Summary

  1. The key lines from this week's showpublished at 10:20 British Summer Time 6 April

    The show is over for another week, which means it's almost time for us to bid you farewell.

    But before we go, we'll leave you with a quick digest of the key lines:

    • First to face Laura was the chief secretary to the Treasury, Darren Jones, who told her globalisation had "come to an end" in the face of Donald Trump's sweeping tariffs
    • He said the government was focused on negotiating a trade deal with the White House, but refused to be drawn on whether the UK might get out of the 10% levy on its exports
    • Next came Tory leader Kemi Badenoch, who said "there is a place" for tariffs - but warned that retaliatory measures would only make life more expensive for UK consumers
    • We heard lots of insightful commentary from the panel on several of the day's top stories, too
    • A strongly-worded intervention came from Labour's Emily Thornberry - chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee - who said Israel had been "badly advised" after denying entry to two of her party colleagues
    • A moving and powerful interview with Esther Ghey - the mother of the killed teenager Brianna Ghey - concluded the show. She criticised the Labour government over its handling of online safety in dealing with the Trump administration

    Thank you for sticking with us and goodbye - at least until next Sunday.

  2. Watch: Esther Ghey on her friendship with the mother of her daughter's killerpublished at 10:06 British Summer Time 6 April

    Earlier, Esther Ghey spoke to Laura Kuenssberg about her friendship with the mother of the teenage girl who murdered her daughter, Brianna, in 2023.

    "She is just a normal mother," Ghey says. "She had no idea what her child was accessing [online]."

    "We're both navigating something that's extremely difficult," she adds.

  3. That's a wrap on this week's guests - but stick with uspublished at 10:01 British Summer Time 6 April

    Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg has now wrapped up, but stay with us – we’ll have a round-up of the key points from today’s guests shortly.

    You can also follow our live coverage of the global reaction to Trump’s tariff here.

  4. Brianna Ghey's mother criticises government over online safetypublished at 09:51 British Summer Time 6 April

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    Esther Ghey (woman with medium length blond hair) wearing a black blouse sitting down with her back to a brown wall
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    Esther Ghey's daughter Brianna was murdered in 2023

    Campaigner Esther Ghey has told the BBC she is "frustrated" at the government's approach to online safety, warning that "young people are losing their lives".

    Ghey's daughter Brianna, 16, was murdered in February 2023 by two 15-year-olds, one of whom had been watching violent content online. Brianna herself had viewed material that encouraged self-harm.

    Her comments came amid reports that the Online Safety Bill - part of which came into force in March - could be watered down in a bid to secure favourable trade terms with US President Donald Trump, a suggestion Ghey described as "shocking".

    A government spokesperson said ministers were "committed to keeping young people safe online".

  5. Israel 'badly advised' over denying Labour MPs entry, says Thornberrypublished at 09:51 British Summer Time 6 April

    Kuenssberg now turns to the panel.

    Labour MP Emily Thornberry says Israel has been "badly advised" after denying entry to two of her party colleagues who were detained on arrival.

    She says Abtisam Mohamed and Yuan Yang are highly respected parliamentarians, and that Israel "really needs to start making friends as opposed to alienating people in this way".

    Thornberry says she can't believe Kemi Badenoch would "take on the face of it what it is that the Israelis say".

    She adds that "if Israel has something to hide then that would be a terrible thing".

  6. Israel can control its borders, says Badenoch on Labour MPs denied entrypublished at 09:42 British Summer Time 6 April

    For her final question, Kuenssberg brings up the two Labour MPs, Abtisam Mohamed and Yuan Yang, who were denied entry to Israel when they arrived.

    The UK government has said it was unacceptable. What is Badenoch's view?

    Badenoch did not join Foreign Minister David Lammy in condemning Israel's decision.

    "Countries should be able to control their borders," she says.

  7. No way Tories can turn around 'most historic defeat' in five months - leaderpublished at 09:40 British Summer Time 6 April

    Sticking with the upcoming local elections, Laura asks how concerned Kemi Badenoch is that Reform might do better than the Conservatives.

    She says her party won't focus on "protest parties" and will concentrate on what it can deliver locally.

    If the Tories don't perform in May, how confident are you the party will keep you in charge, Laura asks.

    Badenoch doesn't answer directly, instead saying: "There's no way we're going to turn around our most historic defeat in five months."

  8. 'We're going to lose seats,' says Badenoch on local council electionspublished at 09:38 British Summer Time 6 April

    With local council elections coming up in England, Badenoch is asked how many seats are still going to be Conservative.

    "I'm not going to play guess the number... but these are going to be very challenging local election results," Badenoch says.

    "We are going to lose seats... but this local election is not an opinion poll it's about who you want to run your local services."

  9. US 'one of our strongest allies' no matter who's in power - Tory leaderpublished at 09:37 British Summer Time 6 April

    Kuenssberg asks Badenoch if the US is a reliable partner under Trump.

    All sorts of things are happening, Badenoch says.

    We need to make sure what we're doing is in our national interest, she adds.

    The US is "one of our strongest allies" no matter who is in power, she says, adding that she will not speculate on whether they are or are not reliable.

  10. Badenoch says retaliatory tariffs only make life more expensivepublished at 09:35 British Summer Time 6 April

    Kuenssberg says it's well known the US won't agree to a trade deal with any country without getting its own concessions, and asks what would Badenoch be prepared to give up.

    Badenoch says: "We look at the total effect and how it is beneficial to an economy."

    She adds that retaliatory tariffs would only make life more expensive for British consumers.

  11. On tariff deal, Labour should carry on where the Tories left off - Badenochpublished at 09:33 British Summer Time 6 April

    In terms of tariffs, what sort of deal with the US would Badenoch like to see?

    She says the Tories got "very far" in talks with Donald Trump when he was last in the White House, but Joe Biden scrapped the deal.

    "We should pick up where we left off," she says.

    The worst outcome, she adds, would be making concessions.

  12. Badenoch says she doesn't agree that globalisation is overpublished at 09:30 British Summer Time 6 April

    Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg

    Up next is Tory leader Kemi Badenoch.

    Laura asks if she agrees with Darren Jones that globalisation is over.

    "No," she says, adding that the UK still has "great" trading relationships with other countries.

    She says she wants Keir Starmer to convene a meeting with some of these partners.

  13. Jones says he's 'shocked' by Dan Norris's arrestpublished at 09:28 British Summer Time 6 April

    Jones is also asked about suspended MP Dan Norris, who has been arrested on suspicion of rape, child sex offences, child abduction and misconduct in public office.

    He says he was "as shocked as everyone else" when he found out about the charges.

    As soon as the Labour Party was informed by police, the whip was suspended.

    He adds that he won't be giving a running commentary on the case.

    Jones is also asked about Labour MPs Abtisam Mohamed and Yuan Yang, who were denied entry to Israel after being detained on arrival.

    He says the foreign secretary has made it clear that the way the two MPs were treated was unacceptable.

  14. Online Safety Act not negotiable, the treasury minister sayspublished at 09:27 British Summer Time 6 April

    Back to trade, Kuenssberg asks if the government is planning to weaken protections in the Online Safety Act to secure a trade deal with Trump.

    Jones says the "basic protections" in the Online Safety Act are "not up for negotiation".

    If something is illegal offline, it must be illegal online, he says.

    Kuenssberg presses again: is the Act part of the negotiations or not?

    Jones repeats that the protections in the Act are not negotiable.

    He says social media platforms must be built to protect children.

    "We won't be walking away from that," he says.

    And that's where the interview with Darren Jones wraps up.

    • For context, talks on US-UK tariff deals included suggestions about changing online safety rules, but government sources have said this is "not happening"
  15. When businesses might get a break? - head of British Chambers of Commercepublished at 09:25 British Summer Time 6 April

    Laura notes that the economic situation in the UK is already very tough – especially with businesses worried about the rise in National Insurance contributions for employers.

    She then hands over to panel member and head of the British Chambers of Commerce, Shevaun Haviland, who asks when businesses might catch a break.

    Jones says the government's business agenda is "broad", with plenty of ambition.

    On the National Insurance hikes, he says the scheme was set up to "get a grip" on public spending and that the investment is paying off "overall".

  16. 'We're hoping to do a deal,' says Jonespublished at 09:23 British Summer Time 6 April

    Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg

    Jones is asked about other countries responding to Trump's tariffs – including China and Canada, who've retaliated with their own.

    He says that’s not the right approach straight away.

    Instead, the UK wants to keep talking to the US in what he calls a “calm way”.

    Kuenssberg says the UK isn’t in a strong trading position with the US.

    She recalls how Keir Starmer met Trump at the White House in February, when Trump suggested a deal on tariffs might be possible – but that hasn’t happened.

    “We’re hoping to do a deal,” says Jones, adding that “we have a better outcome than other comparable countries as a consequence of our diplomacy”.

  17. UK PM to reveal more on possible Spending Review change this week - Jonespublished at 09:21 British Summer Time 6 April

    Kuenssberg says the BBC has reported that parts of the government's Spending Review could change because of Trump's tariffs. Some projects might be brought forward. Is that happening? Or is the government in a "scrabbling mode"?

    "We're not in a scrabbling mode," says Jones.

    He adds that the prime minister will reveal more detail on this next week.

    Pressed several times on whether anything will be brought forward, Jones says we'll have to wait for the prime minister to speak this week.

  18. Jones admits we should brace for a weaker global economypublished at 09:19 British Summer Time 6 April

    Laura keeps pressing on tariffs.

    She says Chancellor Rachel Reeves admits we're going to be hit by them.

    Should we brace for an even weaker economy this year as a result, she asks.

    "On the global economy, yes," Jones concedes, but says the UK government is "trying to get ahead of these challenges".

    He adds it's ministers' job to "make our economy stronger".

  19. Jones won't say if UK can scrap US tariffspublished at 09:17 British Summer Time 6 April

    Kuenssberg presses Jones again on whether he thinks the UK can scrap tariffs, or reduce them, as part of a deal with the US, saying "it's a yes or no question".

    Jones says the current negotiations are about a trade agreement with the Americans and other trading partners around the world.

  20. 'Do you think you can reduce tariffs?' - Kuenssbergpublished at 09:16 British Summer Time 6 April

    Kuenssberg brings up the trade deal the UK is trying to strike with the US.

    "I know you're going to be tight-lipped about the detail," she says to Jones, "but do you think you can at least reduce tariffs?"

    Jones says the government believes a deal can be reached and talks are ongoing.

    He adds they're also in discussions with the EU and Gulf states.

    But has the phone from the US stopped ringing since Trump's announcement, Kuenssberg asks.

    Jones says he doesn't think the tariffs are "good for anyone" and the UK is working to identify "points of friction" to help secure a deal.