'I know how to solve the Irish border issue'
Stanley Johnson, Boris Johnson's father and an ex-Conservative MEP, and journalist Ella Whelan have differing opinions on Brexit.
So the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme has brought them together for lunch.
How did they get on when they discussed the Irish border?
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