Starmer: Reform wants to tear country apartpublished at 09:22 BST
Starmer says that he is arguing against Reform because the party wants to "tear the country apart", referring to the party's plans to scrap Indefinite Leave to Remain.
Kuenssberg asks him when he realised the political left was "getting it wrong on immigration".
Starmer says he believed that 10 years ago but he side steps the question, and insists there is work to do but Labour only came to power one year ago.
He says the party is taking measures to tackle illegal immigration and there have already been "35,000 returns" since coming to power.