Reaction to new Indyref bill

Summary

Nicola Sturgeon announces new independence bill
Bill will be published next week
SNP say it is 'draft legislation' for consultation

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Jo Perry and Colin Bell

More coverage of the Indyref bill announcement on Reporting Scotland and 2016published at 18:21 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
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BBC One Scotland at 18:30: The first minister tells BBC Scotland she feels she may have a "duty" to call a second independence referendum. Brian Taylor reports.
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BBC Two Scotland at 22:30: Andrew Kerr reports on a day at the SNP conference, plus an interview with the SNP's new deputy leader, Angus Robertson.
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Round-up: New Indyref billpublished at 17:59 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
- Nicola Sturgeon announces consultation on plans for second Scottish independence referendum
- Independence Referendum Bill to be published next week
- Marks first step to holding second vote
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Analysis from:
- BBC Scotland political editor Brian Taylor: Winning is all that matters with an Indyref2
- BBC's Scotland editor Sarah Smith: What's Sturgeon's message to Downing Street?
Read the full news story.
Graph showing long-term trend for independence support in Scotlandpublished at 17:31 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
From Mark Diffley, director with Ipsos Mori in Edinburgh
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Analysis: Preparing for a second referendum on Scottish independence and actually holding one are not the same thingpublished at 17:23 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
Glenn Campbell
BBC Scotland Political Correspondent
To be clear, Nicola Sturgeon is in preparation mode. Keeping an option open, rather than committing to indyref2 anytime soon.
Her promise to publish a draft referendum bill next week energises the SNP membership.
Ms Sturgeon hopes it will also concentrate minds in the UK government - to head off a possible referendum with further devolution and a Brexit deal that preserves Scottish links with the EU.
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The SNP wants Holyrood to have new powers over agriculture and fishing, a say on immigration and the ability to make some international agreements.
It also wants Scotland, if not the whole of the UK, to remain inside the European single market.
The more of that that's delivered, the less likely indyref2 during Brexit negotiations becomes.
However, even if none of the SNP's demands are met, another referendum is still not inevitable.
That's because having lost once, Nicola Sturgeon and co. do not want to lose again.
They don't want to call a vote unless they are confident of winning and it would take a further shift in public opinion to convince them of that - a shift they think may come if Brexit looks like a bad deal for Scotland.
Indyref2 bill: What's Sturgeon's message to Downing Street?published at 17:11 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
Sarah Smith
Scotland Editor
It is certainly true that every day since the EU referendum the question is asked when, or if, the SNP's call for Indyref2 - as it's known - might happen.
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For some, the campaign for a second independence referendum was started the day after the first in September 2014
Today Ms Sturgeon made very clear that she is prepared to trigger a second referendum if she feels that is the only way to protect Scotland from what she calls a "hard Brexit imposed by the hard right of the Tory party".
Read more of Sarah Smith's blog here
Watch: Angus Robertson puts the case for a new independence votepublished at 17:03 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
The Moray MP, who was announced as the new party deputy leader said "things have turned on their head" since the EU referendum in June.
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Angus Robertson on the case for Scottish people to get a new independence vote.
PM 'absolutely committed' to engaging with the people of Scotlandpublished at 16:48 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
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She was asked whether she thought the first minister's language this morning at the SNP party conference seemed threatening, she said:
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That's not the way the PM is approaching these matters. Not the kind of language I would use. The PM is approaching both the relationship between the four constituent parts of the UK and our relationship with the EU as we leave in a constructive and engaged spirit that's focused on getting the best interests for the UK whether that is the people of Scotland, England, Wales, Northern Ireland. She will be approaching these negotiations as she is the PM of the UK.
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Watch: Views from Dundee on the chances of a new independence votepublished at 16:42 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
From BBC Daily Politics reporter Adam Fleming
Dundee backed independence in the 2014 vote.
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Views from Dundee on the chances of a fresh IndyRef vote about Scotland leaving the UK.
Analysis: Winning is all that matters with an Indyref2published at 16:31 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
Brian Taylor
BBC Scotland Political Editor
She is adamant that she didn't mean it. The little dry gibe, seemingly about Alex Salmond, that is. You remember? When Nicola Sturgeon was talking about the sundry items of advice which come her way, unbidden? Yes, that.
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How soon will there be a second independence referendum?
What she intended to say was: "There's not a day that passes just now without someone advising me to hurry up with a referendum." Except she said: "SOMEONE." With unwarranted emphasis.
Read more of Brian's analysis here.
Your views: 'Calling for another independence vote, on the back of the brexit vote is totally undemocratic'published at 16:09 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
A selection of your views on the news that a consultation will begin next week for a second referendum on Scottish independence.
Even if this is successful (and Scots vote for independence) it still requires a vote of the London parliament to repeal the 1707 Act of Union. As long as Scotland is part of the UK it cannot be admitted back into the EU - the Brexit process could take years - and it can't be assumed that the EU would necessarily allow Scotland back in immediately.
Luke Bull
This is a decision for the people of Scotland. It makes absolutely no difference to the rUK if Scotland decides to leave or remain in the UK. However, as we are hearing from the EU, out means out. No fiscal union, no free access to rUK markets, no right to live and work in the UK.
Cupcake
Calling for another independence vote, on the back of the brexit vote is totally undemocratic, The Scottish nationalist should be reminded that the EU vote was a British vote and should be seen in that context
jaygee1010
In 2014, 71% of the 16 and 17 years old voted for independence, whilst 73% of those over 65 voted to remain in the UK. This is a considerable advantage for the SNP if the next vote happens in 2018 or 2019.
Eastern European
Scotland needs to get on with it and become a normal country with its own place in the world. You have to admit, the current set-up is pretty demeaning for Scots.
alphawest
'Bespoke solution needed to keep Scotland in Europe'published at 15:52 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
The World at One
BBC Radio 4
As Scotland's first minister, Nicola Sturgeon announces a new independence referendum bill, her deputy calls for the UK government to work on a "bespoke plan" to keep Scotland in Europe.
Angus Robertson, the newly appointed deputy leader of the Scottish National Party told BBC Radio 4's The World at One programme that because 62% of the voters in Scotland voted to remain in the EU, his party will be looking for ways to work with the UK Government to make that happen.
He also said if the only solution was to have a second referendum, then the Scottish government would be willing to do that.
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Deputy leader of SNP says a bespoke solution with UK Government needed to remain in Europe
Postpublished at 15:46 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
From BBC Scotland political report at the SECC in Glasgow
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Prime minister's spokeswoman says SNP should focus on 'working together' to get best EU dealpublished at 15:31 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
A spokeswoman for Theresa May has said the SNP's focus should instead be on "working together as a union, as a United Kingdom, to get the best deal as we leave the European Union".
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He comments follow Nicola Sturgeon's speech at the SNP conference in Glasgow in which she said a consultation would begin next week on legislation for a second Scottish independence referendum.
The SNP leader said Scots should have the ability to reconsider the issue in light of the vote for Brexit and "to do so before the UK leaves the EU".
'Nicola Sturgeon has got the David Cameron problem...'published at 15:22 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
MSPs react to news of consultation on new referendum.
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In pictures: Delegates react to the news of a consultation on a second independence referendumpublished at 15:04 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
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Delegates enjoy the atmosphere at the SNP conference in Glasgow
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Newly elected party deputy Angus Robertson leans in towards Nicola Sturgeon
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Delegates react to news of consultation on second independence referendum
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Nicola Sturgeon enjoys the applause on stage at the SECC in Glasgow during the SNP conference
Scottish Greens: 'Independence may be Scotland's best hope of remaining in EU'published at 14:54 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
The Scottish Greens have welcomed Nicola Sturgeon's announcement of a consultation on a new referendum bill.
A spokesman for the party said: "Independence may be Scotland's best hope of remaining in the EU, and it's right that preparations are made and the case continues to be built.
"The Scottish Greens look forward to the consultation on the proposed Independence Referendum Bill."
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Your views: 'IndyRef2.. ya dancer.. canny wait to tick that YES box again'published at 14:37 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
A selection of your views on the news that a consultation will begin next week for a second referendum on Scottish independence.
So, if there is another referendum and Scotland does vote for independence that will be 1 - 1, will there then be a 3rd referendum so there is a clear winner? Away goals will count double, failing that it will go to penalties.
Claude Balls
The EU vote was in or out. No option on soft or hard exit. Out was voted for so out it should be. Scotland are not independent so are legally obliged to follow the UK vote.
nomnom
Scotland if you truly want independence you will not join the EU after leaving UK. I'd rather not see you split from us, but i sure as hell don't want you getting stuck in the undemocratic EU empire. Stay out, like we are. Hopefully the rest of Europe will wake up.
jhkg
To everyone (ruth as well) how can you say no appetite for a 2nd referendum? You are only taking into account half the population. You are only speaking for roughly 50% of people. Not just the unionists. remember there was 45% at the last count. that has risen! So yes there is clearly people wanting this. But the unionists cant see past the tory rhetoric!
weasel
IndyRef2.. ya dancer.. canny wait to tick that YES box again. Can't wait either to see the Unionist Parties and the BBC tie themselves in knots and contradict themselves at every turn trying to explain how every 'Scare Story' re economy, trade, higher shopping bills, plunging pound is good for Brexit but BAD for Independence.
BrianW
Poll suggests 'hard Brexit' would convince 12% of those opposed to second Indyref to change their mindpublished at 14:17 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
The survey by BMG of 1,000 people, carried out between 29 September and 3 October, found 47% respondents were against another vote, with 38% in favour and 15% unsure.
When asked about a hard Brexit where Britain would leave the single market, 12% said that result would sway them towards wanting another independence referendum.
Alistair Carmichael calls on first minister to take independence off the tablepublished at 14:09 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
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John Swinney urges members to keep their eyes on the 'prize'published at 14:01 British Summer Time 13 October 2016
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