Aoife Walsh
Live editor

We're wrapping up our coverage of Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg now, but there's still plenty to read across the BBC on the topics discussed this morning.

We heard Starmer discuss his government's decision to strip the winter fuel payment from millions of pensioners – telling Laura he has to make "tough choices" due to the economic instability inherited from the Tories.

Laura says Starmer's "blame the Tories" strategy will not hold forever – read her full analysis.

Starmer discussed a review into the NHS by an eminent surgeon, Lord Darzi – due to be published on Thursday. Read more from Laura and BBC Health editor Hugh Pym on the expected findings.

We've put together a quick summary of all the key lines from today's programme in our earlier post, but you can also hear more of Laura's post-interview thoughts in the latest episode of Newscast on BBC Sounds.

This page was edited by Aoife Walsh and Emily Atkinson. It was written by Ben Hatton, Cachella Smith and Gabriela Pomeroy. Thank you for joining us.

Sticking with BBC Radio 5 Live, callers are sharing their verdicts on the government's decision to make winter fuel payments for pensioners means-tested, which will take the benefit away from millions.

Dennis Reed, from Silver Voices, a campaign group for senior citizens, says millions of older people will struggle, saying he is aware of people who last winter only heated one room and couldn't afford to use their own ovens.

James Kirkup, a senior fellow at the Social Market Foundation and a partner at the lobby firm Apella Advisors, says he thinks the government is having "communication difficulties".

“We should do more to address fuel poverty," he says, but says there are "better ways" to address that than a universal payment to pensioners paid for by workers when "you are more likely to be in poverty if you’re working".

Keir Starmer talked about the need to reform the NHS during his interview with Laura Kuenssberg earlier.

Ahead of a report on the state of the health service being published later this week, callers to BBC Radio 5 Live Breakfast have been sharing their experiences with the NHS:

Louise Law, a tutor from Hampshire, was on an NHS waiting list for two years waiting for a knee operation and eventually decided to go private.

She says most people have "lost faith in the NHS and our politicians" and that it feels like the country is returning to "pre-war inequality".

"Keir Starmer talks about hard lessons and how things will get worse before they get better," she says, but asks "why is it always the poor" who pay.

Anastasia, who has been on a waiting list for four years, says: “The NHS is no longer the envy of the world. I used to be a Labour member and now I feel voiceless, deflated.”

Next, Wes Streeting is challenged on the government's plan to reduce the number of pensioners receiving winter fuel payments.

It's put to him that the poorest people are going to be the coldest, but Streeting insists they will be protected.

He tells BBC Radio 4's Broadcasting House programme that the state pension will continue to rise in line with the cost of living, and pensioners will still get free prescriptions.

He concedes that this has not been "a popular decision" and that he's "sorry about that", but adds: "We need stable public finances."

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Earlier, Prime Minister Keir Starmer shared some of the findings from an upcoming report on the state of the NHS in England, due to be published on Thursday.

Over BBC Radio 4's Broadcasting House programme, Heath Secretary Wes Streeting has also been discussing Lord Darzi's report, which he warns will be "stark."

"We need to start to flatten the curve of cost and demand" to make the NHS more sustainable in the long term, he says.

One of the focuses will be childhood obesity, he says, as well as supervised tooth-brushing in schools, more physical activities in schools and phasing out smoking.

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That's the show done for another week. Here's what we heard:

• Keir Starmer defended his government's decision to strip the winter fuel payment from most pensioners, saying his government is "going to have to be unpopular" to deliver change
• The PM said he was frustrated by how “slowly” the process of making buildings safe has been in the wake of the Grenfell Tower fire. Work will be accelerated, he sayid, but didn’t give a completion date
• He said although racism did play a role in the summer riots, he does not believe the UK is a racist country. He also said he is “worried about the rise of the far right”
• Shadow security minister and Tory leadership candidate Tom Tugendhat said his party lost the confidence of the British people and he believes he has a track record to show he is the person to change that
• The UK should seek to reform the European Convention on Human Rights, Tugendhat said, and be prepared to leave it if that cannot be achieved
• Actress Kate Winslet said women should celebrate being a "real shape", reflecting on the filming of Lee

Stay with us for more analysis and reaction.

After hearing from the panel for a final time, the programme ends.

We’ll be bringing you a summary of the key lines shortly, and there's more analysis on the way too – stay with us.

We're hearing now from actress Kate Winslet – she's speaking to Laura about an interview she gave recently, where she spoke of being told to sit up straighter to hide her “belly rolls” while on set for film Lee.

“It’s interesting how much people do like labels for women,” Winslet explains, adding that it was her job "to be like Lee [Miller]”, who worked as a war correspondent during World War Two.

"She wasn’t lifting weights or doing Pilates. She was eating cheese, bread and drinking wine, and not making a big deal of it. So of course, her body would be soft," she says.

“We’re so used to perhaps not necessarily seeing that and enjoying it."

Winslet says it's a conversation that needs to be had and that women should celebrate “being a real shape”.

“Life is too short,” Winslet tells Laura. “I don’t want to look back and go why did I worry about that thing and so guess what I don’t worry anymore.”

Laura now fires a series of "yes" and "no" questions at Tugendhat.

Would he bring back the Rwanda scheme, she asks.

We need a deterrent, he tells her.

She then asks if he thinks too many people go to university. He says we need more people to have an education in many different ways - whether that's through university or apprenticeships.

"I would rather have more apprenticeships," he says.

She asks what the most Conservative thing is about him.

He laughs, and says family is the most important thing to him.

"I think that's the most Conservative thing about many of us," he adds.

And with that, his interview is over. We'll bring you a reflection on the key lines shortly.

Laura pushes him again on whether he would campaign to leave the European Convention on Human Rights, but Tugendhat avoids addressing the question directly.

He instead says he wants to "derogate from" certain aspects of the convention, "to leave parts of it", saying other countries have done that.

He also says "we need to reform it", saying if it cannot be reformed they have to be prepared to leave.

We need a Conservative revolution in four years' time, Tugendhat now tells Laura.

She asks if would take the UK out of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), something he has pitched as part of his bid for the party leadership.

I want to leave parts of it, he says, and we need to reform it.

The convention has changed over the years, he says, and we need to be prepared to leave it.

We're now hearing from shadow security minister and Tory leadership hopeful Tom Tugendhat – he is the first of the leadership candidates Laura will be interviewing over the coming weeks.

Tugendhat says his party lost the confidence of the British people, saying he is standing to offer leadership that is fundamental to restoring that trust.

Asked why he's the person to do that, he points to his track record, saying he has spent 25 years serving the country in the military and in politics, and says he has a record of "actually delivering".

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Next to face Laura is Tom Tugendhat, one of five MPs left in the contest to be the next leader of the Conservative Party.

A former officer in the Territorial Army, who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, the 51-year-old father of two is generally seen as a centrist, but has sought to boost his credentials with right wing MPs by taking a hard line on immigration.

He previously lost a leadership race against Liz Truss. This time round he has pledged to "make the Conservative Party a serious force again".

Tugendhat has previously served as security minister in the Home Office in the Truss and Rishi Sunak governments. He is currently shadow minister for the same role.

He has also previously served as chairman of the Commons’ foreign affairs committee, where he was highly critical of the West's withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021, and raised concerns about threats from China.

• The PM wouldn't say if he would suspend Labour MPs who vote against his plan to reduce the number of pensioners receiving winter fuel payments, and said his government is "going to have to be unpopular"

• Starmer said he was frustrated by how “slowly” the process of making buildings safe has been in the wake of the Grenfell Tower fire, saying the work will be accelerated – but he didn’t give a completion date when challenged

• He said racism did play a role in the summer riots, but said he does not believe the UK is a racist country. He also said he is “worried about the rise of the far right”

• On whether his decision to suspend some arms sales to Israel had gone down badly with the White House, he said US understands there is a different legal system in the UK

• An independent review of the NHS, due to be published this week, will show the NHS needs reform, Starmer said

• And he dismissed criticism that he removed a picture of ex Tory PM Margaret Thatcher from his No 10 study, saying it wasn’t personal, he just prefers landscapes
• He also revealed the name of the new Downing Street pet, a Siberian kitten called Prince

Laura asks Starmer about the latest addition to No 10 - a Siberian kitten.

"It was a long summer of negotiations, Laura," he jokes, adding that the new pet was part of a deal he negotiated with his children for moving to Downing Street.

The prime minister also reveals the kitten - until now unnamed in public - is called Prince.

And with that, the interview is over. We'll be wrapping up the key lines here shortly, so stay with us.

Laura now asks about a portrait of former Conservative prime minister Margaret Thatcher being taken down in the No 10 study since Starmer took up residence.

Is that a bit petty, Laura asks.

The PM says he uses the room where it was hanging for reading, saying the decision was not about Thatcher but that he doesn't like images of people staring down at him.

"I like landscapes," he says, laughing. "This is my study, it's my private place where I go to work, I didn't want a picture of anyone."

It's not personal and "she's hanging elsewhere in the building", he says.

Shifting now to the upcoming US presidential election, Laura asks Starmer if he's "relieved and excited" that Kamala Harris is the new Democratic nominee.

The prime minister says it's "good to see" the US election developing.

"As the prime minister of the United Kingdom, I will deal with whoever the American people elect in as their president," he adds.

The coming weeks and months are "critically important" for both Ukraine and the Middle East, Starmer adds.

He mentions again his upcoming visit to the White House, telling Laura he plans to discuss Ukraine and the Middle East, and their shared response.

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The PM is asked now about his decision to end some arms sales to Israel. It's not made the UK very popular with the US, its closest ally, Laura says.

"You're wrong about that," Starmer tells her, adding the US is "very clear" it has a different legal system and it "understands the decision that we've taken".

The PM says he's heading to the White House next week because the situation in Ukraine is becoming "ever more pressing, as is the situation in the Middle East".

Starmer adds he's had a "number of discussions" with US President Joe Biden and other Nato allies about the "tactical decisions we have to make in relation to Ukraine and the Middle East".

"We’ve coordinated a lot of our messaging, coordinated our action, as you’d expect," he says.

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Hugh Pym
Health editor

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We've just been hearing Starmer speak about a report into the state of the NHS, which is due to be published on Thursday.

His government’s immediate message on taking office was that the NHS is broken, with Health Secretary Wes Streeting arguing that patients and staff had been let down.

To follow that up, the surgeon and former health minister Lord Darzi was asked to carry out a rapid review.

As one source put it, this was to provide the diagnosis so that a longer term cure could be worked out.

Some of his report has been put out early by the government ,with eye catching findings on long waiting lists for children and Darzi’s conclusion that there were “real concerns” over the ability of the NHS to deliver quality care.

But there will be much more in the report to be published in the next few days. What will it say, for example, about over stretched GP services? Or retention and recruitment of staff?

It will undoubtedly set out more problems and challenges. The question is how long Labour can keep blaming the Conservatives and when scrutiny will turn to their own performance against NHS targets.

Laura moves to a report by surgeon and independent peer Lord Darzi on the state of the NHS in England - due to be published on Thursday.

She asks if Starmer can share anything about it.

He says the report makes "really clear that the NHS is broken but not beaten" and identifies several reasons for this, including spending cuts and the pandemic.

"His diagnosis, my conclusion is, the only way out of this now is reform," Starmer says, outlining his hopes to secure the NHS's future.