Summary

  • The UK's Works and Pension Secretary, Damien Green, is quizzed by MSPs on the Social Security Committee

  • The local devolution agenda, disability benefits and missing persons are all raised during general questions

  • Nicola Sturgeon is quizzed by opposition MSPs during first minister's questions

  • Scottish Labour MSP Alex Rowley leads this afternoon's member's debate entitled: The Cost of Saying Goodbye, Burial and Cremation Charges in Scotland

  • The Scottish government leads a debate on Scotland's potential in a digital world

  • MSPs debate council tax increase in upper bands

  1. Holyrood committee backs rise in council tax for top bandspublished at 16:49 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    Council TaxImage source, PA

    Holyrood's local government committee has backed plans to raise the council tax for the four highest bands.

    The government wants some households to pay more to raise money for education, and finance secretary Derek Mackay gave evidence to committee backing the plan.

    The committee formally recommended the scheme to parliament after members voted four to two in favour of it.

    Members also rejected an amendment from Green MSP Andy Wightman noting "concerns" about wider local tax plans.

    The proposals would see the average band E household pay about £2 per week more, and the average household in the highest band (H) about £10 a week more.

    Parliament has to pass an order, a piece of secondary legislation, to change the bands, and Mr Mackay has now won the formal backing of the committee for that.

  2. Minister says these are the first steps of council tax reformpublished at 16:48 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    Finance Secretary Derek Mackay says the Green amendment does not mention progressive taxation.

    Mr Mackay says this SSI is purely about the council tax multiplier that won the support of the Local Government Committee.

    Finance Secretary Derek Mackay

    It will make tax fairer and more proportionate says the cabinet secretary.

    Mr Mackay says these are the first steps of council tax reform.

    He says MSPs should back his amendment tonight and avoid party political gains.

  3. Average annual increase in council tax being proposedpublished at 16:46 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    Money houseImage source, bbc

    The average annual increase in council tax as a result of the band adjustments would be:

    • band E - £105
    • band F - £207
    • band G - £335
    • band H - £517
  4. Here is the SNP amendment by Finance Secretary Derek Mackaypublished at 16:44 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    Here is the SNP amendment by Finance Secretary Derek Mackay. 

    SNP amendmentImage source, Scottish government
  5. Green MSP says the ball is in the court of the SNPpublished at 16:44 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    Mr Wightman says if the SNP vote for the motion tonight it will pass and he says the ball is in their court.

  6. Greens to back SSI despite it being 'a tepid reheat of a discredited system'published at 16:44 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    Green MSP Andy Wightman says his party will vote for the SSI this evening regardless of which amendments are chosen.

    Green MSP Andy Wightman

    Mr Wightman says the Greens have significant criticisms of the Scottish government's position but there is much agreement also.

    The Green MSP says the SSI provides a "tepid reheat of a discredited system", but says his party will back it as it is a modest change.

    He says his amendment does not alter the bands, the multipliers or rates.

  7. Background: Government saved from chamber defeat on council tax by non-registered votepublished at 16:44 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    Kezza DugdaleImage source, PA
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    Ms Dugdale insists she did vote - but parliamentary authorities say everything was working as it should have done

    The government was only saved from a chamber defeat over council tax in September when Labour leader Kezia Dugdale's vote failed to register.

    Opposition members had successfully amended a government motion promoting its council tax reform strategy, changing the wording to condemn the approach as undermining local accountability. 

    But the final vote on the amended motion was tied after Ms Dugdale's vote was not counted.

  8. Here is the amendment by the Scottish Greenspublished at 16:41 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    Here is the amendment by the Scottish Greens. 

    Scottish Greens amendmentImage source, Scottish Parliament
  9. Background: Council tax proposalspublished at 16:41 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    The government proposals would see council tax rise for properties in bands E, F, G and HImage source, PA
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    The government proposals would see council tax rise for properties in bands E, F, G and H

    MSPs are to vote on increasing the top four bands of council tax in Scotland, after the following debate.

    Members will consider the issue via a parliamentary bureau motion at the end of the day's business at Holyrood, after the increase was backed by the local government committee.

    The government wants some households to pay more to raise money for education.

    But opposition parties have questioned the Scottish government's approach, with some calling for more radical reforms to local taxation.

  10. MSPs will now debate the government's council tax proposalspublished at 16:40 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    Council tax motionImage source, bbc

    Here is the motion for the SSI from the Scottish government for the council tax debate.

  11. Council tax debate analysis by BBC Scotland political reporter Philip Simpublished at 16:40 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    Council taxImage source, PA

    It's all getting a bit complicated at Holyrood - an attempted amendment to an amendment to a PBM approving an SSI. Clear as mud.

    So what is actually going to happen with this vote? Are these council tax bands going up or not?

    The complication stems from Andy Wightman's amendment, which accepts the rate rises but includes a note of "regret" at the government's approach.

    This amendment might well pass, given opposition parties ganged up on the (minority) government over council tax as recently as September.

    If it does, then the SNP might not want to vote for the order. They could well end up abstaining - which would make the final vote a straight fight between the opposition parties.

    Ms Sturgeon was specifically pressed on this by Patrick Harvie in the chamber at FMQs - and she did not commit to backing a Green-amended motion, only promoting Mr Mackay's amendment.

    The Tories and Lib Dems are both broadly opposed to the changes - so they could vote against the amended motion, outnumbering Labour and the Greens. The order would be dead - for now.

    This is just one scenario. But it's clearly a worry for the government, evidenced by Derek Mackay's bid to amend the amendment - and Ms Sturgeon's repeated warnings to other parties not to "side with the Tories" at decision time.

  12. New online interactive dialogue app launched - Derek Mackaypublished at 16:39 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    Finance Secretary Derek Mackay says it ha been a constructive debate with many strong suggestions.

    Mr Mackay says the government has been bold and is working with a number of agencies in order to meet digital ambitions.

    Finance Secretary Derek Mackay

    He says the fibre infrastructure cannot possibly reach every single area to achieve 100% connectivity but other options will be explored. 

    The finance secretary say there must be clear actions coming from the plan and he hopes people will see that when it is published next year. 

    Mr Mackay says he hopes the Refresh Strategy will cover all the aspects discussed today. 

    He says an online interactive dialogue app has been launched today. 

  13. Tory MSP underlines the changes to attitudes in technologypublished at 16:31 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    Tory MSP Murdo Fraser
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    Tory MSP Murdo Fraser

    Scottish Conservative MSP Murdo Fraser says he talked about better connectivity in 2001. He says he reread that speech and interestingly broadband wasn't mentioned let alone superfast broadband. He says the principles of the speech remains the same.

    Mr Fraser says we have come a long way in 15 years with Scottish and UK governments committed to connectivity and technology plans.

    He says people used to complain about telephone masts because they were worried about the health implications but now they complain that mobile telephone masts are not going up quickly enough. 

  14. Labour MSP says it is important to recognise the generational technology dividepublished at 16:25 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    Scottish Labour Neil BibbyImage source, bbc
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    Scottish Labour Neil Bibby

    In closing for Scottish Labour, Neil Bibby says one of the key themes emerging is we cannot and should not fall behind in state of the art technology.

    The Labour MSP says there are issues with broadband in Paisley and some residents are still living with dial-up broadband in new homes.

    Mr Bibby says it is important to recognise the generational technology divide. "Why should they be exluded from the best offers" in telecommunications because they do not have a smart phone, he says.

    He says, that if the government is serious about tackling poverty, then they must be serious about tackling digital inclusion.  

  15. MSPs will debate council tax increase in upper bands from 4.40pm......published at 16:11 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    MSPs will debate the Scottish government's proposed increase in council tax as a result of adjusting the upper bands, from 4.40pm.

    They will then be asked to vote on the SSI - Council Tax (Substitution of Proportion) (Scotland) Order 2016, external.

    Please note decision time has been moved......to 5.01pm.

    Council taxImage source, BBC/Google
  16. More free publicity for Ken Loach......published at 16:01 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

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  17. Rural businesses badly affected by connectivity issues - SNP MSPpublished at 16:00 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

    SNP MSP Gillian Martin says people in business should be able to work remotely from anywhere.

    Gillian Martin

    Ms Martin says business owners in her constituency have talked about moving because of how poor the connection is.

    The MSP for Aberdeenshire East says connectivity issues in rural areas causes real problems. "How do you go about finding a job in 2016 without the internet?" She asks. 

    Ms Martin says the very people who need internet banking, because there is no branch in these areas, cannot use it because there is no connectivity. 

  18. Here's a closer look at Philip Sim's Council Tax Vote Diagram.....published at 15:51 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

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  19. Patrick Harvie says its all down to how the SNP vote....published at 15:49 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

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  20. Looking ahead to the complex vote on the council tax.....published at 15:47 Greenwich Mean Time 3 November 2016

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