'I don't know why' aide used that word, Cleverly sayspublished at 09:17 British Summer Time 23 June
Laura continues to press him on the clip, emphasising that one of the members of his own team said the policy was "crap".
Cleverly again says he did that to "grab the attention of the audience", saying that Sunderland is committed to the policy and that he did also say in that same clip that the "deterrence" will dissuade the people-smuggling gangs
Why he picked that word, I don't know, Cleverly adds.