Truss crashed the economy, Labour MP says, and workers are paying the pricepublished at 09:05 British Summer Time 27 May
The shadow education secretary, who's been talking to the Today programme, is now asked about the potential "£30bn hole in public finances" - as predicted by the Institute for Fiscal Studies - and what taxes Labour will increase to fund their pledges.
She says the lack of growth back into the economy, and the "abysmal record" over the last 14 years, is part of the reason there is not enough money for public services and why people are facing "the highest tax burden in modern times".
Pushed on whether Labour will actually cut taxes, Phillipson says the taxes workers are faced with "are too high" but the party has to be "up front about the challenges we face".
"Our public finances are in a total mess," she continues, pointing again to "14 years of stagnant wages and low growth". She also highlights the tenure of Liz Truss, saying the former prime minister "crashed the economy and people are paying more every month on their mortgage because of a direct consequence of the reckless and cavalier approach she took".