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  • Deputy First Minister John Swinney gave evidence to the Devolution Committee on the fiscal framework negotiations

  • The first minister gave a statement on the fiscal framework negotiations and returned to announce a deal had finally been struck

  • The Devolution Committee gathered again to hear from Scottish Secretary David Mundell on the fiscal framework deal

  1. SHRC work 'very encouraging'published at 15:03 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    SNP MSP Christine Grahame says it is "very encouraging" to see how the work of the Scottish Human Rights Commission is influencing the lives of constituents.

    Ms Grahame says the Scottish National Action Plan for Human Rights (SNAP) has done much but must ensure human rights are successfully embedded into the fabric of Scotland's society, if they have not already done so.

  2. Background: What is SNAP?published at 15:03 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    Scotland's National Action Plan for Human Rights, external was launched on 10 Decemember 2013, marking International Human Rights Day. 

    Following four years of research and partnership working, led by the Scottish Human Rights Commission, it sets out a bold roadmap towards a Scotland where everyone can live with human dignity, where international human rights are realised in people's lives. 

    SNAP is the first National Action Plan for human rights in any part of the UK.

    SNAP website homepageImage source, SNAP

    It is based on experience from other European and Commonwealth countries, as well as guidance from the United Nations and the Council of Europe. 

    SNAP was developed by a Drafting Group drawn from the public and voluntary sectors. 

    An Advisory Council of members reflecting Scottish civic life oversaw the process. 

    SNAP aims to build a better human rights culture, help improve people's lives through human rights and contribute to a better world by giving effect to Scotland's international human rights obligations. 

  3. Human rights 'very practical and relevant to the every day'published at 15:00 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    The Justice Committee convener says human rights must not be viewed as esoteric, but "very practical and relevant to the every day".

  4. Praise for Professor Alan Millerpublished at 14:58 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    Ms Grahame commends Professor Alan Miller, who is standing down as the chair of the Scottish Human Rights Commission, for his commitment for driving forward human rights in Scotland.

  5. Background: National Action Plan for Human Rightspublished at 14:58 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    Scotland's National Action Plan for Human Rights was launched in Scotland in 2013. 

    The plan was developed after four years of research by the Scottish Human Rights Commission. 

    It aims to improve human rights protection in Scotland. 

    Professor Alan Miller
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    Professor Alan Miller has been chair of the Scottish Human Rights Commission since 2007

    The commission's evidence suggested basic rights are not consistently promoted, respected or protected in people's every day lives. 

    The Scottish government, the NHS, Amnesty International and various other organisations including trade unions and local authorities were involved in creating the action plan. 

  6. That ends the statement on the fiscal frameworkpublished at 14:56 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    That ends the statement on the fiscal framework from the first minister.   

  7. Background: No detriment principle 'is unworkable'published at 14:54 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    The principle of "no detriment" contained in the Smith Commision devolution agreement is unworkable in practice, a leading economist has said.

    The agreement states that neither the UK or Scottish governments should suffer financially from policy decisions made by the other once the new powers come into force.

    Prof David Bell
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    Prof David Bell has acted as an economic adviser to both the Scottish and UK governments

    But Prof David Bell said it had "huge potential for dispute".

    And he said no similar principle was in place anywhere else in the world.

    Prof Bell was speaking to MSPs on Holyrood's Devolution (Further Powers) Committee as representatives of the two governments met in London for further talks on the fiscal framework that will underpin the Scotland Bill.

  8. No detriment transitional period on the tablepublished at 14:53 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    Ms Sturgeon says until recently all of the UK government's proposals would have not met the no detriment policy.

    Nicola Sturgeon

    There is now a proposal on the table of a transitional period with no detriment and the potential of a review.

  9. First minister says she wants full scrutiny of the dealpublished at 14:50 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    Green MSP Alison Johnstone asks if parliament will be able to properly scrutinise the fiscal framework and the Scotland Bill.

    Green MSP Alison Johnstone

    Ms Sturgeon says she wants parliament to be able to scrutinise all aspects of the deal.

  10. 'There are no sides in this, only Scotland's side'published at 14:48 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    SNP MSP Alex Salmond says can he join the Scottish Labour party in giving his full support.

    SNP MSP Alex Salmond

    "There are no sides in this, only Scotland's side."

    Mr Salmond questions David Cameron's delivery of his vow thus far.

  11. Transitional period for no detriment principlepublished at 14:46 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    Ms Sturgeon says there has been progress allowing a transitional period with the no detriment principle she says, but there should be no time limit on that.

  12. First minister says review must not be prejudged or prejudiced in advancepublished at 14:44 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    Scottish Lib Dem leader Willie Rennie asks why the first minister is asking Scotland to abandon her own model of a five year review.

    Scottish Lib Dem leader Willie Rennie

    Ms Sturgeon says a review must not be prejudged or prejudiced in advance.

  13. Barnett formula was the vowpublished at 14:42 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    The first minister says continuation of the Barnett formula was the promise that was made and blazed across the Daily Record.

    Daily Record 'The Vow' front pageImage source, Daily Record
  14. If there is no deal it is 'incumbent on the prime minister to step in'published at 14:41 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    Devolution Committee convener Bruce Crawford asks if David Cameron should get more involved in these negotiations.

    Devolution Committee convener Bruce Crawford
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    Devolution Committee convener Bruce Crawford

    Ms Sturgeon says she hopes the Scottish government can reach agreement with the Treasury.

    The first minister says she thinks it is "incumbent on the prime minister to step in" and deliver the promise he made, if a deal is not forthcoming. 

  15. First minister says she will not compromise on the no detriment principlepublished at 14:38 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson says the chancellor is hoping to speak to the first minister as soon as possible.

    Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson

    With agreement within touching distance, says Ms Davidson, will the first minister look for compromise on the issue of a review.

    The first minister says she will not compromise on the no detriment principle.

  16. Scrutiny is keypublished at 14:36 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    Ms Sturgeon says the time for scrutiny is key and time is running out.

    Additional proposals from the treasury have been received in the last hour, she says.

  17. Labour call for Scottish government to 'stay at the table' for a dealpublished at 14:35 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    Labour MSP Alex Rowley says his party supports the first minister fully in these negotiations.

    "We stand behind Barnett and Scotland."

    Labour MSP Alex Rowley

    He calls for assurance that the first minster will stay at the table for as long as necessary. 

    Ms Sturgeon says she and the deputy first minister are willing to do so.

  18. Analysis: What has been the most contentious issue?published at 14:33 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    Glenn Campbell
    BBC Scotland Political Correspondent

    How to adjust Holyrood's block grant from the Treasury to take into account the new tax and spending responsibilities - that's the biggie!

    The more money raised directly in Scotland, the less the devolved government needs from UK resources (which include Scottish contributions).

    So, when Holyrood's tax powers grow, its grant from the Treasury is cut accordingly.

    Pound coinsImage source, JohnDWilliams

    This is achieved by tweaking the Barnett formula, which determines Scotland's share of UK spending.

    That's relatively straightforward in the first year. The amount of tax that's expected to be generated in Scotland is deducted from the block grant.

    For future years, a system of indexation is needed to reflect changing economic circumstances.

    Finding indexation arrangements that both sides are happy with is easier said than done.

  19. Call for talks with David Cameronpublished at 14:33 Greenwich Mean Time 23 February 2016

    The first minister says: "I am writing today to David Cameron to suggest that - if agreement cannot be reached with the Treasury - he and I should seek to resolve the matter directly."

    Nicola Sturgeon and David Cameron

    "I will not sign up to a systematic cut to Scotland's budget - whether that cut is being applied today or by a pre-judged review in five years’ time."

    The first minister says she is seeking to secure, even at this eleventh hour, a deal that is fair to Scotland and that lives up to the promise that was made to the Scottish people.