Summary

  • An hour-long Sunday Show with Martin Geissler this week featured interviews with Scotland's smaller parties

  • Patrick Harvie, co-leader of the Scottish Greens, tells the programme a critical part of political change is to raise tax on the "super rich"

  • Alba leader Alex Salmond says his party "unambiguously" believes in independence and he reckons it will "do great" in the election on 4 July

  • Reform UK's Helen McDade rejects the claim that her party is racist. "We have too much immigration, that is nothing to do with race," she says

  • Campaigning on Sunday will see SNP leader John Swinney will be in Paisley meeting voters; Scottish Labour's Ian Murray will be in Edinburgh and the Scottish Tories in Perth

  • The Scottish Lib Dems are due to discuss cutting red tape to improve the economy

  1. Goodbyepublished at 13:21 British Summer Time 9 June

    That's all from The Sunday Show live page team for today.

    Join us again next Sunday morning for the next in our series of leader interviews.

    In the meantime, you can keep up to date with all the latest election news on the BBC Scotland website.

    Your writers today were Craig Hutchison and Jonathan Geddes. The page was edited by Claire Diamond.

  2. The Sunday Show: The headlinespublished at 13:13 British Summer Time 9 June

    If you're just joining us here's a reminder of the headlines from this week's Sunday Show on BBC One Scotland:

    • Patrick Harvie says his party's goal is to win their first Westminster seat in Scotland
    • The co-leader of the Scottish Greens said other parties were running away from any form of raising tax and said his party's wealth tax could raise up to £120bn for public services
    • Harvie wanted to move away from oil and gas "as quickly as possible" and argues the climate change targets scrapped by the Scottish government were "certainly achievable"
    • Harvie said he had "mixed feelings" over protests that have forced three Scottish book festivals to lose sponsorship, adding they were a "soft target"
    • Alex Salmond told the programme his party, Alba, had "excellent chances" in a number of seats
    • The Alba leader insisted his party would mobilise independence voters who he claimed were not going to vote for the SNP
    • He criticised Douglas Ross for stabbing David Duguid in the back and warned he would get his comeuppance at the election
    • Salmond argued Alba believes "unambiguously in independence" and accuses the SNP of avoiding the constitutional issue
    • Helen McDade said net zero was not working and that "we're just importing our carbon emissions"
    • The Scottish leader of Reform UK argued "there was too much immigration"
    • She said the health service would remain free at the point of use, but those who could afford it would be expected to have insurance which they would be given tax breaks for
    • Asked about Reform's plans to cut 5% of public spending, McDade was unable to answer how many jobs this would cost

  3. Latest poll shows Labour ahead of the SNP by 10 pointspublished at 13:05 British Summer Time 9 June

    Prof Ailsa Henderson, of Edinburgh University, said there's a 10 point gap between Labour and the SNP in Scotlad.

    She told the Sunday Show on Radio Scotland that the most recent Scottish poll, by Redfield and Wilton, but Labour on 39, the SNP on 29, the Conservatives are on 17, and the Lib Dems on 8.

    She said: "I think we're looking at around 32 Labour seats in Scotland, 15 SNP and then five each for the Conservatives and Lib Dems."

    She says in Scotland Reform are polling at 4%, just 1% ahead of the Scottish Greens, but that was before Nigel Farage had announced he was standing.

  4. Flynn attacks Labour's North Sea windfall tax planspublished at 12:42 British Summer Time 9 June

    Earlier this morning the SNP's Westminster leader Stephen Flynn was interviewed by the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg.

    He attacked Labour's North Sea windfall tax plans and vowed his party was committed to a "just and sustainable" future for the oil and gas sector.

    Mr Flynn said Labour's proposal for a time-limited windfall tax on fossil fuel companies would result in "100,000 job losses".

    He said the Tory position was to "act like oil and gas will last forever".

    Sir Keir Starmer wants to raise the windfall tax on fossil fuel firms from 75% of excess profits to 78% while also extending it to 2029.

  5. Reform's immigration stance 'nothing to do with race'published at 12:36 British Summer Time 9 June

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    Reform's immigration stance 'nothing to do with race'

    Asked about Reform UK's policies on immigration, the party's leader in Scotland Helen McDade said: "We are a broad church, and we are saying there is too much immigration and it has nothing to do with race.

    "It's to do with people coming in who we have not said, 'we have skills in this'."

    She said her party would let in people the country needed, for example those we needed to work in health and social care.

  6. Elections are route to independence - Salmondpublished at 12:25 British Summer Time 9 June

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    Elections are route to independence - Salmond

    Alex Salmond, leader of the Alba party, told The Sunday Show he believed every national election should be defined as a mandate for independence.

    He said pro-independence parties should make this the top issue for voters during the campaign, adding that you cannot claim it was a mandate for independence after the election.

    "The SNP have decided to take independence off the ballot paper," he added.

    He said if there was a majority vote for independence parties, it should be treated as a democratic mandate in the Scottish Parliament to begin proceedings.

    Then he said national and international pressure should be increased in order to bend Westminster to the will of the Scottish people.

  7. Harvie's 'mixed feelings' on book festival protestspublished at 12:20 British Summer Time 9 June

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    Ditching book festival sponsors 'a soft target' - Harvie

    Earlier Patrick Harvie told The Sunday Show he had "mixed feelings" about protesters targeting book festivals.

    Sponsor Ballie Gifford has cancelled their deals with three Scottish festivals, and others across the UK, as a result of campaigners angry about their links to fossil fuel services and to companies that support Israel in the ongoing war in Gaza.

    This has led to concerns that the festivals will struggle financially in the future.

    Harvie said that the campaign "hasn't worked" as Ballie Gifforrd have not divested their links, and that there is a "danger" that the focus has been on targeting so-called 'soft targets'.

  8. Your Voice, Your Vote: What Scots want from the electionpublished at 12:14 British Summer Time 9 June

    Liam and Ellie Valentine
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    Liam Valentine, pictured with baby Ellie, worries about his the future for his children

    Before the country heads to the polls on 4 July, BBC Scotland News has been asking voters what matters to them.

    As part of our Your Voice, Your Vote series, we have been listening to the issues causing the most concern in communities up and down the country.

    This week, our reporters ventured to Orkney, Aberdeenshire, Tayside, North Lanarkshire and Fife to ask people what was going to influence their vote.

    Read more here.

  9. Would you like to be in the audience of the Scottish leaders' debate?published at 12:08 British Summer Time 9 June

    Stephen Jardine

    Next week sees the Scottish party leaders go head-to-head in a Debate Night special programme.

    Hosted by Stephen Jardine, it'll feature the leaders of five Scottish parties.

    If you want to go along and put questions to the party leaders, full details on how to apply are available here.

    The programme will be broadcast at 20:00 on Tuesday.

  10. Analysis

    Parties challenged about campaigning - or lack of - for independencepublished at 12:02 British Summer Time 9 June

    Georgia Roberts
    BBC Scotland political correspondent

    Alex Salmond sees the SNP campaign as lacking when it comes to independence, which he thinks should be the “defining issue”.

    Earlier this morning Stephen Flynn was being challenged on this too by the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg; he barely mentioned independence in the BBC’s seven party debate on Friday night.

    Mr Flynn, the party’s Westminster leader, said that it’s a general election so they need to focus on the biggest issues in Westminster, like the cost of living.

    But many would also say it’s the first election in some time in Scotland where the constitutional question is not necessarily on the top of the party’s agenda “unambiguously”, as Salmond says.

    There are certainly some SNP MPs who have become inpatient with a seeming lack of progress on the indepednece agenda, simultaneously noting that voters are turning their attention to public services like the NHS rather than the constitution.

    Fighting against a resurgent Labour, focusing on so-called “bread and butter issues” as opposed to an independence referendum that isn’t surfacing any time soon many SNP MPs see as giving them a better chance of surviving this election, which could well prove difficult after a turbulent time for the party.

    Alex Salmond doesn’t appear to share that view. We’ll soon find out who’s right.

  11. How are the polls changing?published at 11:57 British Summer Time 9 June

    The Sunday Show hears from pollster Mark Diffley.

    Diffley turns to the four polls that have been published since the general election was called.

    He says somewhere between 20 to 25% of people polled who say they support independence plan to vote Labour in this election.

    Support for independence remains at around 50%.

    With regard to the Scottish Greens, he says they are polling at around 10% - at least as well as they did at the last Holyrood election.

    He says their party profile has increased as a result of they power sharing deal they were involved in for a time with the SNP Scottish government.

    He says Reform have "hit new heights", since Nigel Farage announced his decision to stand, in UK wide polls.

    "They've been polling up to 17%," he adds.

    In Scotland, Reform UK are polling around 4%, much lower than in the rest of the UK, he notes.

    The Alba party are polling between 1% and 2% in the general election, and their impact in this election will be marginal, Mr Diffley predicts.

  12. What do the latest polls tell us?published at 11:35 British Summer Time 9 June

    The polls are a survey of people's intended vote when the 4 July election rolls around.Because polls don't survey everyone in the country, it would be wrong to say they indicate exactly how an election will play out.But, it can be useful to give a sense of how public opinion is trending.You can check the BBC's poll tracker here.

  13. On this week's panel...published at 11:27 British Summer Time 9 June

    panel

    Martin Geissler is joined this morning by three panellists to analyse the week's news and the interviews we've been listening to. They are:

    • Chris Stark, Carbon Trust Chief Executive
    • Talat Yaqoob, writer and equality campaigner
    • Dougal Sharp, Innis & Gunn founder

    Dougal Sharp says that the priority for parties "needs to be changing the status quo", pointing to creating jobs, schools and hospitals.

    He says there should be "more momentum" from parties on those matters and it is leading to an unengaged electorate.

    He feels net zero is a "defining issue of our times".

    Talat Yaqoob says that Alex Salmond was "managing expectations" regarding Alba's aims for the election.

    She adds that the Alba leader was "unable to talk about policy" and kept returning to independence rather than discussing topics such as poverty.

    She feels the collapse of the Bute House Agreement has given the Greens a head-start on other parties, while she is critical of Reform's campaigning on immigration.

    Chris Stark says it was "striking" that the leaders did not discuss policy much, and that it was "disappointing".

    He would like to hear more "passion" and policy details about Scotland's future.

    He was unimpressed with McDade, saying there was a lot of "incoherence" in her statements, and that he didn't recognise any of the numbers being cited by her with regards to saving £30bn through scrapping net zero funding.

  14. A look at this morning's front pagespublished at 11:24 British Summer Time 9 June

    Newspaper front pages from June 9

    As the panel discuss the week, it's time for a quick look at the political news making headlines on the front of Scotland's Sunday newspapers.

    First Minister John Swinney has told the Herald on Sunday that he would be willing to work with Labour if they take power on 4 July. He also strongly criticised the Tory government, saying the Scotland Office had been "working against" Scotland in recent years.

    The Sunday Post reports on experts criticising Labour's energy proposals as not making sense, while the Sunday National says a think tank has revealed the "true scale" of the party's savings plans, resulting in public service job cuts.

    Meanwhile, Tory leader Douglas Ross is accused by the Sunday Mail of trying to cover up "dodgy" expense claims relating to his work as a linesman at football matches.

    You can see the front pages from the Scottish papers here.

  15. McDade denies Reform would axe Holyroodpublished at 11:21 British Summer Time 9 June

    McDade denies that Reform UK want to scrap Holyrood, but says the party is looking at "constitutional reform".

    She cites the system not having a "revising chamber" as leading to "very difficult things".

    She claims cross-party committees often do good work, but are then "put out of the way", pointing to planning matters as an example of this.

  16. Analysis

    Will Reform UK make an impact in Scotland?published at 11:13 British Summer Time 9 June

    Andrew Kerr
    BBC Scotland political correspondent

    Reform UK are standing an impressive 57 candidates in Scotland in this general election.

    That's every constituency - and that's not matched by the other smaller parties.

    Nigel Farage burst on to the political scene (again) last week.

    His communication skills command a lot of the media's attention - and Mr Farage claims his party will replace the Conservatives as the opposition to Labour.

    However, the accusation is that Reform UK is merely a vehicle for the leader.

    Helen McDade from Reform UK attempted to set out the party's policies - their concerns about high levels of immigration, the need to reform the health service and the Scottish Parliament.

    Reform UK is an unusual political party. It's very much dominated by a figure at the top.

    Progress in Scotland could cost the Scottish Conservatives a little - but progress in England could cost the UK Conservative party a lot more.

  17. 'There is too much immigration' - Reform UKpublished at 11:10 British Summer Time 9 June

    Martin Geissler turns to the key issue of immigration and says some people find Reform UK's policies difficult and "offensive".

    Helen McDade warns Martin to be "careful what you say" as they have candidates who worry about their safety because of the way they are portrayed.

    "We are a broad church, and we are saying there is too much immigration and it has nothing to do with race.

    "It's to do with people coming in who we have not said, 'we have skills in this'."

    She says her party will let in the people that the country needs, for example those working in health and social care.

    When challenged about the party's policies for the health service, she said it would remain free at the point of use but that those who can afford it would be expected to have insurance which they would be given tax breaks towards.

    Ms McDade said if people could not get an appointment within a certain time they would be given a voucher for private treatment.

    She did not answer how much this policy would cost but said it would be cheaper for tax payers than the current arrangements.

    Asked about Reform's plans to cut 5% of public spending, she could not answer how many jobs this would cost but insisted the plans had been costed, she just did not know "that particular cost".

  18. 'The net zero that we're doing is not working' - McDadepublished at 11:08 British Summer Time 9 June

    Helen McDade is the Scottish leader of Reform UK.

    After they discuss her background, Martin Geissler says that Reform UK does not strike him as a natural home for her.

    Ms McDade replies she has a lifetime of experience and has worked with environmental organisations.

    She points out that she has noticed environmental rhetoric change: "The net zero that we're doing is not working. It is not helping bring down global emissions."

    "We're losing our steel industry, our oil industry. We're just importing our carbon emissions.

    "We must have our own economy," she adds.

  19. Who is Helen McDade?published at 11:05 British Summer Time 9 June

    Helen McDade is Reform UK's leader in ScotlandImage source, Helen McDade
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    Helen McDade is Reform UK's leader in Scotland

    It's now the turn of Helen McDade, of Reform UK, to be interviewed.

    She is the party's leader in Scotland.

    She grew up in the far north of Scotland has lived in rural Perthshire for the last twenty years, working locally for most of that time - apart from a year working in Kent.

    She qualified in Edinburgh as a veterinary surgeon and worked as one for a number of years.

    Ms McDade has also worked to design policies for environmental charities including WWF and the John Muir Trust.

    Once she had children she helped in a family business and then campaigned at the Scottish Parliament on a health issue - seeking improved treatment and support for people with MS.

    Reform UK was once known as the Brexit Party.

    It was launched by Nigel Farage after the UK voted to leave the UK.

  20. Analysis

    How well will Alba do in this election?published at 11:03 British Summer Time 9 June

    Georgia Roberts
    BBC Scotland political correspondent

    Alba – who recently celebrated their third birthday – are realistic about their chances of getting a seat at Westminster in this election (incredibly low).

    For them, it’s about the longer game.

    The party see this election as a means to build a strong foundation for the 2026 Holyrood election, where they’re hoping to make real gains and where leader Alex Salmond is standing.

    In this election, a strong showing in particular in the constituencies where two former MPs who defected to the party are standing as candidates will be welcomed.

    In total the party are standing 19 candidates across Scotland.

    That’s less than Reform UK, who are standing in every seat.

    Alba want to present themselves as the fresh alternative to the SNP when it comes to independence.

    For them, the message is clear; elections, not referendums – another of which doesn’t seem to be on the cards anytime soon – are the way to achieve independence.