"We want to come back tomorrow and get them out for 250 but a score of 300 would be good for them."
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But then Marlon Samuels jolted into life, finding the throttle after leaving his way to 50. His duel with Ben Stokes was the most compelling action of the day, while the returning Moeen Ali was wayward and punished. When the light closed in, Samuels was sitting on 94, his stand with Denesh Ramdin worth 59. The Windies 188-5, honours about even and nicely poised for an important first session tomorrow.
"Moores and Cook chose to bring Rashid out here and now you hear things like he is not bowling well enough in the nets and they do not have any faith in him. Rashid is the type of player who could be expensive but can take wickets. You need a captain that can handle a player going through periods of being expensive but can take wickets for you."
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The Windies battled hard, England weren't always at their best with the ball and three catches went down, yet, somehow, the home side were reduced to 129-5. Dwayne Bravo wasted some good work with a limp edge to slip off Stuart Broad, Shivnarine Chanderpaul loosely chipped Ben Stokes to gully and the impressive Chris Jordan pinned Jermaine Blackwood lbw. Soon after tea, the Windies were in trouble.
"I am not blaming the players for a slow day of the cricket it is the pitch. These are slow, turgid batting pitches and if you had two good teams you would need 10 days for the Test. I was not opposed England choosing to bowl but because the West Indies are not a good side. If it had been me I would have batted, I do not expect any imagination from Moores or Cook. This is a slow surface like the last one and on the last day you would have loved to swapped Rashid for another fourth seamer - who is just up and down."
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It seems a long time ago that England won the toss after a near two-hour rain delay and opted to field in conditions that seemed ideal for swing bowling. James Anderson certainly thought that was the case, bowling Brathwaite with an unplayable in-swinger, but some inconsistent bowling and watchful batting meant England had to wait until the end of the first session for their second breakthrough. Even then, it was an error, Devon Smith didn't hit one that was given caught behind off Chris Jordan. 36-2 at lunch.
Close of play scorecard
WI 188-5 (70 overs)
Batsmen: Samuels 94*, Ramdin 6*
Fall of wickets: 2-1 (Brathwaite 1), 28-2 (Smith 15), 65-3 (Bravo 35), 74-4 (Chanderpaul 1), 129-5 (Blackwood 26).
Bowling figures: Anderson 15-8-18-1, Broad 16-5-42-1, Jordan 16-3-40-2, Moeen 12-1-45-0, Stokes 10-4-33-1, Trott 1-0-2-0.
"I feel a little disappointed for the spectators, the players and Test match cricket because a lot of people came very far to watch a day where it was hard to score runs. It was hard for the batsman and bowlers to get on top. Crowds are going down and you are wanting people to watch Test cricket but I feel the groundsman here has ruined the pitch."
Close of play
WI 188-5
Finally, that is your lot. West Indies close on 188-5. Hard to tell who is on top, but we can say that the Windies would be a lot worse off had Marlon Samuels not weighed in with his unbeaten 94. Remember, they were 129-5 and would have bitten your hand for this position when James Anderson cleaned up Kraigg Brathwaite early this morning. England have been good in parts, not so good in others. They have dropped three catches.
Bad light stops play
WI 188-5
The umpires are still in the middle. The bails are off, the stumps are still in. The groundstaff want to get the covers on, but are being made to wait.
Bad light stops play
WI 188-5
It might not be the close, but we can say with certainty that bad light has stopped play. Everyone is marching off, James Anderson the last to go after a word with the umpires. It's hard to imagine a situation where the light will improve enough to bring them back out, but for now, we await the official close.
WI 188-5 (Samuels 94, Ramdin 6)
England, under umpire's orders, throw the ball to Moeen Ali. If they decide they've had enough, they could get one of the pacers on and see us to the close. If Moeen keeps bowling long hops, that's exactly what might happen. Samuels pulls for four, nearing a hundred. Hang on, where's everyone going? Is that it?
WI 184-5 (Samuels 90, Ramdin 6)
Hmmm, we've reached that time of the day when England can't summon any more efforts from their front-line bowlers, so ask Jonathan Trott to dob down his medium-pacers. Not really threatening, but at least it brings the Barmy Army song to the tune of the Only Fools and Horses theme. Tidy from Trott, a couple of singles from it. The umpires have a little chat about the light, with lightmeter out to take a reading. It's decided that there's only enough light for the spinners.
WI 182-5 (68 overs)
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Alastair Cook stands at slip, hands on hips and gum in mouth. He has a word with vice-skip Ian Bell, then starts counting the fielders, as if to make sure they are all there. "I'm sure we more than this when we started". Stokes, breathing hard, gets one past the bat of Samuels and into the batsman's thigh. That'll sting if it's missed the thigh pad. Getting darker again.
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Andrew Hornby: With Moeen Ali now finding his rhythm this would have been a great point in the game to have two spinners on, turning in both directions had they picked Adil Rashid instead of Stuart Broad. We know what Broad brings and Rashid might have been more suited to this wicket.
WI 180-5 (Samuels 88, Ramdin 4)
Moeen continues to wheel away, throwing his elbows out before twirling the ball down. A looper off the front pad of Samuels has both keeper and short leg interested, but nothing doing. When Moeen drops short, Samuels cuts for four to move nearer the 90s. Which team is happier at the moment? England would have wanted six or seven wickets after winning the toss and fielding, whereas the Windies are rebuilding with purpose. This stand is now worth 51.
WI 174-5 (66 overs)
Stokes slips in to his nemesis Samuels in light that seems to be improving. The Durham man has sweat glistening on his forehead and tattoos on both upper arms. I believe the cool kids call it "ink". No histrionics between Stokes and Samuels, who is denied runs to third man by the dive of Joe Root at gully. A maiden. I reckon there are 13 overs left in the day, if we can fit them in.
"Samuels has chanced his arm in the last half-an-hour to single-handedly try to bring some life into this game."
WI 174-5 (Samuels 83, Ramdin 4)
Moeen asks the question against Samuels, who was hiding his bat but still convinces Bruce Oxenford that he's playing a shot. Better from the brilliantly bearded Moeen, who has landed on a better length. On those surrounding hills, some local children try to get a kite flying. No joy.
Why are overthrows called 'buzzers'?
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Julia Ball in Stevenage: A "moll-buzzer" is archaic street slang for a pick pocket who targets women. "Buzzing" is picking pockets so presumably a "Buzzer" would be someone who steals on the sly....which is exactly what you do when "stealing" runs for an overthrow.
Simon Gleaden in Redford: I think "buzzers" as a term for overthrows originates at Eton College and that it was the Old Etonians Brian Johnston and Henry Blofeld who popularised it by using it on TMS.
WI 173-5
Still Stokes, but his duel with Samuels is on hold as Ramdin negotiates an over of in-duckers with some watchful defence. Good pace from Stokes, who touches 90mph. He's charging towards that hotel-type building and, beyond that, some small white houses built into the hills that surround the ground. In the stands, the Barmy Army sing their version of The Lion Sleeps Tonight. I'm fairly certain it has something to do with which beer they will be on later.
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William Lambie in Birmingham: The problem is that grounds want four sell-out days with last-minute ticket sales for day five, and they're all terrified, after the amounts they have to shell out on getting a Test match in the first place, of losing money. So the ICC needs to cover ticket losses in the event of an early finish to encourage surfaces more conducive to a result.
WI 173-5 (Samuels 82, Ramdin 4)
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It will be Moeen Ali, who immediately gets one to turn sharply through Ramdin's gate. Beats everyone and goes for a bye. When Samuels gets down to the business end, a horrible long hop is pulled to the boundary. In all honesty, Moeen isn't having the best of days, while Samuels is eyeing a hundred before the close. This stand is worth 44 from only nine overs.
"I would have left Rashid in England to play county cricket. I would probably have left Broad and Jimmy at home as well. It is going to be a heavy summer with Tests and ODIs against New Zealand and we have to play better against the Australians this summer. If we had had a good World Cup they may well not have come but I think the selectors chose the best team to save a few people's jobs."
WI 164-5 (62 overs)
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Still Stokes v Samuels, the feisty Durham all-rounder v the laconic biffer from Jamaica. A word from Stokes, a word back from Samuels. Stokes will be pleased to see that from Marlon, the fact he's managed to get a word out mean he might not be fully focussed on his batting. Some big reverse hoop, clipped for a couple, Samuels having a word has he jogs past. Ah, Stokes breaks first, hurling the ball back at Samuels and giving away some overthrows. Steve Davis has another word. I reckon a twirl of Moeen Ali might be the way to go against the rampaging Samuels.
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Ian Lawrence: Instead of a penalty shoot-out (see 21:52) why not rule that a team has won if the team batting last do not get within 80-100 (maybe 150) runs of the team bowling's second innings total?
That way, the third innings team need to bat and make a big enough total to negate the 80-100 runs rule and might just get bowled out in the process, thus allowing the fourth innings team to chase a total that might be achievable if only to force the draw?
WI 160-5 (61 overs)
In a 27-run partnership, Ramdin had contributed nothing before sweetly driving Broad straight down the ground for four. Broad responds by finding a hint of reverse swing, arcing the ball back in to the right-hander, who has to skip around to keep it out. Still plenty of clapping and drumming in the crowd, who are beign entertained more now that at any other point in the day.
"Everybody will struggle to score but there will come a moment in the game when a batsman will work really hard and then there will be 20 minutes when they will get runs. He has lost his patience. When he first started to play cricket he did so with such ease, lazy, no trouble timing the ball. He does not think too much. The best thing Ramdin can do is keep him off strike and let him calm down. He could have been out a few times in these last five minutes."
WI 156-5 (Samuels 70, Ramdin 0)
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It's almost as if Marlon Samuels has passed 50 and has decided that every ball now has to go to the boundary. Did you ever play Brian Lara Cricket and try hitting everything for six? A bit like that. He's throwing the bat at the spider-like Ben Stokes, with the result being a slash over point for four, a couple through extra cover and a thick edge between third slip and gully for four. Stokes, not renowned for being able to keep his emotions in check, is boiling like a kettle, with umpire Steve Davis having a word. Samuels living dangerously, but moving the score on. This is the most watchable cricket of the day.
"Except from the one mistake when he should have been caught, he's played splendidly. He's held the innings together after being one of the three to give their wickets away with bad shots in Antigua."
50 for Marlon Samuels
WI 146-5
Marlon Samuels' three-and-a-quarter hour duty has yielded a 22nd Test half-century, completed by punching Stuart Broad down the ground. Next ball, Samuels looks to celebrate by launching the ball off the island, succeeding in hitting only fresh air and almost dislocating his shoulders. Broad, never short of something insightful to say, offers Marlon some batting tips. Samuels then biffs over cover for four. Nice contest.
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Brain Mainwaring: Dominic Cork. Robbie Williams. Slash (Guns n Roses). Stoke on Trent. Let me entertain you.
Neil Reader in Ipswich: Best I can do for my home town of Ipswich is 80's legend Nik Kershaw and Aussie opener Shane Watson (ok he is Ipswich, Queensland).
WI 135-5 (Samuels 49, Ramdin 0)
Grenville, do you mean a shootout exactly like they do in football? So if the match is drawn, they stick some goals on the outfield and take five kicks from the spot? Wicketkeeper goes in goal? I'm not sure it would catch on, but I'd like to know which international cricketers you'd back in a penalty shootout. Chris Jordan, who seems to have been bowling all day, has a good root around Marlon Samuels by employing a full length. When Jordan drops short, Samuels takes four through point.
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Grenville Cross in Pretoria, SA: A friend of mine from Slovakia who knows nothing about cricket could not believe that after five days playing the last Test ended a draw. Something must be done. Why don't they have a shoot out like they do in football?
WI 130-5 (Samuels 44, Ramdin 0)
Broad strains his way towards the diminutive Ramdin, who has two slips, two gullies and a shortish mid-on for company. Some back-of-a-length stuff has captain Ramdin jumping about, but the wicketkeeper remains. It's getting darker and there are no floodlights. Bad lightingtons to stop play at some point?
"If England had bowled to their best in this match then the West Indies would have been seven or eight down now. We have seen England get teams in these positions plenty of times in last couple of years but have allowed them to go on and get 320-350 - with the likes of Haddin and Holder in the last Test getting away."
WI 130-5
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So the Windies are five down and England have also dropped three catches. It hasn't felt like a bowling performance good enough to create eight wicket-taking chances, yet Cook will feel like his side are justifying his decision to bowl first. Marlon Samuels, well on with an emotionless, gum-chewing vigil, plays back a Jordan maiden as the band continues with its wall of sound from the stands.
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WI 130-5 after 55 overs
Not out batsmen: Samuels 44, Ramdin 0
Bowling figures: Anderson 15-8-18-1, Broad 12-4-26-1, Jordan 14-2-35-2, Moeen 8-1-27-0, Stokes 5-2-17-1
England won toss and chose to field
WI 130-5 (Jordan 14-2-35-2)
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Chris Jordan was pleading with Davis as he appealed, giving it a "come on, man" when the umpire shook his head. When the decision was overturned, there were fist pumps from both Jordan and the staff on the England balcony. Jordan was rewarded for keeping a fullish length, the slight nip doing for Blackwood, who planted that front dog. Captain Denesh Ramdin is the new man, watching from the other end as Marlon Samuels gets away with a horrible flat-footed swipe at Stuart Broad. This could yet be a very good day for England.
"It is a really good review when you think that England have lost one already. Some many times with lbw it is umpire's call. Jordan has bowled nicely, of all the bowlers he looked like he was the one who was going to take a wicket and he has. The clouds have just started to back over and maybe that is having a bit of an effect."
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Blackwood lbw Jordan 26 (WI 129-5)
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Gone! The decision is overturned and Jermaine Blackwood is on his way. Chris Jordan just got that to nip a little off the seam, with Blackwood playing all across the line. The replay shows that Steve Davis got it wrong and the ball would have clattered the leg stump. Stuart Broad's drop doesn't prove too costly and England are cockahoop. They are halfway through the Windies batting.
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WI 129-4
It's hit Blackwood on the knee-roll. No inside edge...
Umpire review
WI 129-4
This has got to be very, very close. Chris Jordan to Jermaine Blackwood, batsman playing around the front pad. Looks dead, but Steve Davis says no. I'm reviewing and Alastair Cook is too. High?
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Owen from Whitley Bay: Michael Vaughan - we doctored our pitches exactly the same when the Aussies came last time. Dry, spinning pitches when we knew we had Swanny. The West Indies are simply setting their pitches up to play to their strengths, the same as we did. It's a shame we don't get seaming/swinging pitches like Trent Bridge anymore but we stopped them intentionally! So we need to practice what we preach.
Blackwood dropped on 20
WI 126-4
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Another chance goes down! This time it's Stuart Broad off his own bowling, Jermaine Blackwood chipping the ball back. Head height, to Broad's left, through the hands and for four. That's three England have dropped on a pitch where chances are hard to come by. Already they have to make at least 13 opportunities to take 10 wickets. To add a a little insult, the boundary brings up the 50 partnership.
"I do not know if the groundstaff know how to make the pitches like they used to. Now they are using the sit down motorised roller and a lot of people feel like that is causing the problem."
WI 122-4 (run-rate 2.40)
Stuart Broad, floppy sunhat on his head, goes through some looseners as Jordan creeps in. Is it a bit early to be lamenting how slow the pitch is? Don't judge until both teams have batted, etc. Having said that, it looks to have all the pace of a wardrobe and the run-rate has not threatened 2.50 all day. When we start talking about " a day for the purists" and "an absorbing day", it usually means the cricket has been a bit turgid. One from it, a wide. Says it all.
"I take quite a reckoning from my little lad who is nine, he turns on the television and sees the Big Bash - he sees the lights and colours and music. He does not turn on the television for Test cricket. Of course it's a much larger market you are looking at but you have got to market and sell Test cricket better to the younger audience and playing on a pitch like this will not do it any good. I am sure the groundsman has done his best."
WI 121-4 (Samuels 42, Blackwood 20)
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James Anderson comes round the wicket to Blackwood, shifting Gary Ballance to a short leg that is just behind square. I'd want a suit of armour to stand there, there's a high risk of the ball being whipped at a fleshy part of the body. Anderson targets Blackwood between hip and head height, with the right-hander weaving to get out of the way. I'll be honest, it's not thrilling stuff.
"One of the odd features of this ground is there is a lime green scorecard and in right front of that there is a small one that is changed by hand. The electronic one didn't work for the first couple hours of play."
WI 121-4 (Jordan 12-2-31-1)
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Since that Cook drop of Samuels, it's all been a bit flat for England, the ball not looking like to beat the bat, which is slowly getting on top. Samuels, laid back, but in a slightly dozy, rather than a cool way, tickles Jordan for a couple, then plays out the rest of the over with minimal fuss. I wonder if England are thinking they are a spinner short of an attack.
"A microcosm of the pitch is the way Blackwood played one of the balls in that over. He played it from the crease more backward then forward and it seemed like he had half an hour it play it. These types of pitches are not good for international cricket."
WI 119-4 (partnership 45)
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Jermaine Blackwood, crouching and squinting, now has a helmeted silly point for company as Anderson arcs some in-swingers towards the timbers. When Anderson drops short, Blackwood leans back to upper-cut over the slips for four. Phil Simmons, the West Indies coach, doesn't even crack a smile. He perhaps still remembers the awful shot that Blackwood played in the second innings at Antigua. It's pretty gloomy out there, I'd bet a penny to a tenner that we won't make it through to the close without seeing a light meter.
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Cricketers and pop stars
Stuart Onslow: Jos Buttler was born in Taunton. So were the Wurzels! Altogether now! 'We've got a brand new wicket keeper..'
Min Patel and Mick Jagger both attended Dartford Grammar School in Kent - Robert in Houston, Texas (also a DGS old boy)
WI 115-4 (48 overs)
The hard-done-by Jordan continues to shuffle in to Samuels, who is wearing a black baselayer underneath his white playing shirt. Looks a bit village - does he not have a white one? The building that Jordan is running towards looks a bit like a hotel, albeit one that isn't yet fully built and where you'd be lucky to not find a creepy-crawly in your bed. Ooofff, that's horrible from Jordan, Samuels cutting a long hop for four.
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Ben Thapa: How long does one man (namely Cook) go without seemingly doing anything useful individually, before things become untenable?
David: Hope the next thing Alastair Cook drops is himself.
Mike Brookes: You can't drop them as an international cricketer!
WI 109-4 (Samuels 34, Blackwood 16)
If England have been winded by that drop, then Joe Root is doing his best to chirp some oxygen back into their lungs. James Anderson responds with a bumper that has Blackwood jack-knifing backwards, with Root asking for "half an hour that, boys". Anderson continues to bend his back as the steel band (or what I think is a steel band) continues to tap out the soundtrack of the day. I wonder when England's next chance will come.
"Ian Bell at second slip flinched a bit which made Alastair Cook think he was going for it and put him off. It was a very full ball and the slips are standing very close because of the slow pitch - Cook just took his eye off the ball slightly. It should have been taken."
Samuels dropped on 32
WI 108-4
Oh, skipper. What's the old cliche? "There's no such thing as an easy slip catch." Well, this is one of the easier ones and it's gone down, giving Marlon Samuels a life. Widish from Chris Jordan, Samuels throwing the kitchen sink and getting only a thick edge, the ball travelling to the right of Cook at first slip, about hip height. The captain gets two hands to it, but never comes close to catching the it, the ball dropping to the turf and allowing the Windies to take a single. An under-pressure skipper has to take those.
WI 107-4 (Samuels 32, Blackwood 16)
Indeed it is Anderson, still swinging the ball, albeit with the radar slightly skewed towards the leg side. On the England balcony, Paul Farbrace is slumped in his chair like a man auditioning for a part in the Royle Family, while Ottis Gibson sips from the tiniest tea cup you have ever seen. Either that, or it just looks small in his giant hands. Uneventful over.
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Cricketers and pop stars
Tony: David Gower, born in Royal Tunbridge Well, where both Shane MacGowan & Sid Vicious both resided for a while. All three born in 1957.
Juxtaposed: Nasser Hussain was born in Madras like grammy award winner AR Rahman of Jai Ho fame from the film Slumdog Millionaire.
Tim Keogh: Andrew Strauss, Alex Hales both played as youngsters at Gerrards Cross Cricket Club - as did Joe Keogh, singer of Amber Run.
Close!
WI 106-4
Ooohhh, a pretty rank ball from Chris Jordan almost gets him a second wicket. A wide full toss, moving away from Blackwood, who throws his hands through it. The ball flashes between those two gullies, past the dive of Ben Stokes and away for four. James Anderson goes through some arm-loosening exercises at mid-on, the man with more wickets than any other England bowler looks set to pick up the attack from t'other end.
"England have had a number of teams that have gone into a match with 10 players having scored fifties, but never all 11. However, at Lord's v India last year, Plunkett got a fifty making all 11 in that team having a Test 50. The England team at Lord's and Nottingham last year had 9 players with Test 100s in them."
WI 102-4
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The players are back after their brew break - Chris Jordan will be bowling to Jermaine Blackwood with two slips and two gullies sniffing an edge.
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Nick currently in Copenhagen: Freddie Flintoff is in esteemed company from Preston - Jessica Taylor from Liberty X, Ken Nicol from Steeleye Span and the seminal British thrash metal band Xentrix.
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When a man isn't on the live text, he's sent to the shop to get the biscuits in. I've done my bit - chocolate and digestives. Snacks will be important in this marathon final session of the day. We could be playing until 23:30 if the light holds.
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Right, it's time for me to bid you adieu and leave you in the capable hands of Stephan Shemilt...
Jimmy's dad talks to TMS
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Michael Anderson on TMS: "I can't claim much credit. When your son's playing for England you don't step in - you just leave the coaches to it. Jimmy used to come down and watch me playing on weekends. Every evening when I came home from work we would play out in the garden, and he wouldn't let me give my wicket away - he would always made sure he got me out. I think when he was 16 or 17, he shot up to six foot and started bowling fairly quickly - then I realised that he might have something."
Jimmy's dad talks to TMS
Michael Anderson on TMS: "I'm very proud. It was a long wait - it was such a flat wicket in Antigua. For the whole family to be together when he did it was fantastic. It was such a good delivery to get the [record 384th] wicket, and quite appropriate that Cooky took the catch - their careers have followed a similar path."
Finn hopeful of improvement
Following remedial work Finn is starting to believe he has a lasting solution - thanks largely to watching video footage of him at his best.
"I came back to England and had to realign everything, but it's not easy once you've grooved bad habits," he said.
"It's taken a long time, but this running thing could be the last piece in the puzzle.
"You can see when I was running up as a carefree 21-year-old, I just legged it to the crease - it was natural. As I've had to think about other things, there's been tension that has come into my run-up."
Finn opens up on bowling problems
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Steven Finn has given a remarkably candid interview today that is just reaching us. In it he identifies the decision to shorten his run-up a couple of years ago as the source of his bowling problems - but blames nobody but himself.
"The short run got canned quite quickly after it came in," he said. "I think that's what cocked me up really - looking back at it, coming off a short run made everything tense and made me force bowling quick.
"It worked for a brief time in New Zealand. I didn't quite have the feeling of bowling well, but I was getting the results - so it was masked over.
"The short-term fix wasn't a fix to the long-term problem. It's taken a bit of unravelling, but it's no-one's fault other than mine."
"You felt that England looked a little stronger and well equipped for this surface. The West Indies batting and bowling is patchy. In all honesty it should be 102-2 not 102-4. Then they would have thought, having been put into bat on this pitch, they were doing ok. On this surface patience is key and this West Indies side are not known for that. They can play nicely for 25 minutes but then have a wild swipe. They do not have the resistance or adaptability to play this type of game. They play well and then do something rubbish."
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So England with the upper hand after two sessions of the first day, although the West Indies have battled hard and shown admirable resilience at times.
It was a session of two halves. For the first hour England looked toothless, but the wickets of Darren Bravo and Shivnarine Chanderpaul in quick succession have given the scorecard a much more pleasing look for the visitors.
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Stay tuned to TMS at tea time. they have a special guest - none other than James Anderson's dad - Michael Anderson. A proud man, no doubt.
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WI 102-4
Moeen to deliver the last over before tea. Blackwood brings up the West Indies' 100 with a single to deep square, and he, alongside Marlon Samuels, makes it safely through to tea. England will be relatively happy with that session, though.
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Cricketers and pop stars
Will in Altrincham: Jimmy Anderson and Jonny Marr both live near Altrincham.
Ian Mills: Cliff Richard and Suresh Raina are both from Lucknow!
James Marshall: The small town of Bellshill in Scotland is where Mike Denness came from. Along with pop star Sheena Easton, Sir Matt Busby and Ally McCoist.
Giles in Leicestershire: Stuart Broad attended Oakham School. So did Jay Kay of Jamiroquai.
WI 98-4 (Samuels 29, Blackwood 11)
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Stokes, his meaty biceps girded with ink, continues. He has his arms aloft in appeal-cum-celebration when he produces an absolute pearler that cuts Blackwood in half like a magician's assistant. But there's no edge there, much to his chagrin. And then he gets Blackwood driving recklessly outside off. Bit of afters between the two as well, clearly no love lost out there.
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Ollie in Sheffield: Joe Root's hometown of Sheffield has a rich musical history. Arctic Monkeys and The Human League to name two.
"It was a big confident appeal as Samuels stretched a long way forward. Umpires give the batsmen the benefit when they come forward. There was always going to be a good chance it was going to Umpires Call. It was worth a review. There is a body of belief that if it does come back Umpires Call then the team should lose their review."
Not out
The ball-tracking system shows the ball clipping the top of leg stump, but not by enough to overturn the on-field decision.
Umpire review
Moeen Ali hits Marlon Samuels on the pad - the umpire says not out, but England want a second opinion...
WI 92-4 (Stokes 4-2-12-1)
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Ben Stokes has been playing on Marlon Samuels's patience - offering him nothing, keeping him tied down and after ten scoreless deliveries off the Durham man, Samuels snaps, and chases a big booming drive that he slightly miscues, but hits well enough to force behind point for four. England would dearly love another wicket before the interval...
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Christopher Gabbett: Legendary Australian frontman of Cold Chisel, Jimmy Barnes, lives in Bowral, NSW. So did some bloke called Bradman.
Nigel John Mundy: How about Bristol's WG Grace and The Brilliant Corners.
Robin Fry: You couldn't tell from his accent, but Jonathan Agnew is from Macclesfield - just like Ian Curtis
WI 87-4
That's better from Moeen - a much, more accurate probing over that forces Blackwood to play out a maiden.
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Stephen Downer: Derek Underwood was born in Bromley, Kent, where David Bowie studied art, music and design at Bromley Technical High School (source: Wikipedia).
James Eady: Aren't Steve Finn and Elton John both from Watford?
WI 87-4 (Samuels 22, Blackwood 7)
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Marlon Samuels has really curbed his usual enthusiasm for big shots today - just two fours from 74 balls so far for the Jamaican. He plays out a second consecutive maiden from Stokes.
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Tattz in Nottingham: Backing Moeen to take a fair few wickets in the second innings. He will need this first innings just to remember how to play test cricket again. Good to see genuine turn from an English spinner though!
WI 87-4
Moeen Ali is reintroduced - will that catch have imbued him with confidence? It doesn't look like it - his first ball of his new spell is short and wide and cut for four by Samuels, and then Blackwood milks him for two. Penny for James Tredwell's thoughts, not to mention those of Adil Rashid?
WI 80-4 (Stokes 2-1-7-1)
Jermaine Blackwood showed in the first Test that he can operate in fits and starts - and sure enough, after driving his first two balls down the ground, he plays out a shotless maiden from Stokes.
"Unless the light improves it looks like we might have a curtailed day - there are no floodlights here in Grenada."
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Cricketers and pop stars
Silas Gregory: Did we decide that Bell is a Coventry lad? If so, that's The Specials' home town.
Alan Compton: Liam Plunkett shares his Nunthorpe hometown with Amelia Lily of 2011 X-Factor fame.
Ian D: How about the 'Royal Borough' of Croydon, birthplace of both Kirsty McColl (who saw Elvis at her local chip shop don't forget) and the whole Surrey and England Butcher dynasty!
WI 80-4
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England have really toiled at times in this session, but they've been rewarded for plugging away - and what a blow the dismissal of Chanderpaul is for West Indies. The Guyanese veteran just didn't get his weight into the shot, he was playing too far away from his body. Broad continues to test Marlon Samuels with a fullish length, and Marlon Samuels continues to search for his timing - squirting one to square leg and then under-edging to cover.
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Oliver Metcalfe: I turn on TMS, and the very next ball, Chanderpaul goes. You're welcome, British public.
Anthony Berry: Got in the bath, England took a wicket. Dropped the remote which changed the channel, England get a wicket.
WI 80-4 (Samuels 17, Blackwood 5)
Jermaine Blackwood is the new batsman. He had a game of two halves in the first Test - making an impressive maiden century in the first innings, then losing his wicket to what Jonathan Agnew called "one of the worst shots I've ever seen" in the second. But he's away nicely here - punching a single down the ground, and then driving sweetly to the mid-on boundary.
"What an awful shot from a nondescript ball. He reached for it and just spooned it up to Moeen. What a gift. It was a horrible shot. There have been some gifts today and especially from a player of Chanderpaul's experience."
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Ben Stokes is brought into the attack, and he strikes with his second ball! It's the prized wicket of Chanderpaul, but what a tame dismissal for such a famously dogged batsman - driving loosely and spooning one to Moeen Ali at gully. That's Stokes's first wicket of the series.
"That ball was hit hard and it still only went for three, so you can see what effect the rain overnight and today has had on the pitch."
WI 73-3
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Big appeal from Stuart Broad when he raps Samuels on the pads, but no dice from the umpire - sliding down leg that one. Samuels has barely played a shot in anger today but he does get the final ball of the over through the infield - only for Chris Jordan, probably England's paciest outfielder, to haul it in just before the rope.
"You wondered how long it would take England to realise that two spin options on this pitch was needed. It has only taken 20 overs really. Broad is bowling a decent spell. It is going to be one of the weeks where the cricket is going to called attritional. I would rather they turned to Joe Root next. He got Chanderpaul's wicket in the last match."
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Neil in Hexham: Yeovil, which can lay a part claim on Sir Ian Botham, was also home town to late 80's Indie band The Chesterfields.
Neil in Chester: Brian Close, Yorkshire and England captain, came from Leeds as did my favourite band of the 70's (somewhat tongue in cheek)... the infamous Grumbleweeds!
WI 70-3 (Samuels 12, Chanderpaul 1)
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Moeen Ali hasn't quite got it right so far - he's just struggling to test the batsmen with a consistent line and length. There is good purchase off the wicket though - he gets one to spit off the track and beat Chanderpaul's tentative forward poke.
"They were playing the patience games and then Bravo just lost his patience. It was a good catch from Cook - any slip catch on this ground is going to be a good one because of how close they are standing."
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Jack Mendel: That sums up Darren Bravo in a nutshell. Beautiful cover driver.. comparable with Lara. Then dreadful waft outside off...
WI 67-3
Shiv Chanderpaul won't be overtaking Brian Lara in any hurry of course - more like a venerable old motor crawling past you when you're stuck in traffic than a boy racer screaming past you in the fast lane. He blocks out Stuart Broad's latest over.
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Colin Stephenson: There is a couple from my home town, Warrington. John Crawley and Neil Fairbrother and Rick Astley and Jay from Five.
If 'Cricketers and Pop stars' isn't a reality TV show in the making, I don't know what is...
WI 67-3 (Moeen 3-0-12-0)
Mo' from Mo. Chanderpaul, who fell to spin in both innings in Antigua, gets going with a nudge past backward point.
"It was just angled across, it was a very non-descript ball and an even more non-descript shot. He faced an hour and half of Jimmy Anderson, with the ball swinging every where and left it alone and this was a non-descript ball from Stuart Broad and he's just stuck the bat out. There was one of the most pointless dives after taking the catch from Alastair Cook."
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WI 65-3
The redoubtable Shiv Chanderpaul is the new batsman.
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Darren Bravo was closing in on his first half-century against England, his bogey side. He won't get there though. Stuart Broad sends down a tempter outside off stump and Bravo, perhaps emboldened by having just driven the bowler for four, has a fiddle at it. Captain Cook pouches the catch at first slip.
WI 60-2 (Bravo 31, Samuels 7)
Moeen Ali, whose first over before lunch was a rather inauspicious return to Test-match tweakery, is thrown the cherry. He gets some appreciable turn off the pitch - that is what he will offer over someone like James Tredwell, at the expense perhaps of a little guile and experience. Bravo and Samuels continue to push the score at a slow-and-steady pace.
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Tom in Leicester: I think England are right to be stubborn by picking Jordan, he is an exciting talent Flintoff struggled early on in his England career before changing his action.
James in Sevenoaks: Good to see a sizeable crowd out there today after all the talk of the demise of test cricket outside of England and Australia.
WI 58-2
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Ben Stokes is OK to play on. Hard as concrete-coated nails, that boy. Is he OK to bowl though - he could be needed before long. The first ball after drinks sees Darren Bravo smear Stuart Broad back down the ground, but he doesn't quite time it and it's reeled in before the rope.
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Liam: You so called journalists often refer to Jimmy Anderson as Burnley's finest (18:34). However, you seem to forget that two members of 90s pop sensation Chumbawumba are also from the town.
Can anyone think of any other cricketers who share their hometowns with famous pop-stars?
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Drinks have been called while Ben Stokes receives treatment. It doesn't luck too bad, luckily. It seems to be his hip that's troubling him, actually.
"Stokes went for a slide in the pitch but there was no slide in the turf. This is Ben Stokes - the hardest man in the side by a country mile. People might remember Simon Jones doing the same thing in Australia and it ended his career. It was good to see the batsman not running the second run - it is good sportsmanship."
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Ben Stokes has fallen awkwardly and it looks like he may have injured his knee. The physio is on. Let's hope it's not too serious...
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Ben Pathe: Has Marlon Samuels been getting coaching off Geoffrey Boycott? He's gone from hare to tortoise.
Mike Ball: Alan in London is right, Broad's bowling record over the last 18 months is good, not sure what all the hate is about?
WI 54-2 (Jordan 8-2-18-1)
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Adil Rashid, clad in his neon yellow substitute's bib, makes himself useful by ensuring that the coolbox is properly stocked ahead of the drinks break. Got to keep busy, haven't you? Chris Jordan, the man whose head would probably have been on the block if Rashid had played, continues to toil away fruitlessly - a no-ball and a single from his latest set.
"I think on slow and low pitches you have to aim at the stumps and hope the batsman make a mistake or one keeps low. I played against Shannon Gabriel in England. He is a big brute of a man, he is huge. I am pretty sure one of his wickets at Lord's was me. I seem to remember he bowled me - I got out at the Pavilion end.
WI 52-2
Stuart Broad didn't bowl well this morning despite leaking relatively few runs - he ended up with more misleading figures than those cannily shot '10-week transformation' photos you see on gym billboards. Can he find a more challenging length this afternoon? Bravo continues his steady accumulation with two through backward point.
Finally Chris Jordan manages to coax the somnolent Marlon Samuels out of his shell with a fuller delivery outside off that just shapes away - he draws a false shot from the batsman, but the edge trickles away through gully for four runs.
"I think we have to change the bowling. Try something different, we should give Stokes a bowl. For the batsman the key is whether they can be patient and hold their nerve."
WI 45-2
Darren Bravo's defence looks teak-tough as James Anderson gets the ball to swing back with a slightly fuller length - no way through yet for England. "Hang in there, lads!" chirps Joe Root. I can only echo his sentiments as we negotiate one of the less enthralling periods of this Test match.
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Tim: I've just had a Eurika moment.....how about bowling at the off stump....with the intention of actually hitting the stumps or at least drawing the batsmen forward. Might just work you know.
WI 44-2 (Bravo 22, Samuels 1)
Four men wait in the slips, their minds perhaps beginning to wander as Jordan struggles to beat the bat. Bravo plays out five dots and then milks a single into the off side.
"England, if they are honest, will think they should have done far better in these conditions. After you get a delivery like Anderson's to Brathwaite the batsman will would have been thinking to themselves I won't be able to get a run out there but they have not made them play nearly enough. That brilliant early ball would have sent a shockwave through the West Indies dressing room. Not much to follow it up though. England are preying on the West Indies' patience."
WI 43-2 (Anderson 10-6-12-1)
Anderson is managing to extract a little more movement than Jordan, but he's going to have to target the stumps if he wants to draw Marlon Samuels out of hibernation mode. The Jamaican frustrates England with another shotless maiden.
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Alan in London: Over the last 18 months, Anderson and Broad have been England's best Test bowlers with almost identical records. Broad was also England's best bowler by far on the last Ashes tour. Ridiculous anyone's calling for him to be dropped.
Anthony Cocozza: Are Finn and Tremlett no longer considered good enough? Why? They are both better than Jordan and Broad.
WI 43-2
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This is rather pedestrian fare so far from England's bowlers in conditions that should be offering them plenty of assistance. Chris Jordan runs in with plenty of huff and puff and hits the pitch hard, but he hasn't yet got the batsmen playing and missing as you might expect in such humidity. Samuels is off the mark with a dab into the leg side.
WI 41-2 (Bravo 20, Samuels 0)
Momentary confusion as Marlon Samuels holds one single bail aloft to signal to the umpire which guard he wants. The umpire doesn't get it. Samuels is in no hurry after lunch - he takes his tally of scoreless deliveries to 16 with four more dots.
"You want to create a certain amount of pressure and doubt, so you need to be getting at least four balls an over where the batsman is thinking I do not like this. When it is just one ball an over it's nice for the batsman. We could bowl better with the medium-fast bowlers we have. We could be creating more pressure. If you keep giving them problems, you give yourself more chance of getting them out."
WI 40-2 (Jordan 4-1-8-1)
Did the West Indies batsmen have a big lunch? An extra slice of spotted dick? They've started very sluggishly after the interval, with no runs off the bat in the first three overs. Luckily for them, Chris Jordan abets their efforts to get the scoreboard moving by slinging four byes down the leg side. Ugly.
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Ray in Swansea: When batsmen nick it, don't walk and say they didn't "feel it" everyone laughs. Smith's "wicket" and non-review just goes to show, they may actually be telling the truth!
WI 36-2
James Anderson got it swinging this morning like Peter Snow's Election Night Swingometer, if you'll permit me a topical metaphor. There's a bit of movement on offer for Burnley's finest after lunch too, and Darren Bravo plays safe - another maiden.
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WI 36-2 (Bravo 19, Samuels 0)
Chris Jordan had mixed fortunes before lunch - he missed out on a wicket when Gary Ballance dropped one at leg slip, then got his karmic payback a couple of balls later when Smith was erroneously given out caught behind.
No such drama in his first over after lunch though, as Samuels blocks out a maiden.
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Right, we're ready to go again. Jordan to Samuels...
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Come to think of it, it's been a memorable day for sporting forgetfulness. Earlier today, Ding Junhui missed out on a Crucible 147 after forgetting he was on a maximum. Then we saw Devon Smith appear to forget the availability of DRS when he was given out.
Somebody should remind David Luiz he's got a Champions League match against Barcelona this evening...
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That Devon Smith business was rather curious, wasn't it? In case you're just joining us, the West Indian opener was given out just caught behind before lunch - but he didn't hit it! So why didn't he review it? Did he forget about DRS? Did he decide that, with a Test average of 25, he just wasn't worth it? Or perhaps he has plans for Saturday and fancies a four-day finish. We may never know...
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Robert Pheby: If new technology aims to prevent howlers, when a batsman does not edge the ball, the umpires should recall him after replay.
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Thank you Stephan. For a moment there when the drizzle was coming down, it looked like Stephan wouldn't be able to bring you any actual cricket in his morning stint and I'd be awkwardly converted from first-drop to live-text opener, a la Jonathan Trott.
But here I am in my usual slot, and with an intriguing afternoon session in prospect. Can England build on those morning inroads, or will Marlon Samuels - possessor of a mighty fine record against England - lead a Windies fightback? We shall see...
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Right, with the players enjoying a brew and a biscuit, it's time for me to step aside for a little while. Here's James Gheerbrant.
On Test Match Special at the moment, there's another chance to listen to the excellent BBC Radio 5 live documentary James Anderson: The Wicket Man. If you've not heard it, do tune in. Mark Chapman interviewed Jimmy after every series over the past two years as he neared the England Test wickets record, which he broke in the last match.
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Alan Compton: One wicket that should never have been given doesn't change anything. Jordan is a club bowler. No control.
"It was a decent start for England, I do not think they have bowled great. You look at the pitch and it is doing a bit but not that much. Anderson, Broad, Jordan have swung it but not enough. If the West Indies bat well they could get 350-400. The West Indies are playing OK but England will have to bowl better. I do not think it is going to be easy to get 10 wickets on this wicket and you might need to bowl for dots and hope for a rash shot. You know their players, apart from Chanderpaul, are not occupy the crease types of players - they will play their shots."
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WI 36-2 after 14 overs
Not out batsmen: Bravo 19, Samuels 0
Bowling figures: Anderson 7-4-11-1, Broad 5-2-8-0, Jordan 2-0-8-1, Moeen 1-0-8-0
England won toss and chose to field
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When the players finally got out there, England just about managed to take advantage of the helpful conditions that were on offer. James Anderson has swung the ball around corners, producing an unplayable in-swinger to bowl Kraigg Brwathwaite, but some inconsistency and watchful Windies batting looked set to have the hosts at lunch only one down. However, a Devon Smith non-edge off Chris Jordan was given out and not reviewed, leaving West Indies 36-2 at the break.
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Just joining us? Wondering why lunch is being taken late and after only 15 overs? We were delayed by rain for the best part of two hours, with play not beginning until 16:45 BST.
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Rob: It seems that cheering when a wicket is taken is only acceptable if everyone knows that you're listening to the cricket through your headphones. Otherwise, judging by the looks I've just been given, it's totally unacceptable during your 8 year old son's judo lesson. Oops.
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James Cowe: Good comeback by Chris Jordan there after that dropped catch. That wicket wicket gives England the session.
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WI 36-2
Now we know why Devon Smith stood for a moment - he didn't hit it. More replays show that there was daylight between bat and ball. Why didn't he review it? Was he not sure? Did he forget that DRS was in play? Either way, look in the scorebook and it says he's out. With that, England have had the better of the hour-long morning session.
WI 36-2 (Jordan 2-0-8-1)
Smith stood for a little while, perhaps not believing what he had done. It was a very thin edge, the bat jamming down on the ground, while Buttler almost dropped the ball as he went to throw it up in celebration. Marlon Samuels the new man, with Moeen Ali sending down the final over before lunch.
"It was really good planning from England. Having put that leg slip in the batsman would have been thinking things were safe but the ball just tails away from him. Good planning and execution. England would just have been worrying there, 28-1 is not a massive score but the pitch is not doing massive amounts."
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Gone. Devon Smith falls to Chris Jordan, two balls after being dropped at leg slip by Gary Ballance. Jordan's danger was swinging the ball back in to the left-hander, but Smith, who left the ball well, followed a wide one and got a thin edge through to wicketkeeper Jos Buttler. That's a big boost for England, who were in danger of not taking full advantage of the early help.
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Mark: Broad can produce a magic spell unfortunately they are all too few and far between.
David Hall: Stuart Broad once again bowls a wicketless opening spell and is withdrawn from the attack, when will he be dropped?
Jay: Broad gives Jordan some advice and Jordan sends one down the leg side. Sums up the state of affairs with English cricket.
WI 25-1 (13 overs)
Already we're closing in on lunch, with James Anderson looking likely to bowl right through this mini-session. Back over the wicket now, still swinging the ball across this pair of left-handers, who are looking increasingly comfortable. After Anderson rearranged Brathwaite's furniture, I bet the Windies would have bitten your arm off for being only one down at lunch.
"The selection of Moeen Ali for James Tredwell was predictable. If Jos Buttler does come in at eight. then I am trying to think of a better batsman to come in at eight. Geoffrey might come up with a few."
WI 22-1 (Smith 12, Bravo 8)
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Chris Jordan's staccato run-up is seen for the first time in the match, with the Sussex man shuffling his gold chain and sweat band in and producing in-swingers to this pair of left-handers. Radar not quite there yet, bit too leggy, but the full length is decent and the pace is high the high-80s. An in-ducker pins Smith, but an inside edge sees both the appeal rejected and any question of a review swiftly discarded. Smith finished the over by driving down the ground for four. Jordan getting it thereabouts, but not quite there.
"We talk about West Indies cricket and that they play eccentric shots but they have been really well disciplined this morning in a situation that really suits the England bowlers."
WI 16-1 (Anderson 6-4-8-1)
A tempter from Anderson, wide and full to Bravo, swinging away in the direction of the four hippos in the slip cordon. Bravo lines it up, then decides that discretion is the better part of valour. More sunshine, the clouds are now fluffy and white, rather than grey. Chris Jordan wheels his arms like a man trying to take off as Anderson uses the crease, still round the wicket. A third successive maiden, with a change coming up.
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Tom Colocci: Some great armchair bowling coming up here: I reckon Broad is going for the glory ball too often and the batsmen are wise to it. He needs to set them up with more outswingers and use the inswinger as a surprise ball.
WI 16-1 (Smith 7, Bravo 8)
The sun is playing a game of hide and seek with itself. One Broad delivery is sent down in bright sunshine, the next in the sort of gloom you'd find in Blackpool in July. The stands are very sparsely populated, with those who are in attendance not exactly on the edge of their seats. One lady lets out a very long yawn. Still not great from Broad, sprayed on both sides of the wicket. Time for a change.
Broad, Stokes and Jordan - none of them really swing the ball. Anderson is the only out-and-out swing bowler, that is why in these conditions I would like to have two spinners.
WI 16-1
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We have something of a game of two ends at the moment. Anderson provides an omni-threat, while Broad isn't taking advantage of the early help. My word, that's some leave from Bravo, who withdraws his bat from another Anderson hooper and sees it miss off stump by a coat of varnish. Another Jimmy maiden, his third from five overs.
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Ross in Berkshire: With all the Negativity of England selection leading towards a safety with Butler at 8. If a Trott failure occurs in this test it could lean towards this XI for the 3rd Test! Mooen, Cook, Ballance, Bell, Root, Stokes, Butler, Rashid, Broad, Plunkett, Anderson. Giving us 4 seamers, 2-3 spinners and side that can bat down to at least 8!
WI 16-1 (Broad 4-1-8-0)
Too short from Stuart Broad, with Devon Smith swivelling on a pull shot that goes square for four. Inconsistent from Broad, who asks for short leg to be posted back to square leg. The batsman will be pleased to see that. Broad to get an early hook from the attack? England continue to chirp to the background noise of the off horn, while the sun does its best to burn off the clouds. Broad's length improves as the over progresses.
"They were standing close, they are now standing even closer. They are breathing down the batsman necks, they are standing that close. They will have to take some sharp catches."
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WI 12-1
Every ball is an event for James Anderson at the moment, every sprint and hurl of the red cherry producing hooping deliveries of danger. Darren Bravo almost comes a cropper with an outside edge that falls just short of the diving Ben Stokes at fourth slip. Before that, with Anderson round the wicket, Bravo played a lovely cover drive for four. Plenty happening.
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WI 8-1 (Smith 3, Bravo 4)
Broad, a hint of movement away from the lefties, strains for a fuller length and is pushed down the ground for a couple by Smith. The breeze is strong enough to ruffle the shirt of the batsman, who is looking to leave the ball as much as possible. Good plan, with Broad now a little too wide. Not much atmosphere in Grenada, with the odd toot of a horn providing some noise. An England fielder, possibly Joe Root, tells them to aim for "15-3".
On Twitter: That ball was as good as it gets... 4 slips put in place .. Braithwaite expecting the Outs...
WI 6-1
Anderson, now in sunshine and with four slips waiting behind the tall figure of Darren Bravo. Away-swing from the leftie - play and miss, edge short of the slips, play and miss. "Send him the piano, see if he can play that." Short leg has been dispensed with, England clearly feeling that the the edge, rather than the bat-pad, is the more likely mode of dismissal. They're probably right, Anderson is getting this ball to sing like Pavarotti.
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Russell Tunstall: What a delivery from Jimmy Anderson great start England.
Matthew Warne: Jimmy Anderson that's a Bobby Dazzler!
Dukkhaboy: If you had 7 deliveries to sum up Jimmy Anderson the first 7 today might just do it.
WI 6-1
England are chirping as Stuart Broad whips the ball past Smith's outside edge. That fog remains, not only hovering over the ground, but also the dressing room of the Windies, who must feel that this session before lunch could be very difficult indeed.
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WI 6-1 (Anderson 2-1-4-1)
My word, the replays of that James Anderson delivery make it look even better, nigh-on unplayable. It started on a line of off stump or just outside, then hopped in, almost at 90 degrees to clatter into the leg peg. Not only does it move big, bit moves so, so late. Mind you, Brathwaite played it like a man with lead in his helmet, falling over to be cleaned up. Darren Bravo is the new man, with Anderson now swinging the ball across this pair of left-handers.
"What a great ball, he has absolutely cleaned him up. What a ball after an over of gently bowling - that was brilliant. This is what I admire Anderson for most. Swing bowlers with the new ball can only swing it one way. He can swing it both ways and it is a serious skill. It is extraordinary really."
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Bowled him! What a beauty from James Anderson, who does for Kraigg Brathwaite, neck and crop. After a previous over of away-swingers, Anderson produces a booming in-swinger that gets between bat and pad, destroying the timbers. Anderson doesn't need much encouragement, but in these conditions he could swing a satsuma round corners. Windies beware.
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Alfie Hinchliffe: Do other countries have this level of uncertainty about what their 1st XI Test side is?
WI 2-0
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Stuart Broad to the left-handed Devon Smith, who is the first Grenadian to play a Test match in his home country. He's away with a single, with Gary Ballance then taking a very unusual position at short leg to Brathwaite, just around the corner, looking directly at the batsman's erm, backside. Swing for Broad too, who is picked off when he gets too straight for Brathwaite to get off the mark. An ethereal haze hangs over the ground, all a bit Wuthering Heights.
"There is a rendition of Jerusalem being sung, so the Barmy Army must be out here in force. This is one of those grounds where the fielders are going to have to get incredibly close to the stumps to get chances at slip."
WI 0-0
Early movement for Anderson, the ball shaping away from the right-handed Brathwaite, who gropes at a rozzer that fizzes past the outside edge of the bat. Very big hoop, actually, but no great pace. Edge... just short of Ian Bell at second slip. Anderson will be licking his lips as he starts with a maiden, there's plenty in the air for him. No zip, mind, so getting it to carry to the grabbers might be an issue.
"For the young lads who have never been before it is brilliant for them to be around the team but for Bairstow and Rashid it is pointless. These days you can fly players out easily - they should be allowed to go home and play for Yorkshire in the Championship rather than sat here. Jimmy Anderson flew home from Perth for the birth of his child and flew back two days later. It is not like the old days where you have to take a boat."
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Right then, believe it or not, we have cricketers out in the middle. James Anderson has the ball in hand and will be bowling to Kraigg Brathwaite. Three slips, a gully, a shirt leg and even some sunshine. The trumpeter plays Jerusalem as Anderson tears in...
"If I was Mark Wood I would rather be here and be a part of the England set-up, being given the chance to show what I can do in the nets rather than not being here."
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Forget about how long we'll play, I've had it confirmed that there are 79 overs to be bowled today, so we've lost 11. There will be an hour-long session before lunch.
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No word on the playing hours, but I suspect we'll be able to play until at least 23:00 BST, perhaps even half an hour longer than that. We could be going long in to the night, so settle in.
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Daniel Reeves: I still wonder if Cook's the right captain if the number 11's biggest score in the last two years is better than the opener.
Tom Holmes: Get Root opening, push Moeen to 5, Stokes to 6 and Buttler to 7 and play a second spinner (Tredders or Rashid). Problem solved.
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The cover on the pitch has been completely removed, and there are two members of the groundstaff apologetically dragging a rope around the outfield. I'm hearing that we will start at 16:45 BST. Wonders never cease.
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David Grant: England couldn't take 20 wickets in Antigua so they've dropped a front-line spinner and replaced him with a part-timer.
David Moore: Is Stokes a shoe in? A major assumption in my opinion. Moeen is the established all-rounder.
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Update. Sheet has come off the pitch. We're dangerously close to having conditions suitable for Test cricket.
"The groundstaff do not really know what to do. The umpires are not out there, people are starting to shout to get on with it and the covers seems to coming off again."
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The huge blue sheet that covered the square has been removed, only a smaller bit of plastic sitting on the pitch remains. We're only half an hour or so away from what was the scheduled lunch break. Surely we won't be having that?
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Vaughan: If Lyth and Rashid didn't get a look in today, when will they? What was the point in taking them? They and their county teams must be raging, what a waste!
"This is where the ICC needs to get someone out there and asking what is going on. The public have no idea what is going on out there. I have been doing this for 15 years and the game is getting dafter and the audiences are becoming lesser because of it."
"The umpires are now coming on to the field belatedly. I reckon they should get going soon. Just get that cover off and let's go. They are not moving the small cover, the umpires are walking off."
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The umpires are coming out to have a look, but Geoffrey Boycott is predicting an early lunch, rather than an imminent start. It is not raining, so I'm not sure why we are mired in inactivity. The calypso music continues to play, but that's the only action we have.
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Tim Hames: Any England Test team before with high aggregate top test scores 294, 226, 156, 235, 200, 120, 85, 35, 169, 108, 81?
"10 minutes ago we were talking about crowds around the world disappearing and look at this. People have taken the day off work, England fans have taken time off work and come out here and there is nothing going on."
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Matt Warwick: Buttler/Ali/Stokes are all fine. I can understand giving Trott a go. But how is Jordan the third best seamer in the country? I just don't get it.
"There is no rain and no players. What an earth is going on down there? People are sat out. Wimbledon would have had the covers off now and the players playing."
Ben Thapa: I would bat Buttler 8: he's the kind of striker who can attack from anywhere. Demoting Stokes to 8 last summer was a disaster.
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I'm enjoying this debate on he make-up of the England team (admittedly, it's a debate we have at the start of every Test match, but there seems to be more variables here). Is the selection of Stokes and Moeen really causing consternation? Surely the identity of the openers and the third seamer are more under question?
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Steve: I wish a reporter would ask Moores and Cook exactly under what conditions would they play Lyth or Rashid?
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Rob, you've thrown a curveball there. So is the issue that Stokes and Moeen do not form England's best attack? Moeen is the number one spinner, no? If you wanted a batting all-rounder who acts as the fifth bowler, is Stokes not the man?
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Rob Meech: Buttler should bat seven to allow an extra bowler. That's the issue; not him batting below Stokes and Moeen.
"I'd have taken the risk with Trott, but I'm not sure how his technique can be successful against the new ball when he's walking about the crease. He's got to be still at the crease or he'll keep snicking off. I don't see how he will be opening the batting when Australia roll into town. England have gambled on Trott but if it doesn't work, they could be in a quandary."
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David Jackson: We have the batsmen but either don't play them or don't know their best place in the batting line-up. A much worse problem is our two best fast bowlers aren't getting any younger and I cannot remember the last time they took the opposition apart, let alone in tandem. None of our up-and-coming fast bowlers of the last couple of years look like they will be world beaters and with the Ashes just round the corner I find that much more worrying than whatever batting woes we are perceived to have.
"There was a time when England would come to the West Indies and get beaten by Barbados over and over again."
Geoffrey Boycott replies: "Not when I was playing, they didn't."
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Hasan Hussein: Belting sunshine across the UK and we have a rain delay in the Caribbean. In the garden with the suncream ready.
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I'm interested to see this criticism of Buttler being down to bat at eight. Personally, that's where I would have have him. Moeen and Stokes both have Test hundreds and have batted at six for most of their short careers. Ultimately, though, it probably doesn't really matter which order those three bat in.
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Gabriel: Buttler set to bat at 8. Do England trust him yet in Tests?
Simon: So Butler to bat at 8 in an ultra conservative "get a draw at least" line up. Why bother taking Lyth/Rashid?
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There's calypso music being played in Grenada, which isn't really in keeping with the mood at the ground. The groundstaff hover, ready to remove the covers and get us going should the rain relent.
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The players had emerged from the pavilion, pristine in white like an army of ice-cream men. The field was set, James Anderson had the ball, Kraigg Brathwaite had taken strike. And then, the rain returned and the players sprinted for cover.
"They keep lengthening the batting order. I reckon Cook and Moores have got an eye on what's round the corner with the Ashes, because they didn't bat well last time. They don't think about taking 20 wickets. Rashid's no Shane Warne, but he offers something that England haven't got."
"Sometimes when you're trying to force a victory you want a bowler who can offer something different. Liam Plunkett could have come in and bowled bouncers. With Moeen, Buttler and Stokes in the lower order, bowlers who can bat is not uppermost in my mind."
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I'll be interested to see if the ball swings under these leaden skies. If it does, then James Anderson will be a very interested man - he's got more Test wickets than Sir Ian Botham, you know. I just wonder if we have the conditions for the Windies to be bowled out cheaply.
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BBC Weather's Laura Gilchrist: Rain today should eventually clear although may be slow to do so, then the next couple of days look much improved with more sunshine, although afternoon showers can't be ruled out. It will be breezy, and with high temperatures around 27 or 28C.
Line-ups
West Indies XI: Devon Smith, Kraigg Brathwaite, Darren Bravo, Marlon Samuels, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Jermaine Blackwood, Denesh Ramdin (capt & wk), Jason Holder, Kemar Roach, Devendra Bishoo, Shannon Gabriel.
England XI: Alastair Cook (capt), Jonathan Trott, Gary Ballance, Ian Bell, Joe Root, Ben Stokes, Moeen Ali, Jos Buttler (wk), Chris Jordan, Stuart Broad, James Anderson.
"Experience tells me this wicket will spin. Spin will play a massive part in this game as it goes on. A lot comes down to the fact that Alastair Cook's an opening batsman, Jonathan Trott's not in good nick, there's moisture in the air."
"West Indies' best chance to win this game is probably to bat first, put up a good score, and then with Bishoo in their ranks...The danger is that they are fragile and if Anderson swings it this morning, they could easily be bowled out quite cheaply."
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James Gutteridge: Taylor being out could be the match winning factor for England, probably the only Windies bowler who looked really dangerous.
Charlie Rhodes: Standard conservative England selection. Boring! I don't know why I'm still surprised!
William Haggerty: Will never cease to be disappointed in England's team selection.
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I suspect that Alastair Cook will be very happy heading back to the dressing room, not only to have use of some overhead help, but also knowing that he hasn't got to open the batting in some tricky conditions. His pace attack, who toiled in that draw only four days ago, probably aren't quite so happy. What do you make of it all? Text, tweet and email...
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West Indies captain Denesh Ramdin: "We would have done the same with the rain around and the moisture. Two changes: Shannon Gabriel comes in for Jerome Taylor and Devendra Bishoo for Sulieman Benn. Jerome Taylor has a shoulder injury, it's a big blow as he's one of our best bowlers, but Gabriel will try and hustle the England batsmen. Bishoo's leg spin is fantastic and he can bowl long spells so hopefully he will get some purchase."
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England captain Alastair Cook: "It's been a decision playing on our minds. There's obviously quite a bit of moisture in the wicket, so we think it warrants a bowl. James Tredwell was fit, but Moeen takes wickets at 28 and deserves to come back and play. It's a tough call on Tredders, who never lets anyone down. The guys are raring to go."
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Perhaps the biggest headline from the toss is from the West Indies camp, with the home side without the injured pacer Jerome Taylor. Shannon Gabriel takes his place. We already knew that Devandra Bishoo was coming in for fellow spinner Sulieman Benn.
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"Heads is the call," says Mike Atherton, with a head peering upwards to the delight of Alastair Cook. England will field first, with Cook saying the moisture in the air has persuaded him to take the cherry first up. Denesh Ramdin would have done the same. Moeen Ali comes in for James Tredwell, so no debut for Adil Rashid.
"If you go with three seamers and two spinners, I think you have to bat first and put the the runs on the board. You have to give your spinners a chance. The West Indian seamers were inconsistent so you don't have much to worry about anyway."
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Right then, action. The skippers are heading out, Alastair Cook wearing his navy blue blazer over his whites. I'm ignorant to the etiquette of blazer-wearing, but are there any other circumstances when you would wear a clue blazer over a white outfit? Do players still don the blazers at lunchtime?
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While we're waiting for the start, let me point you in the direction of a moving story of a truly remarkable young man. Derbyshire wicketkeeper Tom Poynton lost his father in a car crash last year. Tom, now 25, was in the passenger seat and suffered leg injuries that nearly ended his career. He's been talking to BBC Sport's Sam Sheringham about coping with loss, returning to cricket and why he wants to help other young cricketers deal with adversity and make plans for life after cricket.
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Chris in London: My friend Foxy and I unfortunately found ourselves at the CWC Eng v Afg match at the SCG in March. During the persistent rain delays we turned to a trusty game of Gin Rummy in the pavillion. Judging by the way some members of the Barmy Army were escorted off the premises later that night, I think they'd had a little too much Gin, and not enough Rummie.
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Excellent stuff on TMS, Jonathan Agnew recounting the story of Curtly Ambrose's mum, who used to ring a bell every time that Curtly took a Test wicket. Imagine how popular she was with the neighbours when the Windies were away in New Zealand?
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James: Why are there no calls for Root to open again? Brought up doing it at Yorkshire and his technique had improved dramatically since moving down the order. It will also allow Trott to move to 3 and Ballance down to 5.
"England's middle-lower order is stiff with batting, whichever line-up they pick. They've got Stokes, Buttler, probably Moeen, Jordan or Rashid at nine, and Broad at ten. Although if you wanted to be cruel you could say Broad is batting a bit like a number ten at the moment."
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Now then, news. The sun is out and the umpires are having a chinwag. The toss will be at 15:40 BST, with play beginning at 16:00. We've been here before, so let's not get those hopes too high just yet.
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Marc: At the Mighty Milton Cricket Club, once home to Andy Bichel, we have created a grand old game for such occasions....its like indoor tennis, but with cricket bats and the good old leather ball, coffins and bags down the middle as the "net" 4 on each side and away you go, volleys only, and score doesn't matter. "Mind the Windows Tino" does apply!
"Two years ago when England were in New Zealand, Brendon McCullum gave a press conference where he said Alastair Cook was the closest thing to Don Bradman. Cook hasn't scored a run since. It's the greatest piece of reverse psychology I've ever seen."
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Duncan Saunders: Tredwell dropped? After taking 4 wickets in the last test? Scandalous considering this runway will spin.
Andrew Dennett: Definitely don't agree with dropping Tredders! Ali for Trott improves the batting and wouldn't weaken the bowling options.
"I'm pretty sure that England will bowl in these conditions if they win the toss. But for Trott and Cook, with the form they're in, the last thing they want is this delay."
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Clearly, spectators should always be ready for rain. Umbrella, waterproof, cloth to dry your seat when you return.
I once persuaded my girlfriend to come to watch a Test match with me. It rained all day. TV cameras picked me up trying to console her, explaining why it was a good thing that we'd spent the day at an empty cricket ground watching the rain fall.
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An ex-pro, who shall remain anonymous for his own protection, once told me that "players love rain", the reason being that they like the time to rest and indulge in some dressing-room banter. What is the best way to pass the time, for both players and spectators, when it's raining? Hit the bar? Play cards? Sleep?
"I think I'd look to bowl first. There is a bit of moisture around. When you're a captain and opening batsman as well, there's always a bit of self-preservation."
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Raining again, covers back on. I give up.
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If they do manage to flick the coin at 15:25, then play will begin at 15:45. Stick with me, I promise this hokey cokey won't last all day.
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Movement. Alastair Cook has his whites on and is in the middle, pressing down on the pitch like a man checking on the state of his lawn. The toss is scheduled for 15:25 BST. However, it's trying to rain again. Quite frankly, we haven't got a clue what's going on.
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Mike Bell in Ashford: Re Kevin Downey (14.43). The answer to "I wonder what Test cricket would be like if innings were restricted to one hundred overs per side and a new ball every fifty overs?" is simple. It wouldn't be Test cricket.
"I think we'd have seen a cap presentation if Rashid was playing. At the moment, I think it's just the one change - Ali for Tredwell."
Graeme Swann adds: "Peter Moores gave Chris Jordan a hug. Was it a hug to say sorry, or to say well done? We don't know."
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Hello there, sunshine. The ground is slowly being bathed in the good stuff. Surely it can't be too long before they drag the players away from the card school to toss the coin?
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I, Rob: The only thing Cook's improved at in the last 2 years is giving away his wicket. It used to take a crowbar to get him out.
Jay: Can I get my hands on the data processor that Cook has used to claim he has improved? I'd love to prove a thing or two to my boss.
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Moeen Ali is heaving a medicine ball-type device into the ground, needing both arms to lift it and slam it into the turf. He looks like a man who is playing in this match.
"You don't want to get to the summer having not had a look at Rashid. You might need two spinners during the Ashes. This is an opportunity to look at Rashid slightly under the radar. He has the ability to bowl one or two match-winning spells."
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Now, is it just clearing a little? A hint of sunshine, covers moved to one side, umpires out on the middle. The players are back out too. Live text experience has taught me to avoid providing a weather forecast, so I'll stick to what I can see. It's brighter than it was, they'd be playing if it was a Saturday club game. Get 'em out there.
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Louis Parry: Lyth has to be given the chance as does Rashid: brilliant seasons last year, too scared to pick form over experience.
Richard Oelmann: Trott is a top middle order batsman, but not an opener. We have established openers, so he should be fighting for the 3-4 slot.
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There's a huge blue sheet covering the entire square, the tarpaulin now has puddles on it that are growing with every drop. There's not much sign of any fans inside the ground. "Come on, we'll go to the Caribbean. Watch some cricket in the sunshine, it'll be lovely."
"I like Jonathan Trott but he's not an opener. His record shows that, he doesn't like it and the selectors have put him in a difficult position. Maybe Gary Ballance should open and Trotty can go in at three. It would be harsh on Ballance, but might be a better alternative."
'I've improved' - Cook
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Cook has not hit a Test century since plundering 130 against New Zealand at Headingley in 2013 - Manchester United have had three different managers since then.
He does, however, believe he is getting better as a batsman and has been studying his technique in an effort to regain his form.
"I did have a look back in early February and watched a little a bit and it has changed quite a lot," he said. "It's evolutionary, if you tried to go back to exactly what you did it would probably be really unnatural.
"You're always constantly trying to tinker with technique. I'd like to think my game has improved over time, I definitely believe it has, it's just different."
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If you're Alastair Cook, what do you do if you call correctly? Bat first on a pitch likely to be good for batting, or bowl in what could be the best overhead conditions of the entire match?
Maybe try to lose the toss? If it transpires that England bat first, then the skipper will once again be under the microscope.
"You need spin options because it's not going to be wet and muggy for five days - this wicket is going to turn. You need two spinners and I think the right option is to look at Adil Rashid."
"England will wait until the last moment to announce their XI. The rain will spice up the pitch, which could mean they stick with four seamers. They might have announced a 12, waiting until they got here to name the XI. It might be a couple of hours before we find out."
"It's steady, rather persistent drizzle. At the moment the covers are on. I'd imagine that once it stops, it shouldn't take too long before we have some cricket. We know the West Indies have dropped Sulieman Benn and brought in Devendra Bishoo - we think that will be the only change."
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Graeme Love: Negative selection from England. Australia wouldn't keep with Cook, Trott, Broad if they weren't consistently performing. The team should be Mooen, Lyth, Ballance, Bell, Root, Stokes, Buttler, Jordan, Woakes, Rashid, Anderson.
Turtle Crew: Why is no one talking about Moeen opening, Trott for me is too early for him. Moeen opening keep Tredwell in...nice balance, attacking side.
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Now, here's some fun. If leggie Adil Rashid does make his Test debut, he will become the 666th man to don an England Test cap. I'm told that the next England debutant will be given the option of avoiding wearing 666 on his shirt for the rest of his Test career, simply skipping on to 667.
I wonder what Rashid (or whoever it turns out to be) will do.
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Kevin Downey: Is there anything worse in cricket than seeing a side, comprehensively beaten over five days, celebrating madly after gaining a draw, while the side that deserved to win trudges off the field as though they have lost. I agree that draws can be exciting but I feel cricket would be morally better without them and I wouldn't have to keep explaining to people who keep saying how can it be a draw. I wonder what Test cricket would be like if innings were restricted to one hundred overs per side and a new ball every fifty overs?
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Hmmm, this isn't good news. Proper rain in Grenada now, enough for umbrellas to go up and the players to scuttle off for a brew. Also, I've now heard a rumour that Adil Rashid will be the man to replace Tredwell. Frankly, we won't know what's going on until the skippers come out for a flick.
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What do you make of England's problems at the top of the order? Moeen or Tredders? Rashid too? Also, do you bat or bowl if you win the toss? The deck is probably good for batting, but the overheads suggest a day for the swingers.
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Right, we can confirm that the toss is delayed. Grenada is covered in grey cloud, some hazy mist hangs over a pretty empty stadium. However, the weather isn't preventing the players from being out there warming up. The start isn't delayed... yet.
One more pressing question to answer is 'will we start on time?'. There's a touch of rain in Grenada, the covers have been on. We may have a slight delay.
Chat from the ground is that Moeen Ali will indeed return to the England team after the side strain that ruled him out of the first Test. James Tredwell looks to be the man missing out.
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The one whopping great quandary facing captain Alastair Cook is his own form and the identity of his opening partner. Both he and Jonathan Trott need runs.
Also, how can England take 20 wickets on pitches that seem to age better than Helen Mirren? The focus seems to be coming on the spin bowling. Moeen Ali in for James Tredwell? Space for Adil Rashid?
And what about the pace bowlers? Anderson's record aside, why didn't they get as much joy as the Windies attack?
All this, with only four Tests to get it right before the Ashes begins.
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Which brings us to the England cricket team, who, if we're honest, were probably pleased to have a distraction from the questions thrown up in the drawn first Test with West Indies.
That came in the rather giant shape of a new England Test wickets record for James Anderson (who will probably tell you that closing in on the record was a distraction, but that is getting away from the point).
Much of the chat since that stalemate in Antigua has been heaping deserved praise on the Burnley Express. But, with that out of the way, England have nowhere to hide in the second Test in Grenada.
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Fergie was the master. A poor performance, a defeat? Create a distraction.
The ref wasn't fit enough, the kit was the wrong colour, the opposition manager refused a cuddle, our dressing room smelt funny.
Anything to take focus away from the fact that things haven't gone to plan.
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Distractions. Pretty much every sportsman who has ever had a microphone shoved under his nose will tell you that they are unwelcome. There are times, though, when they are quite handy.
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And that is where our day comes to an end. Honours even? Perhaps. Set up nicely for tomorrow? Definitely. See you then.
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Speaking of tomorrow, today's rain mean we will start a little earlier, with play set to begin at 14:45 BST.
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"We want to come back tomorrow and get them out for 250 but a score of 300 would be good for them."
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But then Marlon Samuels jolted into life, finding the throttle after leaving his way to 50. His duel with Ben Stokes was the most compelling action of the day, while the returning Moeen Ali was wayward and punished. When the light closed in, Samuels was sitting on 94, his stand with Denesh Ramdin worth 59. The Windies 188-5, honours about even and nicely poised for an important first session tomorrow.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"Moores and Cook chose to bring Rashid out here and now you hear things like he is not bowling well enough in the nets and they do not have any faith in him. Rashid is the type of player who could be expensive but can take wickets. You need a captain that can handle a player going through periods of being expensive but can take wickets for you."
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The Windies battled hard, England weren't always at their best with the ball and three catches went down, yet, somehow, the home side were reduced to 129-5. Dwayne Bravo wasted some good work with a limp edge to slip off Stuart Broad, Shivnarine Chanderpaul loosely chipped Ben Stokes to gully and the impressive Chris Jordan pinned Jermaine Blackwood lbw. Soon after tea, the Windies were in trouble.
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Geoffrey Boycott
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"I am not blaming the players for a slow day of the cricket it is the pitch. These are slow, turgid batting pitches and if you had two good teams you would need 10 days for the Test. I was not opposed England choosing to bowl but because the West Indies are not a good side. If it had been me I would have batted, I do not expect any imagination from Moores or Cook. This is a slow surface like the last one and on the last day you would have loved to swapped Rashid for another fourth seamer - who is just up and down."
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It seems a long time ago that England won the toss after a near two-hour rain delay and opted to field in conditions that seemed ideal for swing bowling. James Anderson certainly thought that was the case, bowling Brathwaite with an unplayable in-swinger, but some inconsistent bowling and watchful batting meant England had to wait until the end of the first session for their second breakthrough. Even then, it was an error, Devon Smith didn't hit one that was given caught behind off Chris Jordan. 36-2 at lunch.
Close of play scorecard
WI 188-5 (70 overs)
Batsmen: Samuels 94*, Ramdin 6*
Fall of wickets: 2-1 (Brathwaite 1), 28-2 (Smith 15), 65-3 (Bravo 35), 74-4 (Chanderpaul 1), 129-5 (Blackwood 26).
Bowling figures: Anderson 15-8-18-1, Broad 16-5-42-1, Jordan 16-3-40-2, Moeen 12-1-45-0, Stokes 10-4-33-1, Trott 1-0-2-0.
England won toss and chose to field.
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Geoffrey Boycott
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"I feel a little disappointed for the spectators, the players and Test match cricket because a lot of people came very far to watch a day where it was hard to score runs. It was hard for the batsman and bowlers to get on top. Crowds are going down and you are wanting people to watch Test cricket but I feel the groundsman here has ruined the pitch."
Close of play
WI 188-5
Finally, that is your lot. West Indies close on 188-5. Hard to tell who is on top, but we can say that the Windies would be a lot worse off had Marlon Samuels not weighed in with his unbeaten 94. Remember, they were 129-5 and would have bitten your hand for this position when James Anderson cleaned up Kraigg Brathwaite early this morning. England have been good in parts, not so good in others. They have dropped three catches.
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WI 188-5
The umpires are still in the middle. The bails are off, the stumps are still in. The groundstaff want to get the covers on, but are being made to wait.
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WI 188-5
It might not be the close, but we can say with certainty that bad light has stopped play. Everyone is marching off, James Anderson the last to go after a word with the umpires. It's hard to imagine a situation where the light will improve enough to bring them back out, but for now, we await the official close.
WI 188-5 (Samuels 94, Ramdin 6)
England, under umpire's orders, throw the ball to Moeen Ali. If they decide they've had enough, they could get one of the pacers on and see us to the close. If Moeen keeps bowling long hops, that's exactly what might happen. Samuels pulls for four, nearing a hundred. Hang on, where's everyone going? Is that it?
WI 184-5 (Samuels 90, Ramdin 6)
Hmmm, we've reached that time of the day when England can't summon any more efforts from their front-line bowlers, so ask Jonathan Trott to dob down his medium-pacers. Not really threatening, but at least it brings the Barmy Army song to the tune of the Only Fools and Horses theme. Tidy from Trott, a couple of singles from it. The umpires have a little chat about the light, with lightmeter out to take a reading. It's decided that there's only enough light for the spinners.
WI 182-5 (68 overs)
Alastair Cook stands at slip, hands on hips and gum in mouth. He has a word with vice-skip Ian Bell, then starts counting the fielders, as if to make sure they are all there. "I'm sure we more than this when we started". Stokes, breathing hard, gets one past the bat of Samuels and into the batsman's thigh. That'll sting if it's missed the thigh pad. Getting darker again.
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Andrew Hornby: With Moeen Ali now finding his rhythm this would have been a great point in the game to have two spinners on, turning in both directions had they picked Adil Rashid instead of Stuart Broad. We know what Broad brings and Rashid might have been more suited to this wicket.
WI 180-5 (Samuels 88, Ramdin 4)
Moeen continues to wheel away, throwing his elbows out before twirling the ball down. A looper off the front pad of Samuels has both keeper and short leg interested, but nothing doing. When Moeen drops short, Samuels cuts for four to move nearer the 90s. Which team is happier at the moment? England would have wanted six or seven wickets after winning the toss and fielding, whereas the Windies are rebuilding with purpose. This stand is now worth 51.
WI 174-5 (66 overs)
Stokes slips in to his nemesis Samuels in light that seems to be improving. The Durham man has sweat glistening on his forehead and tattoos on both upper arms. I believe the cool kids call it "ink". No histrionics between Stokes and Samuels, who is denied runs to third man by the dive of Joe Root at gully. A maiden. I reckon there are 13 overs left in the day, if we can fit them in.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"Samuels has chanced his arm in the last half-an-hour to single-handedly try to bring some life into this game."
WI 174-5 (Samuels 83, Ramdin 4)
Moeen asks the question against Samuels, who was hiding his bat but still convinces Bruce Oxenford that he's playing a shot. Better from the brilliantly bearded Moeen, who has landed on a better length. On those surrounding hills, some local children try to get a kite flying. No joy.
Why are overthrows called 'buzzers'?
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Julia Ball in Stevenage: A "moll-buzzer" is archaic street slang for a pick pocket who targets women. "Buzzing" is picking pockets so presumably a "Buzzer" would be someone who steals on the sly....which is exactly what you do when "stealing" runs for an overthrow.
Simon Gleaden in Redford: I think "buzzers" as a term for overthrows originates at Eton College and that it was the Old Etonians Brian Johnston and Henry Blofeld who popularised it by using it on TMS.
WI 173-5
Still Stokes, but his duel with Samuels is on hold as Ramdin negotiates an over of in-duckers with some watchful defence. Good pace from Stokes, who touches 90mph. He's charging towards that hotel-type building and, beyond that, some small white houses built into the hills that surround the ground. In the stands, the Barmy Army sing their version of The Lion Sleeps Tonight. I'm fairly certain it has something to do with which beer they will be on later.
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William Lambie in Birmingham: The problem is that grounds want four sell-out days with last-minute ticket sales for day five, and they're all terrified, after the amounts they have to shell out on getting a Test match in the first place, of losing money. So the ICC needs to cover ticket losses in the event of an early finish to encourage surfaces more conducive to a result.
WI 173-5 (Samuels 82, Ramdin 4)
It will be Moeen Ali, who immediately gets one to turn sharply through Ramdin's gate. Beats everyone and goes for a bye. When Samuels gets down to the business end, a horrible long hop is pulled to the boundary. In all honesty, Moeen isn't having the best of days, while Samuels is eyeing a hundred before the close. This stand is worth 44 from only nine overs.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"I would have left Rashid in England to play county cricket. I would probably have left Broad and Jimmy at home as well. It is going to be a heavy summer with Tests and ODIs against New Zealand and we have to play better against the Australians this summer. If we had had a good World Cup they may well not have come but I think the selectors chose the best team to save a few people's jobs."
WI 164-5 (62 overs)
Still Stokes v Samuels, the feisty Durham all-rounder v the laconic biffer from Jamaica. A word from Stokes, a word back from Samuels. Stokes will be pleased to see that from Marlon, the fact he's managed to get a word out mean he might not be fully focussed on his batting. Some big reverse hoop, clipped for a couple, Samuels having a word has he jogs past. Ah, Stokes breaks first, hurling the ball back at Samuels and giving away some overthrows. Steve Davis has another word. I reckon a twirl of Moeen Ali might be the way to go against the rampaging Samuels.
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Ian Lawrence: Instead of a penalty shoot-out (see 21:52) why not rule that a team has won if the team batting last do not get within 80-100 (maybe 150) runs of the team bowling's second innings total?
That way, the third innings team need to bat and make a big enough total to negate the 80-100 runs rule and might just get bowled out in the process, thus allowing the fourth innings team to chase a total that might be achievable if only to force the draw?
WI 160-5 (61 overs)
In a 27-run partnership, Ramdin had contributed nothing before sweetly driving Broad straight down the ground for four. Broad responds by finding a hint of reverse swing, arcing the ball back in to the right-hander, who has to skip around to keep it out. Still plenty of clapping and drumming in the crowd, who are beign entertained more now that at any other point in the day.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"Everybody will struggle to score but there will come a moment in the game when a batsman will work really hard and then there will be 20 minutes when they will get runs. He has lost his patience. When he first started to play cricket he did so with such ease, lazy, no trouble timing the ball. He does not think too much. The best thing Ramdin can do is keep him off strike and let him calm down. He could have been out a few times in these last five minutes."
WI 156-5 (Samuels 70, Ramdin 0)
It's almost as if Marlon Samuels has passed 50 and has decided that every ball now has to go to the boundary. Did you ever play Brian Lara Cricket and try hitting everything for six? A bit like that. He's throwing the bat at the spider-like Ben Stokes, with the result being a slash over point for four, a couple through extra cover and a thick edge between third slip and gully for four. Stokes, not renowned for being able to keep his emotions in check, is boiling like a kettle, with umpire Steve Davis having a word. Samuels living dangerously, but moving the score on. This is the most watchable cricket of the day.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"Except from the one mistake when he should have been caught, he's played splendidly. He's held the innings together after being one of the three to give their wickets away with bad shots in Antigua."
50 for Marlon Samuels
WI 146-5
Marlon Samuels' three-and-a-quarter hour duty has yielded a 22nd Test half-century, completed by punching Stuart Broad down the ground. Next ball, Samuels looks to celebrate by launching the ball off the island, succeeding in hitting only fresh air and almost dislocating his shoulders. Broad, never short of something insightful to say, offers Marlon some batting tips. Samuels then biffs over cover for four. Nice contest.
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Brain Mainwaring: Dominic Cork. Robbie Williams. Slash (Guns n Roses). Stoke on Trent. Let me entertain you.
Neil Reader in Ipswich: Best I can do for my home town of Ipswich is 80's legend Nik Kershaw and Aussie opener Shane Watson (ok he is Ipswich, Queensland).
WI 135-5 (Samuels 49, Ramdin 0)
Grenville, do you mean a shootout exactly like they do in football? So if the match is drawn, they stick some goals on the outfield and take five kicks from the spot? Wicketkeeper goes in goal? I'm not sure it would catch on, but I'd like to know which international cricketers you'd back in a penalty shootout. Chris Jordan, who seems to have been bowling all day, has a good root around Marlon Samuels by employing a full length. When Jordan drops short, Samuels takes four through point.
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Grenville Cross in Pretoria, SA: A friend of mine from Slovakia who knows nothing about cricket could not believe that after five days playing the last Test ended a draw. Something must be done. Why don't they have a shoot out like they do in football?
WI 130-5 (Samuels 44, Ramdin 0)
Broad strains his way towards the diminutive Ramdin, who has two slips, two gullies and a shortish mid-on for company. Some back-of-a-length stuff has captain Ramdin jumping about, but the wicketkeeper remains. It's getting darker and there are no floodlights. Bad lightingtons to stop play at some point?
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"If England had bowled to their best in this match then the West Indies would have been seven or eight down now. We have seen England get teams in these positions plenty of times in last couple of years but have allowed them to go on and get 320-350 - with the likes of Haddin and Holder in the last Test getting away."
WI 130-5
So the Windies are five down and England have also dropped three catches. It hasn't felt like a bowling performance good enough to create eight wicket-taking chances, yet Cook will feel like his side are justifying his decision to bowl first. Marlon Samuels, well on with an emotionless, gum-chewing vigil, plays back a Jordan maiden as the band continues with its wall of sound from the stands.
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WI 130-5 after 55 overs
Not out batsmen: Samuels 44, Ramdin 0
Bowling figures: Anderson 15-8-18-1, Broad 12-4-26-1, Jordan 14-2-35-2, Moeen 8-1-27-0, Stokes 5-2-17-1
England won toss and chose to field
WI 130-5 (Jordan 14-2-35-2)
Chris Jordan was pleading with Davis as he appealed, giving it a "come on, man" when the umpire shook his head. When the decision was overturned, there were fist pumps from both Jordan and the staff on the England balcony. Jordan was rewarded for keeping a fullish length, the slight nip doing for Blackwood, who planted that front dog. Captain Denesh Ramdin is the new man, watching from the other end as Marlon Samuels gets away with a horrible flat-footed swipe at Stuart Broad. This could yet be a very good day for England.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"It is a really good review when you think that England have lost one already. Some many times with lbw it is umpire's call. Jordan has bowled nicely, of all the bowlers he looked like he was the one who was going to take a wicket and he has. The clouds have just started to back over and maybe that is having a bit of an effect."
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Blackwood lbw Jordan 26 (WI 129-5)
Gone! The decision is overturned and Jermaine Blackwood is on his way. Chris Jordan just got that to nip a little off the seam, with Blackwood playing all across the line. The replay shows that Steve Davis got it wrong and the ball would have clattered the leg stump. Stuart Broad's drop doesn't prove too costly and England are cockahoop. They are halfway through the Windies batting.
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WI 129-4
It's hit Blackwood on the knee-roll. No inside edge...
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WI 129-4
This has got to be very, very close. Chris Jordan to Jermaine Blackwood, batsman playing around the front pad. Looks dead, but Steve Davis says no. I'm reviewing and Alastair Cook is too. High?
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Owen from Whitley Bay: Michael Vaughan - we doctored our pitches exactly the same when the Aussies came last time. Dry, spinning pitches when we knew we had Swanny. The West Indies are simply setting their pitches up to play to their strengths, the same as we did. It's a shame we don't get seaming/swinging pitches like Trent Bridge anymore but we stopped them intentionally! So we need to practice what we preach.
Blackwood dropped on 20
WI 126-4
Another chance goes down! This time it's Stuart Broad off his own bowling, Jermaine Blackwood chipping the ball back. Head height, to Broad's left, through the hands and for four. That's three England have dropped on a pitch where chances are hard to come by. Already they have to make at least 13 opportunities to take 10 wickets. To add a a little insult, the boundary brings up the 50 partnership.
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Tony Cozier
BBC Test Match Special
"I do not know if the groundstaff know how to make the pitches like they used to. Now they are using the sit down motorised roller and a lot of people feel like that is causing the problem."
WI 122-4 (run-rate 2.40)
Stuart Broad, floppy sunhat on his head, goes through some looseners as Jordan creeps in. Is it a bit early to be lamenting how slow the pitch is? Don't judge until both teams have batted, etc. Having said that, it looks to have all the pace of a wardrobe and the run-rate has not threatened 2.50 all day. When we start talking about " a day for the purists" and "an absorbing day", it usually means the cricket has been a bit turgid. One from it, a wide. Says it all.
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Test cricket's future
Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"I take quite a reckoning from my little lad who is nine, he turns on the television and sees the Big Bash - he sees the lights and colours and music. He does not turn on the television for Test cricket. Of course it's a much larger market you are looking at but you have got to market and sell Test cricket better to the younger audience and playing on a pitch like this will not do it any good. I am sure the groundsman has done his best."
WI 121-4 (Samuels 42, Blackwood 20)
James Anderson comes round the wicket to Blackwood, shifting Gary Ballance to a short leg that is just behind square. I'd want a suit of armour to stand there, there's a high risk of the ball being whipped at a fleshy part of the body. Anderson targets Blackwood between hip and head height, with the right-hander weaving to get out of the way. I'll be honest, it's not thrilling stuff.
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Ed Smith
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"One of the odd features of this ground is there is a lime green scorecard and in right front of that there is a small one that is changed by hand. The electronic one didn't work for the first couple hours of play."
WI 121-4 (Jordan 12-2-31-1)
Since that Cook drop of Samuels, it's all been a bit flat for England, the ball not looking like to beat the bat, which is slowly getting on top. Samuels, laid back, but in a slightly dozy, rather than a cool way, tickles Jordan for a couple, then plays out the rest of the over with minimal fuss. I wonder if England are thinking they are a spinner short of an attack.
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Ed Smith
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"A microcosm of the pitch is the way Blackwood played one of the balls in that over. He played it from the crease more backward then forward and it seemed like he had half an hour it play it. These types of pitches are not good for international cricket."
WI 119-4 (partnership 45)
Jermaine Blackwood, crouching and squinting, now has a helmeted silly point for company as Anderson arcs some in-swingers towards the timbers. When Anderson drops short, Blackwood leans back to upper-cut over the slips for four. Phil Simmons, the West Indies coach, doesn't even crack a smile. He perhaps still remembers the awful shot that Blackwood played in the second innings at Antigua. It's pretty gloomy out there, I'd bet a penny to a tenner that we won't make it through to the close without seeing a light meter.
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Cricketers and pop stars
Stuart Onslow: Jos Buttler was born in Taunton. So were the Wurzels! Altogether now! 'We've got a brand new wicket keeper..'
Min Patel and Mick Jagger both attended Dartford Grammar School in Kent - Robert in Houston, Texas (also a DGS old boy)
WI 115-4 (48 overs)
The hard-done-by Jordan continues to shuffle in to Samuels, who is wearing a black baselayer underneath his white playing shirt. Looks a bit village - does he not have a white one? The building that Jordan is running towards looks a bit like a hotel, albeit one that isn't yet fully built and where you'd be lucky to not find a creepy-crawly in your bed. Ooofff, that's horrible from Jordan, Samuels cutting a long hop for four.
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Ben Thapa: How long does one man (namely Cook) go without seemingly doing anything useful individually, before things become untenable?
David: Hope the next thing Alastair Cook drops is himself.
Mike Brookes: You can't drop them as an international cricketer!
WI 109-4 (Samuels 34, Blackwood 16)
If England have been winded by that drop, then Joe Root is doing his best to chirp some oxygen back into their lungs. James Anderson responds with a bumper that has Blackwood jack-knifing backwards, with Root asking for "half an hour that, boys". Anderson continues to bend his back as the steel band (or what I think is a steel band) continues to tap out the soundtrack of the day. I wonder when England's next chance will come.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"Ian Bell at second slip flinched a bit which made Alastair Cook think he was going for it and put him off. It was a very full ball and the slips are standing very close because of the slow pitch - Cook just took his eye off the ball slightly. It should have been taken."
Samuels dropped on 32
WI 108-4
Oh, skipper. What's the old cliche? "There's no such thing as an easy slip catch." Well, this is one of the easier ones and it's gone down, giving Marlon Samuels a life. Widish from Chris Jordan, Samuels throwing the kitchen sink and getting only a thick edge, the ball travelling to the right of Cook at first slip, about hip height. The captain gets two hands to it, but never comes close to catching the it, the ball dropping to the turf and allowing the Windies to take a single. An under-pressure skipper has to take those.
WI 107-4 (Samuels 32, Blackwood 16)
Indeed it is Anderson, still swinging the ball, albeit with the radar slightly skewed towards the leg side. On the England balcony, Paul Farbrace is slumped in his chair like a man auditioning for a part in the Royle Family, while Ottis Gibson sips from the tiniest tea cup you have ever seen. Either that, or it just looks small in his giant hands. Uneventful over.
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Cricketers and pop stars
Tony: David Gower, born in Royal Tunbridge Well, where both Shane MacGowan & Sid Vicious both resided for a while. All three born in 1957.
Juxtaposed: Nasser Hussain was born in Madras like grammy award winner AR Rahman of Jai Ho fame from the film Slumdog Millionaire.
Tim Keogh: Andrew Strauss, Alex Hales both played as youngsters at Gerrards Cross Cricket Club - as did Joe Keogh, singer of Amber Run.
Close!
WI 106-4
Ooohhh, a pretty rank ball from Chris Jordan almost gets him a second wicket. A wide full toss, moving away from Blackwood, who throws his hands through it. The ball flashes between those two gullies, past the dive of Ben Stokes and away for four. James Anderson goes through some arm-loosening exercises at mid-on, the man with more wickets than any other England bowler looks set to pick up the attack from t'other end.
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Andrew Samson
BBC Test Match Special statistician
"England have had a number of teams that have gone into a match with 10 players having scored fifties, but never all 11. However, at Lord's v India last year, Plunkett got a fifty making all 11 in that team having a Test 50. The England team at Lord's and Nottingham last year had 9 players with Test 100s in them."
WI 102-4
The players are back after their brew break - Chris Jordan will be bowling to Jermaine Blackwood with two slips and two gullies sniffing an edge.
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Cricketers and pop stars
Nick currently in Copenhagen: Freddie Flintoff is in esteemed company from Preston - Jessica Taylor from Liberty X, Ken Nicol from Steeleye Span and the seminal British thrash metal band Xentrix.
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When a man isn't on the live text, he's sent to the shop to get the biscuits in. I've done my bit - chocolate and digestives. Snacks will be important in this marathon final session of the day. We could be playing until 23:30 if the light holds.
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Right, it's time for me to bid you adieu and leave you in the capable hands of Stephan Shemilt...
Jimmy's dad talks to TMS
Michael Anderson on TMS: "I can't claim much credit. When your son's playing for England you don't step in - you just leave the coaches to it. Jimmy used to come down and watch me playing on weekends. Every evening when I came home from work we would play out in the garden, and he wouldn't let me give my wicket away - he would always made sure he got me out. I think when he was 16 or 17, he shot up to six foot and started bowling fairly quickly - then I realised that he might have something."
Jimmy's dad talks to TMS
Michael Anderson on TMS: "I'm very proud. It was a long wait - it was such a flat wicket in Antigua. For the whole family to be together when he did it was fantastic. It was such a good delivery to get the [record 384th] wicket, and quite appropriate that Cooky took the catch - their careers have followed a similar path."
Finn hopeful of improvement
Following remedial work Finn is starting to believe he has a lasting solution - thanks largely to watching video footage of him at his best.
"I came back to England and had to realign everything, but it's not easy once you've grooved bad habits," he said.
"It's taken a long time, but this running thing could be the last piece in the puzzle.
"You can see when I was running up as a carefree 21-year-old, I just legged it to the crease - it was natural. As I've had to think about other things, there's been tension that has come into my run-up."
Finn opens up on bowling problems
Steven Finn has given a remarkably candid interview today that is just reaching us. In it he identifies the decision to shorten his run-up a couple of years ago as the source of his bowling problems - but blames nobody but himself.
"The short run got canned quite quickly after it came in," he said. "I think that's what cocked me up really - looking back at it, coming off a short run made everything tense and made me force bowling quick.
"It worked for a brief time in New Zealand. I didn't quite have the feeling of bowling well, but I was getting the results - so it was masked over.
"The short-term fix wasn't a fix to the long-term problem. It's taken a bit of unravelling, but it's no-one's fault other than mine."
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"You felt that England looked a little stronger and well equipped for this surface. The West Indies batting and bowling is patchy. In all honesty it should be 102-2 not 102-4. Then they would have thought, having been put into bat on this pitch, they were doing ok. On this surface patience is key and this West Indies side are not known for that. They can play nicely for 25 minutes but then have a wild swipe. They do not have the resistance or adaptability to play this type of game. They play well and then do something rubbish."
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So England with the upper hand after two sessions of the first day, although the West Indies have battled hard and shown admirable resilience at times.
It was a session of two halves. For the first hour England looked toothless, but the wickets of Darren Bravo and Shivnarine Chanderpaul in quick succession have given the scorecard a much more pleasing look for the visitors.
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Stay tuned to TMS at tea time. they have a special guest - none other than James Anderson's dad - Michael Anderson. A proud man, no doubt.
WI 102-4
Moeen to deliver the last over before tea. Blackwood brings up the West Indies' 100 with a single to deep square, and he, alongside Marlon Samuels, makes it safely through to tea. England will be relatively happy with that session, though.
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Cricketers and pop stars
Will in Altrincham: Jimmy Anderson and Jonny Marr both live near Altrincham.
Ian Mills: Cliff Richard and Suresh Raina are both from Lucknow!
James Marshall: The small town of Bellshill in Scotland is where Mike Denness came from. Along with pop star Sheena Easton, Sir Matt Busby and Ally McCoist.
Giles in Leicestershire: Stuart Broad attended Oakham School. So did Jay Kay of Jamiroquai.
WI 98-4 (Samuels 29, Blackwood 11)
Stokes, his meaty biceps girded with ink, continues. He has his arms aloft in appeal-cum-celebration when he produces an absolute pearler that cuts Blackwood in half like a magician's assistant. But there's no edge there, much to his chagrin. And then he gets Blackwood driving recklessly outside off. Bit of afters between the two as well, clearly no love lost out there.
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Cricketers and pop stars
Ollie in Sheffield: Joe Root's hometown of Sheffield has a rich musical history. Arctic Monkeys and The Human League to name two.
WI 93-4
Samuels blocks out the rest of Moeen's over.
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Tony Cozier
BBC Test Match Special
"It was a big confident appeal as Samuels stretched a long way forward. Umpires give the batsmen the benefit when they come forward. There was always going to be a good chance it was going to Umpires Call. It was worth a review. There is a body of belief that if it does come back Umpires Call then the team should lose their review."
Not out
The ball-tracking system shows the ball clipping the top of leg stump, but not by enough to overturn the on-field decision.
Umpire review
Moeen Ali hits Marlon Samuels on the pad - the umpire says not out, but England want a second opinion...
WI 92-4 (Stokes 4-2-12-1)
Ben Stokes has been playing on Marlon Samuels's patience - offering him nothing, keeping him tied down and after ten scoreless deliveries off the Durham man, Samuels snaps, and chases a big booming drive that he slightly miscues, but hits well enough to force behind point for four. England would dearly love another wicket before the interval...
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Cricketers and pop stars
Christopher Gabbett: Legendary Australian frontman of Cold Chisel, Jimmy Barnes, lives in Bowral, NSW. So did some bloke called Bradman.
Nigel John Mundy: How about Bristol's WG Grace and The Brilliant Corners.
Robin Fry: You couldn't tell from his accent, but Jonathan Agnew is from Macclesfield - just like Ian Curtis
WI 87-4
That's better from Moeen - a much, more accurate probing over that forces Blackwood to play out a maiden.
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Stephen Downer: Derek Underwood was born in Bromley, Kent, where David Bowie studied art, music and design at Bromley Technical High School (source: Wikipedia).
James Eady: Aren't Steve Finn and Elton John both from Watford?
WI 87-4 (Samuels 22, Blackwood 7)
Marlon Samuels has really curbed his usual enthusiasm for big shots today - just two fours from 74 balls so far for the Jamaican. He plays out a second consecutive maiden from Stokes.
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Tattz in Nottingham: Backing Moeen to take a fair few wickets in the second innings. He will need this first innings just to remember how to play test cricket again. Good to see genuine turn from an English spinner though!
WI 87-4
Moeen Ali is reintroduced - will that catch have imbued him with confidence? It doesn't look like it - his first ball of his new spell is short and wide and cut for four by Samuels, and then Blackwood milks him for two. Penny for James Tredwell's thoughts, not to mention those of Adil Rashid?
WI 80-4 (Stokes 2-1-7-1)
Jermaine Blackwood showed in the first Test that he can operate in fits and starts - and sure enough, after driving his first two balls down the ground, he plays out a shotless maiden from Stokes.
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"Unless the light improves it looks like we might have a curtailed day - there are no floodlights here in Grenada."
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Cricketers and pop stars
Silas Gregory: Did we decide that Bell is a Coventry lad? If so, that's The Specials' home town.
Alan Compton: Liam Plunkett shares his Nunthorpe hometown with Amelia Lily of 2011 X-Factor fame.
Ian D: How about the 'Royal Borough' of Croydon, birthplace of both Kirsty McColl (who saw Elvis at her local chip shop don't forget) and the whole Surrey and England Butcher dynasty!
WI 80-4
England have really toiled at times in this session, but they've been rewarded for plugging away - and what a blow the dismissal of Chanderpaul is for West Indies. The Guyanese veteran just didn't get his weight into the shot, he was playing too far away from his body. Broad continues to test Marlon Samuels with a fullish length, and Marlon Samuels continues to search for his timing - squirting one to square leg and then under-edging to cover.
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Oliver Metcalfe: I turn on TMS, and the very next ball, Chanderpaul goes. You're welcome, British public.
Anthony Berry: Got in the bath, England took a wicket. Dropped the remote which changed the channel, England get a wicket.
WI 80-4 (Samuels 17, Blackwood 5)
Jermaine Blackwood is the new batsman. He had a game of two halves in the first Test - making an impressive maiden century in the first innings, then losing his wicket to what Jonathan Agnew called "one of the worst shots I've ever seen" in the second. But he's away nicely here - punching a single down the ground, and then driving sweetly to the mid-on boundary.
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"What an awful shot from a nondescript ball. He reached for it and just spooned it up to Moeen. What a gift. It was a horrible shot. There have been some gifts today and especially from a player of Chanderpaul's experience."
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Chanderpaul c Moeen b Stokes 1 (WI 74-4)
Ben Stokes is brought into the attack, and he strikes with his second ball! It's the prized wicket of Chanderpaul, but what a tame dismissal for such a famously dogged batsman - driving loosely and spooning one to Moeen Ali at gully. That's Stokes's first wicket of the series.
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"That ball was hit hard and it still only went for three, so you can see what effect the rain overnight and today has had on the pitch."
WI 73-3
Big appeal from Stuart Broad when he raps Samuels on the pads, but no dice from the umpire - sliding down leg that one. Samuels has barely played a shot in anger today but he does get the final ball of the over through the infield - only for Chris Jordan, probably England's paciest outfielder, to haul it in just before the rope.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"You wondered how long it would take England to realise that two spin options on this pitch was needed. It has only taken 20 overs really. Broad is bowling a decent spell. It is going to be one of the weeks where the cricket is going to called attritional. I would rather they turned to Joe Root next. He got Chanderpaul's wicket in the last match."
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Cricketers and pop stars
Neil in Hexham: Yeovil, which can lay a part claim on Sir Ian Botham, was also home town to late 80's Indie band The Chesterfields.
Neil in Chester: Brian Close, Yorkshire and England captain, came from Leeds as did my favourite band of the 70's (somewhat tongue in cheek)... the infamous Grumbleweeds!
WI 70-3 (Samuels 12, Chanderpaul 1)
Moeen Ali hasn't quite got it right so far - he's just struggling to test the batsmen with a consistent line and length. There is good purchase off the wicket though - he gets one to spit off the track and beat Chanderpaul's tentative forward poke.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"They were playing the patience games and then Bravo just lost his patience. It was a good catch from Cook - any slip catch on this ground is going to be a good one because of how close they are standing."
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Jack Mendel: That sums up Darren Bravo in a nutshell. Beautiful cover driver.. comparable with Lara. Then dreadful waft outside off...
WI 67-3
Shiv Chanderpaul won't be overtaking Brian Lara in any hurry of course - more like a venerable old motor crawling past you when you're stuck in traffic than a boy racer screaming past you in the fast lane. He blocks out Stuart Broad's latest over.
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Cricketers and pop stars
Colin Stephenson: There is a couple from my home town, Warrington. John Crawley and Neil Fairbrother and Rick Astley and Jay from Five.
If 'Cricketers and Pop stars' isn't a reality TV show in the making, I don't know what is...
WI 67-3 (Moeen 3-0-12-0)
Mo' from Mo. Chanderpaul, who fell to spin in both innings in Antigua, gets going with a nudge past backward point.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"It was just angled across, it was a very non-descript ball and an even more non-descript shot. He faced an hour and half of Jimmy Anderson, with the ball swinging every where and left it alone and this was a non-descript ball from Stuart Broad and he's just stuck the bat out. There was one of the most pointless dives after taking the catch from Alastair Cook."
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WI 65-3
The redoubtable Shiv Chanderpaul is the new batsman.
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Bravo c Cook b Broad 35 (WI 65-3)
Darren Bravo was closing in on his first half-century against England, his bogey side. He won't get there though. Stuart Broad sends down a tempter outside off stump and Bravo, perhaps emboldened by having just driven the bowler for four, has a fiddle at it. Captain Cook pouches the catch at first slip.
WI 60-2 (Bravo 31, Samuels 7)
Moeen Ali, whose first over before lunch was a rather inauspicious return to Test-match tweakery, is thrown the cherry. He gets some appreciable turn off the pitch - that is what he will offer over someone like James Tredwell, at the expense perhaps of a little guile and experience. Bravo and Samuels continue to push the score at a slow-and-steady pace.
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Tom in Leicester: I think England are right to be stubborn by picking Jordan, he is an exciting talent Flintoff struggled early on in his England career before changing his action.
James in Sevenoaks: Good to see a sizeable crowd out there today after all the talk of the demise of test cricket outside of England and Australia.
WI 58-2
Ben Stokes is OK to play on. Hard as concrete-coated nails, that boy. Is he OK to bowl though - he could be needed before long. The first ball after drinks sees Darren Bravo smear Stuart Broad back down the ground, but he doesn't quite time it and it's reeled in before the rope.
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Liam: You so called journalists often refer to Jimmy Anderson as Burnley's finest (18:34). However, you seem to forget that two members of 90s pop sensation Chumbawumba are also from the town.
Can anyone think of any other cricketers who share their hometowns with famous pop-stars?
Drinks break
Drinks have been called while Ben Stokes receives treatment. It doesn't luck too bad, luckily. It seems to be his hip that's troubling him, actually.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"Stokes went for a slide in the pitch but there was no slide in the turf. This is Ben Stokes - the hardest man in the side by a country mile. People might remember Simon Jones doing the same thing in Australia and it ended his career. It was good to see the batsman not running the second run - it is good sportsmanship."
Ouch!
Ben Stokes has fallen awkwardly and it looks like he may have injured his knee. The physio is on. Let's hope it's not too serious...
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Ben Pathe: Has Marlon Samuels been getting coaching off Geoffrey Boycott? He's gone from hare to tortoise.
Mike Ball: Alan in London is right, Broad's bowling record over the last 18 months is good, not sure what all the hate is about?
WI 54-2 (Jordan 8-2-18-1)
Adil Rashid, clad in his neon yellow substitute's bib, makes himself useful by ensuring that the coolbox is properly stocked ahead of the drinks break. Got to keep busy, haven't you? Chris Jordan, the man whose head would probably have been on the block if Rashid had played, continues to toil away fruitlessly - a no-ball and a single from his latest set.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"I think on slow and low pitches you have to aim at the stumps and hope the batsman make a mistake or one keeps low. I played against Shannon Gabriel in England. He is a big brute of a man, he is huge. I am pretty sure one of his wickets at Lord's was me. I seem to remember he bowled me - I got out at the Pavilion end.
WI 52-2
Stuart Broad didn't bowl well this morning despite leaking relatively few runs - he ended up with more misleading figures than those cannily shot '10-week transformation' photos you see on gym billboards. Can he find a more challenging length this afternoon? Bravo continues his steady accumulation with two through backward point.
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Test Match Special on Twitter: Post lunch session with @Aggerscricket & @GeoffreyBoycott in full flow.
WI 50-2 (Bravo 24, Samuels 5)
Finally Chris Jordan manages to coax the somnolent Marlon Samuels out of his shell with a fuller delivery outside off that just shapes away - he draws a false shot from the batsman, but the edge trickles away through gully for four runs.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"I think we have to change the bowling. Try something different, we should give Stokes a bowl. For the batsman the key is whether they can be patient and hold their nerve."
WI 45-2
Darren Bravo's defence looks teak-tough as James Anderson gets the ball to swing back with a slightly fuller length - no way through yet for England. "Hang in there, lads!" chirps Joe Root. I can only echo his sentiments as we negotiate one of the less enthralling periods of this Test match.
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Tim: I've just had a Eurika moment.....how about bowling at the off stump....with the intention of actually hitting the stumps or at least drawing the batsmen forward. Might just work you know.
WI 44-2 (Bravo 22, Samuels 1)
Four men wait in the slips, their minds perhaps beginning to wander as Jordan struggles to beat the bat. Bravo plays out five dots and then milks a single into the off side.
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"England, if they are honest, will think they should have done far better in these conditions. After you get a delivery like Anderson's to Brathwaite the batsman will would have been thinking to themselves I won't be able to get a run out there but they have not made them play nearly enough. That brilliant early ball would have sent a shockwave through the West Indies dressing room. Not much to follow it up though. England are preying on the West Indies' patience."
WI 43-2 (Anderson 10-6-12-1)
Anderson is managing to extract a little more movement than Jordan, but he's going to have to target the stumps if he wants to draw Marlon Samuels out of hibernation mode. The Jamaican frustrates England with another shotless maiden.
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Alan in London: Over the last 18 months, Anderson and Broad have been England's best Test bowlers with almost identical records. Broad was also England's best bowler by far on the last Ashes tour. Ridiculous anyone's calling for him to be dropped.
Anthony Cocozza: Are Finn and Tremlett no longer considered good enough? Why? They are both better than Jordan and Broad.
WI 43-2
This is rather pedestrian fare so far from England's bowlers in conditions that should be offering them plenty of assistance. Chris Jordan runs in with plenty of huff and puff and hits the pitch hard, but he hasn't yet got the batsmen playing and missing as you might expect in such humidity. Samuels is off the mark with a dab into the leg side.
WI 41-2 (Bravo 20, Samuels 0)
Momentary confusion as Marlon Samuels holds one single bail aloft to signal to the umpire which guard he wants. The umpire doesn't get it. Samuels is in no hurry after lunch - he takes his tally of scoreless deliveries to 16 with four more dots.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"You want to create a certain amount of pressure and doubt, so you need to be getting at least four balls an over where the batsman is thinking I do not like this. When it is just one ball an over it's nice for the batsman. We could bowl better with the medium-fast bowlers we have. We could be creating more pressure. If you keep giving them problems, you give yourself more chance of getting them out."
WI 40-2 (Jordan 4-1-8-1)
Did the West Indies batsmen have a big lunch? An extra slice of spotted dick? They've started very sluggishly after the interval, with no runs off the bat in the first three overs. Luckily for them, Chris Jordan abets their efforts to get the scoreboard moving by slinging four byes down the leg side. Ugly.
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Ray in Swansea: When batsmen nick it, don't walk and say they didn't "feel it" everyone laughs. Smith's "wicket" and non-review just goes to show, they may actually be telling the truth!
WI 36-2
James Anderson got it swinging this morning like Peter Snow's Election Night Swingometer, if you'll permit me a topical metaphor. There's a bit of movement on offer for Burnley's finest after lunch too, and Darren Bravo plays safe - another maiden.
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WI 36-2 (Bravo 19, Samuels 0)
Chris Jordan had mixed fortunes before lunch - he missed out on a wicket when Gary Ballance dropped one at leg slip, then got his karmic payback a couple of balls later when Smith was erroneously given out caught behind.
No such drama in his first over after lunch though, as Samuels blocks out a maiden.
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Right, we're ready to go again. Jordan to Samuels...
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Come to think of it, it's been a memorable day for sporting forgetfulness. Earlier today, Ding Junhui missed out on a Crucible 147 after forgetting he was on a maximum. Then we saw Devon Smith appear to forget the availability of DRS when he was given out.
Somebody should remind David Luiz he's got a Champions League match against Barcelona this evening...
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That Devon Smith business was rather curious, wasn't it? In case you're just joining us, the West Indian opener was given out just caught behind before lunch - but he didn't hit it! So why didn't he review it? Did he forget about DRS? Did he decide that, with a Test average of 25, he just wasn't worth it? Or perhaps he has plans for Saturday and fancies a four-day finish. We may never know...
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Robert Pheby: If new technology aims to prevent howlers, when a batsman does not edge the ball, the umpires should recall him after replay.
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Thank you Stephan. For a moment there when the drizzle was coming down, it looked like Stephan wouldn't be able to bring you any actual cricket in his morning stint and I'd be awkwardly converted from first-drop to live-text opener, a la Jonathan Trott.
But here I am in my usual slot, and with an intriguing afternoon session in prospect. Can England build on those morning inroads, or will Marlon Samuels - possessor of a mighty fine record against England - lead a Windies fightback? We shall see...
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Right, with the players enjoying a brew and a biscuit, it's time for me to step aside for a little while. Here's James Gheerbrant.
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BBC Radio Test Match Special
On Test Match Special at the moment, there's another chance to listen to the excellent BBC Radio 5 live documentary James Anderson: The Wicket Man. If you've not heard it, do tune in. Mark Chapman interviewed Jimmy after every series over the past two years as he neared the England Test wickets record, which he broke in the last match.
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Alan Compton: One wicket that should never have been given doesn't change anything. Jordan is a club bowler. No control.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"It was a decent start for England, I do not think they have bowled great. You look at the pitch and it is doing a bit but not that much. Anderson, Broad, Jordan have swung it but not enough. If the West Indies bat well they could get 350-400. The West Indies are playing OK but England will have to bowl better. I do not think it is going to be easy to get 10 wickets on this wicket and you might need to bowl for dots and hope for a rash shot. You know their players, apart from Chanderpaul, are not occupy the crease types of players - they will play their shots."
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WI 36-2 after 14 overs
Not out batsmen: Bravo 19, Samuels 0
Bowling figures: Anderson 7-4-11-1, Broad 5-2-8-0, Jordan 2-0-8-1, Moeen 1-0-8-0
England won toss and chose to field
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When the players finally got out there, England just about managed to take advantage of the helpful conditions that were on offer. James Anderson has swung the ball around corners, producing an unplayable in-swinger to bowl Kraigg Brwathwaite, but some inconsistency and watchful Windies batting looked set to have the hosts at lunch only one down. However, a Devon Smith non-edge off Chris Jordan was given out and not reviewed, leaving West Indies 36-2 at the break.
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Just joining us? Wondering why lunch is being taken late and after only 15 overs? We were delayed by rain for the best part of two hours, with play not beginning until 16:45 BST.
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Rob: It seems that cheering when a wicket is taken is only acceptable if everyone knows that you're listening to the cricket through your headphones. Otherwise, judging by the looks I've just been given, it's totally unacceptable during your 8 year old son's judo lesson. Oops.
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James Cowe: Good comeback by Chris Jordan there after that dropped catch. That wicket wicket gives England the session.
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WI 36-2
Now we know why Devon Smith stood for a moment - he didn't hit it. More replays show that there was daylight between bat and ball. Why didn't he review it? Was he not sure? Did he forget that DRS was in play? Either way, look in the scorebook and it says he's out. With that, England have had the better of the hour-long morning session.
WI 36-2 (Jordan 2-0-8-1)
Smith stood for a little while, perhaps not believing what he had done. It was a very thin edge, the bat jamming down on the ground, while Buttler almost dropped the ball as he went to throw it up in celebration. Marlon Samuels the new man, with Moeen Ali sending down the final over before lunch.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"It was really good planning from England. Having put that leg slip in the batsman would have been thinking things were safe but the ball just tails away from him. Good planning and execution. England would just have been worrying there, 28-1 is not a massive score but the pitch is not doing massive amounts."
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Smith c Buttler b Jordan 15 (WI 28-2)
Gone. Devon Smith falls to Chris Jordan, two balls after being dropped at leg slip by Gary Ballance. Jordan's danger was swinging the ball back in to the left-hander, but Smith, who left the ball well, followed a wide one and got a thin edge through to wicketkeeper Jos Buttler. That's a big boost for England, who were in danger of not taking full advantage of the early help.
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Mark: Broad can produce a magic spell unfortunately they are all too few and far between.
David Hall: Stuart Broad once again bowls a wicketless opening spell and is withdrawn from the attack, when will he be dropped?
Jay: Broad gives Jordan some advice and Jordan sends one down the leg side. Sums up the state of affairs with English cricket.
WI 25-1 (13 overs)
Already we're closing in on lunch, with James Anderson looking likely to bowl right through this mini-session. Back over the wicket now, still swinging the ball across this pair of left-handers, who are looking increasingly comfortable. After Anderson rearranged Brathwaite's furniture, I bet the Windies would have bitten your arm off for being only one down at lunch.
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Ed Smith
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"The selection of Moeen Ali for James Tredwell was predictable. If Jos Buttler does come in at eight. then I am trying to think of a better batsman to come in at eight. Geoffrey might come up with a few."
WI 22-1 (Smith 12, Bravo 8)
Chris Jordan's staccato run-up is seen for the first time in the match, with the Sussex man shuffling his gold chain and sweat band in and producing in-swingers to this pair of left-handers. Radar not quite there yet, bit too leggy, but the full length is decent and the pace is high the high-80s. An in-ducker pins Smith, but an inside edge sees both the appeal rejected and any question of a review swiftly discarded. Smith finished the over by driving down the ground for four. Jordan getting it thereabouts, but not quite there.
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Ed Smith
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"We talk about West Indies cricket and that they play eccentric shots but they have been really well disciplined this morning in a situation that really suits the England bowlers."
WI 16-1 (Anderson 6-4-8-1)
A tempter from Anderson, wide and full to Bravo, swinging away in the direction of the four hippos in the slip cordon. Bravo lines it up, then decides that discretion is the better part of valour. More sunshine, the clouds are now fluffy and white, rather than grey. Chris Jordan wheels his arms like a man trying to take off as Anderson uses the crease, still round the wicket. A third successive maiden, with a change coming up.
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Tom Colocci: Some great armchair bowling coming up here: I reckon Broad is going for the glory ball too often and the batsmen are wise to it. He needs to set them up with more outswingers and use the inswinger as a surprise ball.
WI 16-1 (Smith 7, Bravo 8)
The sun is playing a game of hide and seek with itself. One Broad delivery is sent down in bright sunshine, the next in the sort of gloom you'd find in Blackpool in July. The stands are very sparsely populated, with those who are in attendance not exactly on the edge of their seats. One lady lets out a very long yawn. Still not great from Broad, sprayed on both sides of the wicket. Time for a change.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
Broad, Stokes and Jordan - none of them really swing the ball. Anderson is the only out-and-out swing bowler, that is why in these conditions I would like to have two spinners.
WI 16-1
We have something of a game of two ends at the moment. Anderson provides an omni-threat, while Broad isn't taking advantage of the early help. My word, that's some leave from Bravo, who withdraws his bat from another Anderson hooper and sees it miss off stump by a coat of varnish. Another Jimmy maiden, his third from five overs.
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Ross in Berkshire: With all the Negativity of England selection leading towards a safety with Butler at 8. If a Trott failure occurs in this test it could lean towards this XI for the 3rd Test! Mooen, Cook, Ballance, Bell, Root, Stokes, Butler, Rashid, Broad, Plunkett, Anderson. Giving us 4 seamers, 2-3 spinners and side that can bat down to at least 8!
WI 16-1 (Broad 4-1-8-0)
Too short from Stuart Broad, with Devon Smith swivelling on a pull shot that goes square for four. Inconsistent from Broad, who asks for short leg to be posted back to square leg. The batsman will be pleased to see that. Broad to get an early hook from the attack? England continue to chirp to the background noise of the off horn, while the sun does its best to burn off the clouds. Broad's length improves as the over progresses.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"They were standing close, they are now standing even closer. They are breathing down the batsman necks, they are standing that close. They will have to take some sharp catches."
Close!
WI 12-1
Every ball is an event for James Anderson at the moment, every sprint and hurl of the red cherry producing hooping deliveries of danger. Darren Bravo almost comes a cropper with an outside edge that falls just short of the diving Ben Stokes at fourth slip. Before that, with Anderson round the wicket, Bravo played a lovely cover drive for four. Plenty happening.
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WI 8-1 (Smith 3, Bravo 4)
Broad, a hint of movement away from the lefties, strains for a fuller length and is pushed down the ground for a couple by Smith. The breeze is strong enough to ruffle the shirt of the batsman, who is looking to leave the ball as much as possible. Good plan, with Broad now a little too wide. Not much atmosphere in Grenada, with the odd toot of a horn providing some noise. An England fielder, possibly Joe Root, tells them to aim for "15-3".
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
On Twitter: That ball was as good as it gets... 4 slips put in place .. Braithwaite expecting the Outs...
WI 6-1
Anderson, now in sunshine and with four slips waiting behind the tall figure of Darren Bravo. Away-swing from the leftie - play and miss, edge short of the slips, play and miss. "Send him the piano, see if he can play that." Short leg has been dispensed with, England clearly feeling that the the edge, rather than the bat-pad, is the more likely mode of dismissal. They're probably right, Anderson is getting this ball to sing like Pavarotti.
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Russell Tunstall: What a delivery from Jimmy Anderson great start England.
Matthew Warne: Jimmy Anderson that's a Bobby Dazzler!
Dukkhaboy: If you had 7 deliveries to sum up Jimmy Anderson the first 7 today might just do it.
WI 6-1
England are chirping as Stuart Broad whips the ball past Smith's outside edge. That fog remains, not only hovering over the ground, but also the dressing room of the Windies, who must feel that this session before lunch could be very difficult indeed.
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WI 6-1 (Anderson 2-1-4-1)
My word, the replays of that James Anderson delivery make it look even better, nigh-on unplayable. It started on a line of off stump or just outside, then hopped in, almost at 90 degrees to clatter into the leg peg. Not only does it move big, bit moves so, so late. Mind you, Brathwaite played it like a man with lead in his helmet, falling over to be cleaned up. Darren Bravo is the new man, with Anderson now swinging the ball across this pair of left-handers.
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"What a great ball, he has absolutely cleaned him up. What a ball after an over of gently bowling - that was brilliant. This is what I admire Anderson for most. Swing bowlers with the new ball can only swing it one way. He can swing it both ways and it is a serious skill. It is extraordinary really."
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Brathwaite b Anderson 1 (WI 2-1)
Bowled him! What a beauty from James Anderson, who does for Kraigg Brathwaite, neck and crop. After a previous over of away-swingers, Anderson produces a booming in-swinger that gets between bat and pad, destroying the timbers. Anderson doesn't need much encouragement, but in these conditions he could swing a satsuma round corners. Windies beware.
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Alfie Hinchliffe: Do other countries have this level of uncertainty about what their 1st XI Test side is?
WI 2-0
Stuart Broad to the left-handed Devon Smith, who is the first Grenadian to play a Test match in his home country. He's away with a single, with Gary Ballance then taking a very unusual position at short leg to Brathwaite, just around the corner, looking directly at the batsman's erm, backside. Swing for Broad too, who is picked off when he gets too straight for Brathwaite to get off the mark. An ethereal haze hangs over the ground, all a bit Wuthering Heights.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"There is a rendition of Jerusalem being sung, so the Barmy Army must be out here in force. This is one of those grounds where the fielders are going to have to get incredibly close to the stumps to get chances at slip."
WI 0-0
Early movement for Anderson, the ball shaping away from the right-handed Brathwaite, who gropes at a rozzer that fizzes past the outside edge of the bat. Very big hoop, actually, but no great pace. Edge... just short of Ian Bell at second slip. Anderson will be licking his lips as he starts with a maiden, there's plenty in the air for him. No zip, mind, so getting it to carry to the grabbers might be an issue.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"For the young lads who have never been before it is brilliant for them to be around the team but for Bairstow and Rashid it is pointless. These days you can fly players out easily - they should be allowed to go home and play for Yorkshire in the Championship rather than sat here. Jimmy Anderson flew home from Perth for the birth of his child and flew back two days later. It is not like the old days where you have to take a boat."
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Right then, believe it or not, we have cricketers out in the middle. James Anderson has the ball in hand and will be bowling to Kraigg Brathwaite. Three slips, a gully, a shirt leg and even some sunshine. The trumpeter plays Jerusalem as Anderson tears in...
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"If I was Mark Wood I would rather be here and be a part of the England set-up, being given the chance to show what I can do in the nets rather than not being here."
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Forget about how long we'll play, I've had it confirmed that there are 79 overs to be bowled today, so we've lost 11. There will be an hour-long session before lunch.
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No word on the playing hours, but I suspect we'll be able to play until at least 23:00 BST, perhaps even half an hour longer than that. We could be going long in to the night, so settle in.
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Daniel Reeves: I still wonder if Cook's the right captain if the number 11's biggest score in the last two years is better than the opener.
Tom Holmes: Get Root opening, push Moeen to 5, Stokes to 6 and Buttler to 7 and play a second spinner (Tredders or Rashid). Problem solved.
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The cover on the pitch has been completely removed, and there are two members of the groundstaff apologetically dragging a rope around the outfield. I'm hearing that we will start at 16:45 BST. Wonders never cease.
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David Grant: England couldn't take 20 wickets in Antigua so they've dropped a front-line spinner and replaced him with a part-timer.
David Moore: Is Stokes a shoe in? A major assumption in my opinion. Moeen is the established all-rounder.
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Update. Sheet has come off the pitch. We're dangerously close to having conditions suitable for Test cricket.
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"The groundstaff do not really know what to do. The umpires are not out there, people are starting to shout to get on with it and the covers seems to coming off again."
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The huge blue sheet that covered the square has been removed, only a smaller bit of plastic sitting on the pitch remains. We're only half an hour or so away from what was the scheduled lunch break. Surely we won't be having that?
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Vaughan: If Lyth and Rashid didn't get a look in today, when will they? What was the point in taking them? They and their county teams must be raging, what a waste!
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"This is where the ICC needs to get someone out there and asking what is going on. The public have no idea what is going on out there. I have been doing this for 15 years and the game is getting dafter and the audiences are becoming lesser because of it."
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Tony Cozier
BBC Test Match Special
"The umpires are now coming on to the field belatedly. I reckon they should get going soon. Just get that cover off and let's go. They are not moving the small cover, the umpires are walking off."
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The umpires are coming out to have a look, but Geoffrey Boycott is predicting an early lunch, rather than an imminent start. It is not raining, so I'm not sure why we are mired in inactivity. The calypso music continues to play, but that's the only action we have.
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Tim Hames: Any England Test team before with high aggregate top test scores 294, 226, 156, 235, 200, 120, 85, 35, 169, 108, 81?
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"10 minutes ago we were talking about crowds around the world disappearing and look at this. People have taken the day off work, England fans have taken time off work and come out here and there is nothing going on."
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Matt Warwick: Buttler/Ali/Stokes are all fine. I can understand giving Trott a go. But how is Jordan the third best seamer in the country? I just don't get it.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"There is no rain and no players. What an earth is going on down there? People are sat out. Wimbledon would have had the covers off now and the players playing."
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Tony Cozier
BBC Test Match Special
"It's not raining. They could be playing now."
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Ben Thapa: I would bat Buttler 8: he's the kind of striker who can attack from anywhere. Demoting Stokes to 8 last summer was a disaster.
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I'm enjoying this debate on he make-up of the England team (admittedly, it's a debate we have at the start of every Test match, but there seems to be more variables here). Is the selection of Stokes and Moeen really causing consternation? Surely the identity of the openers and the third seamer are more under question?
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Steve: I wish a reporter would ask Moores and Cook exactly under what conditions would they play Lyth or Rashid?
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Rob, you've thrown a curveball there. So is the issue that Stokes and Moeen do not form England's best attack? Moeen is the number one spinner, no? If you wanted a batting all-rounder who acts as the fifth bowler, is Stokes not the man?
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Rob Meech: Buttler should bat seven to allow an extra bowler. That's the issue; not him batting below Stokes and Moeen.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"I'd have taken the risk with Trott, but I'm not sure how his technique can be successful against the new ball when he's walking about the crease. He's got to be still at the crease or he'll keep snicking off. I don't see how he will be opening the batting when Australia roll into town. England have gambled on Trott but if it doesn't work, they could be in a quandary."
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David Jackson: We have the batsmen but either don't play them or don't know their best place in the batting line-up. A much worse problem is our two best fast bowlers aren't getting any younger and I cannot remember the last time they took the opposition apart, let alone in tandem. None of our up-and-coming fast bowlers of the last couple of years look like they will be world beaters and with the Ashes just round the corner I find that much more worrying than whatever batting woes we are perceived to have.
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Tony Cozier
BBC Test Match Special
"There was a time when England would come to the West Indies and get beaten by Barbados over and over again."
Geoffrey Boycott replies: "Not when I was playing, they didn't."
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Hasan Hussein: Belting sunshine across the UK and we have a rain delay in the Caribbean. In the garden with the suncream ready.
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I'm interested to see this criticism of Buttler being down to bat at eight. Personally, that's where I would have have him. Moeen and Stokes both have Test hundreds and have batted at six for most of their short careers. Ultimately, though, it probably doesn't really matter which order those three bat in.
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Gabriel: Buttler set to bat at 8. Do England trust him yet in Tests?
Simon: So Butler to bat at 8 in an ultra conservative "get a draw at least" line up. Why bother taking Lyth/Rashid?
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There's calypso music being played in Grenada, which isn't really in keeping with the mood at the ground. The groundstaff hover, ready to remove the covers and get us going should the rain relent.
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The players had emerged from the pavilion, pristine in white like an army of ice-cream men. The field was set, James Anderson had the ball, Kraigg Brathwaite had taken strike. And then, the rain returned and the players sprinted for cover.
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You won't believe this...
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"The jury is out on Chris Jordan as a bowler for me. He lacks consistency, he bowls a lot of balls down the leg side."
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"They keep lengthening the batting order. I reckon Cook and Moores have got an eye on what's round the corner with the Ashes, because they didn't bat well last time. They don't think about taking 20 wickets. Rashid's no Shane Warne, but he offers something that England haven't got."
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Ed Smith
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"Sometimes when you're trying to force a victory you want a bowler who can offer something different. Liam Plunkett could have come in and bowled bouncers. With Moeen, Buttler and Stokes in the lower order, bowlers who can bat is not uppermost in my mind."
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I'll be interested to see if the ball swings under these leaden skies. If it does, then James Anderson will be a very interested man - he's got more Test wickets than Sir Ian Botham, you know. I just wonder if we have the conditions for the Windies to be bowled out cheaply.
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BBC Weather's Laura Gilchrist: Rain today should eventually clear although may be slow to do so, then the next couple of days look much improved with more sunshine, although afternoon showers can't be ruled out. It will be breezy, and with high temperatures around 27 or 28C.
Line-ups
West Indies XI: Devon Smith, Kraigg Brathwaite, Darren Bravo, Marlon Samuels, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Jermaine Blackwood, Denesh Ramdin (capt & wk), Jason Holder, Kemar Roach, Devendra Bishoo, Shannon Gabriel.
England XI: Alastair Cook (capt), Jonathan Trott, Gary Ballance, Ian Bell, Joe Root, Ben Stokes, Moeen Ali, Jos Buttler (wk), Chris Jordan, Stuart Broad, James Anderson.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"Experience tells me this wicket will spin. Spin will play a massive part in this game as it goes on. A lot comes down to the fact that Alastair Cook's an opening batsman, Jonathan Trott's not in good nick, there's moisture in the air."
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"West Indies' best chance to win this game is probably to bat first, put up a good score, and then with Bishoo in their ranks...The danger is that they are fragile and if Anderson swings it this morning, they could easily be bowled out quite cheaply."
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James Gutteridge: Taylor being out could be the match winning factor for England, probably the only Windies bowler who looked really dangerous.
Charlie Rhodes: Standard conservative England selection. Boring! I don't know why I'm still surprised!
William Haggerty: Will never cease to be disappointed in England's team selection.
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I suspect that Alastair Cook will be very happy heading back to the dressing room, not only to have use of some overhead help, but also knowing that he hasn't got to open the batting in some tricky conditions. His pace attack, who toiled in that draw only four days ago, probably aren't quite so happy. What do you make of it all? Text, tweet and email...
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West Indies captain Denesh Ramdin: "We would have done the same with the rain around and the moisture. Two changes: Shannon Gabriel comes in for Jerome Taylor and Devendra Bishoo for Sulieman Benn. Jerome Taylor has a shoulder injury, it's a big blow as he's one of our best bowlers, but Gabriel will try and hustle the England batsmen. Bishoo's leg spin is fantastic and he can bowl long spells so hopefully he will get some purchase."
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England captain Alastair Cook: "It's been a decision playing on our minds. There's obviously quite a bit of moisture in the wicket, so we think it warrants a bowl. James Tredwell was fit, but Moeen takes wickets at 28 and deserves to come back and play. It's a tough call on Tredders, who never lets anyone down. The guys are raring to go."
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Perhaps the biggest headline from the toss is from the West Indies camp, with the home side without the injured pacer Jerome Taylor. Shannon Gabriel takes his place. We already knew that Devandra Bishoo was coming in for fellow spinner Sulieman Benn.
England win the toss and field
"Heads is the call," says Mike Atherton, with a head peering upwards to the delight of Alastair Cook. England will field first, with Cook saying the moisture in the air has persuaded him to take the cherry first up. Denesh Ramdin would have done the same. Moeen Ali comes in for James Tredwell, so no debut for Adil Rashid.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"The West Indies are practising slip catches, which tells me they'll win the toss and bowl."
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"Chris Jordan is going through his warm-up, bowling a few looseners. He wouldn't be doing that if he wasn't playing, would he? I think he's playing."
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"If you go with three seamers and two spinners, I think you have to bat first and put the the runs on the board. You have to give your spinners a chance. The West Indian seamers were inconsistent so you don't have much to worry about anyway."
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Right then, action. The skippers are heading out, Alastair Cook wearing his navy blue blazer over his whites. I'm ignorant to the etiquette of blazer-wearing, but are there any other circumstances when you would wear a clue blazer over a white outfit? Do players still don the blazers at lunchtime?
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While we're waiting for the start, let me point you in the direction of a moving story of a truly remarkable young man. Derbyshire wicketkeeper Tom Poynton lost his father in a car crash last year. Tom, now 25, was in the passenger seat and suffered leg injuries that nearly ended his career. He's been talking to BBC Sport's Sam Sheringham about coping with loss, returning to cricket and why he wants to help other young cricketers deal with adversity and make plans for life after cricket.
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Chris in London: My friend Foxy and I unfortunately found ourselves at the CWC Eng v Afg match at the SCG in March. During the persistent rain delays we turned to a trusty game of Gin Rummy in the pavillion. Judging by the way some members of the Barmy Army were escorted off the premises later that night, I think they'd had a little too much Gin, and not enough Rummie.
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Excellent stuff on TMS, Jonathan Agnew recounting the story of Curtly Ambrose's mum, who used to ring a bell every time that Curtly took a Test wicket. Imagine how popular she was with the neighbours when the Windies were away in New Zealand?
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James: Why are there no calls for Root to open again? Brought up doing it at Yorkshire and his technique had improved dramatically since moving down the order. It will also allow Trott to move to 3 and Ballance down to 5.
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"England's middle-lower order is stiff with batting, whichever line-up they pick. They've got Stokes, Buttler, probably Moeen, Jordan or Rashid at nine, and Broad at ten. Although if you wanted to be cruel you could say Broad is batting a bit like a number ten at the moment."
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Now then, news. The sun is out and the umpires are having a chinwag. The toss will be at 15:40 BST, with play beginning at 16:00. We've been here before, so let's not get those hopes too high just yet.
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Marc: At the Mighty Milton Cricket Club, once home to Andy Bichel, we have created a grand old game for such occasions....its like indoor tennis, but with cricket bats and the good old leather ball, coffins and bags down the middle as the "net" 4 on each side and away you go, volleys only, and score doesn't matter. "Mind the Windows Tino" does apply!
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"Two years ago when England were in New Zealand, Brendon McCullum gave a press conference where he said Alastair Cook was the closest thing to Don Bradman. Cook hasn't scored a run since. It's the greatest piece of reverse psychology I've ever seen."
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Duncan Saunders: Tredwell dropped? After taking 4 wickets in the last test? Scandalous considering this runway will spin.
Andrew Dennett: Definitely don't agree with dropping Tredders! Ali for Trott improves the batting and wouldn't weaken the bowling options.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"I'm pretty sure that England will bowl in these conditions if they win the toss. But for Trott and Cook, with the form they're in, the last thing they want is this delay."
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Clearly, spectators should always be ready for rain. Umbrella, waterproof, cloth to dry your seat when you return.
I once persuaded my girlfriend to come to watch a Test match with me. It rained all day. TV cameras picked me up trying to console her, explaining why it was a good thing that we'd spent the day at an empty cricket ground watching the rain fall.
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An ex-pro, who shall remain anonymous for his own protection, once told me that "players love rain", the reason being that they like the time to rest and indulge in some dressing-room banter. What is the best way to pass the time, for both players and spectators, when it's raining? Hit the bar? Play cards? Sleep?
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"The fourth umpire is cowering under his umbrella. One of the groundsmen has got his trawlerman's hood up."
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"I think I'd look to bowl first. There is a bit of moisture around. When you're a captain and opening batsman as well, there's always a bit of self-preservation."
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Raining again, covers back on. I give up.
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If they do manage to flick the coin at 15:25, then play will begin at 15:45. Stick with me, I promise this hokey cokey won't last all day.
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Movement. Alastair Cook has his whites on and is in the middle, pressing down on the pitch like a man checking on the state of his lawn. The toss is scheduled for 15:25 BST. However, it's trying to rain again. Quite frankly, we haven't got a clue what's going on.
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Mike Bell in Ashford: Re Kevin Downey (14.43). The answer to "I wonder what Test cricket would be like if innings were restricted to one hundred overs per side and a new ball every fifty overs?" is simple. It wouldn't be Test cricket.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"I think we'd have seen a cap presentation if Rashid was playing. At the moment, I think it's just the one change - Ali for Tredwell."
Graeme Swann adds: "Peter Moores gave Chris Jordan a hug. Was it a hug to say sorry, or to say well done? We don't know."
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Hello there, sunshine. The ground is slowly being bathed in the good stuff. Surely it can't be too long before they drag the players away from the card school to toss the coin?
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I, Rob: The only thing Cook's improved at in the last 2 years is giving away his wicket. It used to take a crowbar to get him out.
Jay: Can I get my hands on the data processor that Cook has used to claim he has improved? I'd love to prove a thing or two to my boss.
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Moeen Ali is heaving a medicine ball-type device into the ground, needing both arms to lift it and slam it into the turf. He looks like a man who is playing in this match.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"You don't want to get to the summer having not had a look at Rashid. You might need two spinners during the Ashes. This is an opportunity to look at Rashid slightly under the radar. He has the ability to bowl one or two match-winning spells."
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Now, is it just clearing a little? A hint of sunshine, covers moved to one side, umpires out on the middle. The players are back out too. Live text experience has taught me to avoid providing a weather forecast, so I'll stick to what I can see. It's brighter than it was, they'd be playing if it was a Saturday club game. Get 'em out there.
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Louis Parry: Lyth has to be given the chance as does Rashid: brilliant seasons last year, too scared to pick form over experience.
Richard Oelmann: Trott is a top middle order batsman, but not an opener. We have established openers, so he should be fighting for the 3-4 slot.
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There's a huge blue sheet covering the entire square, the tarpaulin now has puddles on it that are growing with every drop. There's not much sign of any fans inside the ground. "Come on, we'll go to the Caribbean. Watch some cricket in the sunshine, it'll be lovely."
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"I like Jonathan Trott but he's not an opener. His record shows that, he doesn't like it and the selectors have put him in a difficult position. Maybe Gary Ballance should open and Trotty can go in at three. It would be harsh on Ballance, but might be a better alternative."
'I've improved' - Cook
Cook has not hit a Test century since plundering 130 against New Zealand at Headingley in 2013 - Manchester United have had three different managers since then.
He does, however, believe he is getting better as a batsman and has been studying his technique in an effort to regain his form.
"I did have a look back in early February and watched a little a bit and it has changed quite a lot," he said. "It's evolutionary, if you tried to go back to exactly what you did it would probably be really unnatural.
"You're always constantly trying to tinker with technique. I'd like to think my game has improved over time, I definitely believe it has, it's just different."
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If you're Alastair Cook, what do you do if you call correctly? Bat first on a pitch likely to be good for batting, or bowl in what could be the best overhead conditions of the entire match?
Maybe try to lose the toss? If it transpires that England bat first, then the skipper will once again be under the microscope.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"You need spin options because it's not going to be wet and muggy for five days - this wicket is going to turn. You need two spinners and I think the right option is to look at Adil Rashid."
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"England will wait until the last moment to announce their XI. The rain will spice up the pitch, which could mean they stick with four seamers. They might have announced a 12, waiting until they got here to name the XI. It might be a couple of hours before we find out."
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"It's steady, rather persistent drizzle. At the moment the covers are on. I'd imagine that once it stops, it shouldn't take too long before we have some cricket. We know the West Indies have dropped Sulieman Benn and brought in Devendra Bishoo - we think that will be the only change."
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BBC Radio Test Match Special
The steel drums tell us that Test Match Special is on the air, with Jonathan Agnew wishing us all a good morning. Good morning to you, Aggers.
You can listen to TMS on 5 live sports extra, on Radio 4 longwave, here online and via the BBC Sport and BBC Radio apps.
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Graeme Love: Negative selection from England. Australia wouldn't keep with Cook, Trott, Broad if they weren't consistently performing. The team should be Mooen, Lyth, Ballance, Bell, Root, Stokes, Buttler, Jordan, Woakes, Rashid, Anderson.
Turtle Crew: Why is no one talking about Moeen opening, Trott for me is too early for him. Moeen opening keep Tredwell in...nice balance, attacking side.
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Now, here's some fun. If leggie Adil Rashid does make his Test debut, he will become the 666th man to don an England Test cap. I'm told that the next England debutant will be given the option of avoiding wearing 666 on his shirt for the rest of his Test career, simply skipping on to 667.
I wonder what Rashid (or whoever it turns out to be) will do.
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Kevin Downey: Is there anything worse in cricket than seeing a side, comprehensively beaten over five days, celebrating madly after gaining a draw, while the side that deserved to win trudges off the field as though they have lost. I agree that draws can be exciting but I feel cricket would be morally better without them and I wouldn't have to keep explaining to people who keep saying how can it be a draw. I wonder what Test cricket would be like if innings were restricted to one hundred overs per side and a new ball every fifty overs?
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Hmmm, this isn't good news. Proper rain in Grenada now, enough for umbrellas to go up and the players to scuttle off for a brew. Also, I've now heard a rumour that Adil Rashid will be the man to replace Tredwell. Frankly, we won't know what's going on until the skippers come out for a flick.
Get involved
While we wait, some housekeeping. As always, you can get in touch using the hashtag #bbccricket, by texting 81111 or by emailing tms@bbc.co.uk.
What do you make of England's problems at the top of the order? Moeen or Tredders? Rashid too? Also, do you bat or bowl if you win the toss? The deck is probably good for batting, but the overheads suggest a day for the swingers.
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Right, we can confirm that the toss is delayed. Grenada is covered in grey cloud, some hazy mist hangs over a pretty empty stadium. However, the weather isn't preventing the players from being out there warming up. The start isn't delayed... yet.
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Former England captain Michael Vaughan: Light drizzle in Grenada.... Looks like Ali in for Tredwell the only change.... Feels like a swinging day.
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One more pressing question to answer is 'will we start on time?'. There's a touch of rain in Grenada, the covers have been on. We may have a slight delay.
Chat from the ground is that Moeen Ali will indeed return to the England team after the side strain that ruled him out of the first Test. James Tredwell looks to be the man missing out.
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The one whopping great quandary facing captain Alastair Cook is his own form and the identity of his opening partner. Both he and Jonathan Trott need runs.
Also, how can England take 20 wickets on pitches that seem to age better than Helen Mirren? The focus seems to be coming on the spin bowling. Moeen Ali in for James Tredwell? Space for Adil Rashid?
And what about the pace bowlers? Anderson's record aside, why didn't they get as much joy as the Windies attack?
All this, with only four Tests to get it right before the Ashes begins.
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Which brings us to the England cricket team, who, if we're honest, were probably pleased to have a distraction from the questions thrown up in the drawn first Test with West Indies.
That came in the rather giant shape of a new England Test wickets record for James Anderson (who will probably tell you that closing in on the record was a distraction, but that is getting away from the point).
Much of the chat since that stalemate in Antigua has been heaping deserved praise on the Burnley Express. But, with that out of the way, England have nowhere to hide in the second Test in Grenada.
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Fergie was the master. A poor performance, a defeat? Create a distraction.
The ref wasn't fit enough, the kit was the wrong colour, the opposition manager refused a cuddle, our dressing room smelt funny.
Anything to take focus away from the fact that things haven't gone to plan.
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Distractions. Pretty much every sportsman who has ever had a microphone shoved under his nose will tell you that they are unwelcome. There are times, though, when they are quite handy.