'Don't start bombing before you start thinking' - Labour on defencepublished at 07:55 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2019
Today Programme
BBC Radio 4
With Conservative Jeremy Hunt having criticised the Labour leader over his past opposition to Nato, Barry Gardiner now defends Jeremy Corbyn's record.
He's asked about Mr Corbyn having said as recently as 2014 that Nato was created to promote the Cold War with the Soviet Union.
Mr Gardiner says "we are committed to Nato" and he refuses to "personalise" the discussion when the party policy is clear.
"The way you defend the country is to make sure you don’t go on foreign wars and you don’t start bombing before you start thinking," he says.
He says Mr Corbyn was "on the right side of history" over conflicts such as Iraq and Libya, which he opposed.
Asked why it is Nato's responsibility to de-escalate in the face of aggression from countries such as Russia, he says: "If you want to create the conditions of peace you have to understand what is driving the other side and you have to respond appropriately."
Mr Gardiner says Labour is offering "real defence" not "aggressive militarism".