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  • The Health Committee heard evidence from parents affected by the baby ashes scandal, as it considered the Burial and Cremation Bill

  • The government's response to the flooding in Scotland and the progress being made on the Forth Road Bridge were in today's topical questions

  • Nicola Sturgeon led a debate entitled 'Supporting Public Services, Tackling Inequality and Growing Scotland’s Economy'

  • The importance of the Celtic rainforest was highlighted in the member's debate

  1. Delayed discharge figures reducingpublished at 11:27

    Committee Convener Duncan McNeil says those who support the health secretary's budget are sometimes stumped by the spending announcements.

    Mr McNeil says A&E budgets are an example and asks why certain services don't yet know their budgets ahead of April.

    Committee Convener Duncan McNeil

    Health Secretary Shona Robison says they will know their budgets before April.

    Ms Robison says the number of delayed discharge cases is reducing and that health boards can almost name each case now which is a major improvement.

    She says it is now much safer for A&E patients to be treated within the four hour target. 

  2. Budget to prioritise areas of spend - Health Secretarypublished at 11:14

    SNP MSP Bob Doris says the issue surrounding GP practices and services is often down to recruitment retention.

    Health Secretary Shona Robison says the budget is trying to prioritise areas of spend. 

    Health Secretary Shona Robison

    Ms Robison says there is an additional £25m in primary care funding which will take the total funding in 2016/17 to £45m.

    She says health care inequalities is very much a priority and the resource allocation formula should reflect this.  

  3. Resource must work to create a step change in the delivery of social carepublished at 11:05

    The health secretary says she is very clear that "the resource must work to create a step change in the delivery of social care".

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    Mr Chisholm says Audit Scotland says there is a risk integration authorities may see a reduction of their funding. 

    Ms Robison says with integration and the legislation and requirements there is a responsibility for local authorities to let the public see the investment goes to the right places.

  4. Funding will deliver a real change in the progress of eradicating delayed dischargepublished at 11;01

    Ms Robison says the funding of £250m will deliver a real change in the progress of eradicating delayed discharge.

  5. £250m must make a significant improvement to the delivery of social carepublished at 11:00

    Labour MSP Malcolm Chisholm says everyone was pleased about the £250m for social care.

    Mr Chisholm asks how can we ensure the full amount is spent on social care.

    Health Secretary Shona Robison

    Health Secretary Shona Robison says the £250m must make a significant improvement to the delivery of social care.  

  6. Background: Health measures in the draft Budget 2016-17published at 10:58 Greenwich Mean Time 5 January 2016

    In December Finance Secretary John Swinney unveiled his draft budget to MSPs in the Scottish Parliament.

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    The measures detailed included: 

    • £200m to be invested over the next five years in six new NHS treatment centres 
    • An extra £45m next year to fund improvements and develop new models of primary health care

  7. Draft budget implications for the NHS now consideredpublished at 10:57

    Health Secretary Shona Robison will now give evidence on the draft Budget 2016-17. 

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    The health secretary will be joined by NHSScotland chief executive Paul Gray, and Chief Medical Officer Dr Catherine Calderwood and John Matheson from the Scottish government.  

  8. MSPs unanimously back the General Dental Council (Fitness to Practise etc.) Order 2015 (draft)published at 10:56

    MSPs unanimously back the  General Dental Council (Fitness to Practise etc.) Order 2015 (draft),

  9. General Dental Council (Fitness to Practise etc.) Order 2015 (draft)published at 10:47

    Health Secretary Shona Robison says the General Dental Council (Fitness to Practise etc.) Order 2015 (draft),

    Health Secretary Shona Robison

    Ms Robison says changes are being made to the General Dental Council's registration which is the reason for this order.  

  10. MSPs will now consider the Food Information (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Scotland) Regulations 2015published at 10:42

    MSPs will now consider the Food Information (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Scotland) Regulations 2015 (SSI 2015/410). 

    Health and Sport Committee

    The committee will then take evidence from Health Secretary Shona Robison on the General Dental Council (Fitness to Practise etc.) Order 2015 (draft). 

    Ailsa Garland and Jason Birch from the Scottish government will also give evidence. 

  11. 'The government needs to get this right'published at 10:39

    Health Committee convener Duncan McNeil thanks Willie Reid and Ann McMurray from SANDS and says he regrets Cheryl Buchanan was unable to attend.

    Willie Reid and Ann McMurray

    Mr Reid says the government needs to get this right and failure to do so will give a trauma that no other parent should have to do. 

    The Health Committee suspends briefly. 

  12. If hospitals have contracts with funeral directors then there should be records of each casepublished at 10:32

    Ann McMurray of SANDS says it would be up to a health professional to update a bereaved parent's records after meeting with them.

    Ann McMurray of SANDS

    Ms McMurray says there should be a record that the bereaved parent has been given information on funeral directors.

    She says if the hospital has a contract with a funeral directors then there should be a mechanism to keep a record of these conversations.  

  13. It is important records of cremations of babies are kept and available to bereaved parentspublished at 10:24

    Ann McMurray, Stillbirth and Neonatal Death Charity Scotland (SANDS) agrees that it is important records of cremations of babies are kept and available to bereaved parents. 

  14. Background: Mortonhall baby ashes memorial opens at crematoriumpublished at 10:22 Greenwich Mean Time 5 January 2016

    A memorial to infants at the centre of the Mortonhall baby ashes scandal has been opened in Edinburgh. 

    The garden sits in the grounds of the crematorium, and includes specially designed plaques inscribed with the names of 149 babies. 

    A memorial to infants at the centre of the Mortonhall baby ashes

    It was created as one of the recommendations in the report by Dame Elish Angiolini in January 2013. 

    A second memorial is also proposed, in Princes Street Gardens, as some parents do not want to return to Mortonhall.  

  15. Registers and inspections of undertakers requiredpublished at 10:20

    SNP MSP Richard Lyle asks what is not in the bill that Mr Reid thinks should be there.

    Mr Reid says registers should be kept with names of the undertakers involved.

    He also says there should be random inspections to ensure undertakers are following procedures properly.

  16. 'I'll go to my grave never knowing what happened to my daughter's ashes'published at 10:17

    Health Committee convener Duncan McNeil asks:  "Should the role of funeral directors be set out clearly in the bill."

    "Yes, I think so." says Mr Reid.

    He says there has been nobody put in a court of law over the baby ashes scandal.

    "I'll go to my grave never knowing what happened to my daughter's ashes."

    The person responsible for that is "walking around scot-free", says Mr Reid.

  17. The death of a baby is perceived completely differently todaypublished at 10:13

    Willie Reid says the death of a baby is perceived completely differently today than 20 years ago.

    Willie Reid

    Mr Reid says at Mortonhall in Edinburgh alone there were 153 cases where the procedure was gotten wrong.

    He says the grief is better dealt with at the time of bereavement than years down the line. 

  18. Willie Reid says it is essential to maximise the recovery of ashespublished at 10:08

    Willie Reid says it is essential to maximise the recovery of ashes and it is important to stress this positive aspect.

  19. SANDS says there are concerns there is no regulation of funeral directorspublished at 10:06

    Ann McMurray from SANDS says there are concerns there is no regulation of funeral directors.

    She says the loss of a baby is simply unthinkable for everyone, it is not something parents ever get over.

    Ann McMurray from SANDS

    Ms McMurray says parents need compassion and caring from whosoever is giving them information. 

    The bill states ashes is everything that remains after the last flame of cremation, which should allow the collection of ashes from almost every baby who is cremated. 

  20. Background: Why were bereaved parents denied baby ashes?published at 10:06 Greenwich Mean Time 5 January 2016

    A report , externalinto the baby ashes scandal at Mortonhall crematorium in Edinburgh was published by the city council in 2014. 

    Former Lord Advocate Dame Elish Angiolini carried out the investigation into the cremation of babies at the council-run crematorium over a period of 40 years.

    In December 2012 bereavement charity Sands Lothian revealed that the cremated ashes of stillborn babies or infants who had died within days of birth had been buried without parents' knowledge at Mortonhall. 

    This had happened for more than four decades, until a change of management the previous year, and involved hundreds of babies. 

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    The scandal was first uncovered by Dorothy Maitland, whose daughter Kaelen was cremated at Edinburgh's Mortonhall 25 years ago

    The charity discovered that Edinburgh's privately-run crematoriums - Seafield and Warriston - both gave ashes to parents no matter how tiny the child.

    But the council-run Mortonhall had always told grieving parents there would be nothing to scatter after the cremation of their babies. 

    Sands (Stillbirth and neonatal death society) discovered that, despite telling parents there were no ashes, the remains of cremated babies were being secretly buried in the crematorium's garden of remembrance. 

     The practice could have been going on since the facility opened in 1967 until 2011. 

    In 2013 a BBC investigation looked at the policies across Scotland and found ashes were not returned in any of Aberdeen's baby cremations since 2008, while in Inverness 100% were returned.