I think that brings you right up up to speed, meaning I have nothing more to say on this second day of the second Test. Once more, we'll start a little early on Thursday, at 14:45 BST. The Grenada weather, however, may have other ideas.
"I would not have brought Stuart Broad on the tour. You are under less pressure and scrutiny playing for your county and he could have got on figuring out his rhythm. His poor spells here are noticed because this is a Test match. I think you are better off with Plunkett, we cannot keep on going with four similar-paced bowlers."
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Away from the action on the pitch, it was a day for stories connected to the England team. Yorkshire's request for spinner Adil Rashid to return to England was rejected, while Chris Woakes has been ruled out for six weeks after knee surgery. Yet more strain on a thin England pace attack.
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David Hall: Have to be looking at getting 500 plus by lunch on day 4 and winning by an innings here, big game for England now.
"Tomorrow it is help yourself and I think they will bat all day. England could be smart get around a lead of 80 and then try and bowl them out because you know their players will play a few shots. However, Cook does not like to take risks. Perhaps if England want to win they have to try something different."
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Cook needed some fortune, dropped at short leg off the leg-spin of Bishoo, but he and Trott remained as the light began to fade. In the end, their stand was pushed to 74, with the chance to register some big score still alive for tomorrow.
"It was a very good pitch for Cook and Trott. It is flat and slow and it doesn't bounce much. Cook played and missed around five times, Trott twice but sometimes you get a bit of luck. To be honest, the West Indies attack is not as good as a couple of the counties back at home. That is not Trott and Cook's fault. It is good for them and for England."
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And then, the tension. An England opening pair desperate for runs, Alastair Cook and Jonathan Trott feeling their way with the odd alarm. Cook, in particular, provided moments of concern outside off stump, but England's new-look first-wicket duo warmed to their task in the evening sunshine.
"For the first time we saw a really good spell from Stuart Broad. He bowled line and length and I am glad he got wickets. I do not think he will ever get over that surgery, but he could get back to his best."
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It was the final pair that frustrated England, Devandra Bishoo and Shannon Gabriel adding 52 entertaining runs. England became ragged, the Windies edged towards 300. In the end, Bishoo, who had shown the elegance of a Brian Lara, couldn't resist a swipe at Moeen Ali. All done for 299.
"England are in a very good position. Once Samuels got his hundred he did exactly what he did after he got 50. He just has a great swipe at it rather than trying to get another 30 or 40 runs. The tailenders were the entertaining bit, playing shots with straight and lofted drives."
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But Samuels' ton sparked a rash shot, which in turn began some good England bowling and a Windies slide. Stuart Broad got on one of his mini-rolls and his three wickets left the home side 247-9. England very happy.
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Once again, we have been frustrated by the weather, with long delays both before play and around lunch. That served to make Marlon Samuels to wait for a seventh Test hundred, which came after nearly 21 hours in the 90s.
Close of play
Eng 74-0
That will indeed be your lot, the end of a very good day for England. In fact, the only thing I can think of that hasn't gone to plan was that last-wicket stand between Bishoo and Gabriel. Either side, the tourists took regular wickets and then made an excellent start to their innings. At 74-0, they trail by 225 runs.
Bad light stops play
Eng 74-0
Umpires Oxenford and Davis decide it's too dark and the players march off. Officially, bad light has stopped play, but light rarely improves at this time of night, so I'm suspecting that will also be the close. At 74-0, Alastair Cook and Jonathan Trott will be two very happy men.
Eng 74-0 (225 behind)
The lightmeter comes out again, showing a reading that fluctuates between 7.8 and 7.9, whatever that means. Bruce Oxenford decides that we can continue, marching to square leg to allow Samuels to tempt Cook outside the off stump. Late in the day, we're rattling through the overs like never before, with a fourth catcher coming in to join the England skipper. One more over ticked down. Is that it?
Eng 74-0 (Cook 37, Trott 32)
Alastair Cook is in the ear of the umpire, telling him that the light was this bad when the players went off last night. The skipper is politely told that we remain on because the spinners are bowling. Why would England want to go off when Trott is hitting Bishoo's half-volleys for four? Maybe it's the light, but Trott then fails to pick a googly, leaving one that spins back sharply. Maybe that will have the umpires reconsidering...
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Jonny Brook: Is your website broken guys? It shows the runs scored, but you've clearly forgotten to keep us up to date with wickets fallen.
Eng 70-0 (24 overs)
With the spinners on, there's no reason for the light to intervene. It's hardly dangerous, so we might get all of the six overs that remain in the day. As a group of children fly a kite into the sunset on the hills surrounding the ground, Samuels, the off-spinner, comes round the wicket to Cook, with three catchers waiting. Pushed back. It's very dark out there. If the Windies wanted to get off, they'd loosen one of the quicks.
"Bishoo should have a nice good sleep tonight because he is going to have a lot of bowling to do tomorrow and probably the day after."
Eng 69-0 (Cook 37, Trott 27)
Yep, though Cook has had his problems against Bishoo, I'm certain he'd rather be facing spin at this time, rather than the pace bowlers probing his off-stump region. Bishoo drags down a long hop and is pulled for four, with this opening stand extending to 69.
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Paddy: Just over an hour left of my 23rd birthday. Best present of all would be for Cookie to be there at the close, ready to go big tomorrow.
Eng 65-0 (234 behind)
Marlon Samuels isn't in a rush, coming in to the attack for the first time, delivering the ball from the last bit of sunshine that lingers on the pitch. He walks in. just about turning his arm to deliver the nut. There's a certain element of going through the motions, to which this England opening pair will be delighted.
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Tom Radford: Oh look, a leg-spinner causing problems. Shame we don't have one of them. What's that? We do and are using him as a waiter?
Football Fragmento: Bishoo has looked useful. Shame England couldn't have tried Rashid as he might have gone well too.
Eng 65-0 (Cook 33, Trott 27)
Bishoo to whir through an over, whipping down his leg-breaks in the blink of an eye. A tidy maiden to Alastair Cook, a relief for the skipper, who has struggled against the leggy of late. We see the lightmeter for the first time today. It might not be long...
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England's Worst XI
Tom in Oxford: Presumably Hick and Ramps at 3 and 4? The pain still lingers.
Mike in Exeter: Paul Downton! My nomination for so many reasons. How somebody so average ever succeeds is beyond me, who were the selectors then?
Rob in Sunbury: Can I nominate John Emburey to captain the side as he got 60+ caps. Never quite understood why. Ashley Giles vice captain.
Eng 65-0 (234 behind)
The tall, athletic figure of Jason Holder breathes hard as he walks back to his mark under skies that remain blue. Jonathan Trott blinks in as much light as possible, then whips a leggy ball for a couple. A half-controlled edge then flies past third slip for four. England creeping along, nudging towards the close. It might not be long, depending on the light. In theory, there's nine overs to go.
"I've not seen Alastair Cook hit it over midwicket that often but West Indies have a deep midwicket for him."
Close!
Eng 57-0
Another chance? Another let-off for Cook? Hard to say, because it might have been a bump-ball. If it didn't bounce, then it flashed past slip, with Devon Smith only getting a thumb on it. Bishoo was again the bowler, a full ball being jammed down on by the England captain. Replays make it hard to tell if that was a bump ball or not. If it wasn't, that's two lives for the skipper.
Eng 53-0 (Cook 29, Trott 19)
England's new-look opening partnership has its first fifty stand, brought up by Jonathan Trott tickling Jason Holder fine for four. There is applause from a topless man who looks like he's had a bit too much sun. The whole ground is now covered in shadow are we are approaching the time when last night it became too dark for play.
Cook dropped on 27
Eng 47-0
Now then, has Alastair Cook just had the bit of luck he needs? He's put down at short leg in quite innocuous circumstances. Devandra Bishoo the bowler, Cook turns a full ball straight to Jermaine Blackwood, who doesn't react and sees it hit his ankle. I'm put in mind of Ravi Jadeja dropping Cook in the slips at Southampton last summer, a drop that might have saved Cook's job. Another bit of intrigue to this fascinating watch of two players searching for success.
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Mandip in Surrey: Neil Fairbrother has to be in the worst test XI. Cracking ODI player, but only played 10 tests and averaged a paltry 15.64.
Eng 45-0 (Cook 27, Trott 13)
The shadows are carrying out a two-pronged attack on the pitch, one from behind bowler Jason Holder, one from the square leg direction of leftie Cook. When Holder drops short, Cook unfurls out one his trademark pull shots, taking four straight of mid-wicket. Whisper it quietly, but...
"There has just been a little lack of consistency from all of the bowlers in this Test match so far."
Eng 40-0 (15 overs)
Bishoo again has a little trouble drawing Trott forward, with the Warwickshire man looking to slide into the leg side. Now then, this is more like it. Full, bit of drift, Trott playing across it to be hit on the front pad. Big appeal, but turned down, probably quite rightly because it looked leggy. Still, better from Bishoo.
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Nick in Esher: Windies aren't bowling particularly well. Cooky and Trotty aren't having to play many. Nice way to ease themselves towards a pair of double centuries.
Jon: C'mon boys! Slow and steady, don't worry about the rate, just graft it out and bring that confidence back!
Eng 40-0 (259 behind)
The shadows creep a little further, the horns honk a little softer as Cook leans over his bat and waits for Holder. When he taps the ground, pictures taken by the stump cam shake, as if Grenada is being hit by a mini-earthquake. Cook, now with much more certainty around his off stump, watches a maiden.
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Former England all-rounder Andrew Flintoff: Last rant. 25 test hundreds !! 25 test hundreds !! He must be terrible at playing the full ball or when it moves away. #cook
Eng 40-0 (Cook 22, Trott 13)
Indeed it will be the leg-breaks of Devendra Bishoo, to be whipped down in the company of a short leg and slip. Short of stature and on length, Bishoo finally gets it right with the fifth ball, landing a loopy leg-break on Trott's off stump. No great turn, no great threat.
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England's Worst XI
Gary Dear: Can I nominate Chris Read for the worst XI? A very good county player but was woeful in the tests if memory serves.
Azizipeasie: David Capel gets the all rounder slot I should think.
Andy Plowright: Ian Salisbury as spinner. 20 wickets in 15 Tests.
Eng 38-0 (261 behind)
Alastair Cook sticks two fingers up at the umpire, not as an insult, but to check his guard as Holder switches the angle to round the wicket. The shadows lengthen, Cook casting his towards point. One from the over, the appearance of some helmets from the dressing room suggesting that we may be about to get some spin.
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Tez: Jerome Taylor not playing feels a lot like when McGrath was ruled out of the 2nd Ashes test in 2005. Just the luck we needed.
Jon Dunn: If Trott scratches his way to a couple of 30s in the remaining Tests, do we suddenly deem him ready to face Aus & the Mitchs'?
Eng 37-0 (Cook 21, Trott 11)
The players took drinks, with Kemar Roach returning with one of the worst deliveries you will see in Test cricket. A full toss, so wide wide can only just about reach it to take four through the covers. With that, he passes Alec Stewart's total of 8,463 runs to go second on England's all-time list. Only his mentor Graham Gooch is ahead on 8,900. Will Cook get the same fanfare as James Anderson?
"The captain should get some control with Holder. I thought he bowled just a bit too wide in Antigua. He is the first West Indian bowler I have seen get a bit of swing so there is a bit of hope out there for him."
Eng 31-0 (268 behind)
I was asked earlier on about who would make it in to England's Worst XI if it was made of players who had at least 10 caps. I struggled. The first bowling change sees Jason Holder come on for Shannon Gabriel, wit the tall all-rounder immediately exploring Trott's off stump, occasionally getting too wide. The light is good, bright sunshine, but I'm hearing rumours that it may only last for another 40 minutes or so.
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Rick Chapman: Back to the good old days of dreading pressing refresh on my browser - only this time it's a rather fancy App.
John Higgins: I'd happily put up with tedious rain and every match drawn if Cook and Trott managed to rediscover their mojo.
Eng 31-0 (Cook 15, Trott 11)
Kemar Roach, shorter than your average fast bowler, scurries in to Alastair Cook, a gold chain around his neck leading the way. Cook has located his off stump and leaving anything that doesn't threaten, which turns out to be plenty of the over. When Roach is too short, Cook toe-ends a pull for a couple to earn whistles from the sparse crowd.
"It was a surprise to everyone when Taylor was deemed unfit for the Test. No-one is sure if he will be fit for Barbados."
Eng 29-0 (270 behind)
This should be a good duel, the speedy Gabriel against Trott, a man perceived to have some problems against the very quickest. No need to play as Gabriel hangs it outside off stump, then a quick bumper is ducked. Well played. When Gabriel gets too full, Trott takes a couple through the covers. In the crowd, some young fun-seekers are dressed as characters from Baywatch. Travelling fans? Backpackers? Is there an England Test match anywhere in the world that doesn't have a group in fancy dress?
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Matt Hatcher: Cook and Trott, two of the most criticised and scrutinised batsman for England. Prove a few wrong boys and stick it to them.
Robert Boyce: Very impressed with Gabriel on this "slow" wicket, has he bowled less than 90mph yet!?
Eng 26-0 (run-rate 3.71)
Finally, Cook looks like a man warming to his task, lining up Roach well, watching the ball go through to the keeper. Collar up, backside pointing to the square leg umpire, Cook give the ground beneath him a good whack with the bat, then punches the ball back down the pitch to the bowler. In the stands, horns horn, bells bell, all while England continue their steady build.
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Richard Kent in Birmingham: Come on England! We need Alastair to get Cooking, Jonathan to get out of a bad Trott, Gary to give the top order some Ballance, Bell to get ringing, Joe to take Root, Ben to make sure he Stokes the fire in the middle order, Buttler to serve up something special, Stuart to play some Broad strokes, Chris to cross the Jordan and attack the other side, Mo to start Mowing over midwicket, and Jimmy to add some 'Andy runs at the end. Come on England - 500 runs at least!
Eng 26-0 (Cook 13, Trott 9)
There's also a shadow being cast by the stand at deep square leg as Cook takes strike to the pacey Gabriel, slowly creeping across the ground, engulfing the man who lurks on the hook. Cook continues to hop around, a man wrestling with himself, almost inventing a way to bat. "I used to be able to do this". Geoffrey Boycott once told me there are three decisions to make as a batsman. Play or leave? Attack or defend? Forward or back? Cook is like a man with about 33 other questions on his mind. Did I lock the back door? When is my car tax due? Do I really have to go to my wife's friend's wedding? Ultimately, though, he is surviving.
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Ben Lenyk: Couple of 50s for Cookie and Trott needed here. Confidence going in to the Ashes is a must.
Everything Sport: Come on Cook I have £50 on a century for you today!
Eng 25-0 (274 behind)
Some vintage Jonny Trotter sees him gobble up a leg-stump half-volley, taking four through mid-wicket. When Roach gets the line right, Trott is groping outside the off-stump once more. In fact, both of these batsmen are partial to a grope. It's a gropeathon. In the best weather of the Test so far, rare shadows are being cast by all 15 men on the field. It's a lovely evening in Grenada.
"Cook has just got to hang around in there. He did not get any runs for the MCC or in the first Test but it may all slot into place if he can just hang in."
Eng 20-0 (Cook 12, Trott 5)
Gabriel has abandoned the the baffling round-the-wicket ploy and is back over in bright sunshine and with a soundtrack of horns. Still bowling with wheels, Gabriel goes past the outside edge twice, the second time Cook jumping and poking like a fencer on a trampoline. TV pictures show spectators at the bar, supping a dark liquid from posh glasses. We'd all like to be there.
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Ed Stockton: If Cook makes it past 20 I'll buy twitter a round.
Jay: England scoring at over 6 runs per over? In a Test Match? The world has got to be ending.
Paul Cave: Trott looks like Angus Fraser batting against Michael Holding in his prime.
Eng 20-0 (279 behind)
It's not just Alastair Cook who is needs a score and a bit of certainty around the off dolly, Jonathan Trott could do with knowing where his posh stump is. (It's the one on the left). Roach goes full, drawing an airy drive, with Trott happy to see an inside edge fly past the stumps and to fine leg for four. An England opening stand is more cringe-worthy than an episode of Peep Show. Hide behind the sofa.
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Christophe Talbotski: This is the innings for a Cook century. Guaranteed or pick me a forfeit.
Rachel T: Now come on Alastair. Any old lucky, scratchy, hanging-by-your fingernails century will do!
Anante Jariwala: I have a good feeling about Cooky's innings today.
Eng 16-0 (Cook 12, Trott 1)
Shannon Gabriel, in the side for the injured Jerome Taylor, shares the new ball, boosted by his efforts with the bat. All leg and little trunk, we expect him to have some gas. There you have it, 92.6mph, the fastest ball of the match so far. Cook, as certain around off stump as a man groping for the light switch in the dark, tentatively angles between the slips and gully for four as Gabriel keeps the clock above 90. When Gabriel comes round the wicket, Cook pulls for four with much more authority.
"Maybe I should not be thinking of Australia and their quicker bowlers but if Trott is playing as an opener and they bowl like they did in the World Cup then they will not let him get forward."
Eng 4-0 (295 behind)
Eeessshhh, Cook is beaten twice in the first three balls in exactly the area that every bowler in the world knows to bowl at him. Full, on or around off stump. Pokey, pokey, play and missy. Just an observation, but his stance looks much more open that it used to be, with his body more chest-on to the bowler. If anything, that would add to his problems outside off stump, making it harder to get across to the ball. Anyway, he clips a full ball through the leg side and takes three.
Eng 0-0
Alastair Cook is scratching away at his guard, Kemar Roach is marking out his run. At the non-striker's end, Jonathan Trott is doing some gardening. Three slips and a gully wait. The tension begins...
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Jon Dunn: What odds on a hundred plus England opening partnership? Big, I imagine.
Rich Adams: Cook knows he's under pressure, he knows runs are a must, the self doubt must be huge. It's time to lead AC.
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That scorecard entry has me in mind of how much fun it is to look at old scorecards, from every level of the game (I don't care if that makes me sound sad). They are moments in time, a snapshot of the state of a team. They also throw up some excellent questions. Why did Morne Morkel open the batting in that Test match? How did Aftab Habib manage to play for England? You know the type. Who hasn't spent hours leafing through Playfair or Wisden and taking in old scorecards? Wonderful.
David: Were the West Indies tail just really good or were Englands bowlers poor? I'm not sure.
Marko Koning: England's batsmen under pressure. Has number four in the batting-order already his boots on?
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It seems like a long time ago that England won the toss and chose to bowl, doesn't it? Thanks to some rain, some inconsistent bowling and no little Windies resistance, England have needed the best part of two days for the chance to put the mums and dads on. How good a score is 299? We're about to find out. Initially, all of the pressure will be on the under-fire England openers.
"With Gabriel and Roach if they don't bowl well they will get clattered. Unless somebody bowls really badly then it is going to be a really hard graft. I think England can make a fist of it and it will be disappointing if they do not."
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Joseph: I once met Mr Bishoo on a plane to the Carribean and had a few drinks with him. He was convinced that he was an all rounder. I thought it was the drink talking, but clearly not!
On Test Match Special during the tea interval, you can hear from Derbyshire wicketkeeper Tom Poynton, who is returning from a year out of the game because of injuries sustained in a car crash that killed his father.
The impressive young man was talking to our very own Sam Sheringham.
"It was a brilliant effort by the batsman. I said last night that if they got 300 then they would have batted well. We saw Broad bowl very well in moments today."
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Bishoo lbw Moeen 30 (WI 299 all out)
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That'll do, England can finally have a bat. Umpire's call for point of impact and line, but enough vindication for Bruce Oxenford to give Devandra Bishoo the finger for the second time. West Indies are 299 all out, thanks in no small part to that very handy last-wicket partnership of 52. We'll take tea, then all eyes on Mssrs Cook and Trott.
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WI 299-9
Is the torture over? Bishoo sweeping Moeen. Looks out and is good enough for Bruce Oxenford. Up goes the finger. Bishoo, enjoying himself, wants another look.
"Fantastic batting. Tail-enders getting bat to ball and taking some risks."
WI 298-9 (Bishoo 30, Gabriel 19)
Last-wicket partnerships are the best thing ever if they are for your team and more annoying than Alan Carr if they go against you. England have done so much right in this afternoon session, but Gabriel and Bishoo are now making them look a bit village. Chris Jordan serves up a long half-volley and the left-handed Bishoo, batting like David Gower, languidly lofts over mid-off for four. Next ball, up and over the covers. Bishoo's highest Test score, 50 partnership. All very silly.
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Zigzag: These last wicket partnerships vs England are becoming a regular thing. Time to pick Plunkett just to clear up the tail?
Andy Compton: Which is more likely - a goal in the CL Madrid derby or England getting a tenth wicket?
Matt Wilkinson: England's inability to bowl out a tail showing again! This partnership is costly!
WI 290-9 (Bishoo 22, Gabriel 19)
The skipper's solution is to turn to Moeen Ali, in the hope of enticing the big shot with some off-spin. It nearly works as well, as Gabriel aims a big heave at the first ball and is lucky not to see it disturb his timbers. But the rest of the over he is more resolute, and with England still groping for a breakthrough, I'm going to hand you back to Stephan Shemilt...
WI 289-9 (Jordan 26-4-57-2)
Gabriel gets a life when he slices an attempted drive and it lands just short of Stuart Broad at mid-off. The wheels aren't quite coming off yet for England, but the wheel-nuts are certainly coming loose a little as a tired-looking Chris Jordan sprays one down the leg side. Then Bishoo plays another great shot, easing the ball through the covers. Problems to solve for Alastair Cook...
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Rob Carter: Reading the live feed from over in the US between meetings I have to wonder what Americans would make of Mr Boycott. I cannot think of another broadcaster anywhere in the world, in any other sport that gives you analysis like he does.
WI 285-9 (partnership 38)
Shannon Gabriel beats his highest Test score, and equals his best first-class knock of 16, with a four dragged wide of mid-on. And then Bishoo unfurls an absolutely sumptuous shot, creamed through mid-off with exquisite hands. Ben Stokes, who kept Marlon Samuels tied down yesterday, is taking some real tap from numbers 10 and 11 here.
"I thought Alastair Cook was going to bring Moeen Ali on and he has instead turned to Ben Stokes. With the way these two are batting Moeen should be on. Some of the responsibility must also be placed on Mooen's shoulders. He should be badgering Cook right now telling him to put him on - that he will get him that last wicket. I keep bleating on about it but it is quite obvious on to me right now that the spinner should be on against two tail-enders."
WI 273-9 (Stokes 16-7-56-1)
It's a double change in the bowling, with Ben Stokes replacing James Anderson. The Durham man deserves a second wicket for my money - he's bowled very well at times in this innings.
Get a load of this from number 10 Devendra Bishoo - he stands tall and punches Ben Stokes down to the boundary at mid-off, with a flourishing follow-through for good measure, then he plays the same shot and collects three more. West Indies are advancing towards a competitive score here.
WI 262-9
Chris Jordan replaces Stuart Broad - the Nottinghamshire man's quest for a five-for is over, at least for now. Shannon Gabriel pokes a single to deep square.
"I hope the England players do not feel like they have been out there for as long as they have. Usually when you have been out there for this long it means you are 500 or so behind but they are not. You hope that they go out with a positive mindset and go and get themselves 200 ahead."
WI 261-9 (Bishoo 6, Gabriel 8)
Bishoo prolongs the wait for Alastair Cook and Jonathan Trott with a maiden off Anderson's latest over. We think that tea will be taken if England get a wicket now.
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James Cox: Broad at 85mph = Broad at his best.
Mark: Broad bowling much better today, it's so frustrating that he can't do it consistently.
Luke Swales: Keep the criticism of Broad coming folks! Always proves people wrong.
WI 261-9 (Broad 24-9-61-4)
Broad is so often the lightning rod for criticism of England's bowling performances but he's bowled superbly in this spell. Can he finish this off and get himself on the honours board at the Grenada National Stadium? Not yet he can't - Gabriel picks up a length ball and thumps it over cow corner for six.
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Michael Dickie: Win becoming a possibility? Bowl them out tonight, bat for 2 days then skittle them on the last day? You never know.
"It was a weak throw from Broad's right. That had run-out written all over it, Gabriel is a bit of a lumberer."
WI 254-9
Jonathan Trott stands in the slips - his heart must be fluttering like a golfer's trousers in a stiff wind, the last thing the opener needs here in a frustrating last-wicket stand. Bishoo gets off the mark with an absolutely magnificent square drive off Jimmy Anderson - four all the way. Off the last ball, there's a dreadful mix-up and Bishoo is nearly run out.
"I'm sure it's close, but why wouldn't you review that? Ah, it's because he's been caught. Big inside edge, caught at fourth slip. Broad now has 4-53, it was only an hour ago that we were talking about him not being right. He will have a huge confidence boost."
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This is turning into a great session for England, who are running through the West Indies lower order courtesy of a fine spell from Stuart Broad. He picks up his fourth when Kemar Roach inside-edges a inswinger onto his pads and the looping ball is pouched by Joe Root at gully.
Woakes has surgery
Ever wanted to read a statement from the ECB? Here's one about Chris Woakes...
"The ECB medical team confirms that England and Warwickshire bowler Chris Woakes underwent uncomplicated keyhole surgery on his left knee for a meniscal tear earlier today. The injury occurred while undergoing rehab for his foot injury. His rehab is likely to take a further four to six weeks."
WI 247-8
What do Roach and Bishoo, neither of them proficient attacking batsmen, try to do here? Do they look to block and frustrate the England bowlers, or with a sub-par score on the board and not much batting to come, do they play a few shots and try and add a few runs? At the moment, resistance seems to be the preferred option - Bishoo blocks out a maiden from Anderson.
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Mark Rookes: Broad finally bowls three overs of decent line and length, just a pity it only happens ever three/four Tests!
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WI 247-8 (Broad 22-9-53-3)
If Stuart Broad can claim these last two wickets, his reward will be a 13th Test five-for. At the moment, he's bowling just a touch fuller than he has done thus far in this series and looking dangerous. He sends one whistling just past Kemar Roach's off pole, and it's time for drinks.
WI 247-8 (Roach 1, Bishoo 0)
Devendra Bishoo is the new man. Down the other end, Kemar Roach gets off the mark with a single into the covers.
"It was good bowling. Holder was waiting for the short ball and Broad got him driving, playing away from the body. The West Indies are finding the second new ball tricky to play."
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Holder c Buttler b Broad 22 (WI 246-8)
The Broad mojo is well and truly back! Holder's reprieve is a brief one as he pokes forward at a scrambled-seam delivery that nibbles away off the track and takes the edge. Jos Buttler is catching them like a lizard gobbling flies at the moment.
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Matthew D: That was a catch. Went straight in to Ali's fingers. Jason Holder, what a lucky chap!
Jon Dunn: The fingers are under the ball, but the ball touches the grass. What do the laws say?
"The Australians did away with this in their domestic competition. They worked out that every decision that went to the replay, something like 94% were ruled not out."
"That's ridiculous. How many of these do we have to see?"
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WI 240-7
If you watch a lot of cricket, you'll be well aware that these sorts of decisions rarely go the fielder's way, and I'm afraid it's the same old story here. The camera doesn't show daylight between ball and ground, and Holder survives.
"I'm pretty sure he's taken this. It's gone straight into the fingers, which are under the ball."
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WI 240-7
Jason Holder tries to slap Stuart Broad into the leg side and Moeen Ali, running forward from mid-wicket, says he's got his fingers underneath it. Holder ain't moving though, and the umpires decide to send it upstairs...
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Will in Horsham: England are a thoroughly unlikeable team and their attitude of not applauding Samuels typifies their approach to sportsmanship. I hope whoever takes charge of this much needed shake up of our national team, not only teaches them how to play cricket but also teaches them some manners and respect!
WI 240-7 (Holder 15, Roach 0)
Long levers. Jason Holder has them, and he's not afraid to use them to terrific effect - freeing his spidery arms and swatting Anderson over the ropes at mid-wicket. He tries the same stroke again, but the ball is too wide for the shot this time and he's lucky not to get a snick through to Jos Buttler.
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Jonathan France: Great to see Broad charging in at 91mph for the wicket of Ramdin. Where has this Stuart Broad been for the last 12 months?
David: Now then Stuart Broad, if you bowled 91mph deliveries like that on a regular basis, I might not be so critical.
"It's been a decent spell from Broad. I always think his bowling is so much more effective when he's up above 85mph. Yes, it's hard on the body, but when he's down at 82, 83, there's nothing on it."
WI 233-7
That wicket ball from Stuart Broad was clocked at 91mph - not too shabby for a man whose pace has been questioned in the wake of his recovery from knee problems. Kemar Roach, who frustrated England in Antigua, blocks out the rest of the over - a wicket maiden.
"That was a beautiful delivery, as good as we've seen. Perfect line and length, just outside off stump. He was trying to forward but couldn't got stuck on the crease and it left him ever so slightly. hat's as good as it gets."
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Ramdin c Buttler b Broad 31 (WI 233-7)
Are West Indies unravelling here? They lose their second linchpin in a matter of minutes. Stuart Broad sends down an absolute beauty on a fourth-stump line, just nipping away a fraction off the pitch, and Ramdin is too late in withdrawing his bat. Jos Buttler gleefully accepts the edge.
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WI 233-6 (Anderson 19-8-33-2)
We saw in Antigua that Jason Holder can play some lovely, straight-batted shots and his first boundary here is no exception: back foot, full face of the blade, pushed back past Jimmy Anderson's toes. He nearly gets another one, but Anderson sticks out a leg to make a boundary-saving tackle, meeting the ball with impeccable timing. The Burnley Baresi?
"The point I made about Samuels earlier was that, when he gets to a hundred, he would relax because he had to work so hard to get there. That's what happened the last time he got a ton, against South Africa."
WI 226-6 (Ramdin 30, Holder 3)
Holder, tall and correct, connects sweetly with a trademark, high-elbowed extra-cover drive but the ball is well fielded by Moeen Ali. A second straight maiden for Broad, who has found a fuller, more testing length.
"This is a different sort of test for Jason Holder. There were no demons in Antigua. Here, it's muggy and humid with a ball only five overs old. It will be an examination of his technique if England bowl well."
WI 226-6
The great Clive Lloyd was up in the stands, watching that shot from Marlon Samuels. You could almost see the steam coming out of the big man's ears. It was a terrific innings from Samuels, but if you were being critical you might say that the final stages of his knock smacked of a man playing for his century, not for his team. Holder is off the mark with two past backward point.
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Karl: It takes something to go over and beyond a century, just ask Sir Geoff.
WI 223-6 (Broad 18-6-47-1)
Jason Holder, who made that terrific, match-saving century in Antigua, is the new batsman. He batted well in partnership with Denesh Ramdin on that day and here they are, together again. Ramdin blocks out an accurate, probing over from Broad.
"He's a mercurial individual. That was very airy-fairy, he played poor shots after he got to 50, too. It was a good ball and he didn't move his feet. More times than not, you'll get out to that. It's a silly, pointless thing to do after you've grafted for all that time. You wonder what goes on between his ears."
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Samuels c Bell b Anderson 103 (WI 223-6)
He had shown the patience of a saint. After his century it was more like an unholy rush to get on with it. Samuels is fortunate to miss with one attempted whack at an Anderson delivery, but his second big shot finds the edge and squirts into the hands of Ian Bell at second slip. All over - and not without some parting words for Samuels from the England fielders.
"It's fair to say that England haven't rushed to applaud the hundred. They should have done better than that."
100 for Samuels
WI 223-5
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It's there! Marlon Samuels rather nervously chases a Jimmy Anderson delivery and manages to flip it just over the slip cordon and away for four. But what a superb effort from the Jamaican, who has shown the patience of a saint in this innings. Or at least...
"At the moment, this Test doesn't look healthy for a result, unless something inexplicable happens."
WI 219-5 (Samuels 99, Ramdin 30)
Samuels moves on to 99 with a nudge to fine leg. Nearly there, Marlon. Ramdin, who has batted beautifully in very awkward, intermittent circumstances, latches onto a short n' wide one from Broad and slashes it to the point fence.
"More than the rain, the sweating under the covers is the problem. That's what might make the ball do a little, too."
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Rejoice. Cricket is back. Stuart Broad has the ball, and Marlon Samuels, who has been stuck in the 90s longer than a die-hard Supergrass fan, is on strike...
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On a serious note, we have now lost a serious amount of time out of this game. Are England's chances of claiming that coveted first Test win since 2012 receding into the distance? Or can some explosive bowling, or perhaps some inventive captaincy from Alastair Cook, still force a result?
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The restart has been delayed until 19:00 BST due to a still soggy outfield. Patience, patience...
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Television showing pictures of Adam Lyth keeping busy by offering throwdowns to a suhatted Ben Stokes. Lyth sporting an impressive corona of stubble on his bald head - almost Zidane-esque, that...
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Eight minutes left until play resumes. If the rain holds off, we could be in for a long session, so fix your dinner now. You haven't got long mind - think boiled egg rather than chicken chasseur...
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Alec Smith: I was hungover this morning and I put it all down to Broad not bowling at the stumps yesterday. #britishhumbugs
Good news
Play is due to resume at 18:50 BST. I can't promise it won't be raining again by then. But we live in hope.
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News to bring you on Adil Rashid - the spinner will not be returning home to play county cricket, as his side Yorkshire had requested.
Rashid was not picked for this match, but is apparently in contention to play in the third Test of the series in Bridgetown - so the ECB have turned down Yorkshire's application to release him.
Rashid, no doubt, will be crestfallen to have to travel on to Barbados rather than returning home to take on Warwickshire in sunny Leeds.
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Harry Shawyer: Rain stopping play in Grenada. No doubt this will be blamed on Moores/Cook/ECB management.
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Poor old Marlon Samuels. He'd have reckoned on bringing up his century last night as he cantered through the latter part of his innings to reach 94 not out, then those dastardly English fielders decided to come off for bad light.
No matter, Marlon would have thought, I'll knock them off in the morning - but no sooner had he got to 97 than the rain came down. Still, he'd have said to himself as he sat down to lunch, plenty of time in the afternoon session - but just one run later, he's back in the pavilion again.
Samuels is a pretty cool customer, but even he must be getting a little antsy by now. He must have worked his way through more chewing gum than Fergie in the 1999 Champions League final by now...
"It was a lot of fun to see the effect our fast bowlers had on other players - I was lucky to play in a team with some fierce players. I did not end up doing what I really wanted to do, I never wanted to be a wicketkeeper. At the beginning of my cricket career, in college, I hated bowling and I found fielding very boring so I tried my hand wicketkeeping. Primarily I was a batsman and the wicketkeeping side of it was an asset I had in situations when things were tight between me and another player. I went to Australia as a back-up wicketkeeper and played my first two Test as a batsman but then the wicket-keeper broke his finger and I got my chance. As time went on I got better at keeping to real genuine fast bowling."
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Mark Savile: I know rules are rules but it was dry for whole lunch, should have been playing. Modern attitude needed or audiences will fall.
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I'm told that it's looking unpromisingly overcast out in Grenada, leaden clouds rolling in over the volcanic hills. I fear we could be off for a while here. Let's just say if it was Wimbledon, they'd be rifling through the video archives in search of the 1980 McEnroe-Borg final right about now...
"He is a very good player but he does not endear himself to the opponents. I saw his press conference yesterday where he said he was going to get 150 - and I have seen twice where he has done well after he has been wound up."
"I think last night - whether it was the Stokes confrontation or not - Samuels seemed to decide as a senior player that he needed to get going and I think he played the situation right."
"Marlon Samuels has had a chequered career in West Indies cricket. He has had one or two situations which I think has played on his mind. He has had some ups and downs but that has not stopped him from being him. He doesn't feel that certain bowlers should bowl to him and he plays big shots and gets out."
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Jay: Good. Now they can have the dessert that they didn't have time for during the lunch break.
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This is all a but silly, isn't it? The rain wasn't falling for 40 minutes while the players were eating lunch, and now, as soon as we get started again, down it comes again. What were the umpires thinking? Surely in this sort of humidity, any chance to play while the skies are clear has to be taken...
"Sadly I think there is worse still to come. It is very disappointing for England, the West Indies and the spectators. It looks like it's going to be set in for at least half an hour."
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And with that, the rain comes down, the groundsmen come on, and the players come off. We've had seven balls after lunch, and we're back in the sheds again...
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New ball
WI 214-5
You don't envy Marlon Samuels here. England have taken the new ball with Samuels three away from his ton and the rain, I'm afraid to say, looming ominously again. He errs on the side of caution, just working Jimmy Anderson for a single.
"I feels like yesterday morning when it was muggy and I expect this ball to hoop around. England need to strike now, they have got to get the ball up there and swinging."
WI 213-5 (Samuels 97, Ramdin 26)
This session, we're hearing, will be a two-and-a-half hour job, finishing at 20:10 BST. Ben Stokes finishes off the one ball remaining in his over, and Chris Jordan will bowl the first full over after lunch. Marlon Samuels is looking a little edgy as he creeps towards three figures, dangling the bat hesitantly at a swinging delivery outside off. Good over from Jordan, just a leg bye from it, and the new ball is available...
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Wonder how well Marlon Samuels lunched? He's bound to have a few butterflies in that stomach, as he contemplates the three runs he needs to reach a seventh Test hundred. Will he get there? Let's find out...
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Tricky Dicky: Aren't the selectors missing an opportunity as usual? This is not the Windies team of the 70's and 80's. They are not a top side. We have passed up an opportunity to look at the likes of Mark Wood, Adil Rashid, Adam Lyth etc. What are we going to learn about Stuart Broad? We have bigger tests to come in the shape of New Zealand and the Aussies. When do these guys get a chance if not in this series? We won't beat the Aussies if we don't find better players.
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Meanwhile - and you may not want to hear this - while we wait for the clouds to part and the cricket to resume in Grenada, there's an IPL match going on in Bengaluru.
AB De Villiers, Virat Kohli, Brendon McCullum, Mitchell Starc, MS Dhoni and Suresh Raina are all in action as Royal Challengers Bangalore take on Chennai Super Kings, and the only precipitation over there is raining sixes - Chennai are 177-7 after 19 overs of their innings.
But you don't want to watch that wham-bam nonsense, do you? I know we can count on you to stick with the sophisticated subtleties of Test match cricket.
You're still there right? Guys? Guys?!
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Thank you Stephan, and greetings to you all on a day that so far has been mainly about lunch and the weather - much like an awkward lift conversation with a work colleague who you don't usually talk to.
I'm hoping to take you through an uninterrupted afternoon session of scintillating sunshine and scintillating cricket. Come on, this is the West Indies. It can't be too much to ask, can it?
Weather latest
BBC Weather's Jacob Cope: "This rain shouldn't last long with sunshine returning soon but there are more showers out there. Hopefully they'll miss St George's. Thursday looks drier and sunnier but then Friday may bring thunderstorms. Top temperatures will be around 28°C."
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Right, despite the lack of action, this has been good fun. It's time for me to clear off, with James Gheerbrant coming in soon to talk you through the afternoon session... hopefully.
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Marc Fulcher: Must admit I'm one of the guilty party for the sneaky emails at work...head down at the desk quickly jotting down a few notes to the TMS team, making out I'm busy compiling emails for "business".
Jonathan Swithinbank: How the tables have turned, I was 13 and actually at the game when Alex Tudor stranded himself on 99, now I'm the one grabbing glances at the BBC's live text and unable to watch it!
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Ben: This must be the only sport in the world where time is lost because the players need to eat at a set time!
So, lunch is about to be taken. Please, please don't ask me why they schedule a 40-minute break when the players have already been off for half an hour, because we'll all get frustrated together.
Anyway, during the interval, Test Match Special will be playing the second part of James Anderson: The Wicket Man. Tune in, because it's a roaringly good listen.
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Listen up, KP watchers. Your man has been back in action today, and he's hit his first fifty of the County Championship season, scoring an unbeaten 53 before Surrey declared on 207-4 in their second innings against Glamorgan to set the hosts a target of 352. Glamorgan are going well though - they're 112-0.
In Division One, it looks like a draw is in prospect in Birmingham. Warwickshire, chasing 379 to beat Hampshire, are currently 203-4. Varun Chopra is five runs short of a century.
Nottinghamshire v Yorkshire is also heading for a draw. Trailing by 13 runs on the first innings, they are 351-7 in their second dig, with Chris Read unbeaten on 81.
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Seb Horner: Poor Samuels - got me wondering though, what's the longest total time taken to reach a 100, including delays, end of plays etc?
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Rob in Bristol: Geoffrey Boycott needs to relax, we are a team in the midst of rebuilding and we have enough talent to make things happen. Does anyone remember the improvement England showed after the 2002/3 Ashes and how we improved to the point we beat Australia at home in 2005? Be patient and let our boys find their feet.
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Martin: A Test series away in the West Indies should have been an ideal opportunity to blood one or two. We need an answer to our opening batsmen problems and if Cook has not fired up by the start of the Ashes are we going to drop him just as we did for the World Cup? I feel sure the Aussies will beat us in all departments unless we start looking at what else is out there!
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I'm hearing a rumour that the rain has stopped, but lunch is being taken at 17:00. Play will resume 40 minutes after that. We are in for a long old evening.
"If it was left to me I would completely disassociate one-day and Test cricket. There may be a few players that played both but I would move away from our current thinking that there is a link between Test and one-day cricket and you build from the top. It was proved in the World Cup that it does not work. I would pick young players like Jason Roy - exciting players who know how to smack the ball. Then you do not need to rest Test players because they are not playing so much cricket."
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John: Many years ago, when I was in the Army, I was an office manager who would set up a small black and white TV in my office to watch the home test matches, no sound of course, and I would get regular 'checks' of the score by the Commanding Officer, either by telephone or by making an excuse to come down and see me. His name, Lt Col Ashton-Wickett RA, how appropriate.
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Bangladesh are closing in on a third straight win against Pakistan in their ODI series. Azhar Ali's tourists were bowled out for 250 batting first, and in reply the hosts have raced to 225-2 after 37 overs, with Soumya Sarkar hitting his maiden ODI ton, bringing up the milestone with a straight six.
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Wondering why we're not talking about the live action? It's raining again in Grenada, with no sign of a let-up. We've been off for about 20 minutes, having had only 8.5 overs after the start was delayed for an hour. In that time, West Indies pushed their score along to 210-5.
"The intention was to rest players for this Test series. I can prove it if need be. Then people started to worry about their jobs from Paul Downton to Moores and Cook and they changed their minds after a dismal World Cup. I would not have changed my mind. As well as resting bodies and minds of players ahead of a heavy schedule against New Zealand and Australia, you could test certain other players."
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Robin: I challenge anyone to beat this set up! TMS one screen, work emails on the other.
"You could have tried Lyth up top with Cook and kept Trott at three. You have young Taylor who has been on the fringes and Rashid - all of them could have been tried. You do not learn a lot sat on your backside in the dressing room. You did not need to bring Moeen Ali here, you could have tried the other spinners. There were so many options."
"England know that the middle order is set, that there are troubles at the top of the order and are starting to realise there is an over-reliance on Anderson and Broad. They will be hoping that the English conditions that they are used to will get them firing but I am not so sure. It is what they do not know that is more worrying."
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Neil, I'm delighted that you have reminded me that there is always someone somewhere in the world sitting at their desk. If you're in the UK, get yourself off home - you've earned an early cut. Keep following us on your phone. If you're in the Americas, it's time for you to get involved. Aussies/Kiwis, I'll deal with you later.
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Neil Shilladay: Re 16:30: Alas no. On the west coast of Canada, we are just starting work. (8:30 am since you ask). Was looking forward to a nice morning / afternoon following the 2nd test.
"In England, the Ashes wickets will be slower and they will turn because of the drainage at the ground. It will blunt Mitchell Johnson, but not Mitchell Starc."
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Rob Mac: I have simply booked a meeting room for "Personal Development Planning" all afternoon. TMS sound and text all to myself and I look very diligent and progressive!
Richard Phillips: I just keep the screen open on the text commentary with the screen maximized at all times. Why? Because this is cricket and work is work. Work needs to learn not to get in the way and if the boss don't like it…I know he's doing exactly the same thing anyway. Why don't people get bosses who like cricket?
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So, more rain. Another game of office cricket? See if you can cram 30 minutes of work in before home time? Knock off early?
"The lack of penetration worries me. Making batsmen make mistakes - I have not seen a lot of that. If Australia's bowlers bowled on this pitch would they make the batsman play more and get more opportunities? The answer is yes. If we play this way against Australia at home then there will be hell to pay."
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I think that is a touch harsh, Swanny. England bowled reasonably well for my money, at least finding a fuller length. The Windies have been up to the task in defence, even if Marlon Samuels has gone in to his shell.
"This morning has been dull. England have bowled too wide. It is a bit of a worry that Stokes and Jordan do not look as penetrative as you would like. I may be being a bit harsh - it is a dead pitch but there was some swing this morning."
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WI 210-5
Yep, the rain we knew was coming has arrived. The umpires pull the stumps from the ground, the staff pull the blue cover on, the players rush to the sanctuary of the dressing room. They wouldn't be off if they were playing at Old Trafford.
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WI 210-5
This ground is entirely surrounded by hills, pretty much lying in a valley. The clouds gather on high, then swoop in to dump their rain on the square. Billy the Barmy Army trumpeter plays the Hokey Cokey, perhaps in tribute to the way that the covers have been on and off for the first two days. Ramdin drives Stokes through down the ground, and then...
"It has been a fairly predictable morning. There is a big danger if you try to score too quickly when the ball is not there to hit you will get out. It happened with Samuels yesterday after he got to his 50 where he had a few wild swipes. He is getting frustrated right now trying to get his 100. I said before that patience is not his thing - he played well before his 50 yesterday, then lost his patience and then got it back towards the end."
"You can feel that there is rain in the air and I wonder if this will play on Samuels's mind."
WI 204-5 (Samuels 97, Ramdin 18)
Still good from Jordan, who has repeatedly bowled a full length that often eluded England yesterday. Samuels continues his slow march towards a ton - a single takes him to 97. The more important action may be off the pitch, mind. Clouds are gathering atop the surrounding hills, the groundstaff are donning their yellow waterproofs and manning the covers.
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John in Hereford: The alt tab shortcut can catch you out if you happen to have multiple incriminating windows open at work. However, if you press the windows key and tab you get a far more aesthetically pleasing view of your windows, making selection much easier.
Paul in Leicester: I'm on the live text whilst writing the penultimate essay of my degree in the University library. So nobody will tell me off for not working, it's just I will end up staying here all night...
WI 199-5 (Stokes 14-7-37-1)
Stokes asks for some sawdust to be spread on the popping crease, where he his leading his front foot. That front foot, his left, has a boot in which a space is cut out of the front, alleviating the pressure that goes through every time he slams his body through the delivery stride. A decent over to Samuels, full, with the would-be centurion still watchful. A maiden. Still no repeat of the verbals, either. They've slept on the row and are now just indifferent towards each other.
"It has been an interesting morning. The West Indies have looked like to me that they wanted to continue as they were playing last night - both Samuels and Ramdin - and they have played a few shots but haven't got many runs."
WI 199-5 (76 overs)
Samuels was on the charge last evening, but has been kept on a tight leash this morning. A touch of the nervous 90s? Jordan goes very full and screams for lbw, turning to the umpire with arms wide and mouth agog. Two noises and leggy, so not much going for it. When Jordan errs again, Samuels picks him off to move to 96. After that review from the first ball of the day, the Windies have come through a swinging storm quite well. Four overs until the new ball.
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Edmund Tapfield: The Windows-D shortcut leaves you with a blank desktop, which looks distinctly suspicious. Might I suggest having a complicated-looking spreadsheet open in another window, and hitting Alt-Tab instead?
Evan Byrne: I'm keeping up with the text commentary on my mobile phone in the office in Piemonte - looks like a message for work and the screen goes blank after a few seconds anyway, so no-one can see it. Easy.
WI 198-5 (Samuels 95, Ramdin 14)
There's at least one member of the crowd dressed in both an MCC blazer and tie - the full egg and bacon. I'm dubious enough about someone donning that get-up at Lord's, buy why would you go all the way to the Caribbean and dress like a rhubarb and custard? Stokes still getting it to hoop, Ramdin squeezing a drive behind square.
"This is why Test cricket is great because last night the wicket was doing nothing and today it is swinging about. Sometimes Sometimes conditions change between sessions and as a player you have to be able to adapt."
WI 193-5 (Samuels 95, Ramdin 10)
Grenada is picture perfect - straw-brown wicket, lush green outfield, blue sky and sunshine. The cricket is decent too, Jordan testing Ramdin on a decent length, with the skipper then going to the text book for a cover drive when served a wide half-volley. Very watchable, miles better than most of yesterday's action.
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Chris Hedger: 10:40 pm in Langkawi, Malaysia. Sitting in my underpants, dentures in soak and single malt in my hand. I just want to watch cricket but all I hear are moans about 2 great all-rounders, Woakes and Jordan, who both get runs and wickets and would get into any international side. We have a great well balanced side. What do you want?
WI 189-5 (73 overs)
Stokes and Samuels resume their duel as we set yet more replays of Cook dropping Samuels off Chris Jordan. The right-hander had 32 at the time. No sign of any verbals from Stokes yet, he doesn't even appeal when the keeper and slips are up for a caught behind. You should be screaming for them, Benjamin, you never know what you might get. No sign of an edge, mind. Decent start by England with the ball.
"Samuels came past us all at dinner yesterday. He just walked passed me, Swanny and the rest of the TMS team and walked up to the legend Tony Cozier and just said 'Ledge', shook his hand and walked off."
WI 189-5 (Samuels 95, Ramdin 6)
Samuels, chewing gum and pectorals, faces up to Chris Jordan as he hunts down a seventh Test ton. A long hop is a nice start for the batsman, but is well stopped at point. Just a single. Jordan, the shuffler, then hangs the ball outside Ramdin's off stump, starting wide and swinging wider. Three slips and gully, warming themselves under the sort of sunshine you associate with the Caribbean. One from the over. I suspect the Stokes-Jordan duo will take us to the new ball, where Broad and Anderson will take over.
"England are just waiting for the new ball in 10 overs. Samuels will hope to have his hundred by then but Stokes has managed to have got the ball swinging both ways this morning and he will be hoping to pick up a wicket or two before the new ball."
WI 188-5 (Samuels 94, Ramdin 6)
Stokes tries again in the sunshine as the Barmy Army sing Jerusalem. Creatures of habit, the Barmies. Then again, most cricket fans are. Stokes is getting this old ball to reverse, ducking in to the pads of Ramdin, with the final ball nipping away. Captain Ramdin is fooling no one by pretending he didn't play at that. The new ball is due in nine overs, but the old ball is doing plenty.
"It was worth a gamble and you get two new reviews in 10 overs time. Jos Buttler was about three quarters convinced."
Not out
WI 188-5
Yep, probably the right decision. England were whooping and clapping, even when the replays were shown on the big screen. But, there was nothing to suggest that Ramdin had got bat or glove on it as the ball flew down the leg side. As we were.
Umpire review
WI 188-5
It was short, down the leg side. Ramdin had a waft, taken by Jos Buttler. Can't see this going England's way...
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WI 188-5
No Hot Spot, so there will be no help there. The replays don't suggest that England have got this right. It's hard to see how this will be overturned.
Umpire review
WI 188-5
First ball, England think they have success. Gloved down the leg side? Umpire says no. Let's have a look...
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Simon Hodgson: Stokes is a batting all-rounder. That he can bowl quickly is a bonus but he isn't more than a 4th seamer at the moment.
Chris Parker: Can people just bear in mind Stokes is 23, at that age McGrath's bowling average was 42.
Philippa Dasher: Stokes is a very aggressive, talented bowler- he has Test class quality and huge potential, from what I see.
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Right then, after a hour-long delay, we are about to get some cricket. Put the stress ball away, settle in and pretend you're doing some work. Ben Stokes has the ball, Denesh Ramdin is on strike. Three slips...
"We have got some blue skies above, the sun is shining and the umpires are heading out. Alastair Cook is leading out the team and the fans are on their feet and applauding."
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Wonderfully, the sun is shining in Grenada and the England bowlers are out going through some looseners. Ottis Gibson, the bowling coach, has a baseball mitt on. I wonder if there's a practical part of the interview for the role of bowling coach, where you have to demonstrate your competency with a mitt?
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Sam in Wokingham: Whatever you do don't watch highlights of 2005 Ashes. It's a mistake. All it does is highlight just how far behind we are. I'm all for being positive, and I think we have plenty of talent - but nowhere near enough bravery and belief, both at player and selector levels. How can all of us keyboard activists see the errors, but the powers can't?
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I'm enjoying this chat about following the live text in the office, it has me in mind of the lengths we go to in order to keep in touch with the Test match. Being dragged on a shopping trip and watching the TV in Dixons, holding your mobile in the air to get a signal. Aged 14, I was on a school trip in France and phoned home to get the Test score. Had to explain to my sister that Ceefax page 341 had the scorecard. I thought she was mistaken when she said Alex Tudor had made 99.
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Richard: Amateur hour from Jacob (15:21), there. I have spent much of my working life mastering the art of live text viewing on the company's time. Live text in a separate browser, minimise that window, learn your keyboard shortcuts (windows button + D to clear screen) and be vigilant!
Tim: Jacob (and other slackers) you need to import data from web, on the Data menu...
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Cook's just dropped Samuels again, too. Bit slow to move to his right, the skipper.
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Just watching some replays of yesterday's action. A second look doesn't make Moeen Ali's bowling any better.
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Tom Buckley: Philippa Dasher (15:13). It doesn't matter how fast you bowl it's where you're aiming. You have to make a batsman work for his runs.
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Richard: People talking about England's determination to pick all-rounders the whole time who aren't good enough at either batting or bowling, which is a criticism I wholeheartedly agree with. Jordan, Stokes are just not good enough to help bowl out an Australian batting line up twice in five days. However, the bigger point is, how on earth is Broad still in the team. He is an "all rounder" whose bowling is probably the worst of the whole attack and who, by his own admission, can no longer bat against fast bowling. How can he still be automatic choice? I really don't understand. Time for big change in this England team.
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Jacob, in a previous live text, a very helpful chap got in touch to say there is a way to link a live text directly to a spreadsheet, so that entries go there and make it seem like you're doing some work. I don't remember the exact details, but perhaps the same whizz could remind us of the trick? Obviously I don't condone slacking, want you to work hard, expect everyone to pay attention in double maths class etc etc.
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Jacob: Can you make a live text feed where it is office friendly so anyone who walks by or overlooks doesn't see pictures and big logos. Blowing my cover here.
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Philippa Dasher: Rob in Salisbury (14:52) reckons Stokes isn't Test class. Stokes was bowling 85-91mph, can't imagine there are many quicker county bowlers.
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News. Good news.
Play will begin at 15:45 BST, providing there is no more rain. There were 98 set to be bowled today, but we have lost eight of them.
So, that's about half an hour for you to fill before there is cricket to entertain us. Another innings of office cricket, then maybe a brew. Send an email and make a phone call, just to make it look like you're doing some work.
The TMS team have decided it's time for a game of corridor cricket too, with coverage of 5 live sports extra switching to the County Championship game between Glamorgan and Surry, where some bloke called Pietersen has made a half-century.
Remember, every single ball of county cricket will be live on the BBC this summer.
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Alan: England's issue is the selection of so-called 'all-rounders' who aren't good enough at either discipline to get in the side. Chris Jordan isn't in the top 10 seamers in the country, but he can bat a bit, so he gets picked. James Taylor must be considering polishing up that off-break because clearly a plethora of first-class runs doesn't get you a place as a batsman anymore. Stokes can bowl a bit though, so...
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Neil Foot: Can you do a live text "replay" of the 2005 Ashes or something during this rain delay? I need occupying.
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Excellent news if you need a distraction. The covers are coming off. Maybe give yourself 10 more minutes of office cricket. You know the drill - stress ball, maybe an umbrella for a bat and bin as stumps. Automatically out if you hit the ball into the boss's office. One hand, one bounce.
"Against a West Indies attack without Taylor you have got to fancy your chances. With Gabriel, Roach and Holder those types of bowlers should be good for Alastair Cook."
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There's a couple of frustrating things about this lack of cricket. Firstly, a glance out of the window tells me that the weather in Salford - not renowned for its cricketing suitability - is better than in Grenada. Secondly, I fully understand that the Test match provides excellent distraction from a day in the office/school/mortuary. Without the cricket, there's a serious danger of some work having to be done.
"I do not think a single ball Stuart Broad bowled would have hit the stumps and that is poor from a player like Broad. England have got into these positions far too many times over the last few years. I do not see the bowlers bowling enough balls asking the batsman if they have a good enough technique to play a proper forward defensive."
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Rob in Salisbury: Is this the strongest XI England could put out? In my view, not even close. Jordan is a fine player but is not in the top 10 seamers in the country. Stokes isn't a test class bowler. Broad needs a rest - he's mentally shot. Moeen isn't fit. Trott is scared of fast bowling. Cook is totally out of touch. Even ignoring KP, this is never the best XI we have got - nowhere near.
"We were debating last night who had the best of the day. I think the West Indies to have got to 188-5 will have been delighted - especially with the ball swinging and being put into bat. If you are swing bowler you have to try and get it swing it to hit off-stump. The batsman yesterday were missing so many balls that would have hit fourth or fifth stump and that was the problem."
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There's that ethereal haze hanging over Grenada again, covering the hills that surround the ground. The seats inside are very sparsely populated, spectators almost outnumbered by the amount of England flags that hangs from the walls. The raining is easing, but the wind has dropped. When the players do get out, it looks a good time to be bowling.
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Dave in Chester: Aggers is right, England did miss an opportunity. Throughout the day they consistently bowled too short. Look at the Hawkeye of Broad's first spell - not a single ball would have hit the stumps. It doesn't take too much to realise that if you remove two of the ten methods of dismissal completely, you're going to find it harder to bowl a side out.
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I have a huge sense of deja vu. At this time yesterday we were getting excited about seeing some cricket, only to be disappointed by the rain. Then, we waited for almost two hours for some action, so let's hope it's not the same again.
At the moment, there's no sign of anything happening.
"I think England's tactics were spot on. If you leave Samuels be and let him get on with it, he 's a very good player, if you get into this head he can't help himself."
"Ben Stokes is an aggressive type of cricketer, who tries to makes things happen. His battle with Samuels was exciting. Otherwise the pitch made it dull."
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Stokes responds to Samuels
Flame-haired all-rounder Stokes has had the chance to respond, saying he won't stop offering advice, even if it is spurring batsmen on.
"It's just the way I play cricket," said Stokes. "You get into a contest and you get fired up. I think people enjoy seeing that back home. There's a lot of passion and you can get fired up.
"We're not going to stop. We are all very aggressive cricketers. We're playing for our country and we'll be coming hard whoever it is. If Marlon wants to say something like that we're not going to stop."
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So what about this rumpus between Stokes and Samuels? For most of his innings, Marlon seemed barely awake, let alone interested in a verbal joust. Then, a part-Geordie, part-Kiwi volley from Stokes jolted Samuels into life, both with his gob and bat.
"It's obvious the English boys don't learn because whenever they talk to me I continue scoring runs," said Samuels at the close. "But they keep on talking.
"I guess they can't help it. I kept on telling him that but I probably have to tell him something different because he's not listening.
"He keeps talking to me but it keeps me motivated and keeps me batting."
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To make up some time for yesterday, we were due to begin at 14:45 BST, but rain is again falling in Grenada. The covers are on and there are no players to be seen. We won't be starting on time.
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Alan Compton: With the early wicket and the overhead conditions, England should have bowled them out yesterday. Too short, too many free runs.
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So, if we're considering opinions, they I want to hear yours. Did England miss a trick on day one, or should they be reasonably happy with their lot? And what about Samuels having a pop at their sledging after his handbags with Ben Stokes? Are you happy to see England showing some fire or are you fed up of their chatter? Text 81111, tweet using the hashtag #bbccricket or email tms@bbc.co.uk.
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The facts are as follows. The Windies will begin day two on 188-5, much better than their earlier 129-5 thanks to an unbeaten 94 from Samuels.
It could have been better for inconsistent England had they not dropped three catches and a return of five wickets in a day shortened to 70 overs was probably the minimum they wanted after choosing to field first.
All in all, pretty even, which is where we begin today.
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And there are plenty of opinions floating around on the first day of the second Test between West Indies and England in Grenada.
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I think that brings you right up up to speed, meaning I have nothing more to say on this second day of the second Test. Once more, we'll start a little early on Thursday, at 14:45 BST. The Grenada weather, however, may have other ideas.
See you then.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"I would not have brought Stuart Broad on the tour. You are under less pressure and scrutiny playing for your county and he could have got on figuring out his rhythm. His poor spells here are noticed because this is a Test match. I think you are better off with Plunkett, we cannot keep on going with four similar-paced bowlers."
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Away from the action on the pitch, it was a day for stories connected to the England team. Yorkshire's request for spinner Adil Rashid to return to England was rejected, while Chris Woakes has been ruled out for six weeks after knee surgery. Yet more strain on a thin England pace attack.
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David Hall: Have to be looking at getting 500 plus by lunch on day 4 and winning by an innings here, big game for England now.
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Close of play Scorecard
England 74-0
Not out batsmen: Cook 37, Trott 32
Bowling figures: Roach 6-1-21-0, Gabriel 4-1-16-0, Holder 6-2-20-0, Bishoo 7-2-16-0, Samuels 3-2-1-0
West Indies 299 all out
Fall of wickets: 1-2 (Brathwaite 1), 2-28 (Smith 15), 3-65 (Bravo 35), 4-74 (Chanderpaul 1), 5-129 (Blackwood 26), 6-223 (Samuels 103), 7-233 (Ramdin 31), 8-246 (Holder 22), 9-247 (Roach 1), 10-299 (Bishoo 30)
Bowling figures: Anderson 24-10-47-2, Broad 24-9-61-4, Jordan 25-4-65-2, Moeen 13.4-1-47-1, Stokes 17-7-66-1, Trott 1-0-2-0
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"Tomorrow it is help yourself and I think they will bat all day. England could be smart get around a lead of 80 and then try and bowl them out because you know their players will play a few shots. However, Cook does not like to take risks. Perhaps if England want to win they have to try something different."
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Cook needed some fortune, dropped at short leg off the leg-spin of Bishoo, but he and Trott remained as the light began to fade. In the end, their stand was pushed to 74, with the chance to register some big score still alive for tomorrow.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"It was a very good pitch for Cook and Trott. It is flat and slow and it doesn't bounce much. Cook played and missed around five times, Trott twice but sometimes you get a bit of luck. To be honest, the West Indies attack is not as good as a couple of the counties back at home. That is not Trott and Cook's fault. It is good for them and for England."
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And then, the tension. An England opening pair desperate for runs, Alastair Cook and Jonathan Trott feeling their way with the odd alarm. Cook, in particular, provided moments of concern outside off stump, but England's new-look first-wicket duo warmed to their task in the evening sunshine.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"For the first time we saw a really good spell from Stuart Broad. He bowled line and length and I am glad he got wickets. I do not think he will ever get over that surgery, but he could get back to his best."
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It was the final pair that frustrated England, Devandra Bishoo and Shannon Gabriel adding 52 entertaining runs. England became ragged, the Windies edged towards 300. In the end, Bishoo, who had shown the elegance of a Brian Lara, couldn't resist a swipe at Moeen Ali. All done for 299.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"England are in a very good position. Once Samuels got his hundred he did exactly what he did after he got 50. He just has a great swipe at it rather than trying to get another 30 or 40 runs. The tailenders were the entertaining bit, playing shots with straight and lofted drives."
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But Samuels' ton sparked a rash shot, which in turn began some good England bowling and a Windies slide. Stuart Broad got on one of his mini-rolls and his three wickets left the home side 247-9. England very happy.
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Once again, we have been frustrated by the weather, with long delays both before play and around lunch. That served to make Marlon Samuels to wait for a seventh Test hundred, which came after nearly 21 hours in the 90s.
Close of play
Eng 74-0
That will indeed be your lot, the end of a very good day for England. In fact, the only thing I can think of that hasn't gone to plan was that last-wicket stand between Bishoo and Gabriel. Either side, the tourists took regular wickets and then made an excellent start to their innings. At 74-0, they trail by 225 runs.
Bad light stops play
Eng 74-0
Umpires Oxenford and Davis decide it's too dark and the players march off. Officially, bad light has stopped play, but light rarely improves at this time of night, so I'm suspecting that will also be the close. At 74-0, Alastair Cook and Jonathan Trott will be two very happy men.
Eng 74-0 (225 behind)
The lightmeter comes out again, showing a reading that fluctuates between 7.8 and 7.9, whatever that means. Bruce Oxenford decides that we can continue, marching to square leg to allow Samuels to tempt Cook outside the off stump. Late in the day, we're rattling through the overs like never before, with a fourth catcher coming in to join the England skipper. One more over ticked down. Is that it?
Eng 74-0 (Cook 37, Trott 32)
Alastair Cook is in the ear of the umpire, telling him that the light was this bad when the players went off last night. The skipper is politely told that we remain on because the spinners are bowling. Why would England want to go off when Trott is hitting Bishoo's half-volleys for four? Maybe it's the light, but Trott then fails to pick a googly, leaving one that spins back sharply. Maybe that will have the umpires reconsidering...
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Jonny Brook: Is your website broken guys? It shows the runs scored, but you've clearly forgotten to keep us up to date with wickets fallen.
Eng 70-0 (24 overs)
With the spinners on, there's no reason for the light to intervene. It's hardly dangerous, so we might get all of the six overs that remain in the day. As a group of children fly a kite into the sunset on the hills surrounding the ground, Samuels, the off-spinner, comes round the wicket to Cook, with three catchers waiting. Pushed back. It's very dark out there. If the Windies wanted to get off, they'd loosen one of the quicks.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"Bishoo should have a nice good sleep tonight because he is going to have a lot of bowling to do tomorrow and probably the day after."
Eng 69-0 (Cook 37, Trott 27)
Yep, though Cook has had his problems against Bishoo, I'm certain he'd rather be facing spin at this time, rather than the pace bowlers probing his off-stump region. Bishoo drags down a long hop and is pulled for four, with this opening stand extending to 69.
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Paddy: Just over an hour left of my 23rd birthday. Best present of all would be for Cookie to be there at the close, ready to go big tomorrow.
Eng 65-0 (234 behind)
Marlon Samuels isn't in a rush, coming in to the attack for the first time, delivering the ball from the last bit of sunshine that lingers on the pitch. He walks in. just about turning his arm to deliver the nut. There's a certain element of going through the motions, to which this England opening pair will be delighted.
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Tom Radford: Oh look, a leg-spinner causing problems. Shame we don't have one of them. What's that? We do and are using him as a waiter?
Football Fragmento: Bishoo has looked useful. Shame England couldn't have tried Rashid as he might have gone well too.
Eng 65-0 (Cook 33, Trott 27)
Bishoo to whir through an over, whipping down his leg-breaks in the blink of an eye. A tidy maiden to Alastair Cook, a relief for the skipper, who has struggled against the leggy of late. We see the lightmeter for the first time today. It might not be long...
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England's Worst XI
Tom in Oxford: Presumably Hick and Ramps at 3 and 4? The pain still lingers.
Mike in Exeter: Paul Downton! My nomination for so many reasons. How somebody so average ever succeeds is beyond me, who were the selectors then?
Rob in Sunbury: Can I nominate John Emburey to captain the side as he got 60+ caps. Never quite understood why. Ashley Giles vice captain.
Eng 65-0 (234 behind)
The tall, athletic figure of Jason Holder breathes hard as he walks back to his mark under skies that remain blue. Jonathan Trott blinks in as much light as possible, then whips a leggy ball for a couple. A half-controlled edge then flies past third slip for four. England creeping along, nudging towards the close. It might not be long, depending on the light. In theory, there's nine overs to go.
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Michael Vaughan
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"I've not seen Alastair Cook hit it over midwicket that often but West Indies have a deep midwicket for him."
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Eng 57-0
Another chance? Another let-off for Cook? Hard to say, because it might have been a bump-ball. If it didn't bounce, then it flashed past slip, with Devon Smith only getting a thumb on it. Bishoo was again the bowler, a full ball being jammed down on by the England captain. Replays make it hard to tell if that was a bump ball or not. If it wasn't, that's two lives for the skipper.
Eng 53-0 (Cook 29, Trott 19)
England's new-look opening partnership has its first fifty stand, brought up by Jonathan Trott tickling Jason Holder fine for four. There is applause from a topless man who looks like he's had a bit too much sun. The whole ground is now covered in shadow are we are approaching the time when last night it became too dark for play.
Cook dropped on 27
Eng 47-0
Now then, has Alastair Cook just had the bit of luck he needs? He's put down at short leg in quite innocuous circumstances. Devandra Bishoo the bowler, Cook turns a full ball straight to Jermaine Blackwood, who doesn't react and sees it hit his ankle. I'm put in mind of Ravi Jadeja dropping Cook in the slips at Southampton last summer, a drop that might have saved Cook's job. Another bit of intrigue to this fascinating watch of two players searching for success.
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Mandip in Surrey: Neil Fairbrother has to be in the worst test XI. Cracking ODI player, but only played 10 tests and averaged a paltry 15.64.
Eng 45-0 (Cook 27, Trott 13)
The shadows are carrying out a two-pronged attack on the pitch, one from behind bowler Jason Holder, one from the square leg direction of leftie Cook. When Holder drops short, Cook unfurls out one his trademark pull shots, taking four straight of mid-wicket. Whisper it quietly, but...
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Tony Cozier
BBC Test Match Special
"There has just been a little lack of consistency from all of the bowlers in this Test match so far."
Eng 40-0 (15 overs)
Bishoo again has a little trouble drawing Trott forward, with the Warwickshire man looking to slide into the leg side. Now then, this is more like it. Full, bit of drift, Trott playing across it to be hit on the front pad. Big appeal, but turned down, probably quite rightly because it looked leggy. Still, better from Bishoo.
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Nick in Esher: Windies aren't bowling particularly well. Cooky and Trotty aren't having to play many. Nice way to ease themselves towards a pair of double centuries.
Jon: C'mon boys! Slow and steady, don't worry about the rate, just graft it out and bring that confidence back!
Eng 40-0 (259 behind)
The shadows creep a little further, the horns honk a little softer as Cook leans over his bat and waits for Holder. When he taps the ground, pictures taken by the stump cam shake, as if Grenada is being hit by a mini-earthquake. Cook, now with much more certainty around his off stump, watches a maiden.
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Former England all-rounder Andrew Flintoff: Last rant. 25 test hundreds !! 25 test hundreds !! He must be terrible at playing the full ball or when it moves away. #cook
Eng 40-0 (Cook 22, Trott 13)
Indeed it will be the leg-breaks of Devendra Bishoo, to be whipped down in the company of a short leg and slip. Short of stature and on length, Bishoo finally gets it right with the fifth ball, landing a loopy leg-break on Trott's off stump. No great turn, no great threat.
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England's Worst XI
Gary Dear: Can I nominate Chris Read for the worst XI? A very good county player but was woeful in the tests if memory serves.
Azizipeasie: David Capel gets the all rounder slot I should think.
Andy Plowright: Ian Salisbury as spinner. 20 wickets in 15 Tests.
Eng 38-0 (261 behind)
Alastair Cook sticks two fingers up at the umpire, not as an insult, but to check his guard as Holder switches the angle to round the wicket. The shadows lengthen, Cook casting his towards point. One from the over, the appearance of some helmets from the dressing room suggesting that we may be about to get some spin.
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Tez: Jerome Taylor not playing feels a lot like when McGrath was ruled out of the 2nd Ashes test in 2005. Just the luck we needed.
Jon Dunn: If Trott scratches his way to a couple of 30s in the remaining Tests, do we suddenly deem him ready to face Aus & the Mitchs'?
Eng 37-0 (Cook 21, Trott 11)
The players took drinks, with Kemar Roach returning with one of the worst deliveries you will see in Test cricket. A full toss, so wide wide can only just about reach it to take four through the covers. With that, he passes Alec Stewart's total of 8,463 runs to go second on England's all-time list. Only his mentor Graham Gooch is ahead on 8,900. Will Cook get the same fanfare as James Anderson?
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"The captain should get some control with Holder. I thought he bowled just a bit too wide in Antigua. He is the first West Indian bowler I have seen get a bit of swing so there is a bit of hope out there for him."
Eng 31-0 (268 behind)
I was asked earlier on about who would make it in to England's Worst XI if it was made of players who had at least 10 caps. I struggled. The first bowling change sees Jason Holder come on for Shannon Gabriel, wit the tall all-rounder immediately exploring Trott's off stump, occasionally getting too wide. The light is good, bright sunshine, but I'm hearing rumours that it may only last for another 40 minutes or so.
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Rick Chapman: Back to the good old days of dreading pressing refresh on my browser - only this time it's a rather fancy App.
John Higgins: I'd happily put up with tedious rain and every match drawn if Cook and Trott managed to rediscover their mojo.
Eng 31-0 (Cook 15, Trott 11)
Kemar Roach, shorter than your average fast bowler, scurries in to Alastair Cook, a gold chain around his neck leading the way. Cook has located his off stump and leaving anything that doesn't threaten, which turns out to be plenty of the over. When Roach is too short, Cook toe-ends a pull for a couple to earn whistles from the sparse crowd.
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Tony Cozier
BBC Test Match Special
"It was a surprise to everyone when Taylor was deemed unfit for the Test. No-one is sure if he will be fit for Barbados."
Eng 29-0 (270 behind)
This should be a good duel, the speedy Gabriel against Trott, a man perceived to have some problems against the very quickest. No need to play as Gabriel hangs it outside off stump, then a quick bumper is ducked. Well played. When Gabriel gets too full, Trott takes a couple through the covers. In the crowd, some young fun-seekers are dressed as characters from Baywatch. Travelling fans? Backpackers? Is there an England Test match anywhere in the world that doesn't have a group in fancy dress?
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Matt Hatcher: Cook and Trott, two of the most criticised and scrutinised batsman for England. Prove a few wrong boys and stick it to them.
Robert Boyce: Very impressed with Gabriel on this "slow" wicket, has he bowled less than 90mph yet!?
Eng 26-0 (run-rate 3.71)
Finally, Cook looks like a man warming to his task, lining up Roach well, watching the ball go through to the keeper. Collar up, backside pointing to the square leg umpire, Cook give the ground beneath him a good whack with the bat, then punches the ball back down the pitch to the bowler. In the stands, horns horn, bells bell, all while England continue their steady build.
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Richard Kent in Birmingham: Come on England! We need Alastair to get Cooking, Jonathan to get out of a bad Trott, Gary to give the top order some Ballance, Bell to get ringing, Joe to take Root, Ben to make sure he Stokes the fire in the middle order, Buttler to serve up something special, Stuart to play some Broad strokes, Chris to cross the Jordan and attack the other side, Mo to start Mowing over midwicket, and Jimmy to add some 'Andy runs at the end. Come on England - 500 runs at least!
Eng 26-0 (Cook 13, Trott 9)
There's also a shadow being cast by the stand at deep square leg as Cook takes strike to the pacey Gabriel, slowly creeping across the ground, engulfing the man who lurks on the hook. Cook continues to hop around, a man wrestling with himself, almost inventing a way to bat. "I used to be able to do this". Geoffrey Boycott once told me there are three decisions to make as a batsman. Play or leave? Attack or defend? Forward or back? Cook is like a man with about 33 other questions on his mind. Did I lock the back door? When is my car tax due? Do I really have to go to my wife's friend's wedding? Ultimately, though, he is surviving.
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Ben Lenyk: Couple of 50s for Cookie and Trott needed here. Confidence going in to the Ashes is a must.
Everything Sport: Come on Cook I have £50 on a century for you today!
Eng 25-0 (274 behind)
Some vintage Jonny Trotter sees him gobble up a leg-stump half-volley, taking four through mid-wicket. When Roach gets the line right, Trott is groping outside the off-stump once more. In fact, both of these batsmen are partial to a grope. It's a gropeathon. In the best weather of the Test so far, rare shadows are being cast by all 15 men on the field. It's a lovely evening in Grenada.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"Cook has just got to hang around in there. He did not get any runs for the MCC or in the first Test but it may all slot into place if he can just hang in."
Eng 20-0 (Cook 12, Trott 5)
Gabriel has abandoned the the baffling round-the-wicket ploy and is back over in bright sunshine and with a soundtrack of horns. Still bowling with wheels, Gabriel goes past the outside edge twice, the second time Cook jumping and poking like a fencer on a trampoline. TV pictures show spectators at the bar, supping a dark liquid from posh glasses. We'd all like to be there.
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Ed Stockton: If Cook makes it past 20 I'll buy twitter a round.
Jay: England scoring at over 6 runs per over? In a Test Match? The world has got to be ending.
Paul Cave: Trott looks like Angus Fraser batting against Michael Holding in his prime.
Eng 20-0 (279 behind)
It's not just Alastair Cook who is needs a score and a bit of certainty around the off dolly, Jonathan Trott could do with knowing where his posh stump is. (It's the one on the left). Roach goes full, drawing an airy drive, with Trott happy to see an inside edge fly past the stumps and to fine leg for four. An England opening stand is more cringe-worthy than an episode of Peep Show. Hide behind the sofa.
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Christophe Talbotski: This is the innings for a Cook century. Guaranteed or pick me a forfeit.
Rachel T: Now come on Alastair. Any old lucky, scratchy, hanging-by-your fingernails century will do!
Anante Jariwala: I have a good feeling about Cooky's innings today.
Eng 16-0 (Cook 12, Trott 1)
Shannon Gabriel, in the side for the injured Jerome Taylor, shares the new ball, boosted by his efforts with the bat. All leg and little trunk, we expect him to have some gas. There you have it, 92.6mph, the fastest ball of the match so far. Cook, as certain around off stump as a man groping for the light switch in the dark, tentatively angles between the slips and gully for four as Gabriel keeps the clock above 90. When Gabriel comes round the wicket, Cook pulls for four with much more authority.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"Maybe I should not be thinking of Australia and their quicker bowlers but if Trott is playing as an opener and they bowl like they did in the World Cup then they will not let him get forward."
Eng 4-0 (295 behind)
Eeessshhh, Cook is beaten twice in the first three balls in exactly the area that every bowler in the world knows to bowl at him. Full, on or around off stump. Pokey, pokey, play and missy. Just an observation, but his stance looks much more open that it used to be, with his body more chest-on to the bowler. If anything, that would add to his problems outside off stump, making it harder to get across to the ball. Anyway, he clips a full ball through the leg side and takes three.
Eng 0-0
Alastair Cook is scratching away at his guard, Kemar Roach is marking out his run. At the non-striker's end, Jonathan Trott is doing some gardening. Three slips and a gully wait. The tension begins...
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Jon Dunn: What odds on a hundred plus England opening partnership? Big, I imagine.
Rich Adams: Cook knows he's under pressure, he knows runs are a must, the self doubt must be huge. It's time to lead AC.
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That scorecard entry has me in mind of how much fun it is to look at old scorecards, from every level of the game (I don't care if that makes me sound sad). They are moments in time, a snapshot of the state of a team. They also throw up some excellent questions. Why did Morne Morkel open the batting in that Test match? How did Aftab Habib manage to play for England? You know the type. Who hasn't spent hours leafing through Playfair or Wisden and taking in old scorecards? Wonderful.
End-of-innings scorecard
West Indies 299 all out
Fall of wickets: 1-2 (Brathwaite 1), 2-28 (Smith 15), 3-65 (Bravo 35), 4-74 (Chanderpaul 1), 5-129 (Blackwood 26), 6-223 (Samuels 103), 7-233 (Ramdin 31), 8-246 (Holder 22), 9-247 (Roach 1), 10-299 (Bishoo 30)
Bowling figures: Anderson 24-10-47-2, Broad 24-9-61-4, Jordan 25-4-65-2, Moeen 13.4-1-47-1, Stokes 17-7-66-1, Trott 1-0-2-0
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David: Were the West Indies tail just really good or were Englands bowlers poor? I'm not sure.
Marko Koning: England's batsmen under pressure. Has number four in the batting-order already his boots on?
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It seems like a long time ago that England won the toss and chose to bowl, doesn't it? Thanks to some rain, some inconsistent bowling and no little Windies resistance, England have needed the best part of two days for the chance to put the mums and dads on. How good a score is 299? We're about to find out. Initially, all of the pressure will be on the under-fire England openers.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"With Gabriel and Roach if they don't bowl well they will get clattered. Unless somebody bowls really badly then it is going to be a really hard graft. I think England can make a fist of it and it will be disappointing if they do not."
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Joseph: I once met Mr Bishoo on a plane to the Carribean and had a few drinks with him. He was convinced that he was an all rounder. I thought it was the drink talking, but clearly not!
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BBC Radio Test Match Special
On Test Match Special during the tea interval, you can hear from Derbyshire wicketkeeper Tom Poynton, who is returning from a year out of the game because of injuries sustained in a car crash that killed his father.
The impressive young man was talking to our very own Sam Sheringham.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"It was a brilliant effort by the batsman. I said last night that if they got 300 then they would have batted well. We saw Broad bowl very well in moments today."
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Bishoo lbw Moeen 30 (WI 299 all out)
That'll do, England can finally have a bat. Umpire's call for point of impact and line, but enough vindication for Bruce Oxenford to give Devandra Bishoo the finger for the second time. West Indies are 299 all out, thanks in no small part to that very handy last-wicket partnership of 52. We'll take tea, then all eyes on Mssrs Cook and Trott.
Umpire review
WI 299-9
No bat...
Umpire review
WI 299-9
Is the torture over? Bishoo sweeping Moeen. Looks out and is good enough for Bruce Oxenford. Up goes the finger. Bishoo, enjoying himself, wants another look.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"Fantastic batting. Tail-enders getting bat to ball and taking some risks."
WI 298-9 (Bishoo 30, Gabriel 19)
Last-wicket partnerships are the best thing ever if they are for your team and more annoying than Alan Carr if they go against you. England have done so much right in this afternoon session, but Gabriel and Bishoo are now making them look a bit village. Chris Jordan serves up a long half-volley and the left-handed Bishoo, batting like David Gower, languidly lofts over mid-off for four. Next ball, up and over the covers. Bishoo's highest Test score, 50 partnership. All very silly.
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Zigzag: These last wicket partnerships vs England are becoming a regular thing. Time to pick Plunkett just to clear up the tail?
Andy Compton: Which is more likely - a goal in the CL Madrid derby or England getting a tenth wicket?
Matt Wilkinson: England's inability to bowl out a tail showing again! This partnership is costly!
WI 290-9 (Bishoo 22, Gabriel 19)
The skipper's solution is to turn to Moeen Ali, in the hope of enticing the big shot with some off-spin. It nearly works as well, as Gabriel aims a big heave at the first ball and is lucky not to see it disturb his timbers. But the rest of the over he is more resolute, and with England still groping for a breakthrough, I'm going to hand you back to Stephan Shemilt...
WI 289-9 (Jordan 26-4-57-2)
Gabriel gets a life when he slices an attempted drive and it lands just short of Stuart Broad at mid-off. The wheels aren't quite coming off yet for England, but the wheel-nuts are certainly coming loose a little as a tired-looking Chris Jordan sprays one down the leg side. Then Bishoo plays another great shot, easing the ball through the covers. Problems to solve for Alastair Cook...
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Rob Carter: Reading the live feed from over in the US between meetings I have to wonder what Americans would make of Mr Boycott. I cannot think of another broadcaster anywhere in the world, in any other sport that gives you analysis like he does.
WI 285-9 (partnership 38)
Shannon Gabriel beats his highest Test score, and equals his best first-class knock of 16, with a four dragged wide of mid-on. And then Bishoo unfurls an absolutely sumptuous shot, creamed through mid-off with exquisite hands. Ben Stokes, who kept Marlon Samuels tied down yesterday, is taking some real tap from numbers 10 and 11 here.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"I think they will be delighted to have got so close to 300, especially after the movement of the ball yesterday morning."
WI 275-9 (Bishoo 14, Gabriel 12)
Jordan oversteps for a new ball. This partnership is now worth 27 and counting - real nuisance value for England.
Not out
WI 274-9
Nope, pitched outside leg. The frustration continues for England...
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Chris Jordan hits Bishoo on the pad, the umpire says no, and Alastair Cook gambles with a review...
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"I thought Alastair Cook was going to bring Moeen Ali on and he has instead turned to Ben Stokes. With the way these two are batting Moeen should be on. Some of the responsibility must also be placed on Mooen's shoulders. He should be badgering Cook right now telling him to put him on - that he will get him that last wicket. I keep bleating on about it but it is quite obvious on to me right now that the spinner should be on against two tail-enders."
WI 273-9 (Stokes 16-7-56-1)
It's a double change in the bowling, with Ben Stokes replacing James Anderson. The Durham man deserves a second wicket for my money - he's bowled very well at times in this innings.
Get a load of this from number 10 Devendra Bishoo - he stands tall and punches Ben Stokes down to the boundary at mid-off, with a flourishing follow-through for good measure, then he plays the same shot and collects three more. West Indies are advancing towards a competitive score here.
WI 262-9
Chris Jordan replaces Stuart Broad - the Nottinghamshire man's quest for a five-for is over, at least for now. Shannon Gabriel pokes a single to deep square.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"I hope the England players do not feel like they have been out there for as long as they have. Usually when you have been out there for this long it means you are 500 or so behind but they are not. You hope that they go out with a positive mindset and go and get themselves 200 ahead."
WI 261-9 (Bishoo 6, Gabriel 8)
Bishoo prolongs the wait for Alastair Cook and Jonathan Trott with a maiden off Anderson's latest over. We think that tea will be taken if England get a wicket now.
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James Cox: Broad at 85mph = Broad at his best.
Mark: Broad bowling much better today, it's so frustrating that he can't do it consistently.
Luke Swales: Keep the criticism of Broad coming folks! Always proves people wrong.
WI 261-9 (Broad 24-9-61-4)
Broad is so often the lightning rod for criticism of England's bowling performances but he's bowled superbly in this spell. Can he finish this off and get himself on the honours board at the Grenada National Stadium? Not yet he can't - Gabriel picks up a length ball and thumps it over cow corner for six.
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Michael Dickie: Win becoming a possibility? Bowl them out tonight, bat for 2 days then skittle them on the last day? You never know.
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"It was a weak throw from Broad's right. That had run-out written all over it, Gabriel is a bit of a lumberer."
WI 254-9
Jonathan Trott stands in the slips - his heart must be fluttering like a golfer's trousers in a stiff wind, the last thing the opener needs here in a frustrating last-wicket stand. Bishoo gets off the mark with an absolutely magnificent square drive off Jimmy Anderson - four all the way. Off the last ball, there's a dreadful mix-up and Bishoo is nearly run out.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"It has been a good hour for England. Well done Stuart Broad he has bowled quite nicely in this spell."
WI 248-9 (Bishoo 0, Gabriel 1)
Shannon Gabriel is the new man, and he's away with a single to long leg.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"I'm sure it's close, but why wouldn't you review that? Ah, it's because he's been caught. Big inside edge, caught at fourth slip. Broad now has 4-53, it was only an hour ago that we were talking about him not being right. He will have a huge confidence boost."
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Roach c Root b Broad 1 (WI 247-9)
This is turning into a great session for England, who are running through the West Indies lower order courtesy of a fine spell from Stuart Broad. He picks up his fourth when Kemar Roach inside-edges a inswinger onto his pads and the looping ball is pouched by Joe Root at gully.
Woakes has surgery
Ever wanted to read a statement from the ECB? Here's one about Chris Woakes...
"The ECB medical team confirms that England and Warwickshire bowler Chris Woakes underwent uncomplicated keyhole surgery on his left knee for a meniscal tear earlier today. The injury occurred while undergoing rehab for his foot injury. His rehab is likely to take a further four to six weeks."
WI 247-8
What do Roach and Bishoo, neither of them proficient attacking batsmen, try to do here? Do they look to block and frustrate the England bowlers, or with a sub-par score on the board and not much batting to come, do they play a few shots and try and add a few runs? At the moment, resistance seems to be the preferred option - Bishoo blocks out a maiden from Anderson.
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Mark Rookes: Broad finally bowls three overs of decent line and length, just a pity it only happens ever three/four Tests!
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WI 247-8 (Broad 22-9-53-3)
If Stuart Broad can claim these last two wickets, his reward will be a 13th Test five-for. At the moment, he's bowling just a touch fuller than he has done thus far in this series and looking dangerous. He sends one whistling just past Kemar Roach's off pole, and it's time for drinks.
WI 247-8 (Roach 1, Bishoo 0)
Devendra Bishoo is the new man. Down the other end, Kemar Roach gets off the mark with a single into the covers.
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"Broad has run in so much better in this spell. It was an important one for him because he was below his bets yesterday and down on pace in Antigua."
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"It was good bowling. Holder was waiting for the short ball and Broad got him driving, playing away from the body. The West Indies are finding the second new ball tricky to play."
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Holder c Buttler b Broad 22 (WI 246-8)
The Broad mojo is well and truly back! Holder's reprieve is a brief one as he pokes forward at a scrambled-seam delivery that nibbles away off the track and takes the edge. Jos Buttler is catching them like a lizard gobbling flies at the moment.
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Matthew D: That was a catch. Went straight in to Ali's fingers. Jason Holder, what a lucky chap!
Jon Dunn: The fingers are under the ball, but the ball touches the grass. What do the laws say?
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Tony Cozier
BBC Test Match Special
"The Australians did away with this in their domestic competition. They worked out that every decision that went to the replay, something like 94% were ruled not out."
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"That's ridiculous. How many of these do we have to see?"
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WI 240-7
If you watch a lot of cricket, you'll be well aware that these sorts of decisions rarely go the fielder's way, and I'm afraid it's the same old story here. The camera doesn't show daylight between ball and ground, and Holder survives.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"I'm pretty sure he's taken this. It's gone straight into the fingers, which are under the ball."
Third umpire
WI 240-7
Jason Holder tries to slap Stuart Broad into the leg side and Moeen Ali, running forward from mid-wicket, says he's got his fingers underneath it. Holder ain't moving though, and the umpires decide to send it upstairs...
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Will in Horsham: England are a thoroughly unlikeable team and their attitude of not applauding Samuels typifies their approach to sportsmanship. I hope whoever takes charge of this much needed shake up of our national team, not only teaches them how to play cricket but also teaches them some manners and respect!
WI 240-7 (Holder 15, Roach 0)
Long levers. Jason Holder has them, and he's not afraid to use them to terrific effect - freeing his spidery arms and swatting Anderson over the ropes at mid-wicket. He tries the same stroke again, but the ball is too wide for the shot this time and he's lucky not to get a snick through to Jos Buttler.
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Jonathan France: Great to see Broad charging in at 91mph for the wicket of Ramdin. Where has this Stuart Broad been for the last 12 months?
David: Now then Stuart Broad, if you bowled 91mph deliveries like that on a regular basis, I might not be so critical.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"It's been a decent spell from Broad. I always think his bowling is so much more effective when he's up above 85mph. Yes, it's hard on the body, but when he's down at 82, 83, there's nothing on it."
WI 233-7
That wicket ball from Stuart Broad was clocked at 91mph - not too shabby for a man whose pace has been questioned in the wake of his recovery from knee problems. Kemar Roach, who frustrated England in Antigua, blocks out the rest of the over - a wicket maiden.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"That was a beautiful delivery, as good as we've seen. Perfect line and length, just outside off stump. He was trying to forward but couldn't got stuck on the crease and it left him ever so slightly. hat's as good as it gets."
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Ramdin c Buttler b Broad 31 (WI 233-7)
Are West Indies unravelling here? They lose their second linchpin in a matter of minutes. Stuart Broad sends down an absolute beauty on a fourth-stump line, just nipping away a fraction off the pitch, and Ramdin is too late in withdrawing his bat. Jos Buttler gleefully accepts the edge.
WI 233-6 (Anderson 19-8-33-2)
We saw in Antigua that Jason Holder can play some lovely, straight-batted shots and his first boundary here is no exception: back foot, full face of the blade, pushed back past Jimmy Anderson's toes. He nearly gets another one, but Anderson sticks out a leg to make a boundary-saving tackle, meeting the ball with impeccable timing. The Burnley Baresi?
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Tony Cozier
BBC Test Match Special
"The point I made about Samuels earlier was that, when he gets to a hundred, he would relax because he had to work so hard to get there. That's what happened the last time he got a ton, against South Africa."
WI 226-6 (Ramdin 30, Holder 3)
Holder, tall and correct, connects sweetly with a trademark, high-elbowed extra-cover drive but the ball is well fielded by Moeen Ali. A second straight maiden for Broad, who has found a fuller, more testing length.
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Ed Smith
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"This is a different sort of test for Jason Holder. There were no demons in Antigua. Here, it's muggy and humid with a ball only five overs old. It will be an examination of his technique if England bowl well."
WI 226-6
The great Clive Lloyd was up in the stands, watching that shot from Marlon Samuels. You could almost see the steam coming out of the big man's ears. It was a terrific innings from Samuels, but if you were being critical you might say that the final stages of his knock smacked of a man playing for his century, not for his team. Holder is off the mark with two past backward point.
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Karl: It takes something to go over and beyond a century, just ask Sir Geoff.
WI 223-6 (Broad 18-6-47-1)
Jason Holder, who made that terrific, match-saving century in Antigua, is the new batsman. He batted well in partnership with Denesh Ramdin on that day and here they are, together again. Ramdin blocks out an accurate, probing over from Broad.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"He's a mercurial individual. That was very airy-fairy, he played poor shots after he got to 50, too. It was a good ball and he didn't move his feet. More times than not, you'll get out to that. It's a silly, pointless thing to do after you've grafted for all that time. You wonder what goes on between his ears."
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Samuels c Bell b Anderson 103 (WI 223-6)
He had shown the patience of a saint. After his century it was more like an unholy rush to get on with it. Samuels is fortunate to miss with one attempted whack at an Anderson delivery, but his second big shot finds the edge and squirts into the hands of Ian Bell at second slip. All over - and not without some parting words for Samuels from the England fielders.
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Ed Smith
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"It's fair to say that England haven't rushed to applaud the hundred. They should have done better than that."
100 for Samuels
WI 223-5
It's there! Marlon Samuels rather nervously chases a Jimmy Anderson delivery and manages to flip it just over the slip cordon and away for four. But what a superb effort from the Jamaican, who has shown the patience of a saint in this innings. Or at least...
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"At the moment, this Test doesn't look healthy for a result, unless something inexplicable happens."
WI 219-5 (Samuels 99, Ramdin 30)
Samuels moves on to 99 with a nudge to fine leg. Nearly there, Marlon. Ramdin, who has batted beautifully in very awkward, intermittent circumstances, latches onto a short n' wide one from Broad and slashes it to the point fence.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"More than the rain, the sweating under the covers is the problem. That's what might make the ball do a little, too."
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Rejoice. Cricket is back. Stuart Broad has the ball, and Marlon Samuels, who has been stuck in the 90s longer than a die-hard Supergrass fan, is on strike...
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On a serious note, we have now lost a serious amount of time out of this game. Are England's chances of claiming that coveted first Test win since 2012 receding into the distance? Or can some explosive bowling, or perhaps some inventive captaincy from Alastair Cook, still force a result?
Less good news
The restart has been delayed until 19:00 BST due to a still soggy outfield. Patience, patience...
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Television showing pictures of Adam Lyth keeping busy by offering throwdowns to a suhatted Ben Stokes. Lyth sporting an impressive corona of stubble on his bald head - almost Zidane-esque, that...
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Eight minutes left until play resumes. If the rain holds off, we could be in for a long session, so fix your dinner now. You haven't got long mind - think boiled egg rather than chicken chasseur...
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Alec Smith: I was hungover this morning and I put it all down to Broad not bowling at the stumps yesterday. #britishhumbugs
Good news
Play is due to resume at 18:50 BST. I can't promise it won't be raining again by then. But we live in hope.
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News to bring you on Adil Rashid - the spinner will not be returning home to play county cricket, as his side Yorkshire had requested.
Rashid was not picked for this match, but is apparently in contention to play in the third Test of the series in Bridgetown - so the ECB have turned down Yorkshire's application to release him.
Rashid, no doubt, will be crestfallen to have to travel on to Barbados rather than returning home to take on Warwickshire in sunny Leeds.
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Harry Shawyer: Rain stopping play in Grenada. No doubt this will be blamed on Moores/Cook/ECB management.
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Poor old Marlon Samuels. He'd have reckoned on bringing up his century last night as he cantered through the latter part of his innings to reach 94 not out, then those dastardly English fielders decided to come off for bad light.
No matter, Marlon would have thought, I'll knock them off in the morning - but no sooner had he got to 97 than the rain came down. Still, he'd have said to himself as he sat down to lunch, plenty of time in the afternoon session - but just one run later, he's back in the pavilion again.
Samuels is a pretty cool customer, but even he must be getting a little antsy by now. He must have worked his way through more chewing gum than Fergie in the 1999 Champions League final by now...
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Jeff Dujon
Former West Indies wicketkeeper
"It was a lot of fun to see the effect our fast bowlers had on other players - I was lucky to play in a team with some fierce players. I did not end up doing what I really wanted to do, I never wanted to be a wicketkeeper. At the beginning of my cricket career, in college, I hated bowling and I found fielding very boring so I tried my hand wicketkeeping. Primarily I was a batsman and the wicketkeeping side of it was an asset I had in situations when things were tight between me and another player. I went to Australia as a back-up wicketkeeper and played my first two Test as a batsman but then the wicket-keeper broke his finger and I got my chance. As time went on I got better at keeping to real genuine fast bowling."
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Mark Savile: I know rules are rules but it was dry for whole lunch, should have been playing. Modern attitude needed or audiences will fall.
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I'm told that it's looking unpromisingly overcast out in Grenada, leaden clouds rolling in over the volcanic hills. I fear we could be off for a while here. Let's just say if it was Wimbledon, they'd be rifling through the video archives in search of the 1980 McEnroe-Borg final right about now...
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"He is a very good player but he does not endear himself to the opponents. I saw his press conference yesterday where he said he was going to get 150 - and I have seen twice where he has done well after he has been wound up."
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"I think last night - whether it was the Stokes confrontation or not - Samuels seemed to decide as a senior player that he needed to get going and I think he played the situation right."
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Tony Cozier
BBC Test Match Special
"Marlon Samuels has had a chequered career in West Indies cricket. He has had one or two situations which I think has played on his mind. He has had some ups and downs but that has not stopped him from being him. He doesn't feel that certain bowlers should bowl to him and he plays big shots and gets out."
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Jay: Good. Now they can have the dessert that they didn't have time for during the lunch break.
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This is all a but silly, isn't it? The rain wasn't falling for 40 minutes while the players were eating lunch, and now, as soon as we get started again, down it comes again. What were the umpires thinking? Surely in this sort of humidity, any chance to play while the skies are clear has to be taken...
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"This is just the cricketing god mocking the umpires for taking an early lunch and not playing when the skies were clear."
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Ed Smith
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"Sadly I think there is worse still to come. It is very disappointing for England, the West Indies and the spectators. It looks like it's going to be set in for at least half an hour."
Rain stops play
And with that, the rain comes down, the groundsmen come on, and the players come off. We've had seven balls after lunch, and we're back in the sheds again...
New ball
WI 214-5
You don't envy Marlon Samuels here. England have taken the new ball with Samuels three away from his ton and the rain, I'm afraid to say, looming ominously again. He errs on the side of caution, just working Jimmy Anderson for a single.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"I feels like yesterday morning when it was muggy and I expect this ball to hoop around. England need to strike now, they have got to get the ball up there and swinging."
WI 213-5 (Samuels 97, Ramdin 26)
This session, we're hearing, will be a two-and-a-half hour job, finishing at 20:10 BST. Ben Stokes finishes off the one ball remaining in his over, and Chris Jordan will bowl the first full over after lunch. Marlon Samuels is looking a little edgy as he creeps towards three figures, dangling the bat hesitantly at a swinging delivery outside off. Good over from Jordan, just a leg bye from it, and the new ball is available...
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Wonder how well Marlon Samuels lunched? He's bound to have a few butterflies in that stomach, as he contemplates the three runs he needs to reach a seventh Test hundred. Will he get there? Let's find out...
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Tricky Dicky: Aren't the selectors missing an opportunity as usual? This is not the Windies team of the 70's and 80's. They are not a top side. We have passed up an opportunity to look at the likes of Mark Wood, Adil Rashid, Adam Lyth etc. What are we going to learn about Stuart Broad? We have bigger tests to come in the shape of New Zealand and the Aussies. When do these guys get a chance if not in this series? We won't beat the Aussies if we don't find better players.
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Meanwhile - and you may not want to hear this - while we wait for the clouds to part and the cricket to resume in Grenada, there's an IPL match going on in Bengaluru.
AB De Villiers, Virat Kohli, Brendon McCullum, Mitchell Starc, MS Dhoni and Suresh Raina are all in action as Royal Challengers Bangalore take on Chennai Super Kings, and the only precipitation over there is raining sixes - Chennai are 177-7 after 19 overs of their innings.
But you don't want to watch that wham-bam nonsense, do you? I know we can count on you to stick with the sophisticated subtleties of Test match cricket.
You're still there right? Guys? Guys?!
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Thank you Stephan, and greetings to you all on a day that so far has been mainly about lunch and the weather - much like an awkward lift conversation with a work colleague who you don't usually talk to.
I'm hoping to take you through an uninterrupted afternoon session of scintillating sunshine and scintillating cricket. Come on, this is the West Indies. It can't be too much to ask, can it?
Weather latest
BBC Weather's Jacob Cope: "This rain shouldn't last long with sunshine returning soon but there are more showers out there. Hopefully they'll miss St George's. Thursday looks drier and sunnier but then Friday may bring thunderstorms. Top temperatures will be around 28°C."
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Right, despite the lack of action, this has been good fun. It's time for me to clear off, with James Gheerbrant coming in soon to talk you through the afternoon session... hopefully.
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Marc Fulcher: Must admit I'm one of the guilty party for the sneaky emails at work...head down at the desk quickly jotting down a few notes to the TMS team, making out I'm busy compiling emails for "business".
Jonathan Swithinbank: How the tables have turned, I was 13 and actually at the game when Alex Tudor stranded himself on 99, now I'm the one grabbing glances at the BBC's live text and unable to watch it!
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Ben: This must be the only sport in the world where time is lost because the players need to eat at a set time!
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BBC Radio Test Match Special
So, lunch is about to be taken. Please, please don't ask me why they schedule a 40-minute break when the players have already been off for half an hour, because we'll all get frustrated together.
Anyway, during the interval, Test Match Special will be playing the second part of James Anderson: The Wicket Man. Tune in, because it's a roaringly good listen.
County Championship latest
Listen up, KP watchers. Your man has been back in action today, and he's hit his first fifty of the County Championship season, scoring an unbeaten 53 before Surrey declared on 207-4 in their second innings against Glamorgan to set the hosts a target of 352. Glamorgan are going well though - they're 112-0.
In Division One, it looks like a draw is in prospect in Birmingham. Warwickshire, chasing 379 to beat Hampshire, are currently 203-4. Varun Chopra is five runs short of a century.
Nottinghamshire v Yorkshire is also heading for a draw. Trailing by 13 runs on the first innings, they are 351-7 in their second dig, with Chris Read unbeaten on 81.
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Seb Horner: Poor Samuels - got me wondering though, what's the longest total time taken to reach a 100, including delays, end of plays etc?
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Rob in Bristol: Geoffrey Boycott needs to relax, we are a team in the midst of rebuilding and we have enough talent to make things happen. Does anyone remember the improvement England showed after the 2002/3 Ashes and how we improved to the point we beat Australia at home in 2005? Be patient and let our boys find their feet.
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Martin: A Test series away in the West Indies should have been an ideal opportunity to blood one or two. We need an answer to our opening batsmen problems and if Cook has not fired up by the start of the Ashes are we going to drop him just as we did for the World Cup? I feel sure the Aussies will beat us in all departments unless we start looking at what else is out there!
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I'm hearing a rumour that the rain has stopped, but lunch is being taken at 17:00. Play will resume 40 minutes after that. We are in for a long old evening.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"If it was left to me I would completely disassociate one-day and Test cricket. There may be a few players that played both but I would move away from our current thinking that there is a link between Test and one-day cricket and you build from the top. It was proved in the World Cup that it does not work. I would pick young players like Jason Roy - exciting players who know how to smack the ball. Then you do not need to rest Test players because they are not playing so much cricket."
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John: Many years ago, when I was in the Army, I was an office manager who would set up a small black and white TV in my office to watch the home test matches, no sound of course, and I would get regular 'checks' of the score by the Commanding Officer, either by telephone or by making an excuse to come down and see me. His name, Lt Col Ashton-Wickett RA, how appropriate.
Elsewhere in world cricket...
Bangladesh are closing in on a third straight win against Pakistan in their ODI series. Azhar Ali's tourists were bowled out for 250 batting first, and in reply the hosts have raced to 225-2 after 37 overs, with Soumya Sarkar hitting his maiden ODI ton, bringing up the milestone with a straight six.
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Wondering why we're not talking about the live action? It's raining again in Grenada, with no sign of a let-up. We've been off for about 20 minutes, having had only 8.5 overs after the start was delayed for an hour. In that time, West Indies pushed their score along to 210-5.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"The intention was to rest players for this Test series. I can prove it if need be. Then people started to worry about their jobs from Paul Downton to Moores and Cook and they changed their minds after a dismal World Cup. I would not have changed my mind. As well as resting bodies and minds of players ahead of a heavy schedule against New Zealand and Australia, you could test certain other players."
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Robin: I challenge anyone to beat this set up! TMS one screen, work emails on the other.
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"You could have tried Lyth up top with Cook and kept Trott at three. You have young Taylor who has been on the fringes and Rashid - all of them could have been tried. You do not learn a lot sat on your backside in the dressing room. You did not need to bring Moeen Ali here, you could have tried the other spinners. There were so many options."
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"England know that the middle order is set, that there are troubles at the top of the order and are starting to realise there is an over-reliance on Anderson and Broad. They will be hoping that the English conditions that they are used to will get them firing but I am not so sure. It is what they do not know that is more worrying."
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Neil, I'm delighted that you have reminded me that there is always someone somewhere in the world sitting at their desk. If you're in the UK, get yourself off home - you've earned an early cut. Keep following us on your phone. If you're in the Americas, it's time for you to get involved. Aussies/Kiwis, I'll deal with you later.
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Neil Shilladay: Re 16:30: Alas no. On the west coast of Canada, we are just starting work. (8:30 am since you ask). Was looking forward to a nice morning / afternoon following the 2nd test.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"In England, the Ashes wickets will be slower and they will turn because of the drainage at the ground. It will blunt Mitchell Johnson, but not Mitchell Starc."
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Rob Mac: I have simply booked a meeting room for "Personal Development Planning" all afternoon. TMS sound and text all to myself and I look very diligent and progressive!
Richard Phillips: I just keep the screen open on the text commentary with the screen maximized at all times. Why? Because this is cricket and work is work. Work needs to learn not to get in the way and if the boss don't like it…I know he's doing exactly the same thing anyway. Why don't people get bosses who like cricket?
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So, more rain. Another game of office cricket? See if you can cram 30 minutes of work in before home time? Knock off early?
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"The lack of penetration worries me. Making batsmen make mistakes - I have not seen a lot of that. If Australia's bowlers bowled on this pitch would they make the batsman play more and get more opportunities? The answer is yes. If we play this way against Australia at home then there will be hell to pay."
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I think that is a touch harsh, Swanny. England bowled reasonably well for my money, at least finding a fuller length. The Windies have been up to the task in defence, even if Marlon Samuels has gone in to his shell.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"This morning has been dull. England have bowled too wide. It is a bit of a worry that Stokes and Jordan do not look as penetrative as you would like. I may be being a bit harsh - it is a dead pitch but there was some swing this morning."
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WI 210-5
Yep, the rain we knew was coming has arrived. The umpires pull the stumps from the ground, the staff pull the blue cover on, the players rush to the sanctuary of the dressing room. They wouldn't be off if they were playing at Old Trafford.
WI 210-5
This ground is entirely surrounded by hills, pretty much lying in a valley. The clouds gather on high, then swoop in to dump their rain on the square. Billy the Barmy Army trumpeter plays the Hokey Cokey, perhaps in tribute to the way that the covers have been on and off for the first two days. Ramdin drives Stokes through down the ground, and then...
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Geoffrey Boycott
Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special
"It has been a fairly predictable morning. There is a big danger if you try to score too quickly when the ball is not there to hit you will get out. It happened with Samuels yesterday after he got to his 50 where he had a few wild swipes. He is getting frustrated right now trying to get his 100. I said before that patience is not his thing - he played well before his 50 yesterday, then lost his patience and then got it back towards the end."
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Tony Cozier
BBC Test Match Special
"You can feel that there is rain in the air and I wonder if this will play on Samuels's mind."
WI 204-5 (Samuels 97, Ramdin 18)
Still good from Jordan, who has repeatedly bowled a full length that often eluded England yesterday. Samuels continues his slow march towards a ton - a single takes him to 97. The more important action may be off the pitch, mind. Clouds are gathering atop the surrounding hills, the groundstaff are donning their yellow waterproofs and manning the covers.
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John in Hereford: The alt tab shortcut can catch you out if you happen to have multiple incriminating windows open at work. However, if you press the windows key and tab you get a far more aesthetically pleasing view of your windows, making selection much easier.
Paul in Leicester: I'm on the live text whilst writing the penultimate essay of my degree in the University library. So nobody will tell me off for not working, it's just I will end up staying here all night...
WI 199-5 (Stokes 14-7-37-1)
Stokes asks for some sawdust to be spread on the popping crease, where he his leading his front foot. That front foot, his left, has a boot in which a space is cut out of the front, alleviating the pressure that goes through every time he slams his body through the delivery stride. A decent over to Samuels, full, with the would-be centurion still watchful. A maiden. Still no repeat of the verbals, either. They've slept on the row and are now just indifferent towards each other.
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Tony Cozier
BBC Test Match Special
"It has been an interesting morning. The West Indies have looked like to me that they wanted to continue as they were playing last night - both Samuels and Ramdin - and they have played a few shots but haven't got many runs."
WI 199-5 (76 overs)
Samuels was on the charge last evening, but has been kept on a tight leash this morning. A touch of the nervous 90s? Jordan goes very full and screams for lbw, turning to the umpire with arms wide and mouth agog. Two noises and leggy, so not much going for it. When Jordan errs again, Samuels picks him off to move to 96. After that review from the first ball of the day, the Windies have come through a swinging storm quite well. Four overs until the new ball.
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Edmund Tapfield: The Windows-D shortcut leaves you with a blank desktop, which looks distinctly suspicious. Might I suggest having a complicated-looking spreadsheet open in another window, and hitting Alt-Tab instead?
Evan Byrne: I'm keeping up with the text commentary on my mobile phone in the office in Piemonte - looks like a message for work and the screen goes blank after a few seconds anyway, so no-one can see it. Easy.
WI 198-5 (Samuels 95, Ramdin 14)
There's at least one member of the crowd dressed in both an MCC blazer and tie - the full egg and bacon. I'm dubious enough about someone donning that get-up at Lord's, buy why would you go all the way to the Caribbean and dress like a rhubarb and custard? Stokes still getting it to hoop, Ramdin squeezing a drive behind square.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"This is why Test cricket is great because last night the wicket was doing nothing and today it is swinging about. Sometimes Sometimes conditions change between sessions and as a player you have to be able to adapt."
WI 193-5 (Samuels 95, Ramdin 10)
Grenada is picture perfect - straw-brown wicket, lush green outfield, blue sky and sunshine. The cricket is decent too, Jordan testing Ramdin on a decent length, with the skipper then going to the text book for a cover drive when served a wide half-volley. Very watchable, miles better than most of yesterday's action.
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Chris Hedger: 10:40 pm in Langkawi, Malaysia. Sitting in my underpants, dentures in soak and single malt in my hand. I just want to watch cricket but all I hear are moans about 2 great all-rounders, Woakes and Jordan, who both get runs and wickets and would get into any international side. We have a great well balanced side. What do you want?
WI 189-5 (73 overs)
Stokes and Samuels resume their duel as we set yet more replays of Cook dropping Samuels off Chris Jordan. The right-hander had 32 at the time. No sign of any verbals from Stokes yet, he doesn't even appeal when the keeper and slips are up for a caught behind. You should be screaming for them, Benjamin, you never know what you might get. No sign of an edge, mind. Decent start by England with the ball.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"Samuels came past us all at dinner yesterday. He just walked passed me, Swanny and the rest of the TMS team and walked up to the legend Tony Cozier and just said 'Ledge', shook his hand and walked off."
WI 189-5 (Samuels 95, Ramdin 6)
Samuels, chewing gum and pectorals, faces up to Chris Jordan as he hunts down a seventh Test ton. A long hop is a nice start for the batsman, but is well stopped at point. Just a single. Jordan, the shuffler, then hangs the ball outside Ramdin's off stump, starting wide and swinging wider. Three slips and gully, warming themselves under the sort of sunshine you associate with the Caribbean. One from the over. I suspect the Stokes-Jordan duo will take us to the new ball, where Broad and Anderson will take over.
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"England are just waiting for the new ball in 10 overs. Samuels will hope to have his hundred by then but Stokes has managed to have got the ball swinging both ways this morning and he will be hoping to pick up a wicket or two before the new ball."
WI 188-5 (Samuels 94, Ramdin 6)
Stokes tries again in the sunshine as the Barmy Army sing Jerusalem. Creatures of habit, the Barmies. Then again, most cricket fans are. Stokes is getting this old ball to reverse, ducking in to the pads of Ramdin, with the final ball nipping away. Captain Ramdin is fooling no one by pretending he didn't play at that. The new ball is due in nine overs, but the old ball is doing plenty.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"It was worth a gamble and you get two new reviews in 10 overs time. Jos Buttler was about three quarters convinced."
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WI 188-5
Yep, probably the right decision. England were whooping and clapping, even when the replays were shown on the big screen. But, there was nothing to suggest that Ramdin had got bat or glove on it as the ball flew down the leg side. As we were.
Umpire review
WI 188-5
It was short, down the leg side. Ramdin had a waft, taken by Jos Buttler. Can't see this going England's way...
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WI 188-5
No Hot Spot, so there will be no help there. The replays don't suggest that England have got this right. It's hard to see how this will be overturned.
Umpire review
WI 188-5
First ball, England think they have success. Gloved down the leg side? Umpire says no. Let's have a look...
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Simon Hodgson: Stokes is a batting all-rounder. That he can bowl quickly is a bonus but he isn't more than a 4th seamer at the moment.
Chris Parker: Can people just bear in mind Stokes is 23, at that age McGrath's bowling average was 42.
Philippa Dasher: Stokes is a very aggressive, talented bowler- he has Test class quality and huge potential, from what I see.
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Right then, after a hour-long delay, we are about to get some cricket. Put the stress ball away, settle in and pretend you're doing some work. Ben Stokes has the ball, Denesh Ramdin is on strike. Three slips...
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Jonathan Agnew
BBC Test Match Special
"We have got some blue skies above, the sun is shining and the umpires are heading out. Alastair Cook is leading out the team and the fans are on their feet and applauding."
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Wonderfully, the sun is shining in Grenada and the England bowlers are out going through some looseners. Ottis Gibson, the bowling coach, has a baseball mitt on. I wonder if there's a practical part of the interview for the role of bowling coach, where you have to demonstrate your competency with a mitt?
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Sam in Wokingham: Whatever you do don't watch highlights of 2005 Ashes. It's a mistake. All it does is highlight just how far behind we are. I'm all for being positive, and I think we have plenty of talent - but nowhere near enough bravery and belief, both at player and selector levels. How can all of us keyboard activists see the errors, but the powers can't?
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I'm enjoying this chat about following the live text in the office, it has me in mind of the lengths we go to in order to keep in touch with the Test match. Being dragged on a shopping trip and watching the TV in Dixons, holding your mobile in the air to get a signal. Aged 14, I was on a school trip in France and phoned home to get the Test score. Had to explain to my sister that Ceefax page 341 had the scorecard. I thought she was mistaken when she said Alex Tudor had made 99.
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Richard: Amateur hour from Jacob (15:21), there. I have spent much of my working life mastering the art of live text viewing on the company's time. Live text in a separate browser, minimise that window, learn your keyboard shortcuts (windows button + D to clear screen) and be vigilant!
Tim: Jacob (and other slackers) you need to import data from web, on the Data menu...
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Cook's just dropped Samuels again, too. Bit slow to move to his right, the skipper.
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Just watching some replays of yesterday's action. A second look doesn't make Moeen Ali's bowling any better.
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Tom Buckley: Philippa Dasher (15:13). It doesn't matter how fast you bowl it's where you're aiming. You have to make a batsman work for his runs.
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Richard: People talking about England's determination to pick all-rounders the whole time who aren't good enough at either batting or bowling, which is a criticism I wholeheartedly agree with. Jordan, Stokes are just not good enough to help bowl out an Australian batting line up twice in five days. However, the bigger point is, how on earth is Broad still in the team. He is an "all rounder" whose bowling is probably the worst of the whole attack and who, by his own admission, can no longer bat against fast bowling. How can he still be automatic choice? I really don't understand. Time for big change in this England team.
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Jacob, in a previous live text, a very helpful chap got in touch to say there is a way to link a live text directly to a spreadsheet, so that entries go there and make it seem like you're doing some work. I don't remember the exact details, but perhaps the same whizz could remind us of the trick? Obviously I don't condone slacking, want you to work hard, expect everyone to pay attention in double maths class etc etc.
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Jacob: Can you make a live text feed where it is office friendly so anyone who walks by or overlooks doesn't see pictures and big logos. Blowing my cover here.
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Philippa Dasher: Rob in Salisbury (14:52) reckons Stokes isn't Test class. Stokes was bowling 85-91mph, can't imagine there are many quicker county bowlers.
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News. Good news.
Play will begin at 15:45 BST, providing there is no more rain. There were 98 set to be bowled today, but we have lost eight of them.
So, that's about half an hour for you to fill before there is cricket to entertain us. Another innings of office cricket, then maybe a brew. Send an email and make a phone call, just to make it look like you're doing some work.
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BBC Radio Test Match Special
The TMS team have decided it's time for a game of corridor cricket too, with coverage of 5 live sports extra switching to the County Championship game between Glamorgan and Surry, where some bloke called Pietersen has made a half-century.
Remember, every single ball of county cricket will be live on the BBC this summer.
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Alan: England's issue is the selection of so-called 'all-rounders' who aren't good enough at either discipline to get in the side. Chris Jordan isn't in the top 10 seamers in the country, but he can bat a bit, so he gets picked. James Taylor must be considering polishing up that off-break because clearly a plethora of first-class runs doesn't get you a place as a batsman anymore. Stokes can bowl a bit though, so...
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Neil Foot: Can you do a live text "replay" of the 2005 Ashes or something during this rain delay? I need occupying.
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Excellent news if you need a distraction. The covers are coming off. Maybe give yourself 10 more minutes of office cricket. You know the drill - stress ball, maybe an umbrella for a bat and bin as stumps. Automatically out if you hit the ball into the boss's office. One hand, one bounce.
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"Against a West Indies attack without Taylor you have got to fancy your chances. With Gabriel, Roach and Holder those types of bowlers should be good for Alastair Cook."
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There's a couple of frustrating things about this lack of cricket. Firstly, a glance out of the window tells me that the weather in Salford - not renowned for its cricketing suitability - is better than in Grenada. Secondly, I fully understand that the Test match provides excellent distraction from a day in the office/school/mortuary. Without the cricket, there's a serious danger of some work having to be done.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"I do not think a single ball Stuart Broad bowled would have hit the stumps and that is poor from a player like Broad. England have got into these positions far too many times over the last few years. I do not see the bowlers bowling enough balls asking the batsman if they have a good enough technique to play a proper forward defensive."
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Rob in Salisbury: Is this the strongest XI England could put out? In my view, not even close. Jordan is a fine player but is not in the top 10 seamers in the country. Stokes isn't a test class bowler. Broad needs a rest - he's mentally shot. Moeen isn't fit. Trott is scared of fast bowling. Cook is totally out of touch. Even ignoring KP, this is never the best XI we have got - nowhere near.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"We were debating last night who had the best of the day. I think the West Indies to have got to 188-5 will have been delighted - especially with the ball swinging and being put into bat. If you are swing bowler you have to try and get it swing it to hit off-stump. The batsman yesterday were missing so many balls that would have hit fourth or fifth stump and that was the problem."
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There's that ethereal haze hanging over Grenada again, covering the hills that surround the ground. The seats inside are very sparsely populated, spectators almost outnumbered by the amount of England flags that hangs from the walls. The raining is easing, but the wind has dropped. When the players do get out, it looks a good time to be bowling.
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Dave in Chester: Aggers is right, England did miss an opportunity. Throughout the day they consistently bowled too short. Look at the Hawkeye of Broad's first spell - not a single ball would have hit the stumps. It doesn't take too much to realise that if you remove two of the ten methods of dismissal completely, you're going to find it harder to bowl a side out.
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I have a huge sense of deja vu. At this time yesterday we were getting excited about seeing some cricket, only to be disappointed by the rain. Then, we waited for almost two hours for some action, so let's hope it's not the same again.
At the moment, there's no sign of anything happening.
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Graeme Swann
Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special
"I think England's tactics were spot on. If you leave Samuels be and let him get on with it, he 's a very good player, if you get into this head he can't help himself."
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Michael Vaughan
Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special
"Ben Stokes is an aggressive type of cricketer, who tries to makes things happen. His battle with Samuels was exciting. Otherwise the pitch made it dull."
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BBC Radio Test Match Special
We've got official confirmation that the start has been delayed, but that hasn't stopped the Test Match Special boys hitting the airwaves from the Caribbean.
You can listen here online, on 5 live sports extra, Radio 4 longwave or via the various BBC apps.
Stokes responds to Samuels
Flame-haired all-rounder Stokes has had the chance to respond, saying he won't stop offering advice, even if it is spurring batsmen on.
"It's just the way I play cricket," said Stokes. "You get into a contest and you get fired up. I think people enjoy seeing that back home. There's a lot of passion and you can get fired up.
"We're not going to stop. We are all very aggressive cricketers. We're playing for our country and we'll be coming hard whoever it is. If Marlon wants to say something like that we're not going to stop."
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So what about this rumpus between Stokes and Samuels? For most of his innings, Marlon seemed barely awake, let alone interested in a verbal joust. Then, a part-Geordie, part-Kiwi volley from Stokes jolted Samuels into life, both with his gob and bat.
"It's obvious the English boys don't learn because whenever they talk to me I continue scoring runs," said Samuels at the close. "But they keep on talking.
"I guess they can't help it. I kept on telling him that but I probably have to tell him something different because he's not listening.
"He keeps talking to me but it keeps me motivated and keeps me batting."
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To make up some time for yesterday, we were due to begin at 14:45 BST, but rain is again falling in Grenada. The covers are on and there are no players to be seen. We won't be starting on time.
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Alan Compton: With the early wicket and the overhead conditions, England should have bowled them out yesterday. Too short, too many free runs.
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So, if we're considering opinions, they I want to hear yours. Did England miss a trick on day one, or should they be reasonably happy with their lot? And what about Samuels having a pop at their sledging after his handbags with Ben Stokes? Are you happy to see England showing some fire or are you fed up of their chatter? Text 81111, tweet using the hashtag #bbccricket or email tms@bbc.co.uk.
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The facts are as follows. The Windies will begin day two on 188-5, much better than their earlier 129-5 thanks to an unbeaten 94 from Samuels.
It could have been better for inconsistent England had they not dropped three catches and a return of five wickets in a day shortened to 70 overs was probably the minimum they wanted after choosing to field first.
All in all, pretty even, which is where we begin today.
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And there are plenty of opinions floating around on the first day of the second Test between West Indies and England in Grenada.
Some say England will be happy enough, others that they were frustrated by Marlon Samuels. Jonathan Agnew reckons they missed an opportunity, while Geoffrey Boycott isn't happy with the pitch.
The conclusion? Not sure.
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There's an old saying that goes something like this: "opinions are like noses - everyone has got one".
I think there's a slightly more vulgar version in the film Dirty Harry, but there's no need for that on a Wednesday afternoon.