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We asked for your thoughts after Sunday's Premier League game between Nottingham Forest and Leeds.

Here are some of your comments:

Forest fans

Kristian Much better after the subs as it was pretty turgid stuff before then. Omari Hutchinson changed the game with his running and pace and Taiwo Awoniyi looked lively. Encouraging, and once Chris Wood, Ola Aina and Callum Hudson Odoi are back we should have enough to pull clear of danger.

James: Finally, but this Forest has come too late. Sean Dyche is the perfect fit but has a lot of work if Forest want to remain in the Premier League.

Andy: Glad to see Dychey give Hutchinson the minutes he deserves. Playing Dan Ndoye on the left and Omari on the right is the right choice for the system he's trying to put in place. Two goals proves it.

Ben: It feels like Forest have their identity back: they were resolute in defence, resilient when behind and persistent in attack. They deserved to win and the performance is consistent with the steady stabilising trajectory they have been on since Dyche took over. Great performances all over the pitch but what an impact from Hutchinson! More of that please!

Luke: The performance can be analysed, but it really was all about the three points, which we did deserve. It certainly gives me reason to believe we'll finish above Leeds and puts a much better perspective on the three results this week.

Leeds fans

Steve: When will Daniel Farke learn? You cannot play against any Premier League Teams with only 10 men, because as long as he plays Brenden Aaronson that's what he's doing. He is not Championship standard never mind Premier League. Farke is indecisive and out of his depth. Replace him now before it's too late.

Pete: Farke procrastinated today when he should have been more proactive with his changes just after the halfway mark. He waited for Dyche to play his cards and then we end up going behind before he's forced to change things. Too late as we were now chasing the game. Then he replaced our best player at left-back with an average winger who's not best at defending and gave away a penalty. Game over. Poor tactically from Farke. I like him but I think he's brought pressure on himself and I wouldn't be surprised if the owners use the international break to replace him.

Robbie: Ethan Ampadu has to be moved back next to Joe Rodon, as they were last season. We have enough quality in midfield to cover his place. Dan James and Willy Gnonto have to start when fit. And a proven striker!

Mark: Four defeats in five games and with Aston Villa, Manchester City, Chelsea and Liverpool in the next four, it's a worrying time, especially with West Ham and Nottingham Forest, immediately below us, seemingly turning a corner. Still not clinical enough up front and beginning to leak at the back. It's a concern. We could be bottom two before Christmas.

Ian: Lacked a quality flair player in midfield, more attacking options and played a left-winger at left-back! The board should have done better business over the summer especially up front.

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The latest episode of BBC Radio Leeds' Don't Go To Bed Just Yet podcast discusses Leeds boss Daniel Farke's future after United lost 3-1 at Nottingham Forest on Sunday.

"Everyone wants him to get sacked. The board are not going to sack him, whether or not I think they should," said Simon Rix.

"The thing that's applied the pressure to Farke is nothing to do with him. It's the fact that West Ham, with the back-to-back wins, and then Forest very directly beating us, but also appointing Sean Dyche, everyone is feeling that those two teams are on the up and Leeds are spiralling into the downward motion.

"Now we've got two weeks of no football, and everyone's just on social media saying 'Farke out', which is no good for anyone.

"A win does a lot of lifting, so it's difficult. Daniel's got to do something. If we just do the same thing, expecting it to work, it's not going to work. Leeds feel quite easy to play against and easy to work out.

"He's an offensive manager and maybe he's trying to do something he's not good at, but maybe he has to revert to type.

"If it doesn't work, fine, but at least then he gets sacked doing his thing."

Listen to the full episode on BBC Sounds

Pundits Wayne Rooney and Danny Murphy join host Gabby Logan to bring you the action and talking points from Sunday's Premier League fixtures.

Watch on BBC iPlayer here

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• Aston Villa 4-0 Bournemouth

• Brentford 3-1 Newcastle

• Crystal Palace 0-0 Brighton

• Nottingham Forest 3-1 Leeds

• Man City 3-0 Liverpool

Emlyn Begley
BBC Sport journalist

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Leeds United's major frustration in the 3-1 defeat by Nottingham Forest will be that they could not even hold on to their lead for three minutes.

They battled hard but were lacking in quality.

After Nmecha's 13th-minute goal they had to wait until the 78th minute to force a save from Matz Sels, with substitutes Daniel James and Dominic Calvert-Lewin testing the keeper late on.

Now, they only sit one point above the relegation zone.

Leeds boss Daniel Farke, speaking to BBC Match Of The Day 2 after their 3-1defeat by Nottingham Forest: "Football games on this level are decided with small details. We have to make sure we are more switched on. We concentrate on the things we can influence and should have defended the cross situation. It was crucial.

"We didn't didn't follow their full-back and that can happen but not after we've just celebrated. We lost two 50/50 duels and then the cross comes in. We could have defended the situation more competitively.

"Dominic [Calvert-Lewin] has not trained the whole week. He had the ability to play about 30 minutes or whatever.

"We know our home form is always important. We could have made our life easier with some away points but it is how it is. I did expect a tricky period. We have conceded too many goals in the last two away games."

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Whether you were at the game or following from elsewhere, we want to know what you learned.

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Nottingham Forest XI: Sels, Savona, Milenkovic, Murillo, Williams, Sangare, Anderson, Ndoye, Gibbs-White, Dominguez, Igor Jesus.

Subs: John Victor, Morato, Awoniyi, Kalimuendo, Hutchinson, Yates, Jair Cunha, McAtee, Abbott.

Leeds XI: Lucas Perri, Bogle, Rodon, Bijol, Gudmundsson, Ampadu, Aaronson, Longstaff, Stach, Okafor, Nmecha.

Subs: Darlow, Struijk, James, Calvert-Lewin, Piroe, Harrison, Tanaka, Justin, Gruev.

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This is a big game for both teams because they could both really do with a positive result going into the international break.

Nottingham Forest nearly got over the line against Manchester United last week and they had a bit of spirit about the way they played, but Sean Dyche is still waiting for his first Premier League win with them and he will want to get that monkey off his back.

Leeds have done pretty well at Elland Road so far, but the only time they have picked up any points or even scored a goal away from home was when they beat bottom side Wolves in September.

Their fragility on the road means this is a great opportunity for Forest, even though they played away in Europe on Thursday.

Sutton's prediction: 2-0

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Tom McCoy
BBC Sport journalist

Nottingham Forest and Leeds United meet in the Premier League for just the third time this century. BBC Sport examines some of the key themes before Sunday's match.

Forest have not won a league match since beating Brentford on the opening weekend but can take heart from their excellent record against Leeds at the City Ground.

They have not lost a top-flight home game against the Yorkshire side since November 1971, when current manager Sean Dyche was just five months old.

Dyche earned his first Premier League point since taking charge in last weekend's 2-2 draw with Manchester United and said the performance was a "marked improvement", particularly in the second half.

But Forest were caught out twice from corners (the first awarded controversially), taking their total number of goals conceded from set-pieces to nine – a joint-league high prior to the latest round of fixtures.

Dyche will have to get his new side better organised defensively if they are to move away from the relegation zone.

Forest have not kept a clean sheet in the Premier League since beating United on 1 April, and their run of 18 consecutive games without a shut-out is the longest by a current top-flight club.

Leeds' struggles on the road

A Leeds win would send them eight points clear of their opponents but Daniel Farke's side have struggled away from home this season and were well beaten at Brighton last weekend.

Farke conceded the Seagulls deserved their 3-0 victory, acknowledging "it was not our best game offensively" whilst adding "it happens sometimes that the attack doesn't have the best of days".

The problem for Farke is those bad days have been regular occurrences away from Elland Road.

The Whites have conceded the opening goal in all five of their top-flight matches on the road this season, failing to score in all but one of those fixtures.

The three away goals they have netted all came in a 15-minute flurry immediately before half-time in September's 3-1 win at Wolves, when they scored with three consecutive shots.

Aside from that purple patch at Molineux, their other 40 attempts on the road have all been unsuccessful.

Grace Wheeler
BBC Sport journalist

Leeds United boss Daniel Farke has been speaking to the media before Sunday's Premier League game against Nottingham Forest at the City Ground (kick-off 14:00 GMT).

Here are the key lines from his news conference:

• Dominic Calvert-Lewin picked up an injury in his last game. Moyes said: "It was an abductor strain. It will be tight, so we will make a late call. He is not in team training, but we have a few more days and we won't take any risks."

• On Sebastiaan Bornauw: "He got a hit against his MCL so there is a question mark."

• On Wilfried Gnonto: "He has been back in training for two full weeks. It's good to see him back in training, so we will see if we take him. It's not a risk any more because he is back in training."

• On Dan James: "In terms of fitness, he is back and ready to start again. We need him but we need to find a good balance on creators. Dan fits several of our winger types, so we need to find who starts the game."

• Farke spoke about the pressure of scoring goals: "We are a newly promoted side, so you can't expect us to make as many chances as Haaland does for Manchester City. Our strikers know our position and we just want to score enough goals to stay in this league. The main thing is that we are successful as a team. I don't judge my players on their goals and assists its also about there workload is quite important. It's not that we are not brave enough - we just don't make enough chances."

• Farke said his approach to this season is that it is "never a must-win game", adding: "What we want to achieve is a point average per game. I am just addicted to winning as many games as we need to stay in the league."

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Leeds United's Welsh duo Ethan Ampadu and Joe Rodon believe there is a "great balance" between them, which helps them work so well together.

Captain Amapdu joined the Whites from Chelsea in 2023 and Rodon also came to the club in the 2023-24 season, initially on loan before signing permanently in the summer of 2024.

Asked about what he admired most about Rodon, Ampadu told BBC Radio Leeds: "Work ethic. Professionalism. How hard he wants to work, not just for the team but for himself.

"That combination of wanting to make himself better, wanting the team to be at their best, he knows and we know the standards that this team can deliver at and when it's not, then it's not right. Joe is a big driver in making sure that our standards are there. His performances and how he's growing is evidence to that.

"He's starting to show everyone what he can really do. I've basically been with him every single day for the past three years - not even including work [together] before that - so I have been lucky to see closely just how hard he works and his mental drive."

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Team-mates in the Wales side, both have once again been called up to represent their nation in the upcoming internationals this month.

Discussing Ampadu's captaincy, Rodon said: "[He is] driving the standards. Just constantly being available and just never letting anything slip - constantly, every day.

"Like you saw last year [in the Championship], it was so gruelling mentally and physically, but he was constantly driving the team and lifting the team spirit all the time.

"We find he's always got the calm head. He's told me off a few times with that, but no, I think credit to him and him being captain. He's like the butterfly of the dress and everyone loves him

"I'll go to him [with things] and there's a great balance there with us two. It works well."

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Leeds, Everton, Barcelona and Real Madrid are among the other clubs interested in 20-year-old Manchester United and England midfielder Kobbie Mainoo. (Caught Offside), external

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With the countdown to the Celebrity Traitors final under way, we asked you which Leeds player or manager - past or present - would make the best traitor and faithful.

Here are some of your comments:

Eric: Joe Rodon could actually be nominated for both - traitor for his runs and headers in the box from set-pieces, and faithful for his generally stalwart defensive abilities. However, if he cannot be awarded both titles then Ao Tanaka for traitor, with his covert runs on the back post from set-pieces, often catching defenders out as they concentrate on the usual suspects.

Mark: Obviously the biggest traitor ever to play for Leeds was Eric Cantona for going to Manchester United. Dan James is very loyal.

Vinny: Traitor - Alan Smith. Faithful - Luke Ayling.

Joe: The biggest traitor is a tie between Thomas Brolin and Harry Kewell. For loyalty, Jack Charlton, Gary Kelly, Billy Bremner and the Gray dynasty.

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Challenges. Leaders and followers. Tactics. Second guessing and wondering where to turn next.

This could be any game of football in the Premier League this weekend.

It is also the plot to any episode of BBC's hit show - The Traitors.

The countdown to the end game of the Celebrity series is on, but, while we wait for that, we want to know which Leeds player (or manager) - past or present - you think would make the best traitor, and who would be more suited to the role of a faithful.

Was it the way they could appear at the back post without anyone noticing? Or could they stop anybody getting past them?

Get in touch with your choices and the reasons why here

The Celebrity Traitors final will air on Thursday, 6 November on BBC One and iPlayer

Nicola Pearson
BBC Sport journalist

How much difference can a point make at this stage of the season?

Potentially, quite a lot. Particularly so for those promoted sides trying to keep themselves in the Premier League for another year.

In the past 10 seasons, clubs who have come up from the Championship have a 100% record of staying up if they have gathered 11 points or more after 10 games.

The most recent occasion that a promoted side had 11 or more points after that number of matches and was relegated was Cardiff in 2013-14. They were 12th with 12 points after 10 games but ultimately finished bottom with 30 points.

This will be music to the ears of fans of Leeds United and Sunderland, with the Whites currently sitting on that magic number and four points clear of the relegation zone, despite a heavy defeat at Brighton on Saturday.

The Black Cats, in fact, might even find themselves already looking up rather than down after their flying start to life back in the top flight.

Regis le Bris' side currently find themselves fourth, separated from Liverpool in third by just goal difference.

With 18 points, Sunderland would have to make unwanted history to find themselves back in the Championship by becoming the first team to be relegated after picking up that number of points after 10 games.

Although it was unlikely against the league leaders, fellow promoted side Burnley could have also reached the 11-point mark if they had managed to take something against Arsenal on Saturday, but defeat has left them on the edge of that with 10 points.

Chances of survival drop quite drastically for teams below the 11-point threshold, with just 20% of sides on eight to 10 points after 10 games staying up since 2015-16.

With promoted clubs having struggled to break the Premier League mould in recent campaigns, can this season's trio turn that tide? It is a promising start.

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Adonis Storr
Fan writer

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The highlights reel for Leeds United's 'goal of the month' for October was short – two tap-ins and a header. It did not get the pulse racing.

Although there were only three games last month, a pattern is starting to emerge: Leeds' attack, in its current form, is not good enough.

This topsy-turvy start to the season has seen decent performances against Spurs and Burnley end in losses; while a worryingly poor outing against West Ham resulted in a win.

Our recent form hit rock-bottom away at Brighton last weekend.

When United don't create chances they look a division apart from the rest of the Premier League. When they do create chances their inefficiency in front of goal has frustrated.

And the easier games are gone. Leeds' upcoming fixtures are mired with potential losses.

Forest away looks the easiest of a resurgent Villa, followed by games against Manchester City, Chelsea and Liverpool.

Brentford away is tricky – Leeds don't travel well to London; then comes FA Cup holders Palace, Sunderland away – a nightmare, then Liverpool, Manchester United and Newcastle at St. James' Park.

It is not inconceivable Leeds could go without another victory until maybe January 17 when they play Fulham at home – no game is a guaranteed win, but that fixture looks easier.

But Leeds will need to find victories from somewhere.

This is a test, not just for the playing side, but also for the owners 49ers Enterprises. Their ponderous acquisition of Rangers in the summer hasn't started well, with the sacking of Russell Martin after only four months in charge.

If Leeds go on a run of defeats over this tricky Christmas period, will they sack or back Daniel Farke in January?

This crunch period will be the biggest test so far for Farke and the 49ers; and how they handle it will define Leeds' season.

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We asked for your memories of 4 November, 2000 - the day Mark Viduka scored all four Leeds goals in a 4-3 win over Liverpool.

Here are some of your comments:

Andy: I remember the game very well, even though I didn't watch it live! I was away in Arizona for a work meeting and decided to stay on over the weekend to explore. I was driving through Saguaro National Park in a hired convertible listening to the game on the World Service. Couldn't believe what I was hearing! It was an absolutely fabulous day!

Andrew: This game holds a very special place in my heart, not just because of Viduka's four-goal heroics but also because it was the first ever football match I took my son to, aged six. "That was great, Dad," he said at the end of the match. "The shooter man for Leeds is really really good !" I couldn't have put it better myself! Thanks for an awesome memory, Mark Viduka!

Eamonn: I'd invited a friend and his grandson over from Norway to that game. At half-time I apologised to them for our sad performance. As the game went on and Viduka hit the back of the net, with each touch the guests became more and more excited. At the end, the grandson was dancing and his grandad was taking their once-in-a-lifetime experience bubbling back to Norway. I sent them the match video as a souvenir. Another couple of Leeds fans confirmed in Porsgrunn. Wonderful day!

Brian: Apart from my son's birth, this was the greatest moment in my life. Mark Viduka scoring four goals against Liverpool was just amazing.

Matthew: I was at the game and it was really quite remarkable - the atmosphere and the comeback. After 10 minutes I thought Liverpool were going to get a cricket score, but it was one of the best ever performances I've seen live.

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That 4-3 victory 25 years ago today was incredible.

I remember going with clients when I worked at TEAMtalk on a bitterly cold November Saturday. It looked all over for Leeds as Liverpool went 2-0 up but Mark Viduka took centre stage as if he was an emperor. His physicality combined with deftness of touch and lethal finishing provided one of the best display I've ever seen by a centre forward in a single game.

I have since interviewed Andrew Varley, who is the photographer responsible for the iconic picture of Viduka celebrating with the scoreboard saying 4-3 in the background. It was a moment a hero was captured on film after single-handedly destroying Liverpool who had won five in a row coming into the fixture.

Their collapse was spectacular but if I'm asked for my stand out Premier League moments then Viduka's display is right up there.

In terms of working with Viduka, he had left the club before I started covering Leeds United full time but I do recall him not wanting to do an interview after a testimonial match for Cambridge United striker John Taylor in November 2003 when he was brought back into the team by caretaker manager Eddie Gray having fallen out with previous boss Peter Reid.

That season ended in relegation from the Premier League and I recall being at Bolton Wanderers when Leeds were effectively relegated. Viduka scored a penalty and was then sent off before half time as United went on to lose 4-1. This was a year after his magnificent goal at Arsenal helped Leeds stay in the top flight. He was top drawer and I remember Eddie Gray saying that contrary to many people's perceptions Viduka was "ripped" in terms of his body shape. In the end he was part of the fire sale that saw him go to Middlesbrough as Leeds plummeted towards financial meltdown.

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Mark Viduka found the net four times against Liverpool on this day 25 years ago but the Australian striker proved his biggest critic in the years that followed, explaining it was a day when he wasn't at his best.

The bustling centre-forward has received widespread plaudits from key names in the years since his playing career ended. Former Leeds and Manchester United striker Alan Smith described his skill as "frightening" for a big man. Former Leeds left-back Ian Harte cites Viduka and Harry Kewell as the best two players he ever played alongside.

But Viduka's toying with Liverpool in the winter sun was surely his peak moment as he led the Reds' defence a merry dance, dragged Leeds back from 2-0 down and sealed an iconic 4-3 win.

"That was a huge game for me and also at the time for the club because we were up there, third or fourth and Liverpool just in front of us," Viduka said.

"We are 2-0 down and Jonathan Woodgate gets taken off with injury. Nobody would have thought of that result in the end. It shows you have to stick to it and keep battling.

"When I look at myself I am not really a perfectionist at anything except for on the field. When I look at my performance I want to be holding the ball up well, bringing others into the play and obviously scoring gals. In that game, the other things I did average, but I got four chances and put them away."

Dominic Matteo featured in the Leeds defence on the day and had a simple message for Viduka when the final whistle confirmed their win - "thanks".

Matteo said: "People at times, and we're talking top defenders, didn't want to get too tight because they knew Viduka could turn them. We saw that in the 4-3 game when he made something out of nothing.

"I actually said 'thanks' for getting us out of one. It was only going one way that game apart from Mark. He just turned it himself.

"I am glad he got that. In life you don't get those moments. The worldwide audience, everyone saw that performance. That was iconic for me."

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