Lord Patel says: "I know I need to take people with me and people need to learn themselves. Azeem said it was like water off a duck's back because it happened every day.

"It pains me it is prevalent in cricket. Cricket gave me an escape in life when it was tough, now I have to work out an action-orientated way forward. With politicians involved, you represent people and constituents have said we are not having this."

Hutton is asked about the report again.

"When the original scope was set out, there were two issues," he says. "What the investigation team and panel were going to look at from Azeem, and whether Yorkshire CCC was institutionally racist.

"I don't know when the panel was told not to report on the second bit, they did that without my knowledge."

Lord Patel adds: "If I was a chair of an organisation and set the clear terms of a reference on an inquiry, if this was changed I would want a board meeting immediately to find out why."

Hutton is asked what Yorkshire's response was to the Black Lives Matter movement and the murder of George Floyd.

"There was no immediate response to that," he says. "The reality was the players debated amongst themselves what stance they should take.

"They wore a logo on their shirts. The real opportunity was when Azeem, really only half a dozen weeks later from George Floyd's death, made his statement.

"That was our opportunity to get to grips with the situation and develop change."

Hutton is also asked where he thinks we would be, had the DCMS committee had not intervened.

"I am not very clear," he says.

He adds he wonders whether Lord Patel would have been given the support he has had the committee not got involved.

Anti-racism and anti-fascism campaign group Hope Not Hate have released a statement on today's proceedings.

"Watching Azeem Rafiq talk about the racism he has experienced has been heartbreaking," said chief executive Nick Lowles.

"When racism is not taken seriously, or dismissed as ‘good natured banter’, there are real consequences. People get hurt.

“But what is most troubling is that what Azeem Rafiq has experienced is not an isolated incident, in cricket or across sport more generally.

"Over the years, we have heard countless accounts of people being racially abused in sport, and despite many campaigns to tackle the problem head on, the same issues crop up time and time again.

"This is an opportunity to stand in solidarity with Azeem and run racism out of sport, once and for all”.

Hutton is asked if it alarmed him so many people refused to give evidence.

"Yes," he replies. "I don't know the number and it is clear who didn't come forward but one of the difficulties is that you cannot compel anyone to come forward.

"I am glad we did the investigation, it has shone light on Yorkshire CCC's culture. I don't agree with everything in it."

Hutton is asked if the findings of the Yorkshire racism report surprised him.

"Yes," he says. "I was shocked and surprised.

"On the subject of publication of the report, there are a number of complexities. There is a strong warning of confidentialities. You cannot publish until everyone waives their rights in it.

"Barristers said you cannot publish the report, under legal advice, in the way that we would have liked."

Hutton is also asked how far sporting success drowns out disquiet at Yorkshire.

"Certainly in my time there, Yorkshire has not has much sporting sucess, so I don't think it drowned it out," he says.

"The more South Asian players you can introduce, the more talent you are producing and the more successful you are likely to be."

He is then asked if senior or star players get leeway or preferential treatment when allegations are made. Are they treated differently?

"I have not witnessed or seen that, so I cannot help."

Is it more difficult to discipline then?

"I wouldn't say so. In my experience at Yorkshire, I wouldn't say so."

Roger Hutton is asked if he was aware there was racism at the club before he took the post.

"I wasn't aware of specific allegations but I knew the club had a history where the question kept being asked," he says.

He is then asked if he made tackling racism a priority.

"To be candid with you, my first desire was to improve the culture at the club more broadly, rather than in relation to discrimination specifically," he says.

It is put to Lord Patel that senior England players - "the big names in the dressing room" - must not be allowed to set the culture.

He says: "Azeem said you watch your heroes and emulate what they are doing. They need to come round the table now and have a say. I am a social worker so I want to take those skills and say be honest and truthful.

"There is an education and awareness process. I struggle with the idea of the two-day education course you are forced to go on will change anything."

Lord Patel is brought back into proceedings by the panel of MPs.

He says: "This is about culture and culture change.

"I have seen a combination of things, just days into my tenure. Talking to people, y,ou see denial, you see phenomenally hard-working people who have given their lives to the club, you see people terrified and completely stressed, you see a lot of sadness. "We are all going to have to go on a journey to change that.

"I am going to have to be an active chairman. This is an organisation that has been hammered left, right and centre. The hurt Azeem has gone through, others have gone through as well.

"By golly, we have to move on it quickly. There are too many people and staff suffering."

Hutton says he created an independent investigation into the governance of the club. He is not sure if the 40 recommendations from that have been done.

"I think there are two or three things for the club still to do and I think that is very important," he says.

Hutton also says the club has a "culture of the past".

"The CEO resigning is not going to change the culture of the club," he adds.

Azeem Rafiq spoke powerfully about the challenges facing cricket, and how in order to change and move forward, the sport will need to listen to those who have suffered.

Ex-Yorkshire chair Roger Hutton describes the challenges he faced at the club.

"It was hard to get them to do anything you wanted to get them to do," he says. "There were a series of meetings from 17 August, a host of emails and things weren't done."

Hutton is then asked if there is anyone working at Yorkshire who is capable of "grasping this nettle".

"I have been to the club only a limited number of times," Hutton says. "It is hard for me to evaluate the personalities of the people there.

"I am thrilled Lord Patel is there. The non-executives were very supportive of my position at the time and they can definitely bring change."

Roger Hutton is asked why no players or staff have been sacked by Yorkshire as a result of the Rafiq inquiry.

"I had no executive authority in my role," he says. "If you're specifically talking about Gary Ballance, I wasn't involved in the investigation or disciplinary process.

"The panel concluded he had not racially harassed Azeem.

"The club took advice from a different set of lawyers, who said although there was a clear need for education and training, there weren't grounds for sacking him."

• More from Hutton in his previous BBC interview on this subject

Lord Patel is asked if he would have sacked Martyn Moxon and Mark Arthur.

"If I was there at the time, if the evidence was such and bringing the club into disrepute, as a chair you have the responsibility and I would have taken that responsibility," he says.

New Yorkshire chairman Lord Patel is asked to step forward by select committee chair Julian Knight MP.

"I don't think for one second I would be sat there having gone through a process that was transparent and legal," he says.

"I have only met one of the Colin Graves trustees and they were reasonable and understanding. "She, along with another trustee, would be held to account for making a decision which affected finances 50 years on and could be sued. They have to be careful about decisions they make."

Hutton says: "One of my difficulties as chair is that I cannot remove someone from the board without permission from the Colin Graves Trust [which finances the club]."

Hutton is asked who, precisely, he wanted to remove and what the Colin Graves Trust said.

"I would have liked to have removed Mark Arthur and Martyn Moxon," he says.

"Not because of the conduct that is referred to in the report but as a consequence of their failure to understand the gravity of the situation, their failure to apologise and their failure to move on the recommendations the panel put forward."

Hutton says he also thought the head of HR should be removed.

Hutton speaks about the resistance he experienced in the Yorkshire boardroom.

"There were a number of signals throughout the process," he says. "I was asked by the CEO [Mark Arthur] to abandon the process and investigation.

"An employment tribunal had been settled and the CEO did not want to apologise. I said Azeem Rafiq would be part of the process of healing and reconciliation and was told he would not be welcome.

"There were isolated incidents like this throughout the investigation.

"When the report was produced on 17 August, there was a clear resistance to see Azeem as a victim and clear resistance to apology.

"There is not one defining moment and I saw resistance and it accumulated.

"I believed that the club's culture was in the past and needs changing, my resigning was not going to change that, (being on the board) that would have been done from within."

• BBC Sport is approaching Yorkshire for comment on further evidence heard in today's DCMS session

Earlier in today's hearing, Azeem Rafiq spoke emotionally about his treatment at Yorkshire following the stillbirth of his son in 2017.

He told the committee that the day after his son died, Yorkshire director of cricket Martyn Moxon "ripped shreds" off him in a manner he had never seen Moxon address anyone else at the club.

Hutton is asked if Moxon and Arthur are "cowards".

"The two executives have found the whole process very difficult. They have failed, in my view, to accept the gravity of the situation," he says.

"They have not wanted to apologise or take the recommendations of the panel going forwad.

"Rafiq made a very powerful point about this being an opportunity for the club to change. That is what I and the non executives has seen it as from the start, but the club has failed to take it."

• BBC Sport will be approaching Yorkshire for further response to today's evidence