'I respect the independence of the court'published at 16:10 British Summer Time 18 September 2019
Justice Secretary Humza Yousaf begins saying we cannot carry on locking up people in prisons far in excess of the numbers of our European neighbours.
Mr Yousaf insists sentencing decisions are for the independent court and the judiciary.
The justice secretary explains the courts hear all the evidence and are best placed to weigh up all the evidence when it comes to sentencing.
"I respect the independence of the court."
The justice secretary disagrees with the Tory proposal to abolish automatic early release, pointing to the "far, far too high" prison population.
Liam Kerr intervenes to say overcrowding cannot dictate sentencing as that would be putting the cart before the horse.
Mr Yousaf explains that abolishing automatic early release would lead to the need for three more Barlinnies being built to house prisoners.