Summary

  • Education Secretary John Swinney is quizzed by MSPs over education reforms

  • Ministers answer questions on finance and the constitution; and then economy, jobs and fair work

  • Mr Swinney gives a ministerial statement on the controversial testing of P1 pupils

  • The programme for government debate continues

  • SNP MSP Keith Brown leads a debate on sport of the University of Stirling

  1. Postpublished at 15:10 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

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  2. 'Are these diagnostic assessments or are they monitoring standards?'published at 15:08 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Labour MSP Iain GrayImage source, bbc
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    Labour MSP Iain Gray

    Labour MSP Iain Gray says that, in the face of stress caused to four and five year olds, more work for teachers and parents' concerns, the education secretary has just carried on.

    "These tests do not command the confidence of teachers."

    The Labour MSP asks how many schools have replaced the old and trusted diagnostics and how many have just added on the new tests.

    Mr Gray asks: "Are these diagnostic assessments or are they monitoring standards because they cannot do both."

    Mr Swinney replies the purpose of the standardised assessments is to identify difficulties in learning, whereas surveys can only give a general picture.

    The education secretary wants to be confident that young people have access to an education system that has excellence and equity across Scotland.

  3. Background: Parents ‘misled’ on right to opt out of new tests from Tes Scotlandpublished at 15:05 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    According to this report from Tes Scotland, external, opposition politicians have been calling for the Scottish government to apologise to parents over a “misleading” email from a top civil servant stating they could not opt out of controversial national tests.

    Last week Tes Scotland exclusively revealed that Graeme Logan, a deputy director in the Scottish government’s learning directorate, wrote to councils stating that parents did not have the right to opt out of new literacy and numeracy tests in P1, P4, P7 and S3, apart from in “exceptional circumstances”, external.

    Mr Logan quoted advice from Solar (the Society of Local Authority Lawyers and Administrators in Scotland), external, stating: “Solar have advised us that parents don’t have the option to opt out of the assessments, explaining that all children...will participate.”

    However, a spokesman for Solar has told The Herald newspaper that the body did not provide a view to the Scottish government on the controversial literacy and numeracy assessments, external.

  4. Tory MSP raises questions of legal advicepublished at 15:03 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Tory MSP Liz Smith
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    Tory MSP Liz Smith

    Tory MSP Liz Smith says a letter issued last week to education directors suggested legal advice had been sought on the right of parents to withdraw children when that was not the case.

    She asks if the cabinet secretary personally signed off on this letter.

    Ms Smith also queries whether teachers will be free to decide if a class of pupils will sit an assessment.

    Whether the tests will be used to measure the narrowing of the attainment gap is also questioned.

    Mr Swinney says he did not sign off the letter but he takes full responsibility of it as a minister, stating an error was made.

    The government expects the majority of pupils will undergo assessment at P1, P4, P7 and S3, though teachers can make a judgement on whether individual pupils take them, he explains.

    On the attainment gap, Mr Swinney states teachers will use the assessments to make a judgement on pupils' progress but the results will not be used exclusively to assess the outcomes regarding the attainment gap.

  5. Background: Postcard campaign urges parents to boycott controversial P1 testspublished at 15:01 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Postcard exampleImage source, Upstart Scotland

    A campaign was launched in August to encourage parents to withdraw their children from new Primary 1 assessments.

    Upstart Scotland produced special postcards for parents to hand in to schools.

    The Scottish government said parents had no legal right to withdraw their children from the assessments.

    But it added that schools do have discretion to decide whether children should take part.

    Read more.

  6. Swinney insists P1 tests are not 'high stakes'published at 15:00 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Mr SwinneyImage source, bbc
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    Mr Swinney

    Mr Swinney says the letter on parental opt outs was sent in good faith.

    The education secretary explains there must be a clear understanding of the benefits of the tests as they are not "high stake".

    Children should not be prepared for the assessments and there is no pass or fail, he tells the chamber.

    Mr Swinney says the user review will help refine and enhance the assessments.

  7. Background: Changes to P1 school assessments announcedpublished at 14:55 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Child workingImage source, PA

    Changes to the controversial system of national assessments for Scottish school pupils were announced last week.

    Ministers said questions which had caused "issues" for primary one pupils will be altered, and more advice will be offered to teachers.

    Education Secretary John Swinney has also written an open letter to parents of P1 children, external in an attempt to allay fears over the assessments.

    However, the EIS teachers' union said it still had "serious concerns".

    Read more.

  8. Concerns over tests should be raised with schoolspublished at 14:54 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Mr Swinney confirms assessments will be available in Gaelic medium education later this academic year.

    On the possibility of parents withdrawing children from assessments, the education secretary says tests are not provided for in legislation.

    This means assessments are not compulsory, nor is there a legislative right to withdraw children from them, he explains.

    Should any parents or carers have concerns about child participation, this should be discussed with individuals schools he states.

    A child should not undertake an assessment if it is not in their best interest, the cabinet secretary adds.

  9. Postpublished at 14:52 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

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  10. Background: How do tests for P1 pupils work?published at 14:51 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Jamie McIvor
    BBC Scotland education correspondent

    Child writing alphabetImage source, Thinkstock

    Scotland's largest teaching union is calling for national assessments for P1 pupils to be scrapped.

    The assessments were introduced last year to gauge children's numeracy and literacy skills, but have been opposed by some teachers and politicians.

    The EIS believes the tests are inappropriate and has warned of a boycott if matters do not improve.

    The Scottish government says the tests are appropriate for five-year-olds and should be enjoyable for children.

    BBC Scotland education correspondent Jamie McIvor answers some common questions on the assessments.

  11. John Swinney begins his statement on testing of P1 pupilspublished at 14:48 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Education Secretary John Swinney begins by saying assessment is a key part of learning.

    Mr Swinney points out almost all councils have been using standardised testing for a number of years.

    The education secretary insists most councils already had assessments for pupils in P1.

    The national assessments are simply a tool to provide this information to teachers and they are better aligned to the Curriculum for Excellence, explains Mr Swinney

    John SwinneyImage source, bbc

    Tests should not place children on any undue stress, he insists.

    Many children in P1 enjoyed the experience, however there was clear feedback about concerns about the assessments, says Mr Swinney, but warns the EIS survey must be kept in context

    He accepts this is the first year of the assessments and improvements can be made.

    The minister details changes the government will make to the assessments to benefit pupils and teachers.

  12. Dundee decommissioning jobspublished at 14:42 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Labour MSP Jenny Marra
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    Labour MSP Jenny Marra

    Labour MSP Jenny Marra asks about the decommissioning jobs created in Dundee in the last 12 months.

    Energy Minister Paul Wheelhouse says the Scottish government does not hold the figures requested, but has been supported various projects through Scottish Enterprise and the challenge fund.

  13. Call for public energy company's hq to be in the Highlandspublished at 14:41 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Natural Environment Minister Mairi GougeonImage source, bbc
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    Natural Environment Minister Mairi Gougeon

    Natural Environment Minister Mairi Gougeon replies that the government has considered the report which adds to the body of evidence that demands action.

    Mr Finnie calls for the public energy company's HG to be in the Highlands, to which Ms Gougeon replies discussion can take place.

  14. Paris agreement implicationspublished at 14:41 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Green MSP John Finnie raises the Tyndall Centre and Uppsala University report, 'Quantifying the implications of the Paris Agreement: What role for Scotland?', and queries its implications for the economy.

  15. Export plan to be published by spring 2019published at 14:40 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Trade Minister Ivan McKee
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    Trade Minister Ivan McKee

    Trade Minister Ivan McKee says a plan for exports, to be published by next spring, will set out a route map for boosting exports with the support of the new south of Scotland enterprise agency.

    Ms Ballantyne questions support, expressing concern about limited options for SMEs.

    Mr McKee points to export regional partnership pilots through SDI.

  16. South Scotland exportspublished at 14:39 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Tory MSP Michelle Ballantyne asks about promoting exports from the South Scotland region.

  17. Labour MSP calls hike in parking prices in Paisley akin to 'economic vandalism'published at 14:37 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Mr BibbyImage source, bbc

    Derek Mackay replies ministers regularly meet retailers across Scotland, to discuss issues such as business rates and the economy.

    Mr Bibby highlights the Paisely 2021 campaign, but says Paisely has not been immune to the retail slump.

    He says the decision by Renfrewshire Council to hike up parking prices by 33% is the equivalent of "economic vandalism".

    The minister calls for unity around promoting the economy around Paisley.

  18. Renfrewshire retailerspublished at 14:36 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Labour MSP Neil Bibby asks about meetings with representatives of retailers in Renfrewshire.

  19. Background: Edinburgh city deal signedpublished at 14:35 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Leaders signing agreement

    The Edinburgh and south east Scotland city deal was formally signed off by First Minister Nicola Sturgeon and Prime Minister Theresa May in August.

    The deal had been announced last year and will see the Scottish and UK governments each contribute £300m.

    Local business and academic partners are expected to bring the total investment up to £1.2bn.

    The funds will go towards scientific research on space, health sciences, agricultural technology and food and drink at five new "innovation hubs", as well as the creation of a new 1,000 seat concert hall.

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  20. Edinburgh and South East City Region Dealpublished at 14:34 British Summer Time 5 September 2018

    Infrastructure Secretary Michael Matheson
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    Infrastructure Secretary Michael Matheson

    SNP MSP Colin Beattie queries how the Edinburgh and South East City Region Deal will help deliver inclusive economic growth across the region and benefit residents in Midlothian and Musselburgh.

    Infrastructure Secretary Michael Matheson says the deal will be used the deliver new jobs, new homes and skills training across the region.

    There will be direct investment in the areas the member mentioned, he adds.