Summary

  • The Social Security Committee takes evidence on the Social Security Bill from charities

  • Nicola Sturgeon is quizzed by opposition party leaders and MSPs during first minister's questions

  • Finance Secretary Derek Mackay delivers a ministerial statement on Air Departure Tax

  • The Scottish government delivers a ministerial statement on Scottish City Region Deals

  • MSPs debate the Wild Animals in Travelling Circuses Bill before voting on its general principles at decision time

  1. Goodnight from Holyrood Live....published at 16:32 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

    HolyroodImage source, PA

    That brings our coverage of the Scottish Parliament on 5 October 2017 to a close.

    The Parliament is now in recess and we will be back on Tuesday 24 October 2017.

    We will see you then.

  2. Minister says ethical arguments for a ban are validpublished at 16:30 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

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    Ms Cunningham says the use of the word circus is in legislation already in the UK.

    The environment minister says ethical arguments are better than welfare arguments because they veer across the board.

    She says the ethical arguments for a ban are valid.

  3. Taxonomy not straightforward says ministerpublished at 16:27 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

    Roseanna Cunningham

    Ms Cunningham says she is advised that taxonomy is not straightforward and that people make a career out of the scientific research in it.

    The environment secretary says if an animal is not on the list then it may lead to that animal being used.

    Green MSP Mark Ruskell intervenes to ask if the government could work with those working in taxonomy to create a list.

    Ms Cunningham says there could be a list with every wild animal on it but there will always be some that "we are not aware of".

  4. Postpublished at 16:26 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

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  7. Minister defends the definitions in the legislationpublished at 16:23 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

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    Environment Secretary Roseanna Cunningham

    Environment Secretary Roseanna Cunningham says this is a simple focused Bill.

    Ms Cunningham says the legislation will not interfere with the ownership, keeping or transport of wild animals in a travelling circus, so long as the animals are not performing or being displayed.

    She says there is a strong and clear mandate for the ban of wild animals performing in a travelling circus.

    Ms Cunningham defends the definitions in the Bill.

  8. 'This current draft would be a paradise for lawyers'published at 16:19 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

    Tiger

    Mr Carson says a cohesive and well-balanced piece of legislation would make more sense.

    "This current draft would be a paradise for lawyers," he says.

    The Tory MSP says the vague nature of the definition on wild animals does not help the Bill and he would join others in calling for a list to be included.

  9. 'Why the rush?'published at 16:17 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

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    Tory MSP Finlay Carson

    Tory MSP Finlay Carson says his party supports the general principles of the Bill and the proposed ban.

    Mr Carson says he hopes the government will take on board the concerns expressed about the legislation.

    He asks: "Why the rush?"

    As no travelling circuses with wild animals have been in Scotland for quite some time he asks why there was a need push this through so quickly.

  10. Labour supports the principles of the Billpublished at 16:14 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

    Camel in circus

    Ms Beamish says a list of animals, at least in secondary legislation, which can be amended as time goes on would be beneficial.

    The Labour MSP says her party supports the principles of the Bill.

  11. 'We should all work together to sharpen this Bill'published at 16:11 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

    Labour MSP Claudia BeamishImage source, bbc
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    Labour MSP Claudia Beamish

    Labour MSP Claudia Beamish says: "We should all work together to sharpen this Bill."

    Ms Beamish says banning the use of wild animals in travelling circuses is progressive.

  12. SNP MSP commends unanimity on the principles of this Billpublished at 16:09 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

    SNP MSP Kate Forbes

    SNP MSP Kate Forbes says there continues to be unanimity on the principles of this Bill.

    Ms Forbes says the government conducted a public consultation on the use of wild animals in travelling circuses in early 2014.

    The SNP MSP says it is very important that this Bill will not affect those who do not keep wild animals and are not defined as circuses.

  13. 'The case for a ban is much easier to make on welfare grounds'published at 16:05 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

    Tory MSP John ScottImage source, bbc
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    Tory MSP John Scott

    Tory MSP John Scott says there are no wild animals in travelling circuses in Scotland now or in the forseeable future.

    Mr Scott says the case for a ban is much easier to make on welfare grounds.

  14. Enforcement powers in the Bill could go further.published at 16:00 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

    SNP MSP Angus MacDonald

    SNP MSP Angus MacDonald says in March 2012 the UK government said it would bring forward legislation banning wild animals in circuses but so far no Bill has been forthcoming.

    Mr MacDonald says the committee is of the view that enforcement powers in the Bill could go further.

    The SNP MSP says the minister told the committee that ministers can appoint their own inspectors if local authorities are not enforcing the legislation.

  15. There is room and considerable scope for improvement to the Bill say Lib Dem MSPpublished at 15:58 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

    Lib Dem MSP Liam McArthurImage source, bbc
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    Lib Dem MSP Liam McArthur

    Lib Dem MSP Liam McArthur says his party will gladly support the general principles of the Wild Animals in Travelling Circuses (Scotland) Bill this evening.

    Mr McArthur says there is room and considerable scope for improvement.

    Like many before him, Mr McArthur calls for better definitions in the legislation.

    He says: "We are opening up a paradise for lawyers".

  16. Background: What's wrong with entertainment?published at 15:56 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

    Rona Brown from the Circus Guild of Great BritainImage source, bbc
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    Rona Brown from the Circus Guild of Great Britain

    In June Rona Brown from the Circus Guild of Great Britain, on behalf of Peter Jolly's Circus and the European Circus Association told the Environment Committee "we know right from wrong".

    Ms Brown says bad people are nasty all round but Peter Jolly Circus has been operating for some time and the family are involved in the business.

    She says "their beloved animals" are what they live for.

    Ms Brown says if you ban wild animals in circuses in Scotland it will "create a domino affect".

    "What's wrong with entertainment?" She asks, adding that if the inspections prove that the animals are being treated well then "why not?"

  17. The Bill causes a bit of a headache by its poor draftingpublished at 15:53 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

    Green MSP Mark Ruskell

    Green MSP Mark Ruskell says banning wild animals in circuses is absolutely the right thing to do and his party will back the Bill at stage one.

    Mr Ruskell says it is long needed and long overdue.

    The Green MSP says the Bill causes a bit of a headache by its poor drafting.

    He says the lack of definition of a circus is concerning.

  18. Send in the clowns...........published at 15:52 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

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  19. 'The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated'published at 15:52 British Summer Time 5 October 2017

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    Mahatma Gandhi is quoted by Labour MSP Colin Smyth

    Labour MSP Colin Smyth says this week would have been the birthday of Mahatma Gandhi why famously said: "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

    Mr Smyth says this Bill is a positive step in relegating animal cruelty in circuses to the history books.

    He calls for a definition of which animals are being targeted in the Bill.