Summary

  • Bethan Rhys Roberts and Nick Servini presented 90 minutes of debate ahead of next week's Senedd election

  • The first hour featured leaders of Labour, the Conservatives, Plaid Cymru, the Liberal Democrats and Abolish the Welsh Assembly

  • Reform UK, UKIP and the Green Party took part in the second part of the programme

  • The Senedd election takes place on Thursday 6 May

  1. Thank you and goodbyepublished at 22:18 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    Thanks for joining us for our live coverage of the BBC Wales Election 2021 Leaders' Debate.

    If you missed any of it, or want to watch it again, the programme will be available on demand via the BBC iPlayer very shortly, or via the video link at the top of this page.

    We'll have more live page coverage next week of the final week of the Senedd election campaign and results day next Friday 7 May.

    Good night and sleep well.

  2. Leaders clash on pandemic support for businesspublished at 22:17 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    Leaders' debate

    The BBC Wales Election 2021 Leaders' Debate is now over, with pandemic support for business being one of the main points of contention.

    Labour's Mark Drakeford said £200m was waiting to be spent by the next first minister after the election to give firms hit by the pandemic more help.

    But Plaid Cymru's Adam Price questioned why it could not have been spent before the vote.

    Conservative Andrew RT Davies said there was unallocated cash in Welsh government coffers.

    Jane Dodds said the Welsh Liberal Democrats would support medium, small and micro-businesses.

    Meanwhile Abolish the Welsh Assembly's Richard Suchorzewski said control of the NHS should be returned to the UK government.

    Read more here.

  3. 'People don't trust politicians', says Reform UKpublished at 22:12 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    In his closing remarks, Jamie Jenkins of Reform UK said people tell him “they don’t trust politicians”.

    But he added voters put their trust in Reform UK when it was the Brexit Party by giving them an “overwhelming majority” of the UK's MEPs in the 2019 European Parliament election.

    He said, as a result, they delivered Brexit "for the people".

    Mr Jenkins added that next week is another opportunity for voters to put their trust in Reform UK to deliver once again.

    “We want to reform the Senedd - we don’t want to abolish, we don’t want independence, we just want to make Wales a better place”, he said.

  4. 'Nonsense' to say Senedd is representative of Wales, says UKIPpublished at 22:08 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    In his closing contribution, UKIP's Neil Hamilton said: “The idea that the Senedd in any way represents ordinary people in Wales is nonsense, and it’s proved by the reaction of Welsh politicians in the Senedd to Brexit.

    "53% of the people of Wales voted for Brexit but 80% of the members of the Senedd voted to remain," he said.

    "The Welsh Government, aided and abetted by Plaid Cymru and the LibDems in the last four and a half years, did their best to frustrate the result of the referendum which was your decision as to the future of Wales.

    "Wales is the poorest part of the UK, we’re poorer today than 22 years ago. We’ve had a permanent Labour government and we’re going to get a Labour government again after the 6th of May, because Plaid Cymru are already cosying up to Mark Drakeford.”

  5. 'Critical point in history' for green change, says Womackpublished at 22:07 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    In her closing remarks Amelia Womack asked electors to “vote Green” so as not to “waste your vote.”

    She said the election was happening at a “critical point in our history" and that "Green scrutiny is essential to a post-pandemic recovery”.

    Ms Womack said mental health should have “parity with physical health” with an increase in funding for services and staff.

    She said the underlying causes of mental health should also be addressed “such as unpredictable housing, unpredictable jobs.”

    On waiting lists, Ms Womack said a “holistic approach” was needed for health and social care.

  6. Senedd 'has its place', says Reform UKpublished at 22:05 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    Reform UK believes “the Senedd has its place”, according to Jamie Jenkins.

    He said his party does not want to give powers back to Westminster.

    But he added Reform would campaign to stay in the UK should there be a referendum on independence.

  7. Anti-Senedd party policies queriedpublished at 21:57 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

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  8. 'Get Wales open for business', says Reform UKpublished at 21:55 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    Jamie Jenkins for Reform UK said his party supports the development of tidal lagoons.

    The party also wants to cut business rates and “get Wales open for business”.

    Mr Jenkins added Reform UK is also in favour of the development of the M4 relief road.

    “People aren’t going to invest in Wales if they think you’re going to be stuck in a car park”, he said.

  9. 'Scrap Senedd' option for any indyref, says UKIPpublished at 21:54 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    UKIP's Neil Hamilton has argued people must be given the option to scrap the Senedd if an independence referendum is held.

    He said: “I’m very happy to go with a referendum on Welsh independence so long as it includes an option that we get rid of the Senedd, and we move to a system where we transfer power not from one set of politicians from Cardiff to Westminster or vice versa but we actually transfer power to the people.”

  10. 'A future unhampered by Westminster', say Greenspublished at 21:52 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    The Green Party would “support a referendum and we would support an independence vote in that referendum”, according to its deputy leader in England and Wales.

    “It's clear that there's been a poverty of ambition from Westminster," said Amelia Womack.

    “I want to bring steel into this actually, because we know that during the Brexit negotiations that steel wasn't considered important by Westminster - but that's jobs and lives in Wales not considered important."

    On the finances of an independent Wales, Ms Womack said the UK was already in debt and that green investment could be harnessed in Wales.

    “It is how we invest in a future that isn't hampered by the lack of ambition from Westminster.”

  11. Renewable energy 'burden for poorest', says UKIP's Hamiltonpublished at 21:50 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    Speaking on the climate emergency, UKIP's Neil Hamilton said: “Renewable energy is much more expensive than conventional fuel.

    "We’re actually burdening the poorest people in the UK (in Wales) with extra costs for fuel.”

    However, Amelia Womack of the Greens denied an accusation by Mr Hamilton that green issues are “a middle class obsession.”

    Ms Womack said that the “poorest communities will be harmed most by these issues.”

  12. Devolution 'brought inequality', says Reform UKpublished at 21:49 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    Jamie Jenkins

    In his opening statement, Jamie Jenkins for Reform UK drew on his experience of growing up on a council estate.

    He said 22 years of devolution has brought inequality and the life expectancy gap for newborns between England and Wales has doubled.

    Mr Jenkins added that under Reform UK’s previous guise as the Brexit Party, voters delivered them a majority of UK MEPs in the 2019 European elections.

    He said voting for Reform UK next week “can deliver and reform the Senedd”.

  13. Climate emergency cannot be ignored, say Greenspublished at 21:45 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    Amelia Womack

    Amelia Womack from the Green Party says that a vote for green jobs is a vote to “rebuild a post-pandemic Wales fit for the 21st Century.”

    Asked how she would rebuild the economy while guarding the environment, Ms Womack said: "All of our recovery should have the environment at the heart of it, because it means jobs and opportunities, it means training and education, and it means that we're tackling the biggest problems of our time.”

    Ms Womack said that Wales could not ignore the “climate emergency when people around Wales are experiencing flooding, coastal towns are potentially at risk of being destroyed due to rising sea levels”.

    She also said that it was “simply not true” that jobs would be lost due to her party’s green targets, and that “green steel” would be a key part of the future,

    "Steel isn’t at risk," Ms Womack insisted.

  14. Wales poorer today than 20 years ago, says UKIPpublished at 21:43 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    Neil Hamilton

    UKIP Wales leader Neil Hamilton said: “Devolution has failed Wales.

    "It’s the poorest part of the United Kingdom, and we’re poorer today relative to the rest of the country than we were twenty years ago, despite 22 years of Labour government propped up as necessary by Plaid and the LibDems.

    "Welsh government doesn’t have the money for major infrastructure improvements like the M4, it doesn’t have the money to provide us with decent public services like health and education.

    "The NHS is a shambles with 5 of the 7 health boards in special measures… our school results are the worst in the United Kingdom, we have a housing crisis and yet the Welsh Government grandstands by saying we are a nation of sanctuary.”

  15. Three more parties air their viewspublished at 21:41 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    Second part of the programme

    With the first part of the programme over, three other parties begin to air their views with presenter Nick Servini moderating.

    The participants are Jamie Jenkins of Reform UK, Amelia Womack of the Green Party and Neil Hamilton of UKIP.

  16. 'Let's change the coaching staff', says Tory leaderpublished at 21:39 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    In his closing remarks seeking votes for the Welsh Conservatives, Andrew RT Davies said: “When the Welsh rugby team doesn’t perform on the pitch, we don’t scrap the Welsh Rugby Union or cancel the team playing in the Six Nations.

    "We change the coaching staff… let’s run with it, let’s get back playing this game so Wales is at the top of the league table, not at the bottom.”

  17. 'Climate at the heart of everything', says Lib Dem leaderpublished at 21:38 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    In her closing statement, Jane Dodds called on voters to “imagine” a better Wales.

    The Welsh Lib Dem leader outlined some of her party’s key policies on reforming the high street, improving mental health services and delivering greener homes.

    Ms Dodds added that the Liberal Democrats wanted to “put the climate at the heart of everything we did”.

    “That’s the sort of Wales that we want”, she said.

  18. 'I want to finish the job', says Drakefordpublished at 21:38 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    In his closing statement, Welsh Labour leader Mark Drakeford said people had told him over the last month they were glad to have lived in Wales during the pandemic.

    “And that’s because Labour values are your values too," he said.

    “I am asking for your vote so I can help finish the job and guide Wales on to that brighter future.”

  19. 'Wake up and save Wales', says Abolishpublished at 21:36 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    Richard Suchorzewski, the leader of the Abolish The Welsh Assembly Party, said people needed “to wake up” and vote for his party to “save Wales and save the union”.

    He said it was time to stop Wales “sleep walking to independence”.

  20. Closing remarks begin, with message of 'hope' from Plaidpublished at 21:36 British Summer Time 29 April 2021

    In his closing statement, Plaid Cymru leader Adam Price says there is “hope of a new beginning" with a spring election.

    “The future is in our hands in seven days’ time," he said.

    "We can write this future together, we can right all the wrongs of all the years - a future without poverty, without homelessness, without hunger – a future that will be better than the past, because we will build it together.”