Summary

  • Assisted dying proposals rejected

  • Palliative and end of life care review agreed

  • Match abandoned after cows invade pitch

  • Updates from Monday 14 May until Friday 18 May 2018

  1. Assisted dying: 'Empty promises'published at 12:09 British Summer Time 18 May 2018

    Rob England
    BBC News Online

    Deputy Jonathan Le Tocq started his speech with a reference to his previous addresses.

    He said he's had the equivalent of three sermons on the mount, which lasted about 15 minutes.

    He has already come out firmly opposed to assisted dying, the proposals for which he describes as "empty promises".

    Resources are his main concern, and Mr Le Tocq says "we cannot do everything as well as we should".

    "Assisted dying is at best undeliverable and at worst will sap up resources that could be used elsewhere," he added.

    He described the assisted dying proposals as "new risks".

    He added the saddest thing about the debate was the "vast majority" of the examples given of people looking for assisted dying would not qualify for assisted dying, which he says means the safeguards put forward would not be upheld.

    Jonathan Le Tocq
  2. Assisted dying: 'Assisted living harder than assisted dying'published at 11:50 British Summer Time 18 May 2018

    Rob England
    BBC News Online

    This is the hardest subject Deputy Heidi Soulsby, the President the Health and Social Care Committee, has had to consider, she says.

    She says she is not against the principle of assisted dying but will not be supporting the proposals. However, her committee she says, if resourced, would work to implement them.

    Heidi Soulsby

    Instead she is backing her own plans to improve palliative and end of life care in Guernsey.

    In an emotional address, she said "it is impossible to provide what everyone wants".

    The ageing population of the island is a major concern for the deputy, which she says is already affecting her department.

    She says the unpalatable truth was the vast majority of islanders "will get older and frailer" but will have their condition "managed better" because of improvements in medicine.

    "This is what we need the community to be fired up about," she adds.

    It seems this is what her proposals to improve end of life and palliative care have been driven by.

    She says assisted dying risks raising expectations for islanders because only a few will be able to access it, as well as the amount of time it would take to implement.

    Deputy Soulsby said assisted living was "harder" than assisted death, but its possibilities were "far greater".

    Concluding, Ms Soulsby said although she believed assisted dying legislation would eventually be passed, and expects the vote to be closer than the last time the States discussed it in 2004, she couldn't support it this time.

  3. Assisted dying: McKinley backs outpublished at 11:21 British Summer Time 18 May 2018

    Rob England
    BBC News Online

    Alderney representative Graham McKinley - who signed the original proposal - now says he isn't sold on the plans for assisted dying, despite supporting the idea in principle.

    He agrees with Deputy Charles Parkinson in saying the States is "rushing" the plans.

    In particular he said he was concerned about the terms of residency for assisted dying, and wonders if people may move over to access it.

    He said there was "an awful lot more to learn" about the idea of assisted dying before it is put into effect.

    Mr Mckinley suggested further consultation with the public and even a referendum on the issue.

  4. Assisted dying: A third option?published at 11:13 British Summer Time 18 May 2018

    Rob England
    BBC News Online

    A third option has been suggested to members by Deputy Carl Meerveld who is opposing the plans.

    He wants a charitable trust set up that could pay to fly people to countries where assisted dying is legal.

    The trust, he says, would be based on the proposals and would cover travel costs and provide legal help to those using its services.

    Mr Meerveld says this would avoid changing Guernseys laws and would be quicker and more cost effective.

    Finishing he calls on States members to reject the "ill conceived" proposals.

    He has not put forward a formal motion to support his suggestion.

  5. Assisted dying: 'Association with assisted suicide possible'published at 11:02 British Summer Time 18 May 2018

    Rob England
    BBC News Online

    The difference between assisted dying and assisted suicide is the main thrust of Deputy Mary Lowe's speech.

    She says once the headlines about suicide were produced, wrong or not, that is not the sort of image the island wants to be associated with.

    Mary Lowe

    Touching on comments made by Lord Faulkner on the proposals, who found the legislation would probably not face issues from the UK parliament if passed - his own assisted dying laws were "rejected overwhelmingly" less than two years ago.

    She said the majority of people she had spoken to say it should not be passed, but acknowledged that many saw it as another step in allowing islanders "total freedom".

    Deputy Lowe will not be supporting the assisted dying proposals.

  6. Assisted dying: Legislating a 'resource hungry' processpublished at 10:54 British Summer Time 18 May 2018

    Rob England
    BBC News Online

    Deputy John Gollop doesn't seem very supportive of the assisted dying proposals.

    He says he did not think Guernsey was in a position to be "at the front" of the assisted dying debate worldwide.

    John Gollop

    He has described the legislation as a "resource hungry process", which would give the island an international profile that would be positive to some ears and negative to others.

    "I do not like see people to die in pain," he said, but added he had faith in medical professionals to provide care.

    He is in favour of scrapping assisted dying altogether, and instead making improvements to palliative and end of life care.

    "I believe we should be strongly asserting that every life is essential."

    Deputy Gollop also said: "At this time we cannot afford this level of commitment, we've got 100 policies yet to get through."

    But, he suggested there was nothing to stop individual members employing their own private working groups to build a report on assisted dying he said he would be happy to read.

  7. Assisted dying: 'A chance to show compassion'published at 10:29 British Summer Time 18 May 2018

    Rob England
    BBC News Online

    A pro assisted dying opinion now from Deputy Victoria Oliver.

    She says voting yes is not giving unlimited power to allow people to end their lives "on a whim", nor are the proposers inviting tourists to "death rock". It is, she says giving "the most basic right of choice" to "the greatest in need".

    She says it's a chance for the States to show islanders they have "compassion".

    Looking ahead, Mrs Oliver said the subject of assisted dying would "not go away" if it is defeated, and would be debated again if rejected.

    "The sooner it is considered, the better," she said.

    However, she will not be supporting imposing an assisted dying law on Alderney.

  8. Assisted dying: 'Fundamentally flawed and expensive'published at 10:20 British Summer Time 18 May 2018

    Rob England
    BBC News Online

    Deputy Dawn Tindall is also not in favour of the proposals and highlighted technical problems in her speech.

    She said although her "feelings of empathy" may be sympathetic her "conscientious" had led her to question the proposals.

    Ms Tindall said she is concerned over the complexities in the drafting of laws around assisted dying and how they may be interpreted, and feels these are being dismissed.

    Dawn TindallImage source, Dawn Tindall

    She also has concerns about the capacity laws involved, and says she could not support anything until safeguards are in place to protect vulnerable people.

    "I am concerned about the false expectation around assisted dying," she said and added she believed islanders were unaware of who would benefit from assisted dying.

    She reflected on the life of her cousin, who was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis at age 21 and although they were given six months to live went on to live for another two decades.

    To summarise, she said she could not vote for a "fundamentally flawed and expensive process" to give hope "to a few".

  9. Assisted dying: A 'fundamental shift' in human rightspublished at 10:00 British Summer Time 18 May 2018

    Rob England
    BBC News Online

    First to speak today was Deputy Emilie Yerby, who says she's looking to speak to those still be weighing up arguments on assisted dying.

    Emilie Yerby
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    Emilie Yerby is the President of the Overseas Aid and Development Committee

    She is not in favour of assisted dying, which she says can only answer cases of unbearable pain.

    Ms Yerby says members should be under no illusions: "We're doing nothing to change that people will die, only perhaps the manner of their death."

    She added members were looking for "the least worst option", and although palliative care doesn't work for everyone assisted dying is possibly not worth it for those seeking it, which would be few cases.

    "For many assisted dying will give no more legal clarity choice and control than right now," she said.

    The deputy also said the proposal would create a "fundamental shift" in the relationship between government and wider society, with more interference and engagement in terms of human rights.

    She also points out "things go wrong" with current end of life care, and the consequences of mistakes in assisted dying could be "far worse".

  10. Le Fondre to make chief minister bidpublished at 09:27 British Summer Time 18 May 2018

    BBC Radio Jersey

    Senator-elect John Le Fondre has confirmed he plans to run for chief minister in the new States Assembly.

    The current deputy for St Lawrence finished third in the island-wide poll for the eight senator seats.

    Deputy Le Fondre says it was "time for a change at the top" but said he would like to see Senator Ian Gorst, the current chief minister in another ministerial role such as external relations.

    John Le FondreImage source, Vote.je
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    I have a lot of time for Ian Gorst we would work very well together... but in terms of the previous assembly we have seen some divisions in the past and things like that and hopefully I can be one of those people who can bring that together."

    Senator-elect John Le Fondre

    Look back at the election as it happened.

  11. Assisted dying debate enters third daypublished at 09:15 British Summer Time 18 May 2018

    Rob England
    BBC News Online

    Well after two days of debate a vote is expected today.

    If the States approves the proposals then it will start the process of investigating a legal regime for assisted dying in Guernsey.

    One change to the proposals has been made - the original proposals have been replaced to include and reflect concerns raised by politicians.

    At least 10 members are left to speak today.

    You can listen to the debate live from 09:30 here.

    States chamber
  12. Cyber attacks warning for Jersey finance firmspublished at 08:17 British Summer Time 18 May 2018

    BBC Radio Jersey

    Criminals have allegedly been impersonating people within finance companies in Jersey, warns the island's financial services watchdog.

    cyber crime concept imageImage source, Getty Images

    The Jersey Financial Services Commission (JFSC) says the "impersonation" cyber attacks are "not an isolated incident" and companies have suffered "substantial financial losses".

    A spokesman said: "We are not able to share further information at this time, but we are asking local companies and islanders to be extra vigilant."

    Firms who believe they may have been the victim of a cyber attack have been asked to contact the JFSC and the police.

  13. Kuttelwascher apologises for 'suicide' remarkspublished at 07:52 British Summer Time 18 May 2018

    Rob England
    BBC News Online

    Deputy Jan Kuttelwascher has apologised for having caused upset with his comments made outside the Royal Court on Wednesday relating to assisted dying and suicide.

    Here's a reminder of what he said:

    Mr Kuttelwascher said to assisted dying campaigners "there's a number of people I'd like to assist in dying, but they'd object"prompting a backlash from some States members.

    In his apology, he said: "I in no way meant to suggest or imply that those advocating for assisted dying could or should use suicide as an option."

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    My intention was to simply state the law as it currently is but I appreciate that in engaging in discussion with those outside the Royal Court the context of what I had hoped to convey was lost.

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    I fully recognise that suicide is an option taken by those who may have lots of life left but feel they have not much hope.

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    I know that many people who commit suicide do so because of underlying mental health issues, not necessarily because of a terminal illness.

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    Many families in the Bailiwick will have suffered the lost of loved ones through suicide and it was never my intention to upset them."

    Deputy Jan Kuttelwascher

    Mr Kuttelwascher has said he will not support the assisted dying proposals.

  14. Weather: Dry and finepublished at 07:24 British Summer Time 18 May 2018

    BBC Weather

    Today it will be a dry and fine day across the Channel Islands with lots of blue skies. Staying fine and sunny this evening. A light breeze.

    Maximum Temperature: 14C (57F).

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  15. Weather: Dry with clear spells tonight and fine tomorrowpublished at 17:45 British Summer Time 17 May 2018

    Dan Downs
    Weather Forecaster

    It will stay fine this evening with lots of late sunshine.

    It will then stay dry through tonight with mainly clear skies.

    Minimum temperature: 6 to 9C (43 to 48F)

    Weather in Jersey and Guernsey

    On Friday it will be another dry and fine day with long spells of sunshine with a light breeze.

    Maximum temperature: 11 to 14C (52 to 57F)

  16. Assisted dying: Debate will run into tomorrowpublished at 17:35 British Summer Time 17 May 2018

    Chris Quevatre
    BBC News Online

    With more than ten deputies left to speak, we're going to go into tomorrow.

    Lindsay De Sausmarez has spoken in support of the proposals, so that's one tick on the side of assisted dying.

    Deputy Jennifer Merritt was next up, and started - as many deputies have - by thanking the public for their engagement on this issue.

    She's going to vote in favour of assisted dying proposals.

    But that's going to have to wait until tomorrow because we're adjourning - there are too many speeches left to warrant extending the day.

    We'll be back tomorrow, and the States of Guernsey will be back in session at 09:30.

  17. Assisted dying: 'An appalling piece of work'published at 16:53 British Summer Time 17 May 2018

    Chris Quevatre
    BBC News Online

    "The people of Guernsey want a practical decision."

    Deputy Peter Ferbrache described his younger self as a long-haired radical.

    I'm not sure why he's mentioned it, but it's an interesting image.

    He also said that he believes the majority of islanders are in favour of assisted dying, but played down how relevant public opinion is.

    "We are not delegates, we have to vote on our conscience."

    Peter Ferbrache

    Deputy Ferbrache is now talking emotively about the death of his mother, and said the time spent at her bedside while she was in a coma was "so valuable" to him and his sisters.

    He then goes on to criticise the way in which the proposals have been brought before the States, and said it was particularly disappointing given the proposer and seconder were on Guernsey's most senior committee.

    "The first attempt of the requete was an appalling piece of work - it was almost offensive."

    Deputy Peter Ferbrache will be voting against assisted dying.

  18. Assisted dying: 'Aiding and abetting'published at 16:14 British Summer Time 17 May 2018

    Chris Quevatre
    BBC News Online

    Deputy Jan Kuttelwascher is on his feet to address the States of Guernsey.

    We know how he feels after this outburst yesterday morning...

    He talks about how he disagrees with a third party being involved in someone's death, and calls it "aiding and abetting".

    He confirms that he will be voting against assisted dying.

    As will Alderney representative Louis Jean, who has managed to bring up Aurigny in his speech, and their apparent "losses".

    I bet Aurigny didn't think they'd get a mention today.

  19. Assisted dying: 'One unwanted death would be too many'published at 15:58 British Summer Time 17 May 2018

    Chris Quevatre
    BBC News Online

    Deputy Chris Green says we need the wisdom of Solomon to make this decision.

    "It is absolutely right that this parliament has had the chance to have this debate - and I say that as someone who will be voting against the requete."

    Chris GreenImage source, Chris Green

    Deputy Green goes on to say that "when all is said and done" he does not believe that any assisted dying law could totally protect vulnerable people.

    "One unwanted death would be too many."

  20. Assisted dying: 'I don't want faith to affect my treatment'published at 15:53 British Summer Time 17 May 2018

    Chris Quevatre
    BBC News Online

    "I wish more people with faith had faith in society."

    As one of the politicians who brought the proposals before the States, Deputy Barry Brehaut - or @DeputyBaz as he's known on Twitter - is going to be voting in favour of assisted dying.

    Barry Brehaut

    Deputy Brehaut is aiming a few comments at those people who have spoken about their faith during this debate.

    While saying that he "respects people of faith", he added: "I don't want anyone else's faith to affect any treatment I get."