Summary

  • Former Education Secretary Gavin Williamson tells the Covid inquiry mistakes were made in planning for the pandemic and during it, and says he wishes he had done things differently

  • Williamson also confirms the government paper on school closures in England was commissioned and drafted overnight

  • He also says that former Prime Minister Boris Johnson gave "a false sense of hope" over schools reopening in May 2020

  • All four nations of the UK closed schools to most children from 23 March 2020, during the first lockdown

  • Williamson was responsible for education in England - the devolved administrations in Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland set their own policies

  1. Former education secretary expresses regret over school Covid policy - a recappublished at 15:52 BST 14 October

    Now in its eighth module, the long-running Covid inquiry has turned its attention the impact of the pandemic on children and young people.

    Today, Gavin Williamson - who headed was education secretary during the pandemic - has been answering some of the inquiry's questions. Here's what he said:

    We're ending our live coverage here now. But the inquiry is continuing to hear more evidence today - you can keep following along by pressing watch live at the top of the page.

  2. Williamson finishes taking questions as inquiry breakspublished at 15:25 BST 14 October

    Gavin Williamson has now finished taking questions from the inquiry as attendees take a short break.

    In a few minutes, the inquiry will question Jean Blair, on behalf of the Scottish Qualifications Authority.

    We won't be covering Blair's questioning in text here, but you'll still be able to follow along by pressing watch live at the top of the page.

  3. 'The best interest of children' to get them into classrooms, says Williamsonpublished at 15:21 BST 14 October

    Screen grab from the UK Covid-19 Inquiry live stream of former education secretary Sir Gavin Williamson giving evidence for module 8 (children and young people) of the UK Covid-19 Inquiry, at Dorland House in LondonImage source, PA Media

    Next Williamson is asked how the Department for Education grappled with guidance from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage), and what was it about that advice that he deemed to be wrong.

    Speaking about the guidance over school closures, Williamson says it would betray his "natural interest" to see schools not deliver education, adding that he did what he thought was right for children.

    "The best interest of children was to be able to get education, in a classroom, with their amazing teachers," he says.

    Pressed on whether he took on board the advice, Williamson says his job was to do what was in the best interest of children, not make epidemiological assessments.

  4. 'Most of the time' children's needs are prioritised in government decision making - Williamsonpublished at 15:19 BST 14 October

    A question now from a man speaking on behalf of children's rights organisations.

    He asks to what extent children and young people's rights and needs were prioritised in decision making at the heart of government.

    "Most of the time" they were, says Williamson.

    "I viewed it as my responsibility to try and battle for those who would not have a voice around the cabinet table," he says.

    But he adds that people are not able to attend every meeting.

    Referencing a specific meeting he did not attend, where the decision was made to close schools, he says this should change for future pandemic planning.

    "Going forward," he explains, "if you are going to make the decision to close schools, you need to have the education secretary there to be a part of that."

  5. Why were schools not given advice about long covid in 2021?published at 15:10 BST 14 October

    Gavin Williamson

    Counsel Clair Dobbin's questioning of Gavin Williamson has finished.

    Now it's time for the inquiry's core participants to question the former education secretary.

    A legal representative for Long Covid Kids and Long Covid Kids Scotland starts by asking Williamson why the Department for Education downgraded proposed guidance to schools about long covid to "informal", just before pupils returned to classrooms in September 2021.

    Williamson says this was "probably on the advice we were receiving from maybe the Department for Health and Social Care".

    The legal representative asks if it "wasn't it essential" to give support and advice to schools after the government was told that cases of long covid were growing by May 2021, before telling the inquiry that no advice at all was circulated in the end.

    "We are not a Department for Health. We're a Department for Education," Williamson says, adding it was a "newly-emerging issue we'd become aware of" and that "rushed" and "incorrect" advice "would have been even more damaging" than admitting none at all.

  6. Williamson testimony reveals tension at the heart of governmentpublished at 14:48 BST 14 October

    Branwen Jeffreys
    Education editor, at the inquiry

    Tensions at the heart of government during the pandemic have emerged at the Covid-19 inquiry.

    Gavin Williamson has described the decision to open, then close, primary schools on 4 January 2021 as “panicked”.

    The inquiry heard about plans put in place for secondary pupils to also be tested at the start of that spring term ahead of opening, which was then delayed.

    Pupils eventually had to wait until 8 March for a phased return for all year groups.

    It also has emerged that Downing Street appointed Kevan Collins as the education recovery tsar, without consulting the education secretary.

    An email from Williamson to Boris Johnson was read out in which he described - in expletive terms - his anger as a result of “an appointment you don’t have the proper courtesy to discuss with me”, and that he felt “screwed over again”.

    Boris Johnson and Gavin WilliamsonImage source, EPA
    Image caption,

    Boris Johnson and Gavin Williamson pictured next to each other in 2018

  7. Gasps as angry message from Williamson is read outpublished at 14:46 BST 14 October

    Nabiha Ahmed
    Reporting from the inquiry

    Gasps fill the press room as Dobbin reads out the angry message Gavin Williamson sent to the then prime minister.

    Those around me immediately take out their phones to snap a picture of the message displayed on a screen in front of us.

  8. Strongly worded message shows Williamson's frustration with Boris Johnsonpublished at 14:45 BST 14 October

    We're now seeing a message Williamson sent to then Prime Minister Boris Johnson in February 2021.

    The strongly worded message shows Williamson's frustration with how things were being handled by the government at the time.

    Williamson’s message, which begins with “PM, I always like to be polite in our conversations but I must confess to feeling a little hacked off”, is followed by a series of swear words.

    It ends by saying the last time he was treated that badly by a sitting prime minister was on 1 May 2019 - “and that didn’t work out well”.

    He was referring to his time as secretary of defence under Theresa May, when he was sacked after an inquiry into a leak from a top-level National Security Council meeting.

  9. Williamson says school closure in 2021 was 'a panicked decision'published at 14:26 BST 14 October

    As the inquiry resumes, we’re hearing that fomer Education Secretary Gavin Williamson called the decision to close schools again in January 2021 “a panicked decision” and one that “did not sufficient take children’s interest or wellbeing into account”.

    “That’s a grave allegation to make,” says Counsel Clair Dobbin.

    Referring to a comment made by his colleague Michael Gove - who was Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster at the time - Williamson replies, “when you hear phrases like closing schools is like smashing a Ming vase on the floor to get people’s attention - it shows a lack of seriousness of actually not putting children first”.

    Asked if then Prime Minister Boris Johnson showed a “lack of seriousness”, Williamson says the prime minister ultimately has to choose what to prioritise.

    “I think he chose the NHS over children.”

    “I felt that the consequences for children weren’t properly taken into account,” he adds.

  10. Inquiry told of a sense of chaos in education during the pandemicpublished at 14:16 BST 14 October

    Branwen Jeffreys
    Education editor, at the inquiry

    What has emerged this morning at the Covid-19 inquiry is a sense of chaotic decision-making around the lives of children and young people.

    Gavin Williamson, the education secretary at the time, was asked if the complete lack of a plan for school closures was a “dereliction of duty”.

    He’s suggested last-minute decisions were often made by the then-Prime Minister Boris Johnson, and attacked the main education union.

    In response the National Education Union said: “Throughout, Williamson was the bringer of chaos. It disgusts the profession that for this he was rewarded with a knighthood.”

    It’s also become clear the government was warned months ahead of the exam results fiasco of August 2020 that some students would get unfair results.

    Later, Boris Johnson would blame it on a “mutant algorithm”, before scrapping the first set of grades for teacher assessed results.

  11. How were students assessed during Covid?published at 14:11 BST 14 October

    Earlier, Gavin Williamson was asked about the way students were graded during the pandemic, when public exams were cancelled - and we said we'd bring you some more background on this.

    As promised, here's a refresher on what happened during 2020 and 2021.

    2020

    • All exams were cancelled, including GCSEs and A-Levels
    • At first, an algorithm is used to decide students' grades - it mainly looked at how students were ranked in order of ability, and the results their schools or colleges had got in previous years
    • After A-Level results day, there was an outcry over the algorithm, which led Williamson to issue an apology, and Ofqual to switch to grades assessed by schools

    2021

    • GCSEs and A-Levels exams were cancelled again
    • Grades were decided by teachers, based on a mix of mock exams, coursework and essays
    Students hold placards reading messages such as "My grades not my postcode"Image source, Reuters
    Image caption,

    A-level students held protests across the UK over grades they said were unfairly awarded in 2020

  12. Inquiry resumespublished at 13:50 BST 14 October

    The Covid Inquiry has just returned from its lunchtime recess.

    We've been hearing today from former Education Secretary Gavin Williamson, who led the department during the Covid pandemic. He's now answering more questions from Counsel Clair Dobbin.

    We'll be bringing you all the key lines here, and a reminder that you can watch live at the top of this page.

  13. 'My children lost their granddad to Covid - it was really hard for them'published at 13:47 BST 14 October

    Nabiha Ahmed
    Reporting from the inquiry

    I've been speaking to Sioux Vosper, a campaigner for Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice, who says she has been attending almost every hearing of the Covid inquiry.

    A mother of four young people, she says this module of the hearing is hard to hear.

    "My children lost their granddad to Covid. It was really hard for them," she tells me outside the inquiry building.

    Sioux tells me one of her children still has "severe mental health issues" because of the loss they faced.

    Her children also have special education needs, she says, and found it difficult to adjust to schools closing.

    Students were undertaking what would usually be practical lab lessons from their room - while also having missed out on this experience in school practical lessons.

    "All these decisions were made so late, and young people's lives were decided in the middle of the night," she says.

  14. Williamson admits school results model was 'not the right approach'published at 13:30 BST 14 October

    Vanessa Clarke
    Education reporter, reporting at the inquiry

    In August 2020, when A-level results were released, there was huge anger and disappointment from students, teachers and parents.

    Hundreds of thousands of students had their results downgraded.

    Results were calculated by teacher-assessed grades and an algorithm based on things like historical school performance to prevent grade inflation.

    Gavin Williamson did apologise at the time and there was a huge U-turn.

    Again, today he said the model used was “not the right approach”, admitting he was aware well before results day that it would be unfair to many students.

    But Williamson put much of the blame on Ofqual - the exams regulator - saying if he had pushed them to just go on teacher-assessed grades, the Ofqual board would have all resigned.

    Ofqual have not yet appeared at the inquiry.

  15. Hearing breaks for lunchpublished at 13:15 BST 14 October

    The Covid inquiry is now taking a break for lunch.

    The afternoon session is scheduled to resume from 13:45 BST - you will be able to watch live from then at the top of this page.

  16. Former PM Boris Johnson gave parents 'false hope' over schools reopening - Williamsonpublished at 13:12 BST 14 October

    Gavin Williamson in a black suit and green tie sits at a desk in a room with a microphone in front of himImage source, UK Covid-19 Inquiry

    Counsel Clair Dobbin next turns to Gavin Williamson's previous criticism of Boris Johnson - who was prime minister at the time - in his statement to the inquiry.

    We hear that Williamson was informed on the 9 May 2020 that Johnson was planning to announce a phased reopening of schools the next day.

    In his statement to the inquiry, Williamson called this "a promise he wouldn't be able to keep" and said "the prime minister understood that I didn't agree with his announcement because it was destined to fail".

    Dobbin asks Williamson what, specifically, he disagreed with.

    Williamson explains that under the social distancing rules in force at the time, classes could only have a maximum of 15 people in them. Schools didn't have double the amount of classrooms or teachers to do this, when classes had previously had 30 people in them.

    It was "absolutely clear" the government wasn't going to relax these rules, he says, so "there was no physical way we could do it [reopen schools] without asking every school to basically break the law".

    He accuses Johnson of "giving people a false sense of hope" with the announcement.

    Boris Johnson "would sometimes veer between different positions", Williamson says.

    "We did get things wrong," he adds, before adding: "I'm sure it will have caused him frustrations as it caused all of ourselves frustrations when we didn't get things right".

  17. Williamson admits some students 'wouldn't get the grades they would deserve'published at 13:03 BST 14 October

    Former Education Secretary Gavin Williamson is now being asked about the model used to grade students during the pandemic.

    "We always understood that there were some students who wouldn't get the grades they would deserve, and that's why an appeals system... needed to be put in place," Williamson says.

    "There's no perfect form of assessment," he adds.

    Williamson is pressed further on this, with Clair Dobbin asking whether the model used was favouring consistency of outcome, rather than recognising fairness to students who might exceed their school's average grades during public exams.

    To which, the former education secretary says "the model was quite clearly wrong".

    • For context, in 2021, GCSEs and A-levels cancelled in England because of the pandemic were replaced by grades decided by teachers - we’ll explain more about this soon
  18. School re-closure plans kept 'secret' from schoolspublished at 12:56 BST 14 October

    Gavin WilliamsonImage source, UK Covid-19 Inquiry

    The inquiry has moved to the government’s decision to re-open schools in September 2020.

    Referring to government Covid strategy papers, Counsel to the inquiry Clair Dobbin puts it to Gavin Williamson that his department’s “national fallback plan” for blended learning - where students learn both online and face-to-face - in the event of another national lockdown, was “kept a secret” from schools.

    One government paper states: “schools should not be told of a fallback plan as it would allow them to have an excuse not to open in September.”

    Williamson says the government is keeping the focus on opening schools, and that if it looks like they are planning for another closure, it “could end up becoming the default scenario”.

    Dobbin then asks if it’s really the case that a government can’t be open about its plans.

    Becoming visibly emotional, Williamson says “I will accept fault on this” but insists it was vital to provide “certainty in order to get children back to school”.

  19. Government paper on school closures was drafted overnight, inquiry hearspublished at 12:07 BST 14 October

    At the inquiry, Gavin Williamson confirms the government paper on school closures was commissioned and drafted overnight.

    Noting that stakeholders hadn't been consulted about school closures before this point, Counsel to the inquiry Clair Dobbin asks if "the bottom line is this... there was no plan to implement the closure of schools in England".

    Williamson starts talking about the need "to give people the time to stand things up" but is cut off by Dobbin.

    "You haven't answered my question, and it's one of the most important questions that Module eight will answer," she says.

    She asks again whether "there was no plan... no document... nothing concrete in existence was there" when the prime minister announced schools were to close on 18 March 2020.

    Williamson responds that "there was a whole set body of work that had already been started".

    "There was people within the department who had started to do that thinking," he says.

    An image taken from inside a living room shows a TV screen on which former Prime Minister Boris Johnson is addressing the nation live from Downing Street during the Covid pandemic.Image source, Getty Images
    Image caption,

    Boris Johnson announced schools were closing in March 2020

  20. Hearing resumespublished at 11:42 BST 14 October

    Gavin Williamson at the inquiryImage source, UK Covid-19 Inquiry

    We're now hearing from Gavin Williamson again after a short break.

    Stay with us for all the key lines - and remember, you can tap Watch live at the top of the page to follow along.