Postpublished at 21:45 British Summer Time 13 June 2024
We're hearing some back and forth of the two-child benefit cap now.
Ap Iorwerth says it's an "embarrassment" that Farage wants to get rid of the cap but Labour has ruled it out.
Rayner responds by saying that they will "not do unfunded public commitments".
"Why not fund them?" Denyer says in response.