So is Labour ‘control freakish’?published at 09:20 British Summer Time 21 July
Labour’s plans to nationalise the railways and form its own energy investment company - so, after the previous planning exchange, Laura asks whether Reeves thinks "government knows best" .
Reeves points to Labour’s housing plan, which involves local targets for new houses, as an example of power in the community.
She says there must be government-mandated housing targets because house ownership is going backwards, fewer people can get into the market, and rents are “through the roof”.
Kuenssberg puts it to Reeves that the level of involvement proposed by the government is “control freakish”.
Reeves responds that most people think the projects, such as the rail nationalisation, is an improvement - and that Labour was elected to change things.
"Things aren't going to carry on as they were," she says. "We're not about the status quo."