everyone in the office my laptop.
Disco Stu: I'd like to sit around in just shorts until it's my time to do some work.
Stephen: If anyone ever suggests the ridiculous "knuckle touch" after routine tasks, I'll swear I'll deliberately aim lower.
Aus 167-1 (Moeen 10-0-40-1)
Michael Clarke is the new man, so Chris Rogers remains off the field. We await an update on his condition. Australia have scored 59 runs in 11 overs this morning. There are 79 overs remaining in the day, less two for the change of innings.
"There's no need for that stroke, he's been scoring quickly. Warner is very talented but sometimes his brains go out the window."
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Warner c Cook b Moeen 83 (Aus 164-1)
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I don't even think this counts as a consolation wicket. It does at least temporarily slow the Aussie charge. David Warner looking to belt Moeen Ali, only finding a very sharp catch by Alastair Cook at short cover. Warner misses out on a Lord's ton and falls to Moeen for the third time in the series.
"Warner is taking a few chances here, which he can do because the scoreboard is in Australia's favour. Smith loves to be inventive and he too has got the chance to indulge himself."
Aus 164-0 (lead by 419)
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England sharing the workload of their seam bowlers - no point flogging them into the ground in a situation like this. Stuart Broad on, Steve Smith playing an outrageous sweep shot to an 80mph delivery in order to get the ball to the vacant fine leg area. Australia are toying with England here, sticking a finger into an 18-month old wound and wiggling it about.
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Howard Horner: Unless Anderson takes a wicket, he's on course to record his worst ever match figures. Previous worst: 0-111 against SA in 2010.
Aus 158-0 (lead by 412)
I'm enjoying the cricketing customs that could be transferred to the office. Is the obligatory over of spin before the lunch break something we could do, meaning we all knock off five minutes early? Speaking of spin, still Moeen, Smith edging wide of slip for four. Michael Clarke peers through the dressing room window, one so small it looks like it could be the loo. He's pondering. England wickets divided by time equals declaration?
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Ian Anderson: I'd like to be applauded back to my desk after a particularly good lunch.
Jonathon Fernyhough: I would very much like to have work stopped for bad light and for rain, forcing everyone to retire to the kitchen for tea and cake until conditions improve.
Aus 151-0 (Warner 78, Smith 19)
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Seatbelts. David Warner is on the charge, missing with a hoik, then blazing Wood through the off side for four. Warner, the second-innings dasher, is hunting that place on the Lord's honours board. Steve Smith, his name already there, joins the party with a belt to cow corner.
"The real game starts after lunch. This is just the hors-d'oeuvre."
Aus 142-0 (lead by 396)
Spin for the first time today, with Steve Smith deciding that the introduction of Moeen Ali is a signal to get on with it. Big yahoo of a drive, some good fortune to get three via an inside edge. Though England have bowled reasonably well, it's hard to overstate the flatness of the game. That might be because of the state of play, or because of a lingering concern for Chris Rogers.
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Nick Smith: I had to high five everyone in a company each time I arrived at and left the office. Cringe.
James Boswell: Maybe you could start rubbing the keyboard on your trousers to keep the shine on it.
Henry Walmsley: Can we have a shorter format of work too?
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Aus 133-0
England a fingernail from a wicket. Mark Wood, accurate this morning, has David Warner pulling a ball that isn't quite there. It hits high on the bat, flying towards Joe Root at short mid-wicket. He leaps, but it's just out of his grasp. No joy for England yet, but they have prevented Australia from scoring at a lick.
"Australia are making it look easy. The England batsmen will be having a look at this, thinking 'If they can do it, why can't we?'"
Aus 130-0 (lead by 384)
What we are witnessing here is not a contest. It is merely the pre-amble to the contest. The match is effectively on hold until England are sent out to bat - that is when we will have a better idea of the result. We know (pretty much) that Australia will not lose, it's just a case of if they can win. For now, they are taking as many runs as they wish, including a dreamy Steve Smith cover drive for four.
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"Wood's pace is considerably down on the first Test. In Cardiff he was hitting the high 80s and occasionally 90mph, but here he's around the 80mph mark. The 25-year-old has only played 27 first-class matches since making his Durham debut in 2011, so is he feeling the strain of back-to-back Tests?"
Aus 126-0 (Warner 65, Smith 7)
Martin, I'm fascinated by this. I wonder how many of us would like a huddle at the beginning of the working day. Maybe we should try it on the live text desk? Are there other cricketing customs that could transfer to the office? Mark Wood, again good round the wicket to Warner, before straying too leg-side to be clipped for four.
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Martin from Wolverhampton: Can I please have your views on huddling at the start of a days play? A recent development at work is that we get together for a huddle at the start of the day and I think it a bit silly, I feel uncomfortable and a bit embarrassed. Is this some kind of cunning management technique to keep us on our toes? Professionals do not need words of wisdom or inspiration at the start of the day, they should just get on with it. What on earth are England going to say? "Just 366 behind, keep it tight lads and keep it below 700"?
Aus 122-0 (lead by 376)
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That odd occurrence with Chris Rogers has cast an odd feeling over the proceedings, as if the intensity has been taken out of the cricket. Anderson, the umpire again getting a good look at his follow-through, with Smith clipping off his pads for four.
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Evan Samuel: Hope Rogers is ok - vertigo? Delayed concussion? Take no chances.
Aus 114-0
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Looking at the replays, Rogers knew something wasn't right at the end of Wood's over. He stood still, then waved to the dressing room. He spoke to Warner, who told him to sit down. I can't remember seeing anything like that in a Test match before.
"Rogers is just sitting there absolutely motionless, he's looking a bit vacant. He's clearly had a bit of a turn. It's as if he's been overcome by something."
Rogers retires on 49 (Aus 114-0)
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Rogers, remember, got hit on the head from the very first ball of the second day. He also missed both Test matches on the tour of West Indies after taking a blow to the head. There's no suggestion yet that those blows are linked. He has retired, with Steve Smith now coming to the crease.
Aus 114-0
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There's a touch of concern for Chris Rogers here. He's on his knees, helmet off, looking rather dizzy. David Warner is by his side, hand on shoulder, with Brad Haddin running on a drink and now the physio too. He looks very dazed.
"It still looks very flat. The Australian bowlers used the hill a bit better - they just got the ball to nip about. England's bowlers haven't got any sideways movement at all."
Aus 114-0 (Rogers 49, Warner 60)
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Are we assuming that Australia will leave themselves about five sessions in which to bowl England out? Perhaps with a target of about 500? I suppose England can cut the time they have to bat by taking wickets, lengthening the time it takes Australia to get those 130 or so runs. Mark Wood sharing morning duties, round the wicket with a decent line to David Warner. Good maiden.
Australia coach Darren Lehmann on BBC Sportsweek: "It's more about giving ourselves time to bowl England out than runs on the board. I thought we bowled beautifully in the first innings - to bowl England out in 90 overs was a decent effort, so hopefully we can do the same in the second innings and pick up some early wickets with the new ball."
Aus 114-0 (lead by 368)
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Lord's really is a beautiful picture this morning, cricketing perfection. Sunshine overhead, blue sky and the odd white cloud. It's a stark contrast to the trouble England find themselves in and at odds with the teeing off Australia might be about to do. Round the wicket, Anderson gets one to spit at Rogers - not really a great sign for England - before Rogers goes through point for four.
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Aus 108-0 (lead by 362)
Alastair Cook, purposeful look on his face, leads his troops out into the Lord's sunshine. He might as well be leading them to the gallows. They are set for a very difficult morning of chasing leather. Australia, 362 ahead, will be looking to belt another 150 or so before lunch. James Anderson to Chris Rogers. Play.
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Clare Connor has rung the five-minute bell to summon the players through the Long Room. I was at university with Clare Connor's brother. He bowls left-arm spin.
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Mark J Smith: At Lord's ready to see England pull off an historic Test comeback.
Activity Tracker: Du Plessis led rearguard action against Aussies in their own backyard. England can still draw. Openers need to hold fort.
Thanks, Marc. I wonder if England are saying a little prayer to the patron saint of rearguards - Mike Atherton.
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"The route from the Nursery Ground to the outfield is a popular haunt for autograph hunters. Chris Rogers was in obliging mood this morning."
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The reasons why Australia didn't enforce follow on
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There's a really interesting article on the ABC website about why teams are reluctant to enforce the follow-on these days. Apparently it's to do with the physical well-being of players.
"The follow-on used to be more ruthlessly applied: in 1948 Don Bradman had his bowlers send down 123 of the era's eight-ball overs against India, then butter up again as soon as that innings closed," writes Geoff Lemon.
"But in Bradman's day plenty of other things were different. Test matches had rest days. Fielding and running between wickets were less physically intense.
"The current era is one of sports scientists, bowling workloads and constant medical observation."
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Adam Wheeler: If England lose so be it. But they should go down fighting and with intent. Make the Aussies earn the wickets.
Little Furry Despot: Don't see why everyone is being so negative! Score 120 in each of the five sessions = 600 runs! Easy for new positive England!
BBC Weather's Helen Willetts on TMS: "It is absolutely glorious this morning - the rain cleared well before the start of play. There is a narrowing band of rain but it's unlikely that it's going to have any real consequence - there's only a very small risk of an interruption. The weather-front returns tomorrow with some drizzly weather, but I think today we're going to see a lot of play."
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Mitchell Marsh also spoke to TMS last night, saying: "Hopefully we can bat well and really put England under pressure tomorrow afternoon and on day five."
On the subject of how far ahead they might be when skipper Michael Clarke makes a declaration, Marsh added: "I'm sure Michael has a total in mind, but I'm not sure [what it is]. I imagine it will be around the 450 to 500 mark."
More from England all-rounder Ben Stokes on TMS: "Saturday was a tough day. We know that we're probably going to have to bat 150 overs on day four and day five to save the game. We lost some cheap wickets in the first innings and we've got to be more disciplined and more correct as a batting unit. It's a bit of an up-and-down pitch, but I don't think it's changed since the first ball - there's not much turn so I think it's a pretty decent wicket."
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Pete: I have a feeling that Clarke will send out his men to play Twenty20 for an hour and a half this morning before waving his troops in. Being set 475-ish over 5-and-a-bit sessions would give Al's boys even less chance of maintaining their series lead than being set 550+ in 4 sessions.
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"It's Australia's match to win, but it's still a difficult track to take 20 wickets on."
'No demons'
Ben Stokes, as you might expect, has not thrown the towel in yet, telling the media last night that a draw is possible on a pitch offering very little to the bowlers.
"We've got to get our head around the fact that we are probably going to have to bat 150 overs to try and save the game," he said.
"If there's ever a wicket to do it on it's this one. There are no real demons in it, there's not too much pace and there's not too much turn."
"The rain dance didn't work - it's a beautiful day with blue skies. They know they're going to have to bat five sessions - the history books are against them, and it's going to be very difficult, particularly with three of the top four under huge pressure. It's a big challenge for them. Australia have been ruthless, the left-arm bowlers were quick and hostile - England have got a hell of a job to get anything out of this Test match."
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Lazlo Melonheart: Obviously excellent batsman, but it always felt like Bell did well when England were up but struggled when he needed to save the day.
The Cricket Wolf: Sad to say, Bell will never be considered a great. Beautiful to watch, but mentally fragile. 2013 Ashes notable exception.
Howard Horner: Ian Bell, a great? Not for me. He's a wonderful batsmen, unquestionably, but the term 'great' shouldn't be applied liberally.
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Surely England's only hopes of saving this Test rest with Alastair Cook batting. And batting. And batting. And batting.
Writing for Cricinfo, George Dobell underlined the value of England's Mr Block: "Whatever waits the other side of a nuclear holocaust - famine, pestilence and an uncontrolled return of the heavy roller in county cricket to name but three catastrophes - it seems safe to assume that, as the first survivors peep from behind their curtains and wonder whether Starbucks remains unscathed, Alastair Cook will be scratching his mark and preparing to take strike against the four horsemen of the apocalypse."
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Broad riles Australians. Again.
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Australia's strong position in this game has much to do with double-centurion Steve Smith. He's becoming a national treasure down under - and they cannot believe anyone would question the ability of their star batsman.
"(But) when the ball doesn't seam on the wicket it's always hard to judge (it's quality)."
Benteke closer to Liverpool deal
Some breaking football transfer news for you... Liverpool have reached an agreement with Aston Villa over payment terms on their £32.5m move for Cristian Benteke.
The Anfield club have now arranged a medical, which will take place in the UK. Liverpool's club doctor will fly home from the club's tour of Australia to complete the medical but Benteke will not join up with his new team-mates Down Under.
"This Test is there for Australia to win. They have five sessions and they'll create 10 chances to take wickets."
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Interesting point from Dave Kidd. Ian Bell has to be one of the most technically correct players England have ever produced. However, despite all of his ability, will he ever be considered a great? You tell me.
Bell in 'iffy form'
Journalist Dave Kidd, speaking on 5 live: "There's always a but with Ian Bell. It's his seventh Ashes series, but you don't think the Australians see him as a man of that stature. He doesn't give an air of confidence when he's in iffy form and Australian bowlers can always smell fear."
Bell 'a class act'
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Lancashire coach Ashley Giles on the form of one of England's key batsmen: "Ian Bell is a class act. He's in a slump and he plays at his best when he feels confident. When he looks 10ft tall, with a good posture he looks at his best."
'A huge task for England'
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Ex-England spinner Ashley Giles, speaking to BBC Radio 5 live: "Realistically it's a huge task now for England. The wicket still looks good and pitches at Lord's tend to get better. On the whole it's played pretty true but there's still a lot of time in the game. Australia will look to get 500 and then put England under pressure.
"Let's not forget that one Test match ago we were singing the praises of this team. Scoreboard pressure does funny things - Australia scoring 560-odd was always going to put England under pressure."
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Simon Newport: No changes needed, Australia have outperformed us (so far), just like we did in the first match, still two days to go mind.
Pete Thorneycroft: Moeen up the order & bring in Bairstow. Job done
"I'm a little disappointed with the wicket. You should concentrate on your own strengths and not the opposition. It's too slow and too hard for the fast bowlers if a batsman gets in."
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England's problems in this game are of their own making, according to their former captain Michael Vaughan who believes the hosts have "shot themselves in the foot" with the pitch which was prepared.
"It hasn't been good for England or for cricket," Vaughan said. "It just gave Australia the opportunity to get that confident buzz back into the side.
"The toss was always going to be important. We saw a pitch here against New Zealand a few weeks ago that had zip, carry, a little bit of everything. By preparing a real slow wicket, you're basically saying you don't trust your top seven, which is a really poor message to send."
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Australia coach Darren Lehmann was also asked what he thought about his compatriot Trevor Bayliss being in charge of England: "It's always interesting, we know him well because he coached our T20 side last summer. It's a really tight struggle strategically but as coaches we just get the players ready and give them good advice."
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Australia head coach Darren Lehmann has been speaking to BBC Radio 5 live about his team's plans: "This morning's about getting quick runs and then we'll take it from there. The captain will work out a plan, but it's about time more than runs now.
"We've played some decent cricket over the last 18 months so it's been a great response after what happened at Cardiff."
Pint-sized Ashes
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Stokes rising to the challenge
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Despite being in such a precarious position in the match, England can take positives from this match - in particular from the batting of Ben Stokes who made 87 in their first innings.
BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew wrote about Stokes: "His performances this summer have established him as a proper Test batsman. It was a great decision to move him up to number six and you can see the confidence that has given him.
"The one area where he is still a work in progress is his bowling. He often gets compared to Andrew Flintoff, and he is probably already a better batsman than England's 2005 hero but he's some way off being the bowler Flintoff was."
"Australia will look to push the score up around 500 and then have four and a half sessions to bowl England out."
Weather forecast
BBC Weather's Chris Fawkes: "Today is essentially a dry day for the Ashes Test at Lord's with sunny spells, a light southwesterly breeze and highs of 24C. There is however a very small risk of a brief light shower around 3pm - but the chances are that the front bringing this shower risk will have died long before reaching London, so it's most likely to stay dry.
"Tomorrow will be a much cloudier day with some morning spots of drizzle in the air, gradually turning brighter but feeling humid. Highs of 24C."
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We'll continue the post-mortem/look ahead shortly, but first let me tell you how to get in touch. I want to know if England can save this Test and whether they might need to consider changes for the third Test.
"Two days ago, today was forecast to be a washout. Now it looks like beach weather. Cue groans galore at the England team hotel."
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Just briefly on the five sessions thing... only five teams in history have batted for 150 overs to save a Test. The odds aren't on the side of Alastair Cook's men.
England can still save this game - Agnew
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However, our very own Jonathan Agnew is not writing England off just yet - he thinks they have enough ability to bat for a draw.
"England are likely to have to survive the best part of five sessions to save the game, but I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to do it," Agnew said.
"The ball is not doing anything at all. It hasn't spun and even if it does spin it will do so very slowly and without bounce.
"It's a slow, true pitch and there's no real bounce to terrify the lower order so if England play every ball very carefully they can save this match."
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All down to Cap'n Cook?
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Let's be honest, it's not looking good for England. But there is hope - there is some weather knocking around and Alastair Cook looks back to his match-saving best. He was unlucky not to get a century yesterday.
The Australians will begin the day 362 runs ahead with 10 second-innings wickets in hand. A declaration could come at any time - and then England will have the best part of two days to try and survive. It's a tall order.
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I think that sums it up rather nicely, don't you?
Still, don't forget this series is still level at 1-1. And I seem to recall that England were thrashed at Lord's a decade ago, before going on to Edgbaston. That turned out to be quite a good game.
We go again a week on Wednesday. See you then.
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Wisden editor Lawrence Booth: Australia in that Test were twice as good as England with both bat and ball: 820 for 10 wickets plays 415 for 20.
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Chris Whelan: Any other sport a team is picked based on form. Iif a player is out of form they get dropped. No one should be picked based on merit because that will simply not win a match. With this new brand of cricket Hales is a must.
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Andrew Samson
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"Including today, since 1 Jan 1995, teams winning the toss have won 327 and lost 327 Tests with 237 draws in 891 matches."
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Chris Hawkins: Bairstow has scored another ton - he's not just knocking on the door he is smashing it down.
Ali Thomson: To all these people saying Bairstow should be back in the team, remember, he can't play the short ball.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"Three positions are a problem: opening batsman, Ian Bell and the spinning department. You can add Gary Ballance. But the problem is, who do you put in their place? You have to ask whether a player has the ability to go up a gear and match the higher quality of international cricket. I can't come up with any great names.
"My instinct tells me England will ponder it for a few days and then come up with exactly the same team. They're not sure who to put in. Ian Bell will be playing on his home ground anyway. I'm not saying I'm happy about that, but England don't like changing."
Ireland reach World T20
Here's some slightly better news... Ireland have joined Scotland in qualifying for the World T20 in India next year. Ireland top Group A of the qualifier after beating Jersey by seven wickets in Malahide earlier and were assured of top spot when Namibia lost to Hong Kong. Scotland qualified by topping Group B. Despite being guaranteed a place at the World T20 proper, both Ireland and Scotland continue to take part in the qualifier. Both advance to the semi-final stage.
Player reaction
Australia bowler Mitchell Johnson, on Sky Sports: "We're very happy with the result. The good thing about this Test is that we played well in partnerships, both bowling and batting.
"To end the game like that was unbelievable. We've been bowling well as a group for a while. The first Test woke us up a bit and seeing more bounce here fired us up.
"It was a flat wicket but there was more bounce there than at Cardiff. We were able to use the conditions with the new, hard ball. The pitch quickened up as it went on."
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"In the early spells by Johnson and Starc, batsmen were playing injudicious shots - flirting outside off stump in a situation where we were trying to save the match. Ian Bell played and missed, Joe Root was hit on the head hooking second ball. We don't seem to be switched on to trying to bat five sessions."
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"It could be interpreted as a seismic blow. It had the look of what happened in Australia 18 months ago, when Australia swarmed all over England. England just couldn't get out of it - it was a strangulation, a capitulation."
Man of the match
Australia's Steve Smith: "It was a good wicket. We started well on day one and my partnership with Chris Rogers put us into a good position and we kicked on from there. I was keen to do well here. I haven't had a good run with the bat here at Lord's. It was nice to get some big runs. I feel good at the crease at the moment. I have to be patient, watch the ball closely and make the bowlers come to me, where I want them to bowl."
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Man of the match Steve Smith on TMS: "The guys came out with a lot of steam. The bowlers were aggressive and put the ball in some really uncomfortable areas for their batsmen.
"Cardiff was a big wake-up call for us, and this game we dominated from day one and we didn't let England back in. Being top of the player rankings doesn't bother me, the most important thing is contributing to winning games of cricket for this team. It's very satisfying to bounce back the way we have, but we know that England are going to come back strongly."
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In the England dressing-room, batting coach Mark Ramprakash is deep in conversation with Gary Ballance. During the match, players and staff are not allowed their phones to guard against corruption. They have them back now and most are engrossed in the little screens.
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Ali Thomson: To all these people saying Bairstow should be back in the team, remember, he can't play the short ball.
Chris Hawkins: Bairstow has scored another ton he's not just knocking on the door he is smashing it down.
Captain's view
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Australia captain Michael Clarke on TMS: "The way we turned our performance around for Cardiff shows the talent and the hunger of this team.
"I don't think the toss played too much of a part, but we started the game really well.
"We're 1-1 in a five-match series, so we're going to have to keep playing our best. The boys executed really well with both bat and ball. Mitch has done exactly what we knew he'd do, he's had a really good start back into the team."
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Lee Bird in Devon: I hope Trevor Bayliss locks the team somewhere in Lord's and points out every single weakness and mistake they've made. No-one leaves until they've watched the video. Take it on the chin and come back for the next Test with some aggression and bottle.
Captain's view
More from Michael Clarke: "That's the advantage of having Mitchell Johnson. He's so fit and a great athlete. We have asses the wicket and game situation. The rest of the attack allowed Mitch to do that.
"Chris Rogers is still getting checked now. He probably thinks we cost him a hundred today.
"I'd like to be 2-0 up, but will accept where we are now. We have to 100% ready to go for the third Test."
Captain's view
Australia captain Michael Clarke: "I couldn't have asked for a better performance. The intent from our batsmen through the second innings was great and the execution from the bowlers was spot on."
"We didn't really talk too much about Cardiff. Our focus was playing our best cricket here. We didn't play our best there, but now we can look in the mirror and say we played some good cricket here.
"Mitchell Marsh played really well. He showed how much of a team player he is. He took two crucial wickets in the first innings. credit to the selectors for going with their gut. It was hard on Watto, but the selectors have to work out the best 11 for each game."
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"I didn't see it coming. This is good a pitch as you'll ever get to save a Test on and I thought they could take it tomorrow afternoon. It should have been easy to defend and stay in.
"Some of the batting was pretty poor and the attitude to saving the game was poor. Ballance doesn't look comfortable - he seems so stuck and rigid on the back foot. We helped Australia blow us away."
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"Australia couldn't have dominated any more from the moment they won the toss."
Captain's view
England captain Alastair Cook: "To not back up our win at Cardiff is incredibly frustrating. Credit to Australia, they put us under pressure and we weren't able to deal with it. We didn't bowl with the same discipline and control. Over the last few games, we have been three down for 40-odd and that is an area of concern.
"We have to take this on the chin. Now it's about the character we need to show to bounce back. We came up short this week. I don't think it's about where people bat, it's down to the players, they just have to get stuck in. You've seen over the last eight days that the side which gets on top stays on top. I want a good, old English wicket at Edgbaston."
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Joshua Baxter: The Bayliss honeymoon has come to a crashing end. The magnitude of his job has now become painfully clear.
Andy Field: Superb effort by England, managing to play that badly over the whole Lord's test.
Rich Harrison: England batsmen are simply scared stiff of aggressive bowling and can't deal with it. Embarrassing.
Captain's reaction
BBC Radio Test Match Special
More from Alastair Cook on TMS: "Backing up a win is something we haven't been able to do the last four times, which is incredibly frustrating. You can jump to all kinds of conclusions, but it's 1-1 - I can't quite work out why we didn't back up Cardiff but we have a few days off and we come to Edgbaston and we've got to show some character."
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England, by the way, have now lost 10 of their last 20 Test matches, winning only six.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"Mick Hunt has been preparing great cricket pitches for a number of years with more pace than this and I don't believe Alastair Cook. I think they want slow pitches to negate the two Australian fast bowlers but it's negating the English bowlers instead.
"If you have fast bowlers, you have a better chance of getting people out on good, batting pitches because they are quicker through the air."
Captain's reaction
BBC Radio Test Match Special
England captain Alastair Cook on TMS: "It was a very disappointing day. It's sunk in, when you get bowled out for 100, it isn't good enough. It's frustrating not being able to match the standards we set at Cardiff.
"Credit to Australia for getting ahead of the game and never letting us back in. We haven't asked for wickets to be like this, we want good English wickets with a little bit in them.
"But at the end of the day that's absolutely irrelevant because both sides play on the same wicket and if you're outplayed in all three aspects of the game, you're not going to win."
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Kendall: Bairstow sneezing centuries at the moment, has to come in for the next test.
Nick: Woeful from England cricket team. Gone from convincingly beating Australia to being humiliated in the next test.
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Australia all-rounder Mitchell Marsh on Sky Sports: "You always hope for things like that to happen but it was fantastic. We were keen to bounce back after that first Test. Johnno's spells were as hostile as you will get in Test cricket."
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Glenn McGrath
BBC Test Match Special
"I thought England might have shown a bit more fight. They just capitulated. They'll take a lot of scars into the next game. Mitchell Johnson looked lethal out there. The new blokes brought a lot of energy - Peter Nevill had a great first Test match, Mitchell Marsh had an incredible match.
"Potentially, there are changes to be made for England. Ballance has struggled a fair bit and Bell is under pressure. But the first thing is to produce a good cricket wicket and back your team."
It begins...
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Australia bowler Josh Hazlewood, speaking to Sky Sports: "We worked hard in the first innings. We bowled in the right areas again. Mitchell Johnson bowled some hostile spells for us and opened it up for us. He bowled superbly."
Final scorecard
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Will Moody: I expect a 4-1 series thrashing if England don't improve their batting for the next match. Nothing but pathetic today.
Adrian Clarke: That is a drubbing the England team of my early 90s childhood would be proud of.
Chris Ivory: Talent, yes. Guts, fight, implementation, and pride, none. What happened since Cardiff? Heads need cracking together.
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Andrew Samson
BBC Test Match Special statistician
"405 runs is Australia's third biggest margin of victory over England. It's England's fourth biggest loss against anyone anywhere."
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"If it was a boxing match we would have got knocked out in the first round. We got knocked down and we stayed down. We never made a fight of it. Before we started this series, we knew we had a problem with opening bat, we knew we had a problem with the spinner and we knew that Bell was in poor form. There aren't that many people queueing up who say 'Pick me, I've got a bit of class.' Who is the player who stands out as a top opener, a top spinner, a replacement for Bell? If you're honest, it's not too easy."
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Where does this Ashes series go from here? To highlight the importance of this win for Australia, 13 of the last 14 Ashes series have been won by the team that won the second Test. We're effectively into a three-match series, but Australia have both the momentum and the benefit of being Ashes holders. England have it all to do before Edgbaston next week.
2015 Ashes level at 1-1
Australia are led off the pitch by Steve Smith, the England players are down the stairs to shake hands. The Aussie staff are in the Long Room, greeting their players. Some turnaround from a week ago. Just looking at the England scorecard, Stuart Broad top-scored with 25. Says it all.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"I'm absolutely amazed. Terrific performance by Australia but if you're in the England dressing room you've got to ask yourself what the hell went on. There was no pace, bounce or spin in the pitch. You wouldn't get a much better pitch than this to save a Test match on. The sun was shining. They just had to stay in, be mentally strong and take the sting out of the bowling. They should have been able to take it into tomorrow afternoon. It's extraordinary to get bowled out like that. Some of the batting was really, really poor."
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Jim Maxwell
BBC Test Match Special
"There could not be a more comprehensive victory. Australia have won in the most spectacular way."
Australia win by 405 runs
Anderson b Hazlewood 0 (Eng 103 all out)
All over in the splattering of James Anderson's stumps. Australia win by 405 runs, their third biggest win in terms of runs in Ashes history. England, so buoyant after Cardiff, have been humiliated at Lord's. The Aussies stand in the middle and applaud their fans. They have conquered the home of cricket.
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Phil Tufnell
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"I'd probably persist with Gary Ballance. You've got to give Adam Lyth another go. Ian Bell could be the one to go."
Eng 103-9
To put the difference between the teams into perspective, Australia are 820-10 in this match. England are 415-19. Maybe if England had another two innings, they would get to parity. I don't know how true this is, but there's rumours the Aussie fielders have said to Anderson "beer afterwards, Jimmy?"
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Nick Hunt: England have been totally outclassed.
David White: No pride shown in wearing the three lions. Long hard looks in the mirror needed.
Fergus Fraser Hafter: RIP English cricket.
Eng 102-9 (Aus need 1 wicket)
As it stands, this would be England's third-largest defeat in terms of runs against Australia. Still sunny at Lord's, the beautiful picture totally at odds to the carnage of the last 36 overs. How long ago does the win at Cardiff seem? England have been spooked by Mitchell Johnson once more. Who could galvanise this team?
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Phil Tufnell
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"Australia look a stronger side with the two changes they made for this Test. I can't see how that's going to happen for England."
Eng 101-9 (Aus need 1 wicket)
James Anderson walks to the crease as I'm told one bookie has England 16-1 to win this match. Are you kidding? I'd want about 160,000-1 and even then I'd say it was stingy.
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Ed Smith
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"This has been little short of a disaster. England have got some serious thinking to do."
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"England's performance this afternoon has been amazingly poor. I can't believe we could get bowled out so quickly, so poorly, on what was a lovely pitch to make a fist of it."
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Root b Hazlewood 17 (Eng 101-9)
Start the car. Josh Hazlewood into the attack, ball keeps a little low, Joe Root's off stump pegged back. The demolition of the timbers not unlike the steamrolling Australia have done to England in this match. Root can barely drag himself off the pitch. He looks distraught.
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Ed Smith
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"This is a game where nothing has gone right for England. What's happened on the pitch has been disappointing from the first ball to the last one."
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Broad c Voges b Lyon 25 (Eng 101-8)
It's hard to blame Stuart Broad, because those above him are more culpable, but this is still something of a surrender. In the same over hitting Nathan Lyon for a straight six, Broad plays a horrible waft to find Adam Voges at cover. One one hand, there's nothing wrong with the number playing some shots, but there's a time and a place.
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Ed Smith
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"I can scarcely remember an innings where a wicket looked less likely to fall than Australia's innings. I can scarcely remember an innings where wickets looked more likely to fall than this England innings."
Eng 91-7 (32 overs left in the day)
It's no stretch of the imagination to say this Test match has almost been like watching two different sports. Australia bat, a wicket as rare as hen's teeth. England bat, the gate on the boundary replaced with a revolving door. Root still battling, hooking Johnson for four.
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Michael Inch: And Broad in 7 balls is England's highest run scorer, what a shambles!
Phil Gilman: Think we might have to burn the stumps after this horrendous surrender.
Sally Smith: Rabbits in headlights... intimidated by the scoreboard and pure panic from some of the team.
Eng 87-7 (Aus need 3 wickets)
Stuart Broad is flashing the blade, adding a touch of, well, not respectability. Something. Nathan Lyon's off-breaks, Broad looking to carve anything that moves through the off side. A decent result for Broad, he's given Root the strike for Johnson's next over.
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Tom Ferry: Compton, Taylor, Footitt in, Lyth, Bell and Anderson (no show!) out. Ballance stays as there isn't anyone else!
Steven F Galloway: I'd put Moeen Ali in to open with Cook and Rashid at 8, drop Lyth, and scour the country for anyone called Mitchell.
Eng 82-7 (target 509)
Remember the winter of 2013-14? The terror every time Johnson got the ball in hand, expecting a wicket when he stood at the end of his run? Thought he was stuffed on slow English decks? Think again. This is raw, hostile, nasty fast bowling. Prowling run, low arm, spitting short ball at 88mph that almost amputates Stuart Broad's arm.
Falling like dominoes
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Gordon Thursfield: What did Johnson have for tea? Raw meat sandwiches swigged down with diesel?
Eng 70-7 (Aus need three wickets)
Selection can be about timing and you often become a batter player when you're out of the team. Step forward Jonny Bairstow, who has just completed another hundred for Yorkshire. His mate Joe Root, eyewitness to the carnage, remains in the middle, pulling Nathan Lyon for four. Now Stuart Broad must face up to Mitchell Johnson.
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Phil Tufnell
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"The scary thing is, this pitch is an absolute belter."
Eng 64-7 (Johnson 8-2-11-3)
Mercifully for England, the Johnson over is done. Looking again, Moeen was completely done for pace, thinking about hooking, then not really doing anything. We've said this pitch was dead, that the bowlers could get nothing from it. Well, England's bowlers got nothing and their batsmen are 445 runs short of what Australia got after the tourists declared twice. Bad batting, unthreatening bowling? Both?
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"It's such a tame dismissal. It was a poor shot, the field was telling him what delivery he was going to get. If you take that shot on, there's only ever going to be one winner."
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Moeen c sub (S Marsh) b Johnson 0 (Eng 64-7)
So tell me about this plan to nullify Mitchell Johnson with a dead pitch? Because, right now, his fire and brimstone is sending England over the edge like lemmings off a cliff. Short and hostile to Moeen Ali, a fend to the waiting hands of short leg. It's that simple. Johnson has two in the first over after tea and England are being humiliated.
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Richard Wilkinson: Go home England, you're drunk...Or just useless…Probably both. Can't wait to hear Cook's excuses later.
Michael Inch: And that just sums up our day, why not chase another wide one!
Beach Bum: Buttler as terrible as Bell, Ballance and Lyth at the minute. If you were this bad at work, you get sacked. So should this lot.
Eng 64-6
There was no need for Jos Buttler to play at that delivery. It was angled across him from the left-armed Johnson, wide and going wider. First ball after the break, maybe leave it alone. Moeen Ali is the next man into the firing line.
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Phil Tufnell
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"It was short and outside off stump, Buttler could have left it, no feet, no conviction, he just fiddled it through to the keeper."
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Buttler c Nevill b Johnson 11 (Eng 64-6)
You've got to be kidding. The first ball after tea! Mitchell Johnson, just loosening up, explores the channel outside off stump. Jos Buttler, lead in his boots, meekly pokes an edge through to wicketkeeper Peter Nevill. This is a spineless surrender from England.
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David in London: Please put Boycott into the dressing room and lock the door. Then broadcast it. That'll sort them out!
Eng 64-5
Australia, to a man, have smiles as wide as the Tasman Sea. Alastair Cook sits alone on the England balcony, suffering in silence. Mitchell Johnson has the ball, Jos Buttler is in line to fend off the thunderbolts.
Let's be frank...
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The bell tolls, summoning the players for the final session of the day. Last rites, or desperate claw into Monday?
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I'm not one for knee-jerk reactions, but England have been three for spit in eight of their last 10 Test innings. Is the microscope on Lyth, Ballance, Bell or all three? If they go, who comes in? Is the cupboard full, or bare? What would your team be for the next Test at Edgbaston?
Looking on the bright side
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There are 37 overs left in the day, plus another eight if Australia ask for the extra half an hour. England have only faced 28 and have half their men back in the hutch.
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What on earth happened there? It's 18 months ago, all over again. At least then we had the option to sleep through. Australia have made this pitch look so docile, you feel like giving it a cuddle, while England's implosion has been inept. As for the run out of Ben Stokes, not running his bat in in order to not be hit with the ball? Village.
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John in Swindon: The potential margin of this inevitable Australia victory will put England's 169 run win in Cardiff into an uncomfortably sharp perspective.
Ian: I'm not one for knee jerk reactions, but really, what has to happen before Ian Bell's place is under threat? He's got a great record, but so has David Gower. Doesn't mean he should be batting at four in the next Test.
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With that cheery note from Oliver, it's time for me to sign off. Here's Stephan Shemilt.
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Oliver Clark, Bahrain: I don't know which element of England's performance has upset me most.... The lack of penetration and hostility with the ball? The amount of runs hemorrhaged through not having a third man/fine leg for most of the 200 overs in the field? Or is it the top order twice giving away their wickets through a lack of discipline and application? Stokes schoolboy error just now the icing on the cake.
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Would it break any sort of laws to chuck Boycott into the England dressing room and lock the door?
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"There was some poor thinking cricket from England. Australia have been hostile, but you'd expect that. You don't expect Alastair Cook to play such a poor shot. You just have to stick in there and bat sensibly. It's very, very disappointing."
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Rob in Manchester: The signs were there in England's second innings in Cardiff. Lost wickets when should've been grinding down the Aussies. Complete lack of mental strength. Unless drastic changes are made, this series could be over well before the Oval.
What about the weather?
Could the weather help England tomorrow? Not looking likely...
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Shloime Rose: On my way to Asda to buy a new screen. Threw my mug at it when Stokes was out.
David in Cheshire: This is one of the most disgraceful and pathetic performances that I've seen in decades of watching England. Changes have to be made, and Stokes needs a kick up the bum for that schoolboy error. Dreadful.
Tea - Eng 64-5
What is Trevor Bayliss going to be saying at tea? Is he the type to throw some of Lord's finest china about.
Suggestions for replacements in this England team include Zafar Ansari, Scott Borthwick, Adil Rashid... what's the criteria? Spin-bowling all-rounders? Moeen Ali would fit into that team too.
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Dr Rashmin Tamhne: Peter Nevill, Aussie wicket-keeper, has 6 wickets so far in this match: is he heading to a world record for debutant wicket-keeper?
Good question Rashmin. The answer is he may well be. He needs two more dismissals to equal the record of eight, jointly held by Australia's Brian Taber and England's Chris Read.
Eng 60-5 (Root 4, Buttler 8)
We've just had a quick look to see where this would rank in England's all-time heaviest defeats. Let's just say there's been a few. OK... a lot. Being an England cricket fan can be tortuous at times. Jos Buttler edges four through third man but that's very inconsequential now.
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Nathan Vickers: Not sure why Bell is invincible for selection. One flash of brilliance then 6-12 months of dross. Bell, Lyth and Ballance for chop.
Alexander Chilton: Time for Taylor and/or Morgan to come into the team for the next test? Lyth, Ballance and Bell totally out of form.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"You've got to run your bat in. He was afraid of getting hit. That is bad cricket. The way England have played, they don't seem to be up for the fight."
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Stokes run out 0 (Eng 52-5)
Can it get any worse? Yep... it probably can. Ben Stokes is run out by Mitchell Johnson's direct hit from mid-on. Replays show he didn't ground his bat, despite getting back to his crease in time. He looks like he was trying to avoid being hit by the ball. Awful.
England look like they've been gorging themselves on Collapso Soup in the dressing room.
Eng 52-4 (Lyon 4-2-5-1)
Ben Stokes.. has he edged to first slip? No, the ball misses everyone and everything and runs for four byes.
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Tom C: Don't think wholesale changes are the way to go, but might be worth considering Rashid into side with Moeen moving up order.
Hillel: Surprisingly few fans seem to realise that dropping players isn't always the answer.
Adam Mansell: It's (nearly) 1-1. Why do our fans have to throw toys out of the pram? Australia are a good team. Keep the same 11 and win the next un.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"Ian Bell doesn't play defensively very well. He's not capable of blocking, blocking, blocking like Cook. He's better when he's a little fluent, maybe just driving along the floor to mid-on for one. It was very good bowling from Lyon though."
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Bell c sub (S Marsh) b Lyon 11 (Eng 48-4)
Indeed the end could come tonight. Three maidens in a row and then Ian Bell pops up a catch to bat-pad off the spinner. This series is as good as 1-1 now.
Eng 48-3 (target 509)
Mitchell Marsh is taking some notable scalps in his Test career. His first Test wicket was Shikhar Dhawan and, in this Test, he got out Alastair Cook and Ben Stokes when well set and now Gary Ballance. Bright future.
After shaking up Joe Root with a helmet rattler early on, he sends down a maiden to the Yorkshire right-hander.
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Rob in Farnborough: I seem to recall Sam Robson and Nick Compton being dropped when they had better records than Lyth. Time to have another look at Compton. No room for sentiment in first class sport.
Eng 48-3 (Bell 11 off 47)
Ian Bell wipes the sweat from his brow either side of some very deliberate defensive shots. He bats out a maiden - which is a good plan. Means he can watch Mitchell Johnson from the non-striker's end.
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Rob Schofield: Hales for Lyth, Rashid for Ballance, Bairstow for Buttler. Root at three and Ali at four.
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Henry Blofeld
BBC Test Match Special
"One wonders what England can do about this. They are hanging on and that is all. They are not taming the Australian bowling at all."
Eng 48-3 (Johnson 7-1-11-1)
Mitchell Johnson's slower ball in this spell is clocking around 89mph. Like a cold, calculated hitman he is hunting down his kill. You wouldn't want to owe this man a fiver.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"England haven't played well. There's been some hostile bowling from the Australian quicks but England haven't shaped up well."
Eng 48-3 (Bell 11, Root 4)
This is frightening bowling from Mitchell Johnson. He bowls one at the throat of Joe Root who pops the ball up but it lands short of the man under the helmet. That was seriously quick. This is what I imagine it was like to watch the great West Indians in their pomp.
Eng 48-3 (target 509)
The pitch is beginning to look worn - dark footmarks at the batsman's feet and a puff of dust when the ball lands. It's no snake pit though. Even if England are to be beaten here, they can show fight and swell a few individual batting averages. Ian Bell sends back Joe Root when his junior partner attempts a sharp single to backward square. Bell is a little red in the face out there. He's working very hard.
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James Prez: Joe Root. If you can rescue this game I will name my first born after you. I believe in you. England expects.
Eng 47-3 (target 509)
It's as though Mitchell Johnson is landing the ball on a trampoline as delivery after delivery fly over a ducking Ian Bell and through to the keeper at head height.
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Jeremy Kent: Lots of comments about England top order but what about the potency of the bowlers? Only managed to get 10 Aussie wickets in 198 overs and some of those were when the Aussies were taking risks to get quick runs! I say get the wicket prepared to make a game for both batsman and bowlers and they try and compete, man for man! We have selected a side - now let them play the five Tests.
Bell dropped on 10
Eng 46-3
It's tough viewing this. Ian Bell edges Mitchell Johnson to first slip but Adam Voges, diving to his left, can't quite get there. Neither can the keeper. It went into the hand and out again.
Trouble at the top
30-4 and 42-3 in this match. England's long list of top-order horror shows is growing.
Eng 44-3 (Bell 10, Root 1)
What's the scariest job in team sport? Facing Mitchell Johnson when he's got his tail up? Going in for a 50-50 with Roy Keane? Short leg to Chris Gayle?
Brief respite for England as Nathan Lyon comes on and immediately goes round the wicket, trying to run the ball past the right-hander's bat. He's been doing that for two years and yet it still works. He averages 30 against England.
Against Pakistan it's 141, Sri Lanka it's 40 and India 37. Anything in that?
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Peter Brooks: Sorry but Lyth and Ballance need to be dropped. Root to open, Taylor to come in at 3, Moeen at 5, Rashid to come in at 8.
Angus McPhail: Good option for England at the top would be Zafar Ansari's, opens in the Championship and brings a spin option as well.
Chris Mitchell: Sadly Lyth will never be good enough for Test cricket and Ballance is just appalling. Buttler struggles too. Hales, Taylor and Bairstow in.
Eng 43-3 (target 509)
They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. England have to seriously consider making changes. My view? Alex Hales in for Adam Lyth. Gary Ballance and Ian Bell have enough credit in the bank. Just about.
Mitchell Johnson continues his bombardment of the batsmen, Joe Root more than happy to take a single at the start of the over.
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Jerry in Worcester: Jonny Bairstow gets yet another 50 this season. Moeen up to three and Jonny at six. Sorry Belly, time to go.
Charlie Drayton: Clarke easily coming out on top in the battle of the captains both with bat and brain.
Eng 42-3
Paul Farbrace has the enthusiasm of Mr Tumble, but even he looks a little dejected on that England balcony now. It's the manner of it all which is hard to swallow. The batsmen will cop some flak, but why wasn't the ball whistling through the keeper when England bowled? Maiden for Mitchell Starc.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"You have to start thinking that this is a common trend that's been happening for too many Test matches, seeing England 30 or 40 for three. You can't just keep making the same mistakes with the same people. There are options with the batting order, with Moeen at number eight."
Eng 42-3
There's an almost funeral-like silence on the England balcony. Everyone sits gazing into the distance. Got to be careful not to catch the boss's eye. Wicket maiden for Mitchell Marsh, who hits Joe Root with a nasty bouncer. The ball almost went through the grille.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"You've got to ask yourself, would Australia be delighted to see the same top four arrive at Edgbaston? And I would say they would. In a big series like this, if you start badly, like Adam Lyth, it's so hard to get back in front."
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Andrew Samson
BBC Test Match Special statistician
"In their past 13 innings, England have lost their third wicket for 52 or less eight times, and for 74 or less 11 times."
Eng 42-3
It's all down to Joe Root. Again. We should rename him John Rambo. He does the majority of his best work on his own.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"Mitchell Marsh is a terrific cricketer. That delivery had bounce, movement down the slope, a real good lifter. It's another good move from Clarke - every manoeuvre that he's made had worked."
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Ballance c Nevill b Marsh 14 (Eng 42-3)
All over tonight? Gary Ballance is the latest England batsman to trudge off, the latest to not learn from his mistakes. Stuck in the crease, poking at a decent ball, edging Mitchell Marsh behind. Once again, England are nothing for three, all on a deck where Australia racked up the runs. Pretty poor, really.
Scorecard
England 41-2 (16 overs) - target 509
Batsmen: Ballance 13* (31), Bell 10* (17)
Fall of wickets: 12-1(Lyth 7),23-2(Cook 11)
Bowling figures: Starc 6-2-16-1, Hazlewood 6-1-19-0, Johnson 4-1-7-1
Australia 566-8 dec & 254-2 dec
England 312
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Sore legs, Shane?
Michael Vaughan on Instagram: Tough job this commentary.
Shane Warne makes good use of the complementary masseuse employed by the ECB.
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"Ballance's feet just are not moving. It's like he's glued to the crease."
Drinks break
Eng 42-2
Mitchell Starc beats Gary Ballance's outside edge and starts chuckling. To himself. You know the type of laugh... the one which is half sinister and has you wondering if there's something else he's laughing about. Like, having your shirt on inside-out. A single into the leg side completes the over. Drinks.
Another one bites the dust
Eng 41-2 (Ballance 13, Bell 10)
If Gary Ballance looks a bit swan-like (feet flapping furiously beneath the surface), Ian Bell actually looks at home against such high-class bowling. You almost feel only he can get himself out.
A single gets him off strike and Mitchell Johnson resumes his battle with Gary Ballance - trying to zero in on that off stump. He's too full this time and is clipped for a single. MJ chunters back to his mark, gritting those pearly whites in the direction of the batsman. Plenty of 90mph stuff out there.
Eng 39-2 (target 509)
Gary Ballance looks half flustered but, at the same time, half ice cool. I'm not too sure what to make of his body language, as you might have guessed. He will be feeling much better now through... pushing four through point off Mitchell Starc. He could get 150 here. Or he could be out next ball.
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Josh Payne: Anyone remember the days when we weren't a wicket down before we had 20 runs on the board #bringbackcompton
Thomas Knights: Adam Lyth has a massive technical flaw. openers can not continue to get out that way at this level.
Dr Owain Connors: What's Marcus Trescothick doing between the 29th of July and the 2nd of August?
More downs than ups
Here's what Adam Lyth's skyscraper looks like if you input all of his Test-match scores. Just the one hundred sticks out.
Eng 35-2 (Johnson 3-1-5-1)
The Aussies, to a man, stand crouched and with their hands cupped together - waiting expectantly for a catch to come their way in the field while Mitchell Johnson thunders to the crease. It must be a great feeling as a fast bowler to know you can instil such fear. Ian Bell does that old batsman's trick of nibbling at one outside off but then quickly moving his bat in front of him to make it look like a deliberate leave. Crafty.
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Robert Stow: Some of the criticism of Lyth is ridiculous. He's had a bad Test but he's not a bad player.
Matthew Williams: Those bashing Lyth should remember he has scored heaps of runs for Yorkshire and needs time. Let's not go back to the 90s!
Matthew Berry: Is it the same people calling for Lyth's head that were so adamant he should replace Trott 6 months ago?Give the guy a chance!
England's opening options
So if Adam Lyth does bite the bullet after four unconvincing Tests, who could England turn to?
Alex Hales (Notts) Runs this season: 732 at an average of 45.75
Hales is an already an England opener in short-form cricket - could his strong first-class record this season lead to a Test call?
Nick Compton (Middlesex) Runs this season: 817 at 38.90
Compton partnered Alastair Cook at the top of the order in nine Tests in 2012 and 2013, but was dropped after averaging just 32. Time for another go?
Alex Lees (Yorks) Runs this season: 555 at 29.15
The next cab off the Yorkshire rank. Has toured with England Lions, but has not been in convincing form this season.
Angus Robson (Leics) Runs this season: 826 at 34.41
Remember discarded opener Sam Robson? His younger brother Angus is the leading-scoring English opener in the County Championship this season.
Eng 34-2 (53 overs left in the day)
To underline Josh Hazlewood's happy knack of being on the money with his line and length, only 34% of his Test dismissals have been caught - the rest have been bowled, lbw or caught behind. James Anderson has taken 40% of his wickets caught and Glenn McGrath 39%.
Another tidy over - the only blip a leg-side ball which is clipped for four by Ian Bell.
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Glenn McGrath
BBC Test Match Special
"Ian Bell has been having a tough time, but in the second innings in Cardiff he played more like his old self, some quality cricket shots. He's still got it."
Eng 30-2 (Ballance 7, Bell 5)
Does Alastair Cook have a problem against pace? I don't think he does, to be fair, but he's got a while to think about it. Mitchell Johnson is tearing in like a man possessed - that low, slingy action spreading fear through the England dressing room once again. A pandemic without cure, if you like. Getting one to nip into Gary Ballance the ball almost slices the left-hander in half.
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Phil Tufnell
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"The Australian bowlers look a lot more threatening than the English bowlers on this placid pitch. They've got the batsmen hopping about - you didn't see Warner or Smith hop about."
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Si on holiday in Hampshire: Sorry but there is no way Adam Lyth is good enough to be in the team. He is just a walking wicket.
Paul H in Kettering: OK - now can we admit the Adam Lyth experiment hasn't worked? Can we get someone else in because, frankly, no one could do any worse....
Eng 30-2 (target 509)
Since scoring 143 against West Indies in April, Ian Bell's Test scores are: 11 ,1, 0, 0, 1, 29, 12, 1, 1, 60, 1.
You could say he's due a big one? He and Gary Ballance trade singles while Joe Root sits squeezing his lip on the England balcony. Not again, he must be thinking.
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Tom in North Devon: It's all very well and good slamming Adam Lyth but we have been through four openers in the past four years because of a lack of patience and a lack of nous from our selectors in giving then time to settle. Test cricket is a huge leap from counties and the extra pressure from an Ashes series did for Compton and Carberry and now probably Lyth. He has an issue outside his off stump but that is correctable but we have no time. That's not just on him, the ECB are to blame too.
Eng 27-2 (Ballance 5, Bell 4)
If England do want an alternative to Adam Lyth, surely there's another opener they can pinch off Yorkshire? They grow on trees up there, don't they?
England won't have banked on their skipper nicking off so early, and now they have two batsmen at the crease who are in terrible nick - Ian Bell's first ball finding the inside edge and running away for a fortuitous four. Mitchell Johnson ends the over with a sharp bouncer which pins Bell's hands against his bat handle. Nasty stuff.
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Phil Tufnell
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"A little bit short, a little bit wide. Cook didn't have to play at it, but that's what pace does to you, it makes you have that little involuntary swish. That's a big wicket, Alastair Cook was the man to anchor this effort for England."
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Cook c Nevill b Johnson 11 (Eng 23-2)
Unbelievable. England skipper Alastair Cook plays a horrible waft outside off stump and Peter Nevill does the rest. That's the big one for Australia - and Mitchell Johnson knows it. He's jumping around like he's just pulled a £20 note out of the local village tombola.
Eng 23-1 (target 509)
A television graphic shows Adam Lyth's dismissals against seam this summer - six or seven white dots and only one of the balls was going on to hit the stumps. That's why bowling coaches preach to their students about hitting the top of off stump.
Gary Ballance gets a cheer when he punches four through the leg side. Mitchell Johnson to bowl the next over.
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Adam Lyth at least gets some support from Wisden editor Lawrence Booth...
Eng 18-1 (target 509)
Gary Ballance averages 38 this year, as opposed to 70 last year. Difficult second album and all that.
He's got a lot to think about as he leans on his bat at the non-striker's end, nervously gritting his teeth. A little something for England to cheer when Alastair Cook opens the face and guides four through point.
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Gary in Notts: And surely that is the last Test match for Lyth.
Ian in Wilmslow: Lyth, can't bat, can't catch, goodbye..
Lucy in Sutton: Lyth is going to cost us the Ashes. Surely that is his last Test innings?
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Sam Sheringham
BBC Sport at Lord's
"I was walking round the ground when that wicket fell. Genuinely had no idea Lyth had gone until I got back to the press box. Shows the stunned silence with which the early blow was greeted, as well as the fact that about half of the paying spectators were still lunching on the lawns."
Eng 12-1 (Cook 5, Ballance 0)
Henry Blofeld looks delighted with his cake, made by a TMS listener. How fitting if a seagull swooped down and had a nibble of it.
Michael Clarke and David Warner are in deep conversation, the skipper explaining why he has a specific field for Alastair Cook by playing a pretend shot. One ball later his mind is made up and Warner runs off to short mid-wicket. Clarke smiles with his fellow slip catchers. "It's easier to put him there. Let him chirp to the batsmen rather than us."
Josh Hazlewood appeals for leg-before against Alastair Cook. Not out. Going over leg stump.
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Nicholas Waite: Lyth's England career could well be over with that wicket. Ballance and Bell playing for their spots too I feel...
Justin Pineda: Adam Lyth is a dead weight for England. It's a free wicket when he is batting.
Hammer GTS: How many failures will Lyth be allowed before he is shown the door? surely better than him out there!
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Phil Tufnell
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"Lyth just seems a bit suspect to that short short, straightish delivery going away from him. I've seen him get out a few times fending off the back foot."
Eng 12-1
Gary Ballance won't need a shave tonight - he's just had one when Mitchell Starc whistled one past his lugholes. Welcome to the crease.
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Phil Tufnell
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"Lyth has got another good ball. Quick, short, ribcage-high, perfect line, a little bit of natural shape away from him. It just reared up on him. He could have left it on length, but it's one of those deliveries that you don't want early on."
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Lyth c Nevill b Starc 7 (Eng 12-1)
Not the start England needed after lunch. Adam Lyth falls in familiar fashion - edging a rising delivery behind to a gleeful wicketkeeper Peter Nevill. It was a decent delivery, to be fair.
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Henry Blofeld
BBC Test Match Special
"Luck is very important. You're not going to make progress against this sort of target unless the little things go your way."
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In case you missed it at lunch...
* The 218.2 overs against South Africa were 8-ball overs.
* Only includes fourth innings of a match.
Eng 12-0 (target 509)
Lots of missed heartbeats in England when Alastair Cook almost directs a catch to short leg. Luckily he played it with soft hands and the ball died before reaching the man under the helmet.
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Tom Barker: I get funny looks at 11.11am when I get up and stand on one leg...
Chris Crilly: Arrive at work with a trunk containing at least four spare laptops. Before starting work, wave each laptop about before selecting the one most appropriate for the working conditions.
Eng 11-0 (target 509)
Adam Lyth has one of those faces - he looks like he was cheeky at school, the type who left a smelly kipper behind in the teacher's drawer over the summer holidays. He's concentrating hard here, showing Josh Hazlewood the maker's name with one forward push and then whipping one off his pads through square leg for four.
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Josh Hazlewood has the first over after lunch. Adam Lyth on strike.
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Simon Arnold in Havant: I would love to introduce sledging at work. It would make talks from our management so much more interesting.
Chris in Reading: Work's just like the Ashes - lots of effort for a tiny reward.
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Here come the Australians. Michael Clarke rubs his hands together as though he's walking out to field in Aberdeen in December. I bet he puts the heating on in the summer.
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Andrew: Am I the only person looking at this innings as 100 runs a session? Great pitch, bat sensibly, you never know.
Julian in Durham: Surely 509 is not a notional target - in five sessions. We should go for it or lose trying - be positive.
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Before I get accused of having a liquid lunch, let me point out that I was only joking! England will be happy just to bat 150 overs and survive.
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So, earlier this year England racked up 400 in 50 overs against New Zealand. There's 62 overs left in the day. Twelve overs is enough to knock off an extra 100 runs, right?
Claim the extra half-hour tonight and it's all done and dusted.
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Thanks Stephan. Right... good news... I've worked it all out. England will win and we all get to watch the golf tomorrow. Hear me out...
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Marc Higginson has moved with purpose into the live text chair, ready to take you through the afternoon session. Enjoy.
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Paul Franklin: I like to think I could represent England at throwing screwed-up paper in bins. I'd like an array of bins no closer than 5m from my desk, and a nice wagon wheel graphic at the end of the day.
Miles Freeman: On a Monday morning I stick my car key into my computer keyboard and discuss with colleagues how fast it is likely to play and whether it will take spin on the fifth day.
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BBC Radio Test Match Special
Former Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls with some early arithmetic memories: "I used to score a whole series and work out the averages by hand, there were no computers or calculators. That can both educate and get children hooked on cricket."
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Gary Jones in Dubrovnik: When I log on I refuse to type anything if someone is moving in my eye line behind my screen and gesture for them to sit down.
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* The 218.2 overs against South Africa were 8-ball overs.
* Only includes fourth innings of a match.
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Rhys Phillips: When the office clears for lunch and end of day's play, we hang back to let the best performer walk off to applause.
John Haggis: There are a few people I work with that I would like to raise my finger to.
Lunch-time scorecard
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Richard Heaton: Been caught out at work a couple of times.
Jon Machell, Greece: I suppose an example of a reverse sweep at work would be to brush the biscuit crumbs off your desk with your non dominant hand!
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BBC Radio Test Match Special
Former Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls on his cricketing skills: "When I was 20 I was pretty good, 25 years on my wicketkeeping skills have curtailed, so it is less Alec Stewart and more Petr Cech, I just throw myself at the ball."
Balls up
Former Shadow Chancellor and part-time wicketkeeper Ed Balls is the guest on TMS this lunchtime.
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Glenn McGrath
BBC Test Match Special
"The morning went exactly how we thought it would. Australia came out looking to dominate, get the score up quickly. It's all on England now - they'll be looking to get through the next five sessions."
Lunch
Eng 7-0
England survive, their full complement of 10 wickets in the bank for the five sessions ahead. Three overs down, another 152 to go.
Eng 7-0 (target 509)
Chris Rogers has appeared on the Australia balcony, sitting in his training gear. He looks to be OK. An edge from Alastair Cook, but soft hands see it drop short of the slips. Two balls before the break...
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Terry Mahoney: When someone shares a document with me, instead of walking to my desk with it, it's thrown round the office until it gets to me.
Chris Jones: I would like to bring in coffee snakes made up of plastic coffee machine cups like the beer snakes the Western terrace do at Headingley. Working at an engineering company I bet it could easily go the length of the office.
Eng 7-0 (target 509)
Josh Hazlewood shares the new ball, four slips waiting for him to find the edge of Lyth's bat. Beers passed around the crowd, spectators watching what seems like a completely different sport to earlier. So far, it has been a batsman's game, now, they are stalked by prowling fast bowlers. Lyth and Cook survive with a single each. One more before the break.
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Dan Gregson: I like the idea of reading the first 6 emails of the day but just letting them harmlessly go by.
Michael Rose: I'd like to a veto a colleague's suggestion that's wide of the mark by sticking both my arms out.
Craig McMillan: I'd like a Geoffrey Boycott pep talk before work starts, with analysis of performance throughout the day.
Eng 5-0
Ooofffff! Allow me to just take my heart from my mouth. Cook stuck on the crease, hit on the pads, thought of an appeal. He's hit it, right? Indeed he has. England through the first over. Just 154 to go.
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Steven McKee: England to win by 10 wickets before tea tomorrow. Cook 300* and Lyth 180* plus 29 extras.
Noworrieshouse: On a more realistic note I just want to see some fight and make them work for it. Not 45 for 3.
James Gutteridge: England guaranteed to be 10-2 by lunch.
Eng 1-0 (target 509)
It's not that bad for Adam Lyth, is it? Cheers when he defends the first ball, another when he takes a single to get off a pair. At least he can smile about it.
All down to Cook?
Rahul Dravid (31,349), Sachin Tendulkar (29,431), Jacques Kallis (28,900), Shivnarine Chanderpaul (27,394), Allan Border (26,955), Alastair Cook (19,692).
Eng 0-0
Here come the England openers, the first step on a long road they hope leads to Monday evening. Mitchell Starc has the ball, Lyth takes guard. Captain Cook waits at t'other end.
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Sam Sheringham
BBC Sport at Lord's
"Preparing the Lord's pitch between innings is a seven-man job. Four of them are brushing away with brooms, one is painting the lines, another is driving the heavy roller up and down the wicket, while groundsman Mick Hunt watches on. Australia coach Darren Lehmann is also an interested spectator."
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TV has just shown a montage of the ways Adam Lyth and Gary Ballance keep getting out. Lyth edge after edge. Ballance bowled or caught behind to balls of a full length. Wicket after wicket. The same man continually trudging off. Imagine if that's on in the dressing room? Your confidence would be shot.
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Andrew Samson
BBC Test Match Special statistician
"Johannesburg in January 2010 was the last time James Anderson failed to take a wicket in a Test match. That's a sequence of 59 Tests in which he has taken a wicket - the second-longest such sequence for England, after Fred Trueman's 67."
End-of-innings scorecard
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Remember the first innings? England had 10 minutes to prepare, then saw Adam Lyth gone after only two balls. He and Cook sprinted off to pad up. Right now, one of them is probably frantically searching for a missing inner thigh pad.
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Glenn McGrath
BBC Test Match Special
"Watching Anderson and Broad walk off the field, their shoulders are slumped. This wicket has just nullified their effectiveness."
Declaration
Aus 254-2
There it is, Australia have had enough. Mitchell Marsh belts Moeen Ali for two straight sixes, then Michael Clarke calls time. England need a nominal 509 to win. More importantly, they have five sessions and a bit to bat to save the draw. That bit will be 10 minutes or so before lunch, probably three overs.
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John in Swansea: I suppose the 'Live Text Desk' equivalent of going round the wicket would be to move the mouse to the other side of the keyboard, but still use your dominant hand to operate it?
Aus 239-2 (lead by 493)
This is all very odd. The only reason to bat on for Australia is to grind England down. It doesn't make for much of a spectacle, the hum of the Lord's crowd virtually non-existent. Hello, what's this? Michael Clarke has called for some gloves. A message being sent back to the dressing room?
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Glenn McGrath
BBC Test Match Special
"I think Australia will probably continue until lunch, maybe even come out for one over after lunch just to get in the mind of the England batsmen."
Aus 231-2 (lead by 485)
Australia are dabbing, nudging and occasionally swiping, without putting too many more on their score. Four runs from Moeen Ali's over, Australia 485 in front. Mitchell Johnson still on the balcony, not a man set to be bowling soon.
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Cricket Australia's Samuel Ferris on Twitter: Most runs after 30 Tests. Don Bradman: 3,969. Everton Weekes: 2,938. Steve Smith: 2,925.
Aus 227-2 (lead by 481)
There's not much sign of activity on the Aussie balcony, no bowlers getting changed, David Warner still sitting in his training gear. Michael Clarke, the man who matters, is out in the middle, essentially having a net. Every over England bowl is one more they won't have to face.
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Sam Sheringham
BBC Sport at Lord's
"A very special delivery to the TMS box. Commentator-themed cakes!"
Aus 222-2 (lead by 476)
I wonder if Australia will give England 10 minutes to bat before lunch? Maybe declare at about 12:40? Surely that's what England would least like? Having said that, there's no sign of intent against Moeen here. Just two from it.
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JoElle: The entire office celebrates when somebody working for a competitor is dismissed.
Rufus: When I observe a teacher from another department, I make unpleasant comments about his mum to put him off.
Rob: My job is a bit like England at Lord's: we toil away all day while a few old blokes in suits have an enormous lunch and a nap.
Unorthodox Smith
Aus 219-2 (lead by 473)
One thing to note from the Smith wicket is how much the ball turned. Pitched outside off, came back to hit the timber. Nathan Lyon will be pleased to see that. Mitchell Marsh is the new man, promoted above Adam Voges, probably to give it a whack rather than because of the blow Voges took while fielding. One more thing from Smith's innings, have a look at the upcoming picture. Outrageous.
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Henry Blofeld
BBC Test Match Special
"Smith played magnificently well. If he isn't the best batsman in the world at the moment, that title will soon belong to him. The way of that dismissal indicates that the declaration isn't far off."
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Smith b Moeen 58 (Aus 210-2)
Steve Smith has fallen on his sword in the search for runs and entertainment. Moeen Ali is again the man to chip in with the wicket, taking the off stump after Smith tries to belt the ball over the pavilion. Moeen has eight wickets in the series now.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"You know you're in good form when you can play a controlled inside edge! At this rate Australia could quite easily be bowling before lunch."
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Andrew Samson
BBC Test Match Special statistician
"Steve Smith's fifty came up off 43 balls - his fastest half-century in Test cricket. He becomes the first Australian to score a double hundred and a fifty in an Ashes Test since Donald Bradman in 1934."
50 for Steve Smith
Aus 208-1
This is ridiculous. You know those games you played as a kid? The one where one lad got loads of runs, did pretty much anything he liked while you had to stand in the field? Steve Smith is doing that now. Slap through point for four, a ridiculous whip to fine leg to bring up a 43-ball half-century, then a trick shot between the legs to the same region. He's closing in on 300 runs in the match.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"This is a good position for Michael Clarke. Previously he's been watching the ball to survive; now he can watch the ball looking to score. He hasn't been in great form, but if he can get a little cameo going, 30 or 40 runs, that would give him his confidence back."
Aus 193-1 (lead by 447)
Is this one-day mode? It's even more defensive than that, fielders scattered to all parts. Michael Clarke, in need of some runs, goes inside out to loft Moeen over mid-off for four. Alastair Cook has had enough, he's into the Long Room for a trip to the dressing room. If I was him and I'd stay there and put my pads on.
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Steven F Galloway: When I make a cuppa or visit the toilet a young lad comes and sits at my desk for me.
Ciaran Tragheim: Being voted player of the week and getting the classic bottle of Veuve Clicquot champagne to 'share' with the rest of the office.
Andy Bloor: Maybe wear a helmet and other protective equipment when I have to go into see the boss.
Aus 187-1 (Smith 41, Clarke 9)
All sorts of comedy goings on out there now. Broad to Smith, employing the round the wicket, wide of off stump tactics he used to try in limited-overs cricket. Smith receives the telegram and stands baseball-style, trying to belt to Maida Vale. No boundary, but seven off.
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Nigel in Brighouse: Dear me England's body language is terrible! Its like we have gone back to the last Ashes series. Australia look so comfortable its untrue. Where is the aggression, invention and desire to just try something different? Nothing to lose now. I can see England getting rolled over here for about 120.
Scorecard update
Australia 180-1 (39 overs) - lead by 434 runs
Batsmen: Smith 37*, Clarke 6*
Fall of wickets: 114-0 (Rogers retired hurt 49), 165-1 (Warner 83)
Bowling figures: Anderson 7-0-38-0, Broad 6-2-20-0, Moeen 11-0-49-1, Wood 10-3-39-0, Stokes 3-0-20-0, Root 2-0-9-0
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"I think Australia have done a good job this morning. They've put plenty of runs on the board and only lost one wicket. Steve Smith is in such good nick he's hardly misplaced a shot."
Chris Rogers update
Aus 180-1
The word from Cricket Australia is that Chris Rogers had a sudden dizzy spell, which has happened before. He's resting in the dressing rooms. There's no word on if it is linked to the recent blows he had to the head or if he will bat and field later. Moeen before drinks, a boundary apiece to Clarke and Smith.
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Adam Dawkins: I'd like to hand somebody my jumper and put my glasses on their head when I start a coding spell.
Barry Coppins: I would like to bring in a night watchman to do the last half hour at work for me.
JoElle: If a day isn't going well, the office supervisor makes everybody sit in different places.
Aus 171-1 (lead by 425)
I'm seeing some reports that Chris Rogers remains at Lord's. That's unconfirmed, mind. Stuart Broad is trying to hang the ball outside Steve Smith's off stump, with a packed off-side field. Smith gets a touch frustrated, then simply belts over mid-off for four.
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Doug Wilton: If I send 3 good emails in succession, I stand up and show everyone in the office my laptop.
Disco Stu: I'd like to sit around in just shorts until it's my time to do some work.
Stephen: If anyone ever suggests the ridiculous "knuckle touch" after routine tasks, I'll swear I'll deliberately aim lower.
Aus 167-1 (Moeen 10-0-40-1)
Michael Clarke is the new man, so Chris Rogers remains off the field. We await an update on his condition. Australia have scored 59 runs in 11 overs this morning. There are 79 overs remaining in the day, less two for the change of innings.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"There's no need for that stroke, he's been scoring quickly. Warner is very talented but sometimes his brains go out the window."
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Warner c Cook b Moeen 83 (Aus 164-1)
I don't even think this counts as a consolation wicket. It does at least temporarily slow the Aussie charge. David Warner looking to belt Moeen Ali, only finding a very sharp catch by Alastair Cook at short cover. Warner misses out on a Lord's ton and falls to Moeen for the third time in the series.
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Jim Maxwell
BBC Test Match Special
"Warner is taking a few chances here, which he can do because the scoreboard is in Australia's favour. Smith loves to be inventive and he too has got the chance to indulge himself."
Aus 164-0 (lead by 419)
England sharing the workload of their seam bowlers - no point flogging them into the ground in a situation like this. Stuart Broad on, Steve Smith playing an outrageous sweep shot to an 80mph delivery in order to get the ball to the vacant fine leg area. Australia are toying with England here, sticking a finger into an 18-month old wound and wiggling it about.
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Howard Horner: Unless Anderson takes a wicket, he's on course to record his worst ever match figures. Previous worst: 0-111 against SA in 2010.
Aus 158-0 (lead by 412)
I'm enjoying the cricketing customs that could be transferred to the office. Is the obligatory over of spin before the lunch break something we could do, meaning we all knock off five minutes early? Speaking of spin, still Moeen, Smith edging wide of slip for four. Michael Clarke peers through the dressing room window, one so small it looks like it could be the loo. He's pondering. England wickets divided by time equals declaration?
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Ian Anderson: I'd like to be applauded back to my desk after a particularly good lunch.
Jonathon Fernyhough: I would very much like to have work stopped for bad light and for rain, forcing everyone to retire to the kitchen for tea and cake until conditions improve.
Aus 151-0 (Warner 78, Smith 19)
Seatbelts. David Warner is on the charge, missing with a hoik, then blazing Wood through the off side for four. Warner, the second-innings dasher, is hunting that place on the Lord's honours board. Steve Smith, his name already there, joins the party with a belt to cow corner.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"The real game starts after lunch. This is just the hors-d'oeuvre."
Aus 142-0 (lead by 396)
Spin for the first time today, with Steve Smith deciding that the introduction of Moeen Ali is a signal to get on with it. Big yahoo of a drive, some good fortune to get three via an inside edge. Though England have bowled reasonably well, it's hard to overstate the flatness of the game. That might be because of the state of play, or because of a lingering concern for Chris Rogers.
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Nick Smith: I had to high five everyone in a company each time I arrived at and left the office. Cringe.
James Boswell: Maybe you could start rubbing the keyboard on your trousers to keep the shine on it.
Henry Walmsley: Can we have a shorter format of work too?
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Close!
Aus 133-0
England a fingernail from a wicket. Mark Wood, accurate this morning, has David Warner pulling a ball that isn't quite there. It hits high on the bat, flying towards Joe Root at short mid-wicket. He leaps, but it's just out of his grasp. No joy for England yet, but they have prevented Australia from scoring at a lick.
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Phil Tufnell
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"Australia are making it look easy. The England batsmen will be having a look at this, thinking 'If they can do it, why can't we?'"
Aus 130-0 (lead by 384)
What we are witnessing here is not a contest. It is merely the pre-amble to the contest. The match is effectively on hold until England are sent out to bat - that is when we will have a better idea of the result. We know (pretty much) that Australia will not lose, it's just a case of if they can win. For now, they are taking as many runs as they wish, including a dreamy Steve Smith cover drive for four.
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Sam Sheringham
BBC Sport at Lord's
"Wood's pace is considerably down on the first Test. In Cardiff he was hitting the high 80s and occasionally 90mph, but here he's around the 80mph mark. The 25-year-old has only played 27 first-class matches since making his Durham debut in 2011, so is he feeling the strain of back-to-back Tests?"
Aus 126-0 (Warner 65, Smith 7)
Martin, I'm fascinated by this. I wonder how many of us would like a huddle at the beginning of the working day. Maybe we should try it on the live text desk? Are there other cricketing customs that could transfer to the office? Mark Wood, again good round the wicket to Warner, before straying too leg-side to be clipped for four.
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Martin from Wolverhampton: Can I please have your views on huddling at the start of a days play? A recent development at work is that we get together for a huddle at the start of the day and I think it a bit silly, I feel uncomfortable and a bit embarrassed. Is this some kind of cunning management technique to keep us on our toes? Professionals do not need words of wisdom or inspiration at the start of the day, they should just get on with it. What on earth are England going to say? "Just 366 behind, keep it tight lads and keep it below 700"?
Aus 122-0 (lead by 376)
That odd occurrence with Chris Rogers has cast an odd feeling over the proceedings, as if the intensity has been taken out of the cricket. Anderson, the umpire again getting a good look at his follow-through, with Smith clipping off his pads for four.
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Evan Samuel: Hope Rogers is ok - vertigo? Delayed concussion? Take no chances.
Aus 114-0
Looking at the replays, Rogers knew something wasn't right at the end of Wood's over. He stood still, then waved to the dressing room. He spoke to Warner, who told him to sit down. I can't remember seeing anything like that in a Test match before.
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Phil Tufnell
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"Something must be up, because he's on 49 and batters do like a fifty."
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"Rogers is just sitting there absolutely motionless, he's looking a bit vacant. He's clearly had a bit of a turn. It's as if he's been overcome by something."
Rogers retires on 49 (Aus 114-0)
Rogers, remember, got hit on the head from the very first ball of the second day. He also missed both Test matches on the tour of West Indies after taking a blow to the head. There's no suggestion yet that those blows are linked. He has retired, with Steve Smith now coming to the crease.
Aus 114-0
There's a touch of concern for Chris Rogers here. He's on his knees, helmet off, looking rather dizzy. David Warner is by his side, hand on shoulder, with Brad Haddin running on a drink and now the physio too. He looks very dazed.
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Phil Tufnell
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"It still looks very flat. The Australian bowlers used the hill a bit better - they just got the ball to nip about. England's bowlers haven't got any sideways movement at all."
Aus 114-0 (Rogers 49, Warner 60)
Are we assuming that Australia will leave themselves about five sessions in which to bowl England out? Perhaps with a target of about 500? I suppose England can cut the time they have to bat by taking wickets, lengthening the time it takes Australia to get those 130 or so runs. Mark Wood sharing morning duties, round the wicket with a decent line to David Warner. Good maiden.
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BBC Radio 5 live
Australia coach Darren Lehmann on BBC Sportsweek: "It's more about giving ourselves time to bowl England out than runs on the board. I thought we bowled beautifully in the first innings - to bowl England out in 90 overs was a decent effort, so hopefully we can do the same in the second innings and pick up some early wickets with the new ball."
Aus 114-0 (lead by 368)
Lord's really is a beautiful picture this morning, cricketing perfection. Sunshine overhead, blue sky and the odd white cloud. It's a stark contrast to the trouble England find themselves in and at odds with the teeing off Australia might be about to do. Round the wicket, Anderson gets one to spit at Rogers - not really a great sign for England - before Rogers goes through point for four.
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Aus 108-0 (lead by 362)
Alastair Cook, purposeful look on his face, leads his troops out into the Lord's sunshine. He might as well be leading them to the gallows. They are set for a very difficult morning of chasing leather. Australia, 362 ahead, will be looking to belt another 150 or so before lunch. James Anderson to Chris Rogers. Play.
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Clare Connor has rung the five-minute bell to summon the players through the Long Room. I was at university with Clare Connor's brother. He bowls left-arm spin.
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Mark J Smith: At Lord's ready to see England pull off an historic Test comeback.
Activity Tracker: Du Plessis led rearguard action against Aussies in their own backyard. England can still draw. Openers need to hold fort.
Well remembered Activity Tracker - South Africa's Faf du Plessis batted for 466 minutes to save a Test match against Australia in Adelaide in 2012.
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Thanks, Marc. I wonder if England are saying a little prayer to the patron saint of rearguards - Mike Atherton.
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Okey dokey... my build-up work is done. It's time for some cricket. Here's Stephan Shemilt.
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Sam Sheringham
BBC Sport at Lord's
"The route from the Nursery Ground to the outfield is a popular haunt for autograph hunters. Chris Rogers was in obliging mood this morning."
The reasons why Australia didn't enforce follow on
There's a really interesting article on the ABC website about why teams are reluctant to enforce the follow-on these days. Apparently it's to do with the physical well-being of players.
"The follow-on used to be more ruthlessly applied: in 1948 Don Bradman had his bowlers send down 123 of the era's eight-ball overs against India, then butter up again as soon as that innings closed," writes Geoff Lemon.
"But in Bradman's day plenty of other things were different. Test matches had rest days. Fielding and running between wickets were less physically intense.
"The current era is one of sports scientists, bowling workloads and constant medical observation."
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Adam Wheeler: If England lose so be it. But they should go down fighting and with intent. Make the Aussies earn the wickets.
Little Furry Despot: Don't see why everyone is being so negative! Score 120 in each of the five sessions = 600 runs! Easy for new positive England!
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Glenn McGrath
BBC Test Match Special
"The batsmen will come out and look to score quick runs. They will want a lead of about 500 runs, so the morning session should be good viewing."
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BBC Radio Test Match Special
BBC Weather's Helen Willetts on TMS: "It is absolutely glorious this morning - the rain cleared well before the start of play. There is a narrowing band of rain but it's unlikely that it's going to have any real consequence - there's only a very small risk of an interruption. The weather-front returns tomorrow with some drizzly weather, but I think today we're going to see a lot of play."
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View from the Aussie camp
Mitchell Marsh also spoke to TMS last night, saying: "Hopefully we can bat well and really put England under pressure tomorrow afternoon and on day five."
On the subject of how far ahead they might be when skipper Michael Clarke makes a declaration, Marsh added: "I'm sure Michael has a total in mind, but I'm not sure [what it is]. I imagine it will be around the 450 to 500 mark."
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More from England all-rounder Ben Stokes on TMS: "Saturday was a tough day. We know that we're probably going to have to bat 150 overs on day four and day five to save the game. We lost some cheap wickets in the first innings and we've got to be more disciplined and more correct as a batting unit. It's a bit of an up-and-down pitch, but I don't think it's changed since the first ball - there's not much turn so I think it's a pretty decent wicket."
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Pete: I have a feeling that Clarke will send out his men to play Twenty20 for an hour and a half this morning before waving his troops in. Being set 475-ish over 5-and-a-bit sessions would give Al's boys even less chance of maintaining their series lead than being set 550+ in 4 sessions.
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What's your favourite England rearguard action from down the years? Atherton in South Africa? Monty and Jimmy at Cardiff? One of many Collingwood innings? Let us know.
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Glenn McGrath
BBC Test Match Special
"It's Australia's match to win, but it's still a difficult track to take 20 wickets on."
'No demons'
Ben Stokes, as you might expect, has not thrown the towel in yet, telling the media last night that a draw is possible on a pitch offering very little to the bowlers.
"We've got to get our head around the fact that we are probably going to have to bat 150 overs to try and save the game," he said.
"If there's ever a wicket to do it on it's this one. There are no real demons in it, there's not too much pace and there's not too much turn."
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"The rain dance didn't work - it's a beautiful day with blue skies. They know they're going to have to bat five sessions - the history books are against them, and it's going to be very difficult, particularly with three of the top four under huge pressure. It's a big challenge for them. Australia have been ruthless, the left-arm bowlers were quick and hostile - England have got a hell of a job to get anything out of this Test match."
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Lazlo Melonheart: Obviously excellent batsman, but it always felt like Bell did well when England were up but struggled when he needed to save the day.
The Cricket Wolf: Sad to say, Bell will never be considered a great. Beautiful to watch, but mentally fragile. 2013 Ashes notable exception.
Howard Horner: Ian Bell, a great? Not for me. He's a wonderful batsmen, unquestionably, but the term 'great' shouldn't be applied liberally.
Tree trunk
Former England captain Michael Vaughan on Instagram: Just a indication of the size of David Warners Bat... #Huge #Ashes
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Clarke scons Starc
The importance of Chef
Surely England's only hopes of saving this Test rest with Alastair Cook batting. And batting. And batting. And batting.
Writing for Cricinfo, George Dobell underlined the value of England's Mr Block: "Whatever waits the other side of a nuclear holocaust - famine, pestilence and an uncontrolled return of the heavy roller in county cricket to name but three catastrophes - it seems safe to assume that, as the first survivors peep from behind their curtains and wonder whether Starbucks remains unscathed, Alastair Cook will be scratching his mark and preparing to take strike against the four horsemen of the apocalypse."
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Broad riles Australians. Again.
Australia's strong position in this game has much to do with double-centurion Steve Smith. He's becoming a national treasure down under - and they cannot believe anyone would question the ability of their star batsman.
Stuart Broad still has doubts though, with Fox Sports attributing the following to the England fast bowler: "Well these are more Indian conditions than English conditions, aren't they?" said Broad. "He's obviously a fantastic player.
"(But) when the ball doesn't seam on the wicket it's always hard to judge (it's quality)."
Benteke closer to Liverpool deal
Some breaking football transfer news for you... Liverpool have reached an agreement with Aston Villa over payment terms on their £32.5m move for Cristian Benteke.
The Anfield club have now arranged a medical, which will take place in the UK. Liverpool's club doctor will fly home from the club's tour of Australia to complete the medical but Benteke will not join up with his new team-mates Down Under.
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Glenn McGrath
BBC Test Match Special
"This Test is there for Australia to win. They have five sessions and they'll create 10 chances to take wickets."
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Interesting point from Dave Kidd. Ian Bell has to be one of the most technically correct players England have ever produced. However, despite all of his ability, will he ever be considered a great? You tell me.
Bell in 'iffy form'
Journalist Dave Kidd, speaking on 5 live: "There's always a but with Ian Bell. It's his seventh Ashes series, but you don't think the Australians see him as a man of that stature. He doesn't give an air of confidence when he's in iffy form and Australian bowlers can always smell fear."
Bell 'a class act'
Lancashire coach Ashley Giles on the form of one of England's key batsmen: "Ian Bell is a class act. He's in a slump and he plays at his best when he feels confident. When he looks 10ft tall, with a good posture he looks at his best."
'A huge task for England'
Ex-England spinner Ashley Giles, speaking to BBC Radio 5 live: "Realistically it's a huge task now for England. The wicket still looks good and pitches at Lord's tend to get better. On the whole it's played pretty true but there's still a lot of time in the game. Australia will look to get 500 and then put England under pressure.
"Let's not forget that one Test match ago we were singing the praises of this team. Scoreboard pressure does funny things - Australia scoring 560-odd was always going to put England under pressure."
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Simon Newport: No changes needed, Australia have outperformed us (so far), just like we did in the first match, still two days to go mind.
Pete Thorneycroft: Moeen up the order & bring in Bairstow. Job done
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Glenn McGrath
BBC Test Match Special
"I'm a little disappointed with the wicket. You should concentrate on your own strengths and not the opposition. It's too slow and too hard for the fast bowlers if a batsman gets in."
More Lord's pitch criticism
England's problems in this game are of their own making, according to their former captain Michael Vaughan who believes the hosts have "shot themselves in the foot" with the pitch which was prepared.
"It hasn't been good for England or for cricket," Vaughan said. "It just gave Australia the opportunity to get that confident buzz back into the side.
"The toss was always going to be important. We saw a pitch here against New Zealand a few weeks ago that had zip, carry, a little bit of everything. By preparing a real slow wicket, you're basically saying you don't trust your top seven, which is a really poor message to send."
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While we're on the subject of Darren Lehmann, what's the old joker up to here?
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Australia coach Darren Lehmann was also asked what he thought about his compatriot Trevor Bayliss being in charge of England: "It's always interesting, we know him well because he coached our T20 side last summer. It's a really tight struggle strategically but as coaches we just get the players ready and give them good advice."
Boof speaks
Australia head coach Darren Lehmann has been speaking to BBC Radio 5 live about his team's plans: "This morning's about getting quick runs and then we'll take it from there. The captain will work out a plan, but it's about time more than runs now.
"We've played some decent cricket over the last 18 months so it's been a great response after what happened at Cardiff."
Pint-sized Ashes
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Comparing all-rounders
Stokes rising to the challenge
Despite being in such a precarious position in the match, England can take positives from this match - in particular from the batting of Ben Stokes who made 87 in their first innings.
BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew wrote about Stokes: "His performances this summer have established him as a proper Test batsman. It was a great decision to move him up to number six and you can see the confidence that has given him.
"The one area where he is still a work in progress is his bowling. He often gets compared to Andrew Flintoff, and he is probably already a better batsman than England's 2005 hero but he's some way off being the bowler Flintoff was."
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Glenn McGrath
BBC Test Match Special
"Australia will look to push the score up around 500 and then have four and a half sessions to bowl England out."
Weather forecast
BBC Weather's Chris Fawkes: "Today is essentially a dry day for the Ashes Test at Lord's with sunny spells, a light southwesterly breeze and highs of 24C. There is however a very small risk of a brief light shower around 3pm - but the chances are that the front bringing this shower risk will have died long before reaching London, so it's most likely to stay dry.
"Tomorrow will be a much cloudier day with some morning spots of drizzle in the air, gradually turning brighter but feeling humid. Highs of 24C."
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Sam Sheringham
BBC Sport at Lord's
"Two days ago, today was forecast to be a washout. Now it looks like beach weather. Cue groans galore at the England team hotel."
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Just briefly on the five sessions thing... only five teams in history have batted for 150 overs to save a Test. The odds aren't on the side of Alastair Cook's men.
England can still save this game - Agnew
However, our very own Jonathan Agnew is not writing England off just yet - he thinks they have enough ability to bat for a draw.
"England are likely to have to survive the best part of five sessions to save the game, but I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to do it," Agnew said.
"The ball is not doing anything at all. It hasn't spun and even if it does spin it will do so very slowly and without bounce.
"It's a slow, true pitch and there's no real bounce to terrify the lower order so if England play every ball very carefully they can save this match."
Back pages
The Sunday Telegraph have summed it up pretty well this morning:
All down to Cap'n Cook?
Let's be honest, it's not looking good for England. But there is hope - there is some weather knocking around and Alastair Cook looks back to his match-saving best. He was unlucky not to get a century yesterday.
England's uphill struggle
Of course, I say that in jest - there's plenty to enjoy about this Ashes battle, even if England are staring at defeat in the second Test at Lord's.
The Australians will begin the day 362 runs ahead with 10 second-innings wickets in hand. A declaration could come at any time - and then England will have the best part of two days to try and survive. It's a tall order.
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