The first person on Mars 'should be a woman'

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Allison McIntyre
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Allison McIntyre manages a huge astronaut training centre at Johnson Space Center

A senior Nasa engineer has said the first person to set foot on Mars should be a woman.

Allison McIntyre, who puts prospective space travellers through their paces at Johnson Space Center in Houston, noted that all 12 people who have walked on the Moon were men.

She believes women should be at the forefront if and when the agency sends its first human missions to Mars.

BBC Radio 5 live has been behind the scenes at Nasa in Texas and Florida.

They have been meeting women at the forefront of the 21st century space race.

It's more than half a century since Russia sent the first woman into space, and 40 years since Nasa selected its first female astronaut.

But there still hasn't been a woman on the Moon, and women remain under represented in science and engineering industries on both sides of the Atlantic.

Allison has an incredible view from her office window - on to the floor of the Space Vehicle Mockup Facility at Johnson Space Center in Houston.

This huge building is packed with full-size versions of International Space Station (ISS) modules and other spacecraft, where astronauts train before going into space.

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A training mockup of Orion, which may one day take humans to Mars

Allison is in charge of the facility: "I love it. They're going to have to take me out of here kicking and screaming when it's time for me to do something else."

She's been with Nasa for nearly 30 years and has seen huge changes in that time: "My centre director is a woman, my former division chief is a woman, we have female astronauts, but we haven't put a woman on the Moon yet, and I think the first person on Mars should be a woman."

Nasa astronaut Karen Nyberg has already spent more than six months in space aboard the ISS.

"When I was selected as an astronaut in 2000, I thought that might be a realistic possibility that we would be the next to go to the Moon, so it's unfortunate we weren't."

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Nasa astronaut Karen Nyberg went to space when her son was 3.

On the prospect of women walking on the Moon, Karen said: "It will happen. There's a lot of politics, money is needed, so it's really hard to see it not go faster. Eventually it will happen."

President Trump has spoken of his desire to see American astronauts return to the Moon, a shift from Barack Obama's focus on Mars.

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Kavya Manyapu is developing Boeing's Starliner spacecraft, to take astronauts to the ISS

Kavya Manyapu is among those hoping to follow in Karen's footsteps, having spent most of her life dreaming of becoming an astronaut.

She's currently working at Johnson, where her employer Boeing is developing a spacecraft for Nasa to ferry astronauts to the ISS.

"There have been times [during my studies] when I've been the only female engineer among 70 men. That didn't strike me until I had to use the bathroom and there was a long line in the men's restroom and I was the only one using the women's.

"It would be awesome and inspiring, to have a woman take the first steps on Mars... and I don't mind volunteering for that!"

Flight director Emily Nelson agrees that the failure to put a woman on the Moon is as much a reflection of changing priorities within the space industry: "We haven't seen anybody on the Moon for a while!"

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Flight director Emily Nelson is responsible for overseeing the ISS from mission control in Houston

From Emily's desk in the mission control room at Johnson, she's responsible for keeping astronauts safe aboard the ISS.

"We've devoted a lot of time to building our knowledge base about flying in space in general. When we last went to the moon, our ability to stay there for any length of time was really limited.

"We needed to take some time to make more robust technologies - to be able to build life support systems and space suits and systems that would allow you to stay for a while."

Russian President Vladimir Putin has talked recently about Russian missions to the Moon and Mars, but Emily isn't excited by the prospect of a new "space race".

"You would get inflated budgets, but if your goal is just to beat somebody, what do you do when you achieve that goal? The goal should be something sustainable, something that means something for furthering humanity's reach into the Universe.

"We've kind of grown past that. We don't need to compete like we were doing back then."

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Gioia Massa is working out how to grow plants in space, and potentially one day on other planets

Gioia Massa is a project manager in Nasa's Veggie Lab at Kennedy Space Center.

She is experimenting and testing different methods of growing food, so that plants can be grown in space.

As humans go further in space, the more important it becomes that they can grow food rather than take everything with them.

They also use an artificial soil which is designed to replicate the surface of Mars.

Gioia said she has often found herself to be the "only woman in the room".

She said that if she has suffered discrimination during her career, she might not have noticed because she's often "off in my own little scientific world".

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Misty Snopkowski says she was 'nerdy' at school, now she's working on sending astronauts back to space from Kennedy Space Center

Misty Snopkowski's role with Nasa involves working with Elon Musk's Space X, who, like Boeing, are aiming to send astronauts to the ISS.

She says the excitement around their recent launches reminds her of the days of the space shuttle, the iconic spacecraft which flew 135 missions between 1981 and 2011.

Misty said: "When I was a little girl I was always into science, always into maths. I liked Star Trek: The Next Generation, I was a total nerd like that in high school."

When Misty took her first engineering job, she was the only woman among 200 men.

"I found I had to work a lot harder than my colleagues, to make sure I always had the answer, that I wasn't ever behind.

"I would love to see a female administrator. That's a huge job, and that would be great for Nasa."

But if a woman does set foot on Mars, or the Moon, in the coming years it won't be Misty: "I get motion sickness really bad! I will be the person to help you get there, but I won't be going myself."

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