Sutton's predictions: Brentford v West Hampublished at 11:14 28 September 2024
11:14 28 September 2024
Chris Sutton is making predictions for all 380 Premier League matches this season, against a variety of guests.
For week six, he takes on Maximo Park singer Paul Smith, whose latest album, Stream Of Life, is out on Friday.
Brentford host West Ham at 15:00 BST on Saturday.
Sutton's prediction: 2-1
Julen Lopetegui needs a result and he needs a performance, the West Ham way... whatever that is under him.
Their fans wanted a change, and they got the change... and I think they have expected a much better start than the one they have got.
On top of the result, what was worrying about last week's home defeat by Chelsea was how vulnerable the Hammers looked defensively. If they were solid at the back it would give them something to build on until they click up front, but there was not much to build on there.
West Ham were miles off in that game, and ended up well beaten by Liverpool in the Carabao Cup on Wednesday night too. The Reds were very fortunate with how they scored their first goal, but it feels like everything is going against Lopetegui at the moment.
Brentford are always superbly organised and carry a goal threat. They went ahead against Manchester City and Tottenham in their past two league games and although they ended up losing both, they ran Spurs very close and gave City plenty to think about too.
Even without the injured Yoane Wissa, the Bees are a well-balanced team - and probably not the kind of opposition that West Ham need or want right now.
Smith's prediction: 3-1
For the last few games I have been expecting it to click for West Ham, and that Niclas Fullkrug would score some goals, but it hasn't happened. They have got some good players but they just seem to be in such a rut that I can't see them winning this one either.
Brentford have lost their last two league games but both times they created so many chances and have gone for it. I am expecting them to go for it again here and, if West Ham aren't at it, Brentford could win comfortably.
What next for clubs in bottom seven?published at 13:13 27 September 2024
13:13 27 September 2024
Former Premier League midfielder Michael Brown has been speaking to the Football News Show about the teams who have struggled to get points on the board so far.
Everton
"Sean Dyche understands the pressure. He is comfortable in his surroundings, he’s got broad shoulders but the pressure is starting to mount. The supporters are grumbling, but they need to try and relax.
"There is rumblings regarding the manager and the style he is going to have to try and play. It is a totally different ball game in the Premier League."
Wolves
"What is surprising everyone is how good Wolves were last season compared to their start this term. It was an incredible run from Gary O’Neil. He has lost players [over the summer] and I think he needed a bit more support in the transfer window. We can all see that he will be disappointed.
"They have a tough game against Liverpool next, so it does not get any easier."
West Ham
"Getting beat 5-1 by Liverpool is not a true reflection of them. Early on in the game they had several chances. Even into the second half when they were 2-1 down, there was a couple of good opportunities. They brought on Kudus, Paqueta and Antonio so there were several changes.
"But what was disappointing, is that they went down to 10 men with Alvarez having the second yellow card and then it was capitulation. That is what the manager did not need.
"They did not seem to have the gritty style what West Ham have had. Julen Lopetegui wants to be more attractive, more aggressive, at the top of the pitch and that is not coming to light at this moment in time. There is a lot of work to do and the pressure is mounting. West Ham fans wanted the change [of manager] but it is going to take him a little bit of time."
West Ham have conceded more goals in 2024 than any other current Premier League side (53), with the Hammers shipping three or more goals in eight different games so far this calendar year.
What's with the dark arts?published at 07:58 27 September 2024
07:58 27 September 2024
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There has been a lot of conversation this week about "dark arts" in football following the draw between Manchester City and Arsenal on Sunday.
Realistically, everyone who has watched football for longer than one game has seen things they would perceive as "dark arts"; whether it is a player always going down winning free-kicks to take the sting out of the game, kicking the ball into row Z when there was no multi-ball system or time-wasting on goal-kicks.
These are things we see all the time but our perception of it is dependent on the context of a game. You always see some version of it somewhere, and you hope your team would be doing the same thing if in the same situation - because why should you do something that would benefit the opposition you are against?
It is the same as going down a bit more easily to win penalties - some people will say "this guy is a cheat", but then on the other side of their mouth, if it is something that could benefit them, they say "he has tried too hard to stay up, he needed to go down there".
You can have rulings, Ifab can get involved to change this and that, but there will always be a way to push the rules to their limits.
What we saw with Arsenal in that game, where David Raya sat down to get some treatment while the teams gathered, we have seen those moments before. It is not just new to Arsenal - other teams do it.
It is always based on certain moments. You do get more frustrated if it happens against you, but when you need to do it, you encourage people to do it. That is one of the beauties of football - the way you see things is always going to be down to perception, context and just whether you think it is benefiting you or not.
Nedum Onuoha was speaking to BBC Sport's Phil Cartwright
Lopetegui on performances, new signings and deserving morepublished at 14:53 26 September 2024
14:53 26 September 2024
Josh Lobley BBC Sport Researcher
West Ham boss Julen Lopetegui has been speaking to the media before Saturday's Premier League trip to Brentford (kick-off 15:00).
Here are the key lines from his news conference:
On team news: "We will train now and will see again afterwards how they are. We have Edson out [due to suspension] and let’s see what will happen with the others between today and tomorrow. Unfortunately, Fullkrug was not available last night, so we will wait for this afternoon and tomorrow to see for him."
On Wednesday's Carabao Cup defeat by Liverpool: "It's always hard to have one less player in the match. It’s true that we did very good things for 75 minutes, but it was a very different end after the red card. We did positive things in my opinion and were close to winning the match. The boys worked very hard for 75 minutes but we have to accept the result."
Lopetegui says his side "deserve more" from the matches they've lost this season. He says his side have had "good moments" but admitted they need to be "more consistent" to win games.
He says that he is happy with the players brought in over the summer, adding: "Yesterday, three players were in the starting line-up for the first time. I'm happy with their commitment and performance. Step by step they are going to increase the level and our competitiveness."
More on the nine incomings: "I am happy with the new signings and they need time for adaptation. But in the mean time we have to be able to compete and be ready for the big challenge to face [Brentford]."
Spotlight on Steidtenpublished at 12:26 26 September 2024
12:26 26 September 2024
Simon Stone Chief football news reporter
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Another grim night for West Ham brought more negative headlines - and dark humour - around manager Julen Lopetegui.
The Hammers boss is at the centre of a storm around poor tactics and bad results and, to compound his misery, left Anfield on crutches after the 5-1 Carabao Cup defeat by Liverpool after injuring his calf.
Outsiders are pointing out the situation is no better than it was under David Moyes, who left the club in the summer after four and a half seasons that included three European campaigns and West Ham's first trophy in 43 years.
But there should be some scrutiny also on technical director Tim Steidten.
The 45-year-old arrived at London Stadium with an impressive reputation following his time at Werder Bremen and Bayer Leverkusen. But he did not develop a close working relationship with Moyes and his fingerprints are all over the Hammers' summer recruitment campaign, including bringing in Lopetegui.
If there is an overall plan, it is Steidten's. He must take his share of the responsibility.
Late goals leave 'really dismal feel' - Upsonpublished at 08:29 26 September 2024
08:29 26 September 2024
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Former West Ham centre-back Matthew Upson, reacting to the Hammers' 5-1 loss at Liverpool in the Carabao Cup on BBC Radio 5 Live:
"You can't excuse the decision-making of Edson Alvarez. Both yellow cards were just ridiculous tackles in areas of the pitch where he doesn't need to make them.
"He's cost his team and he's put a lot more pressure on the manager because I think the performance in the second half, in elements, showed a little bit of fight and quality. To do that and then collapse at the end heaps the pressure on even more.
"Defensively, they haven't been sound. They are struggling and it needs something to bring it together. It needs a partnership in that area of the pitch. I'm not too sure if that's going to happen any time soon.
"There's a little bit of uncertainty in full-back positions, and when you're up against it with 10 men, you're defending in front of The Kop and you're disappointed because you should be back in the game... that's when it really gets tested.
"It leaves a really dismal feel about the evening and there were some positives in this game, unlike against Chelsea."
Liverpool 5-1 West Ham - the fans' verdictpublished at 08:28 26 September 2024
08:28 26 September 2024
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We asked for your thoughts after Wednesday's Carabao Cup game between Liverpool and West Ham.
Here are some of your comments:
Liverpool fans
Daniel: A bit slow and out of shape for the first 20 minutes of the game, which ultimately cost us a goal. But as soon as Diogo Jota scored, we started to find our rhythm again and the second half was much better. More clinical, more consistent and more productive going forward. Need to keep this momentum going as much as we can!
Chris: The 5-1 win is fab and going forward we look great. I wish for more from Darwin Nunez but his work rate is great. The downside is that we conceded a sloppy goal, and even Bradley let too many people ghost by him. Caiomhin Kelleher was fab too with lots of good saves and he was very commanding.
Callum: I had a feeling Liverpool would be at the races today. There’s a good group there that are dying to break into the first team and results like that are asking Slot the right questions. Come on you Reds.
West Ham fans
Mark: Deserved losers, but like all our defeats this season, the scoreline flatters the opposition. It's nice we now have a manager who makes substitutions, but he keeps getting the team selection wrong. Michail Antonio should have started.
James: Can’t help but feel hard done by. First goal looked like an offside in the buildup, second goal comes right after we should’ve had a penalty, third goal comes from a goal kick that should’ve been a corner to us. Fifth goal huge deflection. The scoreline did not reflect the game. Hoping some luck goes our way on Saturday.
Richard: Another horror show. This is starting to get worrying. Going forward, at times it looks slick and promising but the midfield is just not working hard enough to protect the defence. Apart from Crysencio Summerville, the new additions are just not up to speed.
'I'm sorry for our fans' - Lopeteguipublished at 06:56 26 September 2024
06:56 26 September 2024
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West Ham boss Julen Lopetegui, speaking to Sky Sports after his side were thrashed at Liverpool in the Carabao Cup: "We don't deserve this score because we did a lot of good things. We made a very good first half. They scored an offside goal [and] we suffered the first goal.
"After we had 10 players, they scored more goals. The last 20 minutes, we didn't manage well. The players made a big effort. We were in the match until this moment despite the referee decision.
"I'm sorry for our fans."
On Edson Alvarez's red card: "Second yellow card - it can happen. He can't play the next game. I'm very proud of the players who played until 60 minutes."
Liverpool 5-1 West Ham: Hammers suffer more Anfield painpublished at 23:09 25 September 2024
23:09 25 September 2024
Neil Johnston BBC Sport journalist
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How many 5-1 defeats to Liverpool can West Ham stomach?
For the second successive season, the Hammers were on the wrong end of a Carabao Cup mauling by Liverpool at Anfield.
Last season it was Curtis Jones (2), Dominik Szoboszlai, Mohamed Salah and Cody Gakpo on the scoresheet for the hosts in the quarter-finals.
Gakpo (2) and Salah were at it again on Wednesday, while Diogo Jota (2) also scored a brace.
Once again West Ham were well beaten but they also had penalty claims waved away Vladimir Coufal's cross hit Kostas Tsimikas in the stomach and then his arm.
On a deeply frustrating night, Danny Ings had a goal ruled out for offside while West Ham's mood did not improve when appeals for another penalty were ignored after the ball appeared to strike Joe Gomez's arm.
It was all too much for Julen Lopetegui, who ended the match with a yellow card.
Fortunately for Lopetegui, West Ham are not due to visit Anfield again until 12 April 2025.
Lopetegui faces big night at Liverpoolpublished at 11:24 25 September 2024
11:24 25 September 2024
Julen Lopetegui has made an inauspicious start at West Ham United since succeeding David Moyes and now faces an important clash with Liverpool on Wednesday.
The Carabao Cup third round may not rank highest on Lopetegui's list of priorities but a win at Anfield would ease some early nerves starting to swirl around east London.
Moyes' time at West Ham had come to a natural conclusion despite the Scot's fine work, which delivered long-awaited success in the Europa Conference League in 2023.
Lopetegui already has the unwanted distinction of being the first head coach in West Ham's history to suffer three straight losses at home at the start of the season.
West Ham were jeered off by supporters after they were comfortably beaten 3-0 by Chelsea on Saturday and they were only rescued by Danny Ings' 95th minute equaliser after being largely outplayed at Fulham in their previous game.
West Ham captain Jarrod Bowen delivered a brutally realistic assessment of the Chelsea game when he said they made it "easy" for Enzo Maresca's team.
And supporters hoping that Moyes' pragmatic style that frustrated some would be replaced by a thrill ride under Lopetegui have so far been disappointed - although they should not be surprised because that has never been the Spaniard's style.
Of course, it is very early to make any long-term prognosis on West Ham and Lopetegui will be given time but a win at Liverpool, traditionally such a tough assignment, would lead to an instant and significant change of mood.
West Ham spent big, around £120m, to support Lopetegui in the summer but signings are still settling in. French defender Jean-Clair Todibo may start at Anfield but striker Niclas Fullkrug has been missing after being injured on international duty with Germany.
The club showed their ambition in the markets, which almost inevitably reduces patience among supporters if good results do not come, but an advance into the fourth round of the Carabao Cup will carry the air of a statement from Lopetegui, a signal that he has the job in hand.
The competition may not mean quite as much as others to the Premier League's big hitters but it could play a vital role in kick-starting Lopetegui's reign and West Ham's season.
'It just needs time to get everyone firing'published at 09:51 25 September 2024
09:51 25 September 2024
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Former West Ham winger Matt Jarvis, speaking to BBC Radio 5 Live about the Hammers' inconsistent start to the Premier League season:
"The Chelsea defeat wasn't a great game. It's more that everyone is expecting this big change, it's going to be great football and it's going to be this and that, and it just wasn't. It was a worrying game.
"They have had a fantastic transfer window, it just needs time to get everyone firing now.
"Julen Lopetegui is definitely going to have the backing of the team because a lot of them are new and some of them have not been there that long. He's got exceptional players in there, it's just about trying to get everyone playing in the correct position and the correct style.
"He's already said he's got Todibo and Soler - that it's going to take time for them to settle in, which isn't great because they are big players who need to come in and make this team better."
Listen to live commentary of Liverpool v West Ham in the Carabao Cup third round on BBC Radio 5 Live from 20:00 BST
'Going out would be one less distraction in a transitional season'published at 15:58 24 September 2024
15:58 24 September 2024
James Jones Fan writer
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West Ham travel to Anfield to face Liverpool in the Carabao Cup third round on Wednesday night and everyone's expecting it to be a white wash.
For good reason, too.
Every single season, Liverpool away is pretty much the only fixture I write off as a loss straight away. That's because West Ham have won once at Anfield in 61 years and have only come away from Anfield as victors four times in the club's entire history. That's four wins in 72 attempts. A win percentage of just 6%. On top of that, the Hammers have beaten Liverpool just once in their last 17 meetings in all competitions.
Last season, at the quarter-final stage of the same competition, Liverpool thrashed us 5-1 at Anfield. It was the defeat that arguably kicked off fans' calls for David Moyes to leave the club, due to lack of effort to even try and cause the Reds problems in what was a potential opportunity to reach the semi-final against a heavily rotated Reds.
This time, there's less at stake other than the need to improve on recent performances. Julen Lopetegui is yet to get his team firing and working to the style and system he prefers, with just one win from his first six games as manager.
If we go out as expected then it'll be one less distraction in what is a big transitional season for the club. However, on the other hand, a good cup run could be exactly what Lopetegui needs to instil some confidence in him and the players for the fanbase.
But the main frustration is the third round draw was set up to give the clubs playing in Europe an advantage. It was dressed up as a way to avoid clashes with Champions League and Europa league fixtures by, ensuring those clubs couldn't be drawn against each other, with most of them guaranteed a home draw, too.
As if these clubs needed more of an advantage in a competition that has been won by one of the so called 'big six' in 18 of the last 20 seasons?
Lopetegui on Liverpool, injuries and being a team 'under construction'published at 12:45 24 September 2024
12:45 24 September 2024
Henry Brownsey BBC Sport journalist
West Ham boss Julen Lopetegui has been speaking to the media before Wednesday's Carabao Cup game against Liverpool (kick-off 20:00 BST).
Here are the key lines from his news conference:
There are "no new injuries," Niclas Fullkrug "is better" after missing the past two games and Lopetegui is hoping they "will have all the squad ready" for Anfield trip.
He is under no illusions about the difficult task his side face: "Big challenge for sure - we are going to be playing against the current champions of the competition and we are at Anfield. [There is] big ambition and big expectation."
He added: "Liverpool are a big team around the world. [Arne Slot] is a very good coach. He's showing that he's trying to continue the work from the last years and making it his style - I think they are doing very well."
Lopetegui said the Hammers will "face all the competitions with the intention to be able to go as far as possible."
The Hammers boss will shuffle his squad for the cup tie, confirming goalkeeper Lukas Fabianski will start: "For sure, there are going to be changes. We will be balanced, and put one team that can compete. But, always thinking that after we will talk about Brentford. All the players are ready to play and have the possibility to show themselves."
Guido Rodriguez was substituted before half-time against Chelsea and Lopetegui said the reasons behind it were "very simple": "When you change one player before half time, you think you need to change something. I explained to the players that it's not about going against one player, it's about going against my first decision and we have to accept this. I don't like to do this. He's an experienced player and he understands."
The Hammers remain "a team under construction" due to the fact they "have a lot of new players [and] players who have never played in the Premier League. They have to adapt as soon as possible."
Quality of chances key in Chelsea win over Hammerspublished at 12:22 23 September 2024
12:22 23 September 2024
West Ham had more possession, more shots, more shots on target and more touches in the opposition box than Chelsea on Saturday.
However, xG shows that the quality of chances was key to the final outcome - a 3-0 win for the visitors.
The chances West Ham created were of a lower quality, hence their xG number of less than one, while the chances they gave up to the Blues were very good.
Statistics collated by BBC Sport statistician Chris Collinson
'Like watching a school team'published at 10:46 23 September 2024
10:46 23 September 2024
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We asked for your thoughts after West Ham's heavy defeat by Chelsea in Saturday's Premier League match.
Here are some of your comments:
Matthew: Where do I begin? No effort; no desire; not tactically right; no formation; defence is shaky; losing tackles; not running back; passing is poor and way too slow for a rapid Chelsea team. Players that start are either out of form or too old and we have absolutely no end product. From what I’ve seen so far, sacking David Moyes seems to be a massive mistake.
Bob: I thought that Moyes was removed because he wasn't attacking enough in his tactics. I saw nothing here that shows West Ham have the slightest idea tactically how to perform - except badly. We cannot keep going through games without understanding that to win you need to stop the goals against while striving to score yourself.
Andy: Poorly set up. None of the new signings played at all well. We don’t look a team. Everyone going on about how good our window was are delusional. We needed a young quality striker. Very unimpressed with the new manager and our signings.
Tom: MBBC= Moyes back before Christmas.
Graham: An abject performance - no pressing to win back possession, no effort when in possession and no creativity. Only Mohammed Kudus emerged with any credit but that was for his solo efforts with no support. After all the money that's been spent, we should be seeing something more than this - it was more like watching a school team play.
Joe: Bad performance where we let the occasion of a London derby get to us as a team. Even if we were given that penalty claim, we had no way back into the game after letting in more soft goals. Looks like we need "more time for the team to gel together" every week we play. Expectations for this season are getting lower for me the more I watch us play.