Postpublished at 08:05 Greenwich Mean Time 8 November 2014
Robbie Hunter-Paul
Former New Zealand international on BBC Two
"It is a great game - it is international class, with both teams throwing everything at one another."
FT: New Zealand 16-14 England
Nightingale (2), Vatuvei for Kiwis
Hall (2) and Charnley for England
England relying on other results to make final
Jonathan Jurejko
Robbie Hunter-Paul
Former New Zealand international on BBC Two
"It is a great game - it is international class, with both teams throwing everything at one another."
Jordan W:, external We have no chance of beating New Zealand by 10 points
Ed Salinger:, external Please can the commentators stop banging on bout 10pt margins, beating NZ in NZ plenty tough enough. Samoa will give Oz a game too
Gareth Walker:, external Jumping around the living room all morning. Another proper half of international #rugbyleague. Still fully in this
Jamie Peacock
Former England captain on BBC Two
"The frustration for England is that their errors have been schoolboy errors - and then for 10 minutes you are on the back foot and trying to get your way into the game. I have been there - it is very difficult."
How we feeling England fans? Plenty of encouragement for Steve McNamara's men, despite the scoreline, battling back from that hammer blow of an opening Kiwi try within seconds of the start.
But as things stand they will need a favour from Samoa against Australia tomorrow if they can't turn this deficit into a 10-point win...
A Kiwi forward pass gives England another sneaky set before the half-time hooter. England creep forward, Liam Farrell aggressive pumping into the opposition line, but is held about a foot short of the whitewash.
Cue a whirling wail of noise from the stands that is masquerading as the half-time hooter.
And survive they do! But is down to a Kiwi mistake rather than resolute defending. That man Shaun Johnson causes carnage again, this time with his hands, bursting to his right before trying to pick out an isolated Jason Nightingale. But the winger cannot make the ball stick as it squirms out into touch.
Big chance for the Kiwis just before the break. They are gifted another set inside the England 10m zone as another Shaun Johnson bomb causes all sorts of collateral. Sam Tomkins is equal to the gather, but scuffs his play-the-ball. Tomkins protests to referee Phil Bentham but the fault is all his.
Then, Tom Burgess is punished for a high shot on Martin Taupau - another set for England to survive....
John Kear
Ex-England and current Wales coach on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra
"The contrast in styles is great. England have loads of ball runners and lead runners, whereas New Zealand are playing more direct and are majoring on field position and set completion. England are playing the more expansive rugby but are having more of the set completion."
New Zealand roll forward again, but let England off the hook about 30 minutes out. Kiwi forward Tohu Harris makes a hash of the play the ball to hand the ball back to the visitors. Relief.
Debbie Bullock:, external Watching with my son at LGI Children's Hospital second weekend in a row.
Former England international Tulsen Tollett:, external Interesting stat from Ian Millward re Gareth Widdop who hits the posts with goal kicks more than any other in #NRL #4Nations #bbcrl
New Zealand attack again, momentum shifting the way of the hosts. Another Shaun Johnson spiral arrives - so high that it almost smashes the stadium's roof - but Sam Tomkins keeps his eye on the ball to brilliantly gather.
Ian Millward
Former Super League and Australian NRL coach on BBC Two
"Isaac Luke created that try. He dragged the middle defenders in, before going to Shaun Johnson and although he thought about kicking, he passed and the main men were in command."
Brian Noble
Former Great Britain coach on BBC Two
"Ryan Hall showed a lack of positivity there - he needed to go out of the line earlier. England have been masters of their own downfall there."
Jonathan Butler:, external Great effort so far by by England! Keep up the pressure lads
Eric Stewart:, external So far @England_RL well on top, need to keep this going for the full 80
Ant:, external Great game so far. Really enjoying it. Lots of action.
Despite all that pressure, it is advantage New Zealand. England's line is dragged right and Shaun Johnson's quick ball right finds Dean Whare, who sidesteps the line-breaking Ryan Hall to put in the head-bandaged figure of Jason Nightingale for his second try. Simple.
England, sniffing out blood, go for the try line once again. Full-back Sam Tomkins appears on the right, but tries an ambitious offload which is snaffled by Kiwi captain Simon Mannering. Here comes another New Zealand wave...
Dave Woods
BBC Sport commentator
"Brian Noble does a jig of delight and England take the lead!"
Brian Noble
Former Great Britain coach on BBC Two
"Manu Vatuvei is too in-field and Josh Charnley held his line, he wasn't going to miss from there. How good is Sean O'Loughlin? Put that try down to O'Loughlin's vision."