Keir Starmer 'shocked' by Rishi Sunak trans jibe in Commons

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Sir Keir Starmer and Chris Mason

Sir Keir Starmer says he was "shocked" by Rishi Sunak's jibe about his definition of a woman while Brianna Ghey's mother was visiting Parliament.

The prime minister had earlier accused him of using the transgender teenager's murder to distract from his U-turns.

But the Labour leader told the BBC Mr Sunak had a duty to make every person in the country "feel safe", saying it was about "basic decency and respect".

Mr Sunak is continuing to resist calls for an apology for his words to MPs.

Brianna's father has called on the prime minister to apologise, but in a BBC interview on Friday, he repeatedly denied making a transgender joke.

"That is not what I did, it is wrong to say that," he told Radio Somerset.

"What happened was a tragedy and using that to try and detract from the completely separate and very clear point I was making about Keir Starmer and his proven track record of U-turning on multiple policy issues because he doesn't have a plan.

"To drag someone's family in the face of tragedy into politics like this, I don't think it's right. I think it's sad and it's wrong," he said.

Speaking in Cornwall on Thursday, Mr Sunak had defended his original comments during his exchanges with Sir Keir during Prime Minister's Questions as "absolutely legitimate", and accused Sir Keir of demonstrating "the worst of politics".

"I've nothing but the most heartfelt sympathy for [Brianna Ghey's] entire family and friends," he said.

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Watch: Rishi Sunak chose not to apologise to Brianna Ghey's father over a trans comment in the Commons

In an interview with BBC political editor Chris Mason, Sir Keir responded by saying Mr Sunak "shouldn't have said what he said in Prime Minister's Questions and he should apologise. The idea that I'm responsible for his words is through the looking glass.

"I think Rishi Sunak needs to do the decent thing, stop blaming everybody else - he said those words - actually bear some responsibility, do the right thing which is apologise."

Sir Keir added that he was "genuinely shocked" the prime minister "used those words" in front of the mother of a murdered girl.

"I'm not the only one, most of the Conservative MPs in the chamber went immediately quiet. This is not about party politics, it's about the basic decency and respect that matters to me.

"The role of the prime minister is to make sure that every single citizen, whatever their identity, their belief or background, every single person in this country should feel safe and should feel respected, and the prime minister broke that role yesterday and yes I was shocked."

The exchange that triggered the row took place in the Commons as Mr Sunak listed what he described as a number of Labour U-turns, accusing Sir Keir of changing his position on "defining a woman".

"Although in fairness, that was only 99% of a U-turn," he added. The comment referenced an interview in which Sir Keir said 99.9% of women do not have a penis when discussing the rights of people to identify as a different gender to the one they were born.

Sir Keir replied: "Of all the weeks to say that, when Brianna's mother is in this chamber. Shame.

"Parading as a man of integrity when he's got absolutely no responsibility."

Brianna's mother, Esther Ghey, said in a statement she did not want to comment on the remarks as her "focus is on creating a positive change and a lasting legacy for Brianna". She is supporting a campaign for mindfulness in schools.

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Watch: Sunak makes trans jibe to Starmer at PMQs

Esther Ghey was not in the public gallery on Wednesday for the exchange between the two leaders at Prime Minister's Questions, but arrived shortly afterwards.

Sixteen-year-old Brianna was murdered after being lured to a park and stabbed 28 times by teenagers Scarlett Jenkinson and Eddie Ratcliffe.

Asked about the prime minister's comments, Commons leader Penny Mordaunt said Mr Sunak was a "good and caring man", adding: "I'm sure that he has reflected on things.

"And that is not just about Mr and Mrs Ghey, that he should reflect on, but I am sure he is also reflecting about people who are trans or who have trans loved ones and family, some of whom sit on these green benches.

"I hope the leader of the opposition will also reflect on his actions too.

"This government has been right to protect the safety and dignity of woman at each stage of doing so has sought to bring certainty and assurance to trans people.

"This government is also right to hold the opposition to account for its multiple inconsistencies and u-turns on its policy platform."

But former minister Paul Scully said Mr Sunak should apologise. Speaking on the BBC's Politics Live, the Conservative MP said: "If it was me I would probably pick up the phone to Brianna's father."

He added he had "no doubt that Rishi is compassionate" and accused opposition parties of whipping up "confected outrage" around the comments.