Summary

  • MPs continued debating the government's Brexit deal, ahead of vote next Tuesday

  • Thursday's debate focused on the economic impact of the agreement

  • Commons business began with questions to Brexit ministers

  • House of Lords also debated the Brexit deal this afternoon

  1. Second referendum 'most constructive, democratic and realistic option'published at 00:26 Greenwich Mean Time 5 December 2018

    Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Debate

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    Catherine McKinnellImage source, HoC

    Labour MP Catherine McKinnell says the agreement is "a fudge" and she cannot support it.

    The size of the task the prime minister faced is not a good enough reason to blindly push on without considering the consequences, she says.

    MPs are being asked to vote for a blindfold Brexit whilst being peddled misinformation.

    If the deal is really what the public really wants, why doesn't the government actually ask them, she urges.

    She tells the House that it would the most constructive, democratic and realistic route out of the deadlock.

  2. UK risks 'going back to the dirty man of Europe'published at 00:21 Greenwich Mean Time 5 December 2018

    Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Debate

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    Mary CreaghImage source, HoC

    Labour MP, and chair of the Environmental Audit Committee, Mary Creagh says David Cameron has "a huge amount to answer for".

    He opened the "Pandora's box of English nationalism", she says and now the genie cannot be put back. Tory Euro-scepticism has bought down one Tory leader after another, she says, and she expects it will be the same for Theresa May.

    The government is utterly unprepared for Brexit, she says, and risks the UK going back to being "the dirty man of Europe". EU environmental laws are being neglected, on the false the assumption they can be "copy-and-pasted" with an experienced enforcement.

    The decision needs to be put back to the people "before they pay the price", she says.

  3. Brexit deal 'achieves what the IRA failed to achieve'published at 00:09 Greenwich Mean Time 5 December 2018

    Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Debate

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    Paul GirvanImage source, HoC

    DUP MP Paul Girvan says the EU withdrawal agreement leaves Northern Ireland in a place in which it does not wish to be, in a constitutionally vulnerable position.

    People in Northern Ireland fought and died to remain part of the United Kingdom, he says, but this deal would achieve what the IRA failed to achieve - separating Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK.

    There is no feeling for a no-deal Brexit, he says, and there are very few people in favour of the agreement. The DUP will be opposing the deal, he says.

  4. Failure to investigate 'dark money' a threat to democracypublished at 00:08 Greenwich Mean Time 5 December 2018

    Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Debate

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    Martin Docherty-HughesImage source, HoC

    SNP MP Martin Docherty-Hughes says the decision MPs make next week will be based on a false promise, one that was a result of the involvement of "dark money".

    The inability to investigate the involvement of this dark money is not only a threat to democracy, but to the country as a whole.

    He says he will vote against the deal next week, and if a motion on a second referendum is bought to the House, he will support it.

  5. Brexit deal 'a Frankenstein monster, an ugly beast that no one voted for'published at 00:07 Greenwich Mean Time 5 December 2018

    Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Debate

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    David LammyImage source, HoC

    Labour MP David Lammy says Britain did not become great in total isolation. Total independence is a fantasy and selfish, it would leave the UK weaker. Only through cooperation did Britain become great, he says.

    "Sovereignty is not an asset to be horded, it is a resource that only has value when it is spent."

    Brexiteers are driven by a hangover of empire, an empire that at its worse was built on exploitation. Today there is a need to build a new image of Britain, he says, not hark back to the past.

    Europe gave Britain chance to grow and to gain respect, to become "a grown up country". Brexit showed the worst of the country, and he asks if MPs can really vote for that.

    "Theresa May's deal has emerged as a Frankenstein monster, an ugly beast that no one voted for or wanted."

    A People's Vote offers a second chance, he says, "an opportunity to right the wrong of 2016, another shot at the imperfect, audacious European dream."

  6. Tory MP: Anything but support for deal would lead to chaospublished at 23:53 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2018

    Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Debate

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    Rachel MacleanImage source, HoC

    Conservative Rachel Maclean says a second referendum would risk there being no Brexit at all, and that would not be right.

    The divisions among MPs highlight why the prime minister was right to enter negotiations, rather than leaving the EU without a deal, and she recognises that this highlights the need to be pragmatic and to support this deal.

    The prime minister has sought to strike a "pragmatic balance", she says, and questions how many would do a better job.

    People can and should get on board with this deal, she says, anything else would lead to chaos.

  7. 'The view of the people has changed since 2016'published at 23:40 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2018

    Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Debate

    House of Commons
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    Caroline LucasImage source, HoC

    Green MP Caroline Lucas says she stands by her view that the fate of the country would be "far brighter, fairer and greater" as part of the EU.

    In reality, accepting the withdrawal agreement would only lead to years more of negotiations and uncertainty. It would lead to a smaller Britain, with harder borders and less influence. It would abandon the "miracle" that few would have believed possible during the world wars, she says.

    How dare the prime minister to call on MPs to unite behind her deal? she asks, when she is well aware the impact it would have upon their constituents.

    A second vote would not be overturning the referendum, it would be giving the public an opportunity to express their views on the deal. Every recent opinion poll shows that the view of the people has changed since 2016, she says.

    People warn of the divisive impact of a second referendum, she says, but nothing would be more divisive than when people learn that Brexit does not offer what they promised.

  8. Voters chose more than economic transaction, says Bradleypublished at 23:39 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2018

    Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Debate

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    Ben BradleyImage source, HoC

    Tory MP Ben Bradley says the people of the country knew what they were voting for: "Leave meant leave...we were voting to cease to be a part of the European Union."

    "In the choice of stick or twist, they went for twist," he says. It was more than just an economic transaction.

    This is what the prime minister promised in her Lancaster House speech, he says, but is not what the deal agreed offers.

    It's right that people are sick of the debate and "want us to move on", but the deal does not allow for that, he tells MPs.

    The only way to truly to get it done is to accept that an agreement can't be reached and instead carefully manage the transition onto WTO terms, he says.

  9. Brexit deal 'prioritises outmoded laissez-faire ideology'published at 23:32 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2018

    Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Debate

    House of Commons
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    Chi OnwurahImage source, HoC

    Labour MP Chi Onwurah says Brexit voters won more than the Brexit vote, they won the right to be heard. The Brexit vote caught people's attention.

    There were concerns about immigration, but the end of free movement will not leave anyone more prosperous, she says.

    Immigration was not what betrayed the working people of Britain, but the laissez-faire economic ideology that dominated.

    "I will not support a Brexit deal that prioritises that outmoded ideology" which this deal does, she says.

  10. 'A regret that we have not worked together effectively for UK' - Tory MPpublished at 23:21 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2018

    Brexit Legal Advice Statement

    House of Commons
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    Derek ThomasImage source, HoC

    Tory MP Derek Thomas says "it is a regret that we have not worked together effectively to deliver for the nation" and suggests that the government have done "untold damage" to people who were not brought up in the UK but call the UK their home.

    He says this can only be "corrected" if the government give more details on their new immigration plan.

    Mr Thomas says "no part of this agreement should treat any part of the union differently" and that he will be "looking for assurance" from the Attorney General that this is the case.

    He adds that there is "a narrow window to get this right" and that he believes the vast majority would support the deal if the backstop could be adjusted, "even if it meant extending the implementation period".

  11. 'I take no satisfaction in being proved right about Brexit'published at 23:20 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2018

    Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Debate

    House of Commons
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    Lilian GreenwoodImage source, HoC

    Labour MP Lilian Greenwood says she voted against triggering Article 50 because she wasn't convinced the government had a plan for Brexit: "I take no satisfaction in being proved right."

    The government failed to build a consensus on what Brexit should look like and have only offered an agreement that leaves people worse off, she says.

    The prime minister has been "utterly reckless" in her refusal to plan for a rejection of her deal, she says. "We are headed to a cliff edge Brexit that nobody voted for."

    A Labour government would answer the challenges that led to Brexit, she says, and a general election would give people the chance to make a proper choice. But if that isn't an option, maybe it's time to ask the people what they think through a second referendum.

    "Parliament doesn't support this deal, they won't support this deal. If [the prime minister] won't listen to Parliament, maybe it's time to listen to the people."

  12. Tory MP: UK is 'having its cake and eating it' with this dealpublished at 23:09 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2018

    Brexit Legal Advice Statement

    House of Commons
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    Ed VaizeyImage source, HoC

    Tory MP Ed Vaizey says "it is the right thing to back the withdrawal agreement."

    Mr Vaizey says he has received 200 emails from constituents in the last 24 hours calling for another referendum "but I am going to disappoint them by not endorsing this call".

    "A 'People's Vote' is a complete red herring," he adds. "It would be a humiliation for this Parliament if we go back to the people."

    He says the trouble with the pure Brexiteers "the wreckers who are going to ironically bring down with their pathetic behavior" is that "they had no agreed idea on how Brexit should be".

    "Nothing is ever the Brexiteers' fault, no solution is ever put forward by the Brexiteers," he says.

    Mr Vaizey says "the EU is desperate to let us go" and with this deal "we are having our cake and eating it and we should embrace that".

    He adds that the prime minister "has too often only spoken for the 52%" and that he backs the agreement "because the agreement is the right way forwards, not because I am a fan of the prime minister".

  13. UK 'ignoring the peace dividend' EU has providedpublished at 23:08 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2018

    Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Debate

    House of Commons
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    Douglas ChapmanImage source, HoC

    SNP defence spokesman Douglas Chapman says "the more we learn about the Brexit process, the more we realise that we're going to lose far more than we gain".

    Defence of the UK would be a risk as a result of Brexit, and even more so if no deal is reached, as funding potential would be affected, along with research and development opportunities.

    The benefits of membership cannot be replicated under the proposed deal, he says, but leaving without a deal would have "severe and immediate consequences" for defence.

    "We are are ignoring the peace dividend that we've had for the last several decades."

  14. 'Extremely difficult if not impossible to support deal' - Tory MPpublished at 22:51 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2018

    Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Debate

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    Daniel KawczynskiImage source, HoC

    Tory MP Daniel Kawczynski says he is "convinced" that if there is another referendum "it will give wind to the UKIP sails".

    He says in 30 years time the UK may not have an opt-out of the Eurozeone under this deal.

    Mr Kawczynski says that the attorney general said yesterday that "he could not put a definitive figure" on how much the UK would owe the EU in the case of no deal, but that "he has told me a figure in private".

    He adds that as things stand, he will find it "extremely difficult, if not impossible" to support the deal.

  15. Labour MP calls for Article 50 extension and return to negotiationspublished at 22:50 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2018

    Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Debate

    House of Commons
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    Clive EffordImage source, HoC

    Labour MP Clive Efford says despite voting remain, he has honoured the result of the referendum and went along with plans to leave the EU.

    But those that campaigned for Brexit promised things that it is clear now were unrealistic and untrue. The notion that the UK could "just walk out" from the EU without a deal is "a complete fabrication".

    The PM's deal will be defeated next week, he says, and Parliament must "take back control". The prime minister must stop threatening that leaving without a deal is the only alternative.

    "It's time we started talking to people about how to take this issue forward and I believe we will need to extend Article 50 and return to negotiations with the EU."

  16. Miller promises to support PM's dealpublished at 22:26 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2018

    Brexit Legal Advice Statement

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    Maria MillerImage source, HoC

    Tory MP Maria Miller says she voted for remain and fears the impact of leaving the EU but "we must look for compromise".

    She says the people voted "for a control of our borders and for an end to free movement" but that "nobody voted for uncertainty in our business and threats to our jobs".

    "The option before us at least has some detail behind it," she says, noting that "the catastrophic impact of a no deal Brexit is felt across the House".

    Ms Miller says the deal "delivers far more than the Canada or Norway deals could do" and although it has "risk", she notes that "a trade deal with the EU is to be celebrated".

    She adds that she doesn't buy that the UK will fall into the backstop procedure, and that this is "a faux argument".

    "We should take the option we know most about - the prime minister's deal," she concludes, saying she will be supporting the deal which "is in the best interest of the whole of our country".

  17. Eurosceptic Labour MP says second referendum is the only optionpublished at 22:24 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2018

    Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Debate

    House of Commons
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    Roger GodsiffImage source, HoC

    Labour MP Roger Godsiff says that in 2016 he took the view that it was better to leave the EU, as a "European super state" was not in the "long-term best interests" of the people of Europe.

    However, his constituency disagreed with him - voting remain - so it was his responsibility to represent them and vote not to trigger Article 50.

    The final agreed deal isn't acceptable to his constituents, so he won't be voting for it. He says he doesn't believe a majority will, and therefore there is no alternative but a second referendum.

    He warns however that 70% of Labour MPs represent Leave voting constituencies and he's not convinced that they would vote differently in future. Whatever decision is made, there will be consequences, he says.

  18. Tory MP: 'MPs must vote against ghastly proposal'published at 22:10 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2018

    Brexit Legal Advice Statement

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    Owen PatersonImage source, HoC

    Conservative MP Owen Paterson says "what we have in this document does not deliver".

    "If this passes there will be the most appalling disillusion with our establishment," he adds.

    Calling the deal "a disgrace", Mr Paterson says "Northern Ireland will be under a different regime which is a breach of the act of the Union of 1801."

    "It is a disaster that this has been allowed to happen," he says. "The EU have us trapped in an arrangement where they can impose law on us which can damage our economy and help them earn money."

    Mr Paterson says "we must vote against this ghastly proposal, and the alternative is to go back to Tusk's offer of a wide-ranging free-trade deal that dealt with the Northern Ireland border using existing arrangements."

    He adds that it must be made clear to the EU that the UK is preparing for "what is known as project fear - no deal".

  19. DUP: Theresa May has misjudged mood of country and Commonspublished at 22:02 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2018

    Brexit Withdrawal Agreement Debate

    House of Commons
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    Nigel DoddsImage source, HoC

    The DUP's Westminster Leader Nigel Dodds says "some of the things told to this House during the negotiations have not come to pass" including that "no prime minister would ever allow a customs and regulatory border in Northern Ireland".

    He says "it is simply untrue" to say we are all in a customs union together, and this is "completely unacceptable".

    Mr Dodds says Theresa May assured him that Northern Ireland would leave the customs union with the UK "but these promises are now being broken".

    "There is no get out clause from the withdrawal agreement, it is in the gift of the EU as to when we get out, if we get out and on what terms," he adds.

    He says Theresa May has "misjudged the mood of the country and the mood of the House".

  20. Tory MP: Brexit 'built upon a fantasy'published at 21:51 Greenwich Mean Time 4 December 2018

    Brexit Legal Advice Statement

    House of Commons
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    Dominic GrieveImage source, HoC

    Tory MP Dominic Grieve says he cannot support the deal and "the decision that underpinned Brexit was built upon a fantasy".

    Mr Grieve says the UK is "in the process of putting ourselves in another complex international treaty, only one that is far less advantageous than the one we are leaving".

    He questions where the recovery of sovereignty is in the deal, and states "this document actually restricts it".

    "We cannot be left in a place of dependency without having any participation," he adds.

    Mr Grieve says "a moment's look at the economic analysis suggests that no deal would be plunging the country into chaos for the preference of a tiny minority of this House - that I will not let happen.

    "This is a matter on which the national interest must come first, and this deal is not good for our economy."