Uncertainty persists for Ukrainianspublished at 04:14 British Summer Time 16 August
Jonathan Beale
Defence correspondent, reporting from Kyiv

Families of Ukrainian prisoners of war and activists hold a rally outside the US Embassy in Kyiv
There are not high hopes here in Ukraine about these talks, not least because the Ukrainians are not present.
Tonight, we know that Russia has launched more drones at Ukraine. It's been shelling towns and villages near the front line, and Ukraine has had to move more forces to the east to stop a Russian advance.
President Zelensky has said there is no evidence that President Putin wants to end this war. He says the real test of these talks is whether they lead to a path for a "just peace".
As far as he's concerned, that means Ukraine being represented in negotiations.
So far, Putin has refused to meet Zelensky. He doesn't even recognise him as the country's legitimate leader.
That is why you've got Zelensky saying he's "counting on America" - he's not there, and he doesn't trust Putin. He will soon find out whether he can rely on President Trump.