Summary

  • Our correspondents join ambulance crews across the UK on 30 November 2016

  • Services are experiencing unprecedented pressure, with only one trust meeting targets

  • About 30,000 999 calls are made to ambulance control rooms every day

  • Services have to prioritise the most critical cases to cope

  • Ambulances are more stretched than ever as winter looms

  1. Eight things we have learnt todaypublished at 17:36 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    That's all from us for now. Before we go, here are eight things we've learnt from our ambulance services across the country: 

    • The number of 999 calls has trebled in the past decade – London recorded its highest number of calls in history in November
    • But the volume isn’t the only pressure facing ambulance services across the country
    • Calls from people who don’t need a paramedic are still common – calls today included needing a glass of water, a cold and a cat bite
    • There are not enough beds – Norfolk and Norwich University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust went on "black alert" today as they needed another 70 beds to cope with patient numbers
    • Handover times need to be quicker – Betty Smith in Yorkshire said when she was taken to hospital there were 14 ambulances lined up ahead of her
    • However, people still have a lot of praise for paramedics who work hard to look after the patients – Emma Sealey called them "angels in green"
    • They face abuse - like John, who has had a knife pulled on him twice, but he still loves the job, saying "it’s about making a difference"
    • If you call 999, you will always be taken seriously and an ambulance will come in an emergency – but think whether you can use another service, 111, your GP, a walk-in centre or pharmacist, to relieve some of the pressure, or, even better, learn first aid

    Thanks for joining us. Goodnight. 

  2. A final word from Nick Triggle on our ambulance systempublished at 17:25 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    Nick Triggle
    Health Correspondent

    Today the BBC has attempted to shine a spotlight on the ambulance system. 

    We’ve heard about the thousands of calls they deal with - some real emergencies and, sadly, some that simply are a waste of time. 

    But our coverage has not just been about what is happening today. We’ve also been looking at what will be happening tomorrow. 

    The system is changing. More patients are being treated at the scene. The numbers classed as life-threatening are also being redefined to help ensure those who most need a fast response get it.

    How well these initiatives and others work will determine what sort of 999 service we have in the future.  

  3. 'Athens ambulances respond after 20 minutes at best - so consider yourselves lucky'published at 17:15 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    A selection of overseas reaction on Facebook

    Tricia Braid, external tells us:

    I appreciate the look into your emergency services. We share this difficulty in rural areas of the U.S., as our emergency first responders are typically volunteers.  

    Trish Reibert, external comments:

    I wonder if they run into the same problems our EMT/paramedics have spending precious time and resources running on calls for people looking for free rides to the doctors office and other non-emergency calls. It's a huge problem in the U.S.  

    Anna Lymperatou, external posts:

    In Athens, Greece the ambulances respond after 20-40 minutes at the very best and that's because there are so few of them. So consider yourselves lucky   

    Carole Seney, external writes:

    Ambulance Squads here in the US are mostly crewed by volunteers who have their EMT certificates. They raise funds by having fundraisers like dinners (local businesses donate the food needed).  

    George Stillitano, external says:

    Are the firemen or police officers trained as first responders in England? that's what we do in some places in Canada  

  4. Map of Northern Ireland ambulance hot spotspublished at 17:10 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    Northern Ireland map
    Image caption,

    Red marks the spot - where Northern Ireland's ambulances are being sent. The photo shows a screen in the Northern Ireland control room.

  5. Call to North East Ambulance Service over 'cat bite'published at 16:58 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    Ambulances are being diverted from hospitals in the North East to deal with reports of cat bites and a toenail falling off.

    Our reporter Sharon Barbour reports from a local ambulance control centre. 

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  6. 'Paramedic stayed until the undertakers arrived a few hours later'published at 16:55 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    A selection of your posts on Facebook

    Cassie Burford, external says:

    Can't say I'm surprised what with all the cuts to services. Where I work we had to call an ambulance out and we were told it would be a bit of a wait as it was coming from Weston-Super-Mare which is just over an hour away  

    Tony Earp, external tells us:

    After spending time with these guys, it is clear reduced budgets are having an adverse impact as well as inappropriate calls. Until people start taking responsibility for their own health and stop rushing to A&E at the slightest sign of illness, or calling emergency services at a whim, this is notwithstanding other issues such as taking responsibility for their diet and alcohol intake, the NHS will collapse.

    Gill Munn, external writes:

    An ambulance was called to my mom who had already passed away and there was nothing they could do for her but the fast response paramedic still stayed at the property until the undertakers arrived which was a few hours later. I feel that this was wrong as my mom had already gone and while he was at the house, he could of been on an emergency call to somebody who could be helped and their life saved. I'm sorry if people find my comment wrong but I don't think that helps in emergency situations where paramedics are tied up waiting when they could be helping not one, but several people.  

    Erica Law, external comments:

    My friend waited over 20 mins for a ambulance with a baby having an allergic reaction and at points was unconscious ... They really need to totally redesign the ambulance and have more of them on the streets  

  7. 'All part of a day's work' for paramedicspublished at 16:50 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    Catherine Smyth
    BBC News Northern Ireland

    Nine hours into a 12-hour shift in the NI Ambulance control room and staff are as busy as ever. 

    Matters shift up a gear as news comes in that four ambulances and one rapid response vehicle are being sent to a rural and isolated part of the country to deal with a road traffic accident involving five patients. 

    Since 7.30am the control room has dealt with 256 calls - 62 of which are the highest priority - category A.

    Amidst all this, the staff stay calm as they talk people through moments of crisis  - things like dealing with a very overweight man who needs specialist help, people with breathing difficulties and people who've fallen.

    Snatches of conversation tell their own stories:"Just make sure his head is tilted back, I know it is hard with a little one"

    "Tell me when the crew is with you" 

    "Keep your hand on her forehead and stay with me" 

    It all seems difficult. And challenging. But the staff here are taking it as part of their day's work.

    Northern Ireland control room
  8. East Midlands takes 1,290 calls so farpublished at 16:42 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    Update just in from East Midlands Ambulance Service. They have now taken 1,290 calls from 999 today, and 183 GP urgent transfers.

    Of the calls, 200 were dealt with over the phone and 45% were treated away from hospital. 

    Here is a map of all the calls the service  received so far today. 

    EMAS mapImage source, EMAS
  9. 'The problem is the public - they need educating'published at 16:37 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    You continue to send us your comments

    Michael comments:

    Isn’t it about time the nuisance calls were dealt with?  The calls diverted to the police and fine the idiots wasting time. I’ve just read about lost keys, needing taxis and lost bank cards. These fools should be shamed in the national and local press!

    Sharon Harrison, Stockport tells us:

    My husband had a brain haemorrhage on a Saturday night at 1am. There was a delay on the ambulance that night, I was told, when I called 999. The paramedic however arrived swiftly, but was limited in treatment he could offer. His quick thinking led to the ambulance being diverted. The ambulance arrived as quickly as resources would allow, but if my husband was having a cardiac arrest or a stroke, there would have been more serious consequences. The stretch on resources has made me fearful, to the point where, as a family, we will look at a family first aid course so that we could deliver CPR in an emergency and possibly look at purchasing a defibrillator.

    Adam writes:

    I have been on both sides of the fence: I have called an ambulance for a seriously ill patient and had to wait so long I've taken them to hospital myself. However, I previously worked frontline for the ambulance service for six years and this is entirely down to abuse of the 999 system. The problem is the public, they need educating.  

    Mark Arnold, Hampshire comments:

    My father who had cancer collapsed at home two weeks ago vomiting blood and was in great pain. Due to hold ups at the hospital with signing over patients we had to wait an hour for a paramedic to arrive and 1.5 hours for the ambulance to turn up. The ambulance station is about eight minutes up the road and the hospital about 10. If I could have I would have driven him myself but my father was too weak due to loss of blood and low blood pressure. He passed away in hospital two days later due to the same problems.

  10. Northern Ireland Ambulance Service 'close to breaking point'published at 16:32 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    Northern Ireland control room

    Our Northern Ireland health correspondent, Marie-Louise Connolly, said staff within the control room want something to be done because "the system is really close to breaking point".

    There are plans to use people differently, such as district nurses and diabetes teams, to triage as much as they can over the phone, she says.

    "It doesn't mean they would get any additional staff, but they would decide who needs those paramedics and perhaps use GP services in the country more."

  11. Live at 999 centre: Helping out neighbouring servicepublished at 16:27 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    Emily Ford
    BBC South

    When incidents in the Dorset area take South Central resources away call operators work quickly to find solutions.

    There is shouting across the control room while the officers work out which ambulances are available to send out to help the neighbouring South West service in Ringwood.

    Officers remain calm while finding a solution and have sent the crew out to the incident within seconds. 

  12. 'Drunk neighbour calls out ambulances 16 times a day'published at 16:26 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    More of your comments

    Debra says:

    Why are the ambulance service not charging people who abuse the service? We have a drunk neighbour who calls out ambulances up to 16 times a day. When they get there he wants them to pick him up off the floor because he has rolled off the sofa. He is abusive towards them so the police come, more wasted resources. 

    Martin tells us:

    I had a motorbike accident in February 2016. Broken kneecap, lying in middle of freezing road, 1 hour and 50 minutes wait for ambulance. I asked/ begged the police to take me to hospital in their car. They said I had to wait for paramedics. Absolutely disgusted with the wait.

    Simon, Kegworth,  near Derby says:

    October 3rd 2016: On the advice of my GP who suspected I might be having a heart attack, I called 999. The ambulance arrived about 20 minutes later; I was attended to by two extremely good paramedics and taken to hospital. During the 20 or so minutes it took to get booked in, I remarked that the queue of paramedics and ambulances was a waste of scarce resources.

    "That's nothing" replied one of the paramedics. "We're due a 45 minute break now which we'll take when we've booked you in. But, we're based at Mickleover so we have to drive there - which takes 40 minutes - and then have our break.  After that, our next call could be back here so - why can't we take our break here? It would save 40 minutes for us, the ambulance and the travel cost. Lunacy!"

    A hospital pharmacist writes:

    I keep wishing that you would follow a few of us in various hospitals to report what goes on, how underrepresented we are, how not respected by other professionals we are, and how much we influence patient care by preventing doctors and nurses mistakes.

    We don't have time to publish in journals as much as we should, or do anything to improve our situation as we usually work constantly trying to stop the boat from sinking and trying to keep ourselves from sinking, too tired and overworked.

  13. 999 call is 'that person's emergency'published at 16:15 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    Full time paramedic James has offered more advice after we shared his tweets. 

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  14. 'All children should be taught basic first aid at school'published at 16:10 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    A selection of your texts

    Mick writes:

    All children should be taught CPR and basic first aid at school. Also, all expectant mothers and fathers should have CPR training for babies at anti-natal classes and the handover of patients at hospitals should be simplified so to release the crews as quickly as possible so they can responded to another emergency.

    Anonymous texts:

    I worked in control room environment for 20 years. So much pressure on resources but the amount of time spent handling hospital transfers hasn't been mentioned. Lots of hospitals closing specific depts, i.e. Paediatric, stroke unit, cardiology mean that lots of hours are spent moving patients around to more suitable beds, or maybe even to find them a bed cos none are available

    Ed, Isle of Wight comments:

    Many ambulance services have been contracted out to private companies. There must be a response time difference between them and NHS service. Interesting to see that difference.

  15. BBC's Nikki finds the back of an ambulance can be a bumpy ridepublished at 16:08 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    Look East's Nikki Fox is out with an ambulance crew in Norfolk.

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    BBC Look East Reporter Nikki Fox

  16. Rush hour 'busiest time' for Wales servicepublished at 16:04 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    As rush hour approaches, the control room in Wales is preparing for its busiest time...

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  17. First day on the job for new paramedicpublished at 16:00 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

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  18. Ambulance allocator delivered 12 babies over phonepublished at 15:55 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    Daisy Patterson describes how she helps delivers babies over the phone

  19. 999 caller asks for glass of waterpublished at 15:51 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    London Ambulance Service control centre

    Our reporter Mark Ashdown is in the London Ambulance Service's control room and says it is a service "under extreme pressure".

    "They would normally get around 5,000 calls through here and they have already had 2,500," he said. 

    "The air ambulance has been up three times and there have been 10 cardiac arrests".

    But the most shocking stories were those calling without a real need...

    "We have had someone calling needing a glass of water," said our reporter. "Someone else called saying they had a cold and asking for a paramedic.

    "The advice is to use the service wisely as, like everywhere across the country, it is under pressure."

  20. Let's all work together to improve patient carepublished at 15:43 Greenwich Mean Time 30 November 2016

    Readers react to earlier posts

    Boris Porter says:

    I fully agree with Steve (13.56 post). My wife is a paramedic in a relatively local ambulance trust and, even in the years she has been working there, the pressures have increased enormously. After a change in their schedules which was clearly designed by someone, or more probably a well-paid external consultancy, with absolutely no knowledge of how the service works, they finish late far more often than on time. The workload is increasing with a triumvirate of an increasing population, an ageing population, and a progressively unthinking and demanding population unwilling to take responsibility for themselves where possible. All for a basic salary of just over £20,000. They must really love their jobs!

    Cara tells us:

    I am currently a second year student paramedic, and I think I can speak for most of my fellow students when I say that we are growing impatient with attitudes from some (and by no means all) ambulance staff such as John. I fail to see how educating paramedics to a degree level is anything but beneficial to an ever growing profession. Resentment towards students only adds pressure to an already struggling service. Embrace us and help us to learn, so that we can all work together to improve patient care and outcomes. 

    James, East Midlands, comments:

    Student paramedics are doing a great job training to be the future of an under-staffed service. There is a huge shortage across the country due to increased workload and ‘older’ staff leaving in droves.  Student paramedics are trained at university often to a higher standard than their peers they start work alongside.  Having accumulated learning on the job for 1500 hours they hit the road running on qualification reminding me of the young heroes in the Battle of Britain.  Yes the service needs more organisational support, more realistic targets and more resources, but let’s not add cynicism and knock those who want to put their hearts and souls into this great job!