Summary

  • John Swinney is quizzed by opposition party leaders during First Minister's Questions

  • Douglas Ross asks Swinney if he agrees with criticism of Police Scotland's chief constable by the family or murder victim Alistair Wilson

  • This is Ross's final FMQs as leader of the Scottish Conservative Party leader

  • Scottish Labour's Anas Sarwar challenges Swinney on the government's record on homelessness

  • The Scottish Greens' co-leader Lorna Slater questions whether scrapping the peak time rail fares pilot sends out the right message

  1. FMQs: The headlinespublished at 13:15 British Summer Time 26 September

    With that attempt at a point of order, Douglas Ross brings to an end his final FMQs as Scottish Tory leader.

    If you've just joined us, here are the key lines that emerged in this week's session.

    • The Scottish Tory leader raised the case of murdered banker Alistair Wilson and asked if John Swinney had spoken to the family about they consider "insulting and callous" behaviour from Police Scotland Chief Constable Jo Farrell
    • The first minister confirmed he had not spoken to the Wilson family. He went on to pledge his government will consider a Tory amendment to the forthcoming policing bill which would allow serving officers to face criminal charges
    • Swinney argued crime in Scotland was at a record low, a fact Douglas Ross tried to dispute in an attempted point of order at the end of FMQs
    • Anas Sarwar highlighted the "highest number of homelessness applications in a decade" and he added that "10,000 children" are left homeless on Swinney's watch
    • The first minister defended his government's record, arguing that between 2007 and 2024 it built an average of over 7,000 affordable homes
    • It's Climate Week and Scottish Greens co-leader Lorna Slater called on the FM to back a tax on private jets to fund a continued scrapping of peak-time rail fares
    • The FM welcomed this "very interesting and welcome suggestion"

    That ends our live coverage of FMQs this week. Paul McLaren was the editor today. The writers were Craig Hutchison and Megan Bonnar.

  2. Analysis

    The Douglas Ross farewell could bring a final headache for Swinneypublished at 13:04 British Summer Time 26 September

    Philip Sim
    BBC Scotland political correspondent

    Oh.

    In the end Douglas Ross didn’t bow out of FMQs on a note of consensus after all – he closed the session by raising a point of order accusing John Swinney of misleading parliament.

    The first minister had claimed crime was currently at a 40-year low, but Mr Ross pointed out that this year’s statistics show a 4% increase.

    Mr Swinney didn’t have a chance to respond in the immediacy, with the presiding officer noting that there are various routes for members to challenge the accuracy of contributions in the chamber.

    But if the record does need to be corrected, it may be that the outgoing Tory leader has left one final headache hanging over for the first minister.

  3. Ross attempts a point of order on FM's response to crime figurespublished at 13:01 British Summer Time 26 September

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    Douglas Ross isn't quite finished with FMQs yet....

    He gets to his feet again to make a point of order saying in the first minister's response earlier he said "levels of crime in Scotland are currently at 40-year lows".

    The Scottish Tory leader adds the Scottish government's own statistics show crime from 2022 to 2023 to 2023/24 had risen by 4%.

    Presiding Officer Alison Johnstone intervenes, saying points of order refer to whether the proper procedures have been followed and are not to be used to carry on the debate.

    Ross asks if the first minister has deliberately or inadvertently misled parliament.

    Alison Johnstone says: "The content of members' contributions is a matter for members.

    "Members will be aware of the mechanism that exists to address any inaccuracies."

  4. Analysis

    Swinney lays it on thick for his 'Green friends'published at 12:55 British Summer Time 26 September

    Philip Sim
    BBC Scotland political correspondent

    John Swinney made very little secret of his desire to do a budget deal with the Scottish Greens.

    He laid it on so thick that it raised chuckles around the chamber – talking about “my friends in the Green party”, who had made a “very interesting and welcome suggestion” around tax.

    Lorna Slater had raised the prospect of a tax on private jets – something Mr Swinney is “very much in the spirit of doing” – as well as finally completing the devolution of air passenger duty.

    Make no mistake that the Greens are still quite upset with the SNP, having been kicked out of government before several of their favourite policies were shredded by budget cuts.

    But Mr Swinney is clearly very keen to make up with them, particularly as his minority administration drifts towards a tricky budget setting season.

  5. Labour MSP asks about 'sharp rise' in youth violencepublished at 12:53 British Summer Time 26 September

    Pauline McNeill asks the first minister what is being done about the rising number of 11 to 14-year-olds being involved in violent crime.

    Police Scotland figures showed nearly 14,000 violent crimes involved young people last year.

    The Scottish Labour MSP says “worryingly, there is a sharp rise”, in crimes involving knives, blunt objects and bottles. She asks if cuts to youth services could be to blame.

    The FM says any increase is concerning and highlights £4m of investment by the government in campaigns such as “no knives, better lives” and “quit fighting for likes” which are aimed at preventing young people getting involved in crime.

  6. Should domestic abuse experts be embedded in 999 control rooms?published at 12:50 British Summer Time 26 September

    Tory MSP Pam Gosal calls for domestic abuse experts to be embedded in 999 control rooms.

    The first minister points out Police Scotland's Contact Assessment Model already ensures people receive the support they need.

    Swinney pledges to see how the pilots in England and Wales progress.

    The Tory MSP explains Police Scotland respond to a domestic abuse call every nine minutes.

    Gosal says she has also put forward United Against Violence proposals to expand training of frontline workers, so they can spot domestic abuse.

    "I'm very interested in the proposals," responds the first minister.

    "I'm open to discussing the issues that Pam Gosal puts to me today."

  7. Fairer energy bills 'vital' says SNP MSPpublished at 12:47 British Summer Time 26 September

    Now to the backbenches, and SNP MSP Emma Roddick asks about a possible “social tariff” to reduce energy bills for low-income households.

    She says it is a fairer pricing model and is “vital” due to issues such as the winter fuel allowance being cut. Roddick adds that her constituents in the Highlands and Islands will be hit hard due to colder winters.

    Swinney says the government is establishing a working group to consider the policy. He adds that he has raised these issues with the UK government.

  8. Analysis

    Should the housing minister be watching his back?published at 12:43 British Summer Time 26 September

    Philip Sim
    BBC Scotland political correspondent

    Anas Sarwar chose to make a rare foray away from the health portfolio for his questions this week.

    And he seems to be mounting a new campaign – for the housing minister Paul McLennan to be sacked.

    He cited the housing emergency and “out of touch” comments about homelessness, but ultimately it was part of Labour’s wider charge, that the SNP has not delivered in government.

    John Swinney hit back by accusing Mr Sarwar of playing the man instead of the ball.

    He also had a list of figures to hit back, saying the SNP has been more successful in building affordable homes during a time of tight budgets than the previous Labour administration had during a time of plenty.

    It will be interesting to see if Mr Sarwar persists with his pursuit of Mr McLennan’s scalp – these campaigns do give opposition parties something to focus in on, but they can also fall rather flat if the government digs in and they come to nothing.

    If he wants to force the issue he will need the support of other opposition parties. They have united to defeat the government a few times in recent weeks – could Mr Sarwar look to force the issue over the housing minister next?

  9. FM welcomes suggestion to tax of private jetspublished at 12:42 British Summer Time 26 September

    Lorna Slater goes on to say a tax on private jets could provide the funds to continue the rail fares pilot.

    "Will the first minister work with the UK government to urgently introduce this tax so that commuters can once again have fair prices on our trains," she asks.

    The FM says that is a "very interesting and welcome" suggestion.

  10. Background: Peak-time fare scheme scrapped over passenger numberspublished at 12:40 British Summer Time 26 September

    The transport secretary said the scheme had "limited success".Image source, PA
    Image caption,

    The transport secretary said the scheme had "limited success".

    A pilot scheme scrapping peak-time ScotRail fares will end in September following “limited success”.

    Transport Scotland said the project, which saw ticket prices subsidised by the Scottish government and standardised across the day, “did not achieve its aims” of persuading more people to swap car journeys for rail travel.

    Analysis by the body recommended ending the scheme due to financial pressures, while also increasing fares on popular peak-time routes including those between Edinburgh and Glasgow.

    Critics have described the decision to terminate the scheme from 27 September as a “hammer blow” for commuters and the climate.

    Read more here.

  11. FM says a lack of resources forced end of rail fares pilotpublished at 12:40 British Summer Time 26 September

    John Swinney says the pilot was due to run for a six-month period and it was extended for a further six months.

    The first minister insists the pilot showed not enough passengers had returned the railways and it would have required £40m to proceed with it.

  12. Is ending the pilot to abolish peak rail fares the right message?published at 12:38 British Summer Time 26 September

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    Scottish Greens co-leader Lorna Slater turns to next week's ending of the Scottish government's pilot to abolish peak rail fares.

    "Is this the right message for the Scottish government to be sending in Climate Week," she asks.

  13. 10,000 children left homeless on this government's watch, says Sarwarpublished at 12:35 British Summer Time 26 September

    The Scottish Labour leader goes on to say the government is “oblivious to the struggles” faced by thousands of Scots.

    Sarwar says the number of houses built under the SNP is down and record levels of children are in temporary accommodation.

    He asks if the FM will acknowledge the “10,000 children left homeless on this government watch”, adding the government is "more focused on what they can't do, rather than what they can do".

    Swinney says that between 2007 and 2024 the government has built an average of over 7,000 affordable homes each year which he says is more than the amount delivered by the previous Scottish Labour government.

  14. Is there a housing emergency? - Sarwarpublished at 12:33 British Summer Time 26 September

    Anas Sarwar

    Anas Sarwar is up next and starts his first question by asking if Scotland has a housing emergency.

    He says last year Scotland had the highest number of homelessness applications “in a decade” despite the housing minister saying the government has a good track record on housing.

    “Every number is a human being in desperate need of help and support,” he says.

    The first minister says the government is “taking action to remedy” the housing crisis.

  15. Analysis

    A day for sober discussion rather than theatricspublished at 12:33 British Summer Time 26 September

    Philip Sim
    BBC Scotland political correspondent

    Having spent the last three years raising the hackles of the SNP benches and sparking noisy exchanges in the chamber, Douglas Ross signed off from FMQs on a completely different tack.

    His questions about the case of murdered banker Alistair Wilson were met with respectful silence in the Holyrood chamber.

    As John Swinney noted, this is an “incredibly sensitive case” – it was rightly a day for sober discussion and consensus rather than parliamentary theatrics.

    So Mr Ross’s suggestions to amend the police conduct and ethics bill were given a serious hearing too.

    His final question did dip back into some more partisan politics, but ultimately there weren’t many fireworks in his final exchange with the first minister.

  16. 'Police so stretched they are not able to investigate every crime'published at 12:30 British Summer Time 26 September

    Ross tells the chamber the Scottish government has been letting down police officers across Scotland and the communities they serve.

    He says officer numbers are at their lowest level for 17 years.

    "Police Scotland are so stretched they are not able to investigate every crime."

    He asks if the first minister agrees with his deputy Kate Forbes that "policing is stretched to breaking point".

    The first minister hits back saying the level of crime is at a 40-year low.

    Swinney also argues police numbers are strengthening.

  17. Ministers will look carefully at Tory amendment - Swineypublished at 12:24 British Summer Time 26 September

    The first minister replies he has a great deal of sympathy with Douglas Ross's point and he says his ministers will look carefully at the Tory amendment.

    Swinney explains the police bill is coming to the committee at Stage 2 and he wants to ensure the system is "effective, transparent and challenging".

  18. 'It's clear that the current system is not fit for purpose'published at 12:22 British Summer Time 26 September

    Douglas Ross

    The Scottish Tory leader turns to the role of the Police Investigation and Review Commissioner in dealing with complaints.

    "As the experience of the Wilson family shows, it's clear that the current system is not fit for purpose."

    The Scottish Conservatives have tabled an amendment to the forthcoming Police Bill that would allow serving officers to face criminal charges if they abuse their position.

    Ross asks, will the FM back this amendment?

  19. Swinney says he has not spoken with the Wilson familypublished at 12:16 British Summer Time 26 September

    John Swinney says the fact Alistair Wilson's killer has not been brought to justice "deeply concerns" him.

    The first minister says Police Scotland is focused on the investigation and he adds he has not spoken to the family.

  20. Has the FM spoken with the Wilson family about their concerns?published at 12:14 British Summer Time 26 September

    Douglas Ross says the response from Police Scotland falls below the standard expected, particularly from the chief constable.

    The Scottish Tory leader reiterates the description of Jo Farrell as "insulting and callous".

    He asks if the first minister has spoken with the Wilson family about their concerns.