Summary

  • The Duke and Duchess of Sussex were interviewed by Oprah Winfrey for a two-hour CBS primetime special

  • Meghan says one member of the Royal Family had concerns about how "dark" her son Archie's skin would be

  • Winfrey clarifies that neither the Queen nor the Duke of Edinburgh were part of that conversation

  • In unaired footage, Prince Harry says racism from the tabloid press that filtered into the rest of society was a "large part" of why they left the UK

  • He says he has now been "cut off" financially, which is why the couple sought Netflix and Spotify deals

  • Prince Harry reveals their new baby - due in the summer - is a girl

  • In January 2020 the couple had an invitation to visit the Queen at Sandringham suddenly withdrawn by her private secretary, he says

  • Meghan says she found life within the Royal Family so difficult that at times she "didn't want to be alive any more"

  • But she talks about contact with the family - she phoned the Queen after Prince Philip went into hospital last month

  • At a government Covid briefing, Boris Johnson refuses to comment, but says he has the "highest admiration for the Queen"

  • Oprah with Meghan and Harry: A Primetime Special, drew more than 17m viewers in the US

  • The interview is being broadcast in the UK on ITV and on ITV Hub, courtesy of Harpo Productions/CBS

  1. What did Harry and Meghan say in the extra clips?published at 15:47 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    People watching the interviewImage source, Getty Images

    As America digests last night's revelations from Prince Harry and Meghan, Oprah Winfrey has appeared on CBS This Morning to show unseen footage which didn't make the two-hour interview.

    Here's what we learnt from the new clips:

    • It was not the Queen or the Duke of Edinburgh who made remarks about what colour Archie's skin would be
    • Meghan says she doesn't know her half-sister Samantha who wrote a "tell-all" book about her. Meghan says she had seen her twice in the last 30 years and Samantha only changed her name back to Markle when she started dating Harry
    • When Meghan joined the Royal Family in 2018 she was told 'it would be best if you could be 50% less', Winfrey says
    • Meghan says she felt "betrayal" when she found out her father Thomas Markle was "working with the tabloids"
    • Meghan says the Duchess of Cambridge's treatment by the media was "rude" but what she experienced was "racist"
    • Winfrey says the relationship between Meghan and her father was similar to that of Prince Harry and Prince William. But Harry says he will "always be there" for his brother.
  2. Queen and Duke 'not part of skin colour conversation'published at 15:35 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    We told you earlier Oprah Winfrey revealed that the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh were not involved in any discussion about what the skin tone of Meghan and Harry's then unborn child would be.

    Here she is speaking on CBS This Morning to the show's Gayle King.

    Media caption,

    Oprah Winfrey: 'Queen and Duke not part of baby skin colour conversation'

  3. Couple describe hearing Prince Philip was in hospitalpublished at 15:30 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Prince PhilipImage source, Getty Images

    In the wide-ranging interview, Harry and Meghan tell Oprah how they heard his grandfather, the Duke of Edinburgh, had been taken to hospital.

    The pair shared how they reacted genuinely, without the constraints of royal protocol.

    Meghan says: "I woke up earlier than H and saw a note from someone in our team in the UK saying that the Duke of Edinburgh had gone to the hospital. I just picked up the phone and I called the Queen just to check in, just like I you know I would. That's what we do. It's like being able to default to not having to every moment go 'Is that appropriate?'"

    Harry says: "For so many of my family, what they do is there's a level of controlling, because they're fearful of what the papers are going to say about them. Yeah. Whereas with us it was just like just be yourself. Just be genuine, just be authentic. Just go and do what we're referring to - get it wrong and get it wrong, if you get it right, get it right."

  4. Idea of Charles making skin comments 'astonishing', says biographerpublished at 15:20 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    The World at One
    BBC Radio 4

    Jonathan Dimbleby and Prince Charles in 1994Image source, PA Media
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    Jonathan Dimbleby and Prince Charles in 1994

    Journalist and royal biographer Jonathan Dimbleby said he found the notion that Prince Charles could have raised concerns about the the skin colour of the Sussexes' baby "quite astonishing".

    "I know him, I’ve known him a long time. I have seen him with all kinds of different people of all religions, all faiths, all ethnic groups, in this country and elsewhere in the world. I have never seen a hint of that," he told BBC Radio 4's World at One.

    "On the contrary, he is someone whose personal and professional life has been dedicated to bringing people together not pulling them apart. I find it extraordinarily difficult to believe that it might have been him."

    Dimbleby, who wrote a biography of the Prince of Wales, said it is important to "be extremely careful" about taking claims "at face value" .

    "I am not suggesting that Meghan is deliberately distorting or speaking falsehood, but there are ways in which people can interpret what happens that can mislead others into believing something that is far cruder and simpler than it might have been intended to be," he said.

    Dimbleby added: “Whether it was said or not I do not know and who said it I do not know either and I think that’s where we ought to be before leaping to conclusions and judgements.”

  5. Meghan 'incredibly brave' to share suicidal feelingspublished at 15:09 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    BBC Radio 5 Live

    Stock image representing mental healthImage source, Getty Images

    "It’s incredibly brave to speak up to one person about suicidal feelings, let alone an audience of billions."

    Journalist Bryony Gordon, who hosts the mental health podcast Mad World, told BBC Radio 5 Live she was "in awe" of Meghan for speaking up about her mental health.

    "There will be people out there...who will have experienced suicidal feelings in the last year and they can feel very isolating.

    "To hear Meghan Markle go on television and say, 'I had those feelings,'... that's going to resonate with someone out there today and I hope they will get in touch with the Samaritans or Papyrus UK or one of the other amazing suicide prevention organisations that are out there."

    Visit the BBC's Action Line page for more help on suicide prevention.

    Listen to 5 Live on the free BBC Sounds app.

  6. Meghan deserves 'more empathy'published at 15:00 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    BBC Radio 5 Live

    Journalist Miranda Larbi says, as a mixed race woman, she can relate "in a small way" to what Meghan is going through.

    She told BBC Radio 5 Live's Naga Munchetty: "Whenever you talk about Meghan Markle, it’s black and minority ethnic people who side with her versus the people who don’t believe there’s any problem and think that she’s uppity and who tend to be, in my experience, white.

    "The continual campaign that seems to be against her, I just think, speaks to people’s experiences on a much more heightened level."

    Miranda added that she thought Meghan deserved more empathy.

    "I think she deserves a bit more empathy from the British public who have been fed a constant stream of vitriol from the media and palace briefing.”

    Listen to the interview here, external or listen to 5 Live on the free BBC Sounds app.

  7. Winfrey: Distance between William and Harrypublished at 14:42 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Harry and WilliamImage source, Getty Images

    Winfrey has likened the "distance" between Meghan and her father to the relationship between Prince William and Prince Harry.

    She was asked by CBS This Morning if she thought Meghan was open to repairing the relationship with her father.

    Winfrey said: "I didn't pursue that conversation. From what I gathered the relationship with her father is similar to what is happening with Prince Harry and Prince William, there is distance there and maybe with time things will get better but for now, no."

    The TV star also discussed Harry's relationship with the Prince of Wales and said: "I was surprised he was open and vulnerable because we could feel his pain when he was speaking about his father.

    "When he talked about 72 Members of Parliament stood up and none of his family did and that hurts, I could feel he really deeply meant that.

    "You can feel his sadness and I think what he said in the interview last night on continuing to mend that relationship is what he intends to do but it is very sad."

  8. Meghan's father 'betrayed' her by 'working with tabloids'published at 14:36 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Thomas Markle

    In an extra clip, which was not included in the two-hour Oprah special, Meghan says it felt like "betrayal" when she found out her father Thomas Markle was "working with the tabloids".

    She says, of the story which came out just before she and Harry got married: "We called my dad and I asked him and he said 'no, absolutely not' and I said you know the institution has never intervened for anything for us but they can try to go in and kill this story, but if they do this once we're not going to be able to use that same leverage to protect our own kids one day."

    Meghan says she had said to her father: "'I just need you to tell me and if you tell me the truth we can help'.

    "And he wasn't able to do that, and that for me has really resonated, especially now as a mother."

    She says: "I look at Archie, I think about this child, and I genuinely can't imagine doing anything to intentionally cause pain to my child. I can't imagine it, so it's hard for me to reconcile that."

    Asked about her father's accountability for his actions, she added: "Everyone has accountability. They [tabloids] hunted my mum down and you've never heard her say a word."

  9. Winfrey: 'Meghan told best if she could be 50% less'published at 14:32 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Oprah Winfrey also recalled a conversation she had with Meghan when she first approached her in 2018, telling CBS: "She had just joined the Royal Family and she shared a conversation with me then that made me feel somewhat disheartened.

    "She said she had been told, been given advice, that it would be best if she could be 50% less than she was. That was the quote, if she could be 50% less.

    "I remember hearing that in 2018 and I said to her, 'I don't know how you're going to survive, being half of yourself'."

  10. Winfrey: Meghan's text asked how it was goingpublished at 14:27 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Asked how the couple is feeling today, Winfrey told CBS's This Morning: "I haven't really spoken to them since the interview because we are in different time zones.

    "I got a text from Meghan yesterday saying 'How is it going?' because she was putting Archie to bed waiting on the west coast feed and had no idea what was happening on the east coast.

    "I said 'I don't (have any idea) either but from what I can tell it's going well, I know it's airing.' I will probably have a conversation with them later on today."

  11. Meghan on Samantha Markle: 'She doesn't know me'published at 14:20 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    In a clip from the interview with Oprah Winfrey in which she discussed her half-sister Samantha Markle's tell-all book, Meghan said: "I think it would be very hard to tell-all when you don't know me.

    "This is a very different situation than my dad, when we talk about betrayal, betrayal comes from someone you have a relationship with.

    "I don't feel comfortable talking about people that I really don't know but I grew up as an only child, which everyone who grew up around me knows, and I wished I had siblings, I would have loved to have had siblings."

    The Duchess said the last time she has seen her half-sister was "at least 18 or 19 years ago and then 10 years before that".

    She added that they were "not close".

    "She changed her last name back to Markle, she was in her early 50s at that time, only when I started dating Harry and I think that says enough."

  12. PM has not seen interview, says No 10published at 14:10 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    A No 10 spokesman said he had not discussed the Sussexes' interview with the prime minister and he did not know whether Boris Johnson had seen a transcript.

    Asked whether Mr Johnson thought allegations of racism should be taken seriously, the spokesman said: "Neither he nor I have seen the interview".

    He said Mr Johnson had previously said there was "no place in society" for racism.

  13. Starmer: Palace must take racism claims 'very seriously'published at 14:00 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Sir Keir StarmerImage source, PA Media

    Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer did not say whether he thought Buckingham Palace should investigate the Sussexes' claims that a member of the Royal Family raised concerns about their son's skin colour - but said they "need to be taken very, very seriously".

    "They are allegations in relation to race and mental health - this is bigger than the Royal Family," he said during visit to a school in East London.

    "For too many years we've been too dismissive and too willing to put these issues to one side - [we] can't do that - serious allegations need to be taken seriously."

    He added: "That experience of racism, I'm sad to say, is too prevalent in 21st century Britain - we all have to take that seriously and redouble our efforts."

    Asked whether the Royal Family was now fit for purpose, he said: "There are serious allegations and we will have to see how the institution reactions to this."

    Earlier, his shadow education secretary Kate Green told Sky News that Buckingham Palace should "fully investigate" Harry and Meghan's claims that a member of the Royal Family expressed concerns about the colour of their son Archie's skin.

    "There’s never any excuse, in any circumstances, for racism, and I think it is important that action is taken to investigate what are really shocking allegations," she said.

  14. Winfrey: 'Difference between privacy and intrusion'published at 13:58 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Discussing the Sussexes' bid for privacy, Winfrey told CBS: "There is a difference between privacy and intrusion and being able to have boundaries.

    "Yes you want privacy. You don't want helicopters and people hiding in the bushes filming your baby outside playing.

    She defended the couple's choice to do the interview.

    "I think when people say 'Oh they are talking now but they wanted privacy' they don't understand there is a difference between being a public figure who wants to have some boundaries and not be consistently intruded upon versus being private."

    Asked what surprised her in the interview, Oprah Winfrey said: "I think the skin tone, the discussions about what colour Archie's skin tone would be.

    "What also surprised me, and that is why I clarified, were you just feeling badly, were you feeling sad or were there suicidal ideation thoughts of harming yourself, that also surprised me.

    She said it also surprised her that "Harry said he was trapped."

  15. Meghan: 'Rude and racist are not the same'published at 13:53 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Meghan said she and the Duchess of Cambridge's experiences dealing with the press were different, saying "rude and racist are not the same".

    She said: "Kate was called 'Waity Katie' waiting to marry William. While I imagine that was really hard - and I do, I can't picture what that felt like - this is not the same."

    She added: "And if a member of his family would comfortably say 'We've all had to deal with things that are rude', rude and racist are not the same.

    "And equally you've also had a press team that goes on the record to defend you, especially when they know something's not true, and that didn't happen for us."

  16. Harry: 'I will always be there for William'published at 13:48 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    In another excerpt aired on CBS's This Morning Harry says it was "really hard because I am part of the system with them, I always have been".

    "But I guess, and I am very aware of this, that my brother can't leave that system but I have."

    Asked if William wanted to leave the system, he replied: "I don't know, I can't speak for him."

    Harry said the "relationship and that control and the fear by the UK tabloids, it's a really... toxic environment".

    He said he will "always be there for him (William), and I will always be there for my family and as I've said I've tried to help them to see what has happened".

    Asked if his father, the Prince of Wales, thinks it is a "toxic environment", Harry said: "I think he's had to make peace with it."

    Asked why they could not make peace with it, Meghan said "this was different" due to social media, describing it as "like the wild, wild West".

  17. Winfrey: 'Stories about blind-siding Queen very damaging'published at 13:44 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Oprah Winfrey said the full interview was three hours and 20 minutes long and was edited down to one hour and 25 minutes for the US broadcast, and the most important question she wanted to answer was "why did they leave?"

    She added: "The stories about blindsiding the Queen were very damaging to them and hurtful to them, there had clearly been months and months of preparation before they moved to Canada."

    She also referred to a statement released by the Queen on January 18 which said their decision to leave followed "many months of conversation and more recent discussion".

    Winfrey said: "The Queen on January 18 actually said that there had been months of conversation but in spite of that there were still all those stories about blindsiding."

    In another unseen clip, Winfrey asked if family members reached out to him to apologise for the reasons he felt he had to leave.

    He replied: "Sadly not."

  18. Harry told invitation to visit Queen was 'called off'published at 13:34 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    In another CBS clip, Harry said he had been suddenly told he was no longer invited to spend time with the Queen at Sandringham in January 2020.

    Harry said the Queen had told him to come and see her there after he and Meghan arrived back in the UK from Canada.

    He said: "My grandmother had said 'the moment you land, come up to Sandringham, we'd love to have a chat, come for tea, why don't you stay for dinner because it's going to be a long drive and you're going to be exhausted?"'

    He said 'the moment we landed in the UK' he got a message from his private secretary at the time, passing on a message from the Queen's private secretary.

    Essentially, he said he was told "she was too busy. You can't come up".

    Harry said he then rang the Queen from Frogmore Cottage and she said: "Yes, there's something in my diary that I didn't know that I had."

    He said he asked about the rest of the week, and his grandmother had replied that she was busy then too. He told Winfrey: "I didn't want to push because I kind of knew what was going on."

    The chat show host asked: "Doesn't the Queen get to do what the Queen wants to do?"

    Harry replied: "When you're head of the firm there is people around you that give you advice. And what has also made me really sad is some of that advice has been really bad."

  19. Harry: Racism was 'a large part' of why we leftpublished at 13:19 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    More lines are coming in from US breakfast show CBS This Morning, which has aired unseen footage not used as part of the main interview broadcast yesterday.

    Asked by Winfrey if the couple left the UK because of racism, Harry replied: "It was a large part of it."

    Recalling a conversation he had at a fundraiser for the charity he helped found, Sentebale, he said he was urged by someone who is "friends with a lot of the editors" to 'Please don't do this with the media, they will destroy your life'."

    He said he was told: "You need to understand that the UK is very bigoted," to which he replied: "The UK is not bigoted, the UK press is bigoted, specifically the tabloids." He added: "But unfortunately if the source of info is inherently corrupt or racist or biased then that filters out to the rest of society."

  20. Winfrey: Not Queen or Duke who made skin colour commentpublished at 13:14 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Oprah Winfrey has been giving more detail about the interview in the US.

    It was not the Queen or the Duke of Edinburgh who made the comment about how dark the couple's baby's skin would be, Oprah Winfrey has told CBS show This Morning.

    She said: "He did not share the identity with me but he wanted to make sure I knew, and if I had an opportunity to share it, that it was not his grandmother or grandfather that were part of those conversations.

    "He did not tell me who was a part of those conversations."