Summary

  • Energy Secretary Grant Shapps tells Laura Kuenssberg people "don't miss the drama" of Boris Johnson's premiership

  • Pressed on whether Johnson had been the victim of a "witch hunt", Shapps says: "Boris himself has decided to step down. That is his own decision"

  • Labour's David Lammy has appeared on the programme, and during his interview called for a general election

  • Nigel Farage has also been questioned, and claimed Johnson's resignation as an MP means it's "the end" for the former PM in the Tory party

  • Scotland’s First Minister Humza Yousaf says he would work with “any party that is progressive”, but the “price would be a Scottish independence referendum”

  1. Thanks for joining uspublished at 13:17 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    We're ending our live coverage now. Thanks for following along as Laura Kuenssberg and her guests have dug into the detail of Boris Johnson's resignation and its aftermath - as well as her interview with Scotland's new First Minister Humza Yousaf.

    We've loads more for you to read:

    And of course we'll be back in a week for next Sunday's programme - by which time we expect there will have been plenty of time for everyone to trawl through that Privileges Committee report on Johnson.

    Today's coverage was written by Ece Goksedef, Alexandra Binley and Heather Sharp. It was edited by Jamie Whitehead.

  2. What's been happening?published at 12:58 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Here's a recap of where things stand, two days after former PM Boris Johnson announced he was stepping down as an MP.

    Government reacts:

    • Energy Secretary Grant Shapps has rejected claims by Johnson that he's the victim of a witch hunt, saying it was his "own decision" to resign
    • He said the country "wants to move on", two days after Johnson announced he was resigning after seeing in advance the findings of the Commons Privileges Committee investigation into whether he misled the Commons over Partygate

    Will Johnson be back?

    • Shapps said he doesn't think Johnson is in the "mindset" to stand in another parliamentary seat - though political journalist Isabel Oakeshott said it's "nonsense" that he doesn't want to come back into politics
    • Johnson ally and former minister Jacob Rees-Mogg has warned the Conservatives against blocking any attempt by the former PM to seek another seat, saying it would unleash "civil war" in the party

    What next?

    • We should see the actual report soon, possibly as early as Monday or Tuesday
    • The Conservatives now face three by-elections to replace Johnson, along with his allies Nadine Dorries and Nigel Adams who have also stepped down - we're watching for any more resignations
    • Labour are calling for a snap general election, with leader Keir Starmer saying PM Rishi Sunak has "failed to end" what he called "the Tory chaos"

  3. Toxic swirl of 'he said, she said' over honours listpublished at 12:49 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Laura Kuenssberg
    Presenter, Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg

    Grant Shapps denied strongly this morning that the prime minister had done anything other than follow the proper process when it came to the aides and allies Boris Johnson wanted to reward with places in the House of Lords.

    He also, when pushed, denied that any member of Rishi Sunak’s team had taken names off the list months before - in advance of the nominations going to the House of Lords official body for checking and vetting.

    That is one of the latest points of dispute in a toxic swirl of 'he said, she said', between the former PM’s camp and the current No 10 Downing Street.

    A source familiar with the process suggested to the BBC that months before anything official, Sunak’s political team had removed some of Johnson’s suggestions.

    It’s no doubt another frustration for Downing Street, who want to move on, and Shapps did deny that had happened.

    Why does it matter? Well it’s a spat that might look grubby from the outside. But it shows again that some of Boris Johnson’s allies have no desire to let this lie.

  4. Key extracts from Boris Johnson’s resignation statementpublished at 12:22 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Boris Johnson announced his resignation from Parliament in a fiery 1,000-word statement. Here's a recap of the key bits:

    • He branded the cross-party Commons privileges committee a "kangaroo court", which was "determined" to "drive me out of Parliament"
    • He denied lying to Parliament over Partygate, accusing the committee of having "wilfully chosen to ignore the truth"
    • He accused some Tory MPs of joining forces with opposition parties in a "witch hunt" against him
    • He claimed this was part of a plot to "take revenge for Brexit" and "ultimately to reverse" the 2016 referendum result
    • He said the party's popularity had taken a hit after he was ousted as PM, with Labour's poll lead "massively" widened
    • He called for the Conservatives to cut business and personal taxes to "recapture its sense of momentum"
  5. Johnson could lead again when Rishi's hair has gone grey - Rees-Moggpublished at 11:49 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Jacob Rees-Mogg at GB News, 27 Feb 2023Image source, PA Media

    We've heard a bit more from Johnson ally Jacob Rees-Mogg, who wrote in this morning's Mail on Sunday that the former PM was now in "pole position to return as Conservative leader if a vacancy should arise".

    Asked by GB News when that might be, the former business secretary said Rishi Sunak must remain at the helm until the next general election, as it would be "folly" to change leaders again.

    He said he was referring to "some indeterminate date in the future when Rishi's hair has gone grey and he decides to retire, and Boris comes back on his charger to save the nation".

    Rees-Mogg - who has his own show on GB News - said that he was not aware of any plot to undermine the prime minister by forcing by-elections, and nobody had suggested to him that he should force one in his own constituency.

    Asked whether he deserved the knighthood he received in Johnson's resignation honours, he said such political honours are about "rewarding those people who have helped a prime minister carry out a very, very difficult job".

    He said it was important that Johnson had also honoured people who weren't household names who had served the office of prime minister.

  6. Conservative MP: I don't think a Boris comeback is an optionpublished at 11:37 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Conservative MP Chris Green has been on Politics North West this morning, and was asked about a potential Johnson comeback.

    "There's an ethics thing. You have a commitment to your constituents, you can't ditch them and go somewhere else just a few weeks later. So, I don't think that's an option," Green said.

    He thinks that the Conservative Party may also have different ideas as to whether or not he can return.

    "To a large extent this clears the air in terms of Rishi Sunak as prime minister, all of these arguments saying there might be a leadership challenge, it's all clarified," he added.

  7. SNP could make life difficult for Labour - Yousafpublished at 11:08 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Humza Yousaf

    Humza Yousaf has said having an independence referendum would be "top of the list" if Labour wanted SNP backing.

    And the SNP could make life "very difficult" for Labour in a hung parliament if it refused to give Scotland independence vote powers.

    However he said it was "obvious" that independence was not the "consistent settled will of the Scottish people".

    Yousaf told Laura Kuenssberg his preference was a "legally binding referendum" and to demonstrate consistent support for the independence.

    You can read more here.

  8. WATCH: There should be a general election - Lammypublished at 10:52 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Shortly after Shapps joined Laura Kuenssberg on this morning's programme, David Lammy sat down to be questioned.

    Media caption,

    There should be a general election - David Lammy

  9. WATCH: People don't miss Boris Johnson 'drama'published at 10:45 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Let's have a quick recap of Grant Shapps' chat with Laura Kuenssberg earlier this morning.

    Media caption,

    Grant Shapps: People don't miss Boris Johnson 'drama'

  10. This shows Johnson can still be a thorn in Sunak's sidepublished at 10:37 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Leila Nathoo
    Political correspondent

    Energy Secretary Grant Shapps' overriding message was: "Thanks for your time Boris, but it's time for everyone to move on."

    Labour are calling for a general election, but before that there will be the three by-elections. They will be big electoral tests, and will take place imminently.

    For Rishi Sunak, these are not something he wants at this point when his party is behind in the polls.

    This whole episode shows Boris Johnson still has the potential to be a thorn in Rishi Sunak's side and that Conservative splits - which he has managed to keep a lid on so far - can burst out into the open again.

  11. What happened on today's programme?published at 10:21 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    It's been a busy one, unsurprisingly dominated by Boris Johnson and the row surrounding his honours list

    • Energy secretary Grant Shapps insisted Prime Minister Rishi Sunak did not remove names from Boris Johnson's peerages list. A former member of Johnson's cabinet, he also said he didn't believe Johnson was in the "mindset" to attempt a return to the Commons
    • Former Ukip leader Nigel Farage was also on the show and didn’t rule out working with Johnson in the future, but added he would “have to be part of some sort of centre-right realignment"
    • Shadow foreign secretary David Lammy tried to steer the conversation away from Johnson, highlighting the increasing cost of living and long NHS waits - he also called for a general election and spoke in favour of the honours system, but said Labour would "address the democratic deficit" in the Lords
    • Panel discussions similarly centred around Johnson and the row around the honours list. Journalist Isabel Oakeshott said it's a "toxic cesspool of claim and counter-claim", while former Tory leader Michael Howard said he didn't believe there was any question of Johnson standing to be an MP in the immediate future and urged the party to unite behind Sunak
  12. Cumming believes that Yousaf has a credible plan for independencepublished at 10:05 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Laura Kuenssberg panel

    On the final chat with the panel, Cumming said that the Scottish parliament was stuck with Westminster blocking the laws passed in the Scottish parliament.

    He said he thinks Yousaf has a credible plan to get to Scottish independence but there is going to be a lot of troubles and adjustments, so “it is traumatic for the people of Scotland”, and added that he thinks that the big issue is whether it will be respected by Westminster.

    Cumming was then asked about his role as a producer on A Strange Loop, written by Michael R. Jackson.

    It's a story about a young, gay, black writer who hates his day job, so writes a musical about a young, gay, black writer who’s writing a musical about a young, gay, Black writer...

    Cumming says he's been delighted, through his involvement, to learn more about blackness and queerness.

    He says he wants to give the message that more white people need to go to shows about black stories, in order to learn, support and advocate.

    "I hope my involvement will broaden the demographic," he says.

  13. Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg comes to an endpublished at 10:00 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    This week's programme has finished, but stay with us as we recap the last hour and bring you analysis.

  14. Yousaf would work with 'any party that is progressive'published at 09:53 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Kuenssberg asks if Yousaf would work with the Labour Party if it were the biggest party but wouldn’t have enough of a majority after an election, he said “I’d work with any party that is progressive, the price would be to have an independence referendum”.

    He also says he would never prop up a Conservative minority government.

  15. We'll use general election for independence - Yousafpublished at 09:51 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Kuenssberg and Yousaf

    Scotland’s First Minister Humza Yousaf is now speaking about Scottish independence. He says independence will be on the front and center of their general election campaign.

    Quote Message

    The preferred route for the independence remains a legally binding referendum which is agreed by two governments. If we are not able to express the support proposition of independence through the legally binding referendum, we’ll use the general election to do that."

  16. Is the Conservative Party the most successful party in the world?published at 09:49 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Back to the panel now, where Michael Howard says the Tories have always been prepared to adapt their principles to current challenges and that's what Sunak is doing at the moment.

    And then he claims that the “Conservative Party is the most successful party in the world because they always find a pragmatic way to solve the challenges of the country.”

    Oakeshott opposes, saying that it's arrogant to say they are the most successful party, and reminds him about the economy and the NHS.

    “It’s very possible there'll have to be a coalition after the next election, there will be a hung parliament coalition I believe.”

    Cumming says the claim of the Conservative Party to be the most successful party “is a fallacy”, and adds he doesn't think Johnson’s perspective is shared by the majority of people in the country.

  17. Will Farage and Johnson work together again?published at 09:38 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Farage says he "will not rule anything in or anything out", when asked if he will work with Boris Johnson in the future, but adds that if the ex-PM wants to stay in politics "he's going to have to be part of some sort of centre-right realignment".

    Asked if he's reached out to Johnson, Farage replies: "Well it's up to him. Does he want to leave the Conservative tribe and do something new?... There is a gap out there".

    Questioned if Conservative MPs have been in touch, Farage replies "more than before" have and he believes that "potentially double figures" could be up for forming some sort of alliance.

  18. It's the end for Johnson in Tory party - Faragepublished at 09:37 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Nigel Farage appearing on Sunday With Laura KuenssbergImage source, BBC/Sunday With Laura Kuenssberg

    Boris Johnson's decision to quit as an MP spells "the end" for him in the Conservative Party, says former Ukip leader Nigel Farage.

    "He's virtually just gifted Uxbridge [his Parliamentary seat] to the Labour Party," Farage says, adding "there's no way he's going to be given a seat", addressing the rumours that Johnson may seek to stand in another parliamentary constituency.

    He adds that Johnson is "running out of road" with the Tories and cautions that if the ex-PM launches "all out civil war in the Conservative Party" he will "lose".

  19. No question of Johnson running to be MP again - Howardpublished at 09:35 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    Former Conservative Party leader Michael Howard says he does not think there's any question of Boris Johnson standing to be an MP again in the immediate future.

    Fellow panellist Isabel Oakeshott reflects on Grant Shapps' appearance earlier on the show, claiming that it's "nonsense" that Johnson doesn't want to come back into politics, but says Shapps didn't deny that the party might block Johnson from attempting to stand again.

    Actor Alan Cumming says the focus on peerages seems to be the problem, calling it an archaic system, adding he's horrified that Labour - which he brands as "Conservative light" - would "do nothing to amend that or take steps to change it".

  20. Lammy explains why they delayed the clean energy spending planspublished at 09:33 British Summer Time 11 June 2023

    David Lammy continues defending Labour's position on green spending, saying “The British economy can only succeed if we win the race of clean energy.”

    After giving examples of green spending by some global powers, he added “We are not currently in the race, but we have got to stick to fiscal rules. We want to see a reduction in our debt. For that reason we will delay that 28 billion pounds spent until the second half of the next Parliament.”

    Asked what if the economy was still in dire straits at that time, he said “We've had 12 interest rate rises since the plan was announced 18 months ago, and the government crashed the economy. If they do that again we will have to revise our plan”