Summary

  • The government has outlined laws to ensure some public service workers continue to work during strike action

  • Business Secretary Grant Shapps told MPs that the bill would protect lives and livelihoods by maintaining minimum service levels

  • But Labour's deputy leader Angela Rayner accused the government of "disastrous chaos" and says it needs to address staffing and pay in the public sector

  • The proposed law is expected to cover health and education services as well as transport and fire and rescue services

  • It comes amid a wave of industrial action as workers seek pay rises in the face of the rising cost of living

  • Ministers say the move is common sense but the RMT's Mick Lynch says the legislation is "draconian" and he will oppose in the courts

  1. SNP's Cherry asks if bill will comply with international lawpublished at 14:11 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    SNP Joanna Cherry said many workers are on strike because they can't afford their mortgages or their rent because of the hike in interest rates caused by the government.

    She speaks about the possibility that workers could be sacked if they go on strike under the legislation.

    She asks if the detail of the bill will comply with the UK's obligations under ECHR and under international labour law.

    In reply, Shapps says the government would need to borrow to give pay rises, and that will push up inflation.

    He says the new bill is compliant with employment law.

  2. Workers do not take strike action lightly - Corbynpublished at 14:10 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    Former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn asks Shapps to acknowledge the stress level of workers who've had years of pay freezes and poor conditions.

    "Nobody lightly votes to take strike action," he says, adding people do it to protect themselves and their families.

    Shapps says it's "obviously not true" that there have been pay freezes for 10 years, pointing again to last year's rise for some NHS workers.

    The business secretary also says he does accept people work hard and are stressed, but asks Corbyn to equally consider the stress levels of those relying on and being let down by public services.

  3. Tory MP worries about children not getting to schoolpublished at 14:08 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    Another Tory MP, Greg Smith, endorses the proposals being put forward by the government.

    He cites children who have been impacted by rail strikes in his Buckinghamshire constituency.

    Shapps says it is a crying shame that children are having their education disrupted - adding that there is a "decent offer" on the table.

    "We just need some common sense from these unions," he says.

  4. Government relaxed about nurses using foodbanks, says MPpublished at 14:06 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    Social Democratic and Labour Party MP for Foyle, Colum Eastwood, said the government is uncomfortable with nurses lining up at picket lines, but is relaxed about them lining up at food banks.

    He says if the government is serious about stopping strikes, now is the time to "pay these essential workers properly".

    In response, Shapps jokingly asks how the frontbench plans to pay for the pay increases.

    He says if they will not gain the respect of the public if they don't bring forward serious measures to limit the impact of the strikes.

  5. Labour urged to support the billpublished at 14:03 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    Next up is Tory MP Angela Richardson.

    She urges Shapps to implore Labour to support the new legislation, saying it's vital not just for services like the railway but also the economy - to keep it "going and growing"

    Shapps says their party is on the side of hard working people, before criticising the Labour Party for failing condemn these strikes. "Not once," he says.

  6. Labour MP accuses Shapps of authoritarian behaviourpublished at 14:01 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    A fairly loaded question by Labour's Richard Burgon who asks if Grant Shapps is "ashamed to be a member of the most authorisation government in Britain in living memory".

    Shapps disputes this point strongly by describing his claim as "ludicrous".

    "Has he seen what truly happens in authoritarian states?" Shapps replies.

  7. Tory MP says businesses must be protectedpublished at 13:59 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    Conservative MP Nickie Aiken speaks about businesses that suffered due to the rail strikes.

    She asks if it is correct to protect the right to strike, but there must be legislation in place to protect businesses and job losses.

    Shapps says a balance has to be struck between all of these different considerations across the economy and this is why minimum service levels are right for the economy.

  8. SNP wants to know difference between this bill and existing lawpublished at 13:58 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    The SNP's Chris Stephens claims the concerns Shapps has raised are already covered by existing legislation.

    "Trade unions are legally obliged to provide life and limb cover already," he says, asking Shapps to outline what the difference is between that and these new rules.

    He says the distinction will determine whether this is simply an attack on workers' rights.

    Shapps points to tomorrow's ambulance worker strike, saying it has not been possible for officials to determine how severe the impact will be on the public.

    People need to know they can access vital services if they need to, he adds once again.

  9. We must stay loyal to the taxpayer, says Tory MPpublished at 13:52 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    Tory MP Lee Anderson says public sector workers' salaries are paid for by the "Great British taxpayer".

    He says while he sympathises with some of the demands by those striking, their loyalty should lie with the taxpayer and not "crazed" union leaders.

    In Shapps' reply, he pays tribute to NHS staff and talks about last year's pay rise, saying there's a "very good reason" more than 1 million of them got a rise last year.

    But, he adds, a government has to consider the wider impact of pay rises - including worsening inflation.

  10. Praise for armed forces during Border Force walkoutspublished at 13:47 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    Conservative MP Richard Drax says he's heard nothing but praise for the armed forces when they stepped in to run passport checks during the Border Force strikes.

    He asks if Shapps agrees that many who work in public service and their trade unions have forgotten the government spent £400bn safeguarding their jobs during the pandemic.

    In response, Shapps paid tribute to the army for their "fantastic work".

    He adds that most people in the public service are doing a hugely valuable job and many are frustrated by "their radical union leaders leading them often up a garden path".

  11. Labour MP accuses government of 'criminalising' key workerspublished at 13:46 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    Labour MP Ian Lavery says only time will tell what is really behind this legislation.

    He asks why Shapps is "criminalising" key workers who worked throughout the pandemic, and "whose only crime is demanding decent pay, terms and conditions for themselves, and also a safe environment for themselves and the public".

  12. Lib Dems says dispute could be resolved with more investmentpublished at 13:44 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    Next, Liberal Democrat MP for Edinburgh Christine Jardine says everyone lives with the pressures of the war in Ukraine.

    But, she feels the best way to solve the various industrial disputes is by investment.

    Shapps replies talking about funding increases for the NHS and adds that Rishi Sunak's priority is to bring down waiting lists.

  13. Shapps accused of 'declaring war on working people'published at 13:43 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    Back to the opposition benches in the Commons, as Labour MP Andy McDonald points out that Shapps in his statement outlining the bill claims he supports the right to strike while also trying to ban some workers from being able to stage walkouts.

    Does he not see the ridiculous position he's got himself into, McDonald asks? "And where does he think declaring war on working people is going to end?"

    Shapps replies, again referring to what he calls "radical" countries such as France and Spain, who he says already have laws like these in place.

  14. Tory MP says unions risk support by not offering minimum servicepublished at 13:41 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    Now to veteran Tory MP Sir Julian Lewis who says the public's support for the unions will be put at risk if they do not maintain a minimum service.

    Shapps agrees with his Conservative colleague and points out that the ambulance strike in England and Wales tomorrow currently has no minimum service agreement.

    He hopes the primary power contained in the bill will never have to be used, should it be passed.

  15. Strikes hurt rural communities - Tory MPpublished at 13:39 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    Conservative MP Selaine Saxby asks Shapps how the new legislation with help rural communities, where she says strikes have a far graver impact.

    Shapps replies that these "so-called forever strikes" do indeed particularly hurt those living outside cities most.

    He says the government will do all it can to support these people.

  16. Shapps says proposed measures are 'moderate and sensible'published at 13:38 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    Shapps responds to the SNP's question by repeating his point that the measures will be in line with other European Union countries and says it is a moderate and sensible approach.

    He cites that "blue light" strikes in Australia are banned entirely.

    Shapps then points out that primary school teachers are on strike today and secondary school teachers go on strike tomorrow in Scotland.

  17. SNP says strike safety bill 'stinks'published at 13:37 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    Next up is the SNP's spokesman Alan Brown, who hits out at the new bill, saying it "stinks".

    He blames the Conservatives for tanking the economy - and says the government is forcing "ordinary people" to pay for its mistakes.

    He says it hasn't been easy in Scotland either, but the government there has committed to fair negotiations with striking workers.

    Alan Brown
  18. MPs quiz Shapps on government's strike lawpublished at 13:36 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    It's time now to hear from those backbench MPs who have caught the Speaker's eye and are asked to put their questions to Shapps.

    Tory MP Brendan Clark Smith says what is being proposed is fair and proportionate and is equivalent to what is in place in France and Spain.

    Shapps agrees and says the police were banned from striking in 1919 and that is something that is still in place.

  19. Shapps responds to Rayner's criticismpublished at 13:33 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    That's it for Angela Rayner's response on behalf of Labour, so it's back to Business Secretary Grant Shapps to offer his rebuttal of the points she made.

    It's almost as if Covid and pressures on the NHS never occurred according to Labour, Shapps says.

    He goes on, saying the party is ignoring the fact Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine - or doesn't think the rest of Europe is "going through the same problems".

    They are have huge impacts on the NHS, Shapps says, suggesting this makes negotiations harder.

    Grant Shapps in the Commons
  20. Government 'out of time' and 'running out of sticking plasters'published at 13:32 Greenwich Mean Time 10 January 2023

    Rayner picks out Shapps's point about singling out paramedics and ambulance workers, but says service levels were at 82% as people left picket lines to make sure emergency calls were responded to.

    She says: "This is really all about a government that is out of ideas out of time and fast running out of sticking plasters."