Cleverly asked about Reform battlepublished at 09:49 BST
Kuenssberg repeats her first question: "Do you see the battle with Reform on the same terms as the prime minister?"
Cleverly says Reform is "very, very good at headline-grabbing" and takes aim at the BBC for being "very compliant when it comes to covering what they say."
But he adds that the party's "the policies fall apart" when you look at the details.
"[They have] no plan for delivery".