Summary

  • Health Secretary Wes Streeting told Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg that Elon Musk's attack on Jess Phillips over grooming gangs is a "disgraceful smear"

  • Streeting also defended his adult social care reform plans, insisting it will take time to turn around "14 years of failures"

  • Reform UK's leader Nigel Farage said that despite his support from Musk, they "don't have to agree on everything"

  • Farage also doubled down on his defence of Musk, saying he believes in free speech even if it's offensive

  • Shadow Home Secretary Chris Philp said Elon Musk was right to raise the issue of the grooming gangs scandal but adds the language he used to describe Phillips was "not appropriate"

  • If you missed out on the action, you can click Watch & listen at the top of the page or head to BBC iPlayer to catch up with this week's show

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Streeting: Musk's attack on Jess Phillips 'a disgraceful smear'

  1. Guests share 2025 resolutions to get UK - and themselves - into shapepublished at 09:11 Greenwich Mean Time 5 January

    Laura begins by asking Wes Streeting and Chris Philp about their New Year's resolutions.

    Streeting says he wants to cut NHS waiting list times and get into shape after eating, in his words, too many mince pies over Christmas. Philp says he also wants to work out more, as well as spending less time on devices.

    However, the friendliness ends there, with Philp saying he also wants to hold Labour to account for its broken "lies and broken promises", to which Streeting congratulates Philp on a "big bout of hypocrisy".

    Nigel Farage, meanwhile, says he is focussing on dry January but admits it would be a "miracle" if he gets past the upcoming inauguration of Donald Trump.

  2. Who is on the panel?published at 09:05 Greenwich Mean Time 5 January

    Samuel Kasumu on panel of Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg sitting down in chair wearing a dark suit without tie

    Kuenssberg will analyse this week's hot topics, as well as comments from Wes Streeting and Nigel Farage, with her panel guests.

    This week they are:

    • Alan Johnson, former Labour home secretary under Gordon Brown, and MP for Kingston upon Hull West and Hessle between 1997 and 2017
    • Nicola Ranger, general secretary and chief executive of the Royal College of Nursing
    • Samuel Kasumu, a former adviser to Boris Johnson who resigned in 2021 amid a row over a government-commissioned report on race
  3. And we’re on the air!published at 09:01 Greenwich Mean Time 5 January

    The studio is prepped, the guests are ready, and Kuenssberg is about to open her first show of 2025.

    We’ll be bringing you live updates and analysis from today’s programme.

    To follow along Kuenssberg's interviews with Wes Streeting, Nigel Farage and Chris Philp, just click Watch live at the top of this page.

  4. 'Time to get to the truth' - shadow home secretarypublished at 08:59 Greenwich Mean Time 5 January

    Chris Philp delivers speech standing in front of lectern wearing black suit, white shirt and light blue tieImage source, PA Media

    As we mentioned earlier, the Conservatives have also joined calls for the government to launch a full inquiry into failures to protect girls from sex abuse by men of Asian origin.

    Shadow Home Secretary Chris Philp, who's appearing on Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg in the next hour, told the BBC earlier this week it is now time for a national inquiry.

    He says the inquiry needs to have powers to "compel witnesses to come forward", to get "to the truth".

  5. Why does social care reform matter?published at 08:45 Greenwich Mean Time 5 January

    Elderly man in shirt and blue trousers is helped by a nurse to sit on a tartan armchair. The nurse, wearing a white uniform shirt and dark trousers, stands next to the chair with her left arm behind the man's back as he lowers himself down, and her right arm in front of him. The scene takes place in front of a large window which faces a gardenImage source, Getty Images

    Adult social care means help for older or disabled people with day-to-day tasks such as washing, dressing, medication and eating.

    Only those with the most complex health needs get social care provided free by the NHS, so most care is paid for by councils.

    In England, only people with high needs and savings or assets of less than £23,250 are eligible for that help, leaving a growing number of people to fund themselves - paying hundreds of thousands of pounds for their care and potentially having to sell their own home as a result.

    Last year's review of the NHS highlighted that the “dire state of social care means 13% of NHS beds are occupied by people waiting for social care support or care in more appropriate settings,” draining vital NHS resources.

  6. Streeting defends timescale for social care reformpublished at 08:31 Greenwich Mean Time 5 January

    Wes Streeting walking out of a building while carrying a red government folder under his left arm. He's wearing a blue suit with a white shirt a dark blue, patterned tie. To his right, in the background, is a black iron gateImage source, Getty Images

    Also joining Laura later this morning is Health and Social Care Secretary Wes Streeting, who has been making headlines this week after plans to reform adult social care in England came under scrutiny.

    An independent commission on social care reform is set to start in April, with the first phase - focusing on key issues and medium-term changes - set to report by mid-2026.

    However, the second phase of the assessment on how care services are funded long-term won’t report until 2028 - one year before when the next general election must be held.

    Councils and care providers have said the timeline is too long for vital services already on their knees.

    But Streeting defended the plan, saying the process “would take time” while insisting that Labour had “done a lot in the first six months” of its government.

  7. A membership row, donation negotiations and a partial break with Muskpublished at 08:16 Greenwich Mean Time 5 January

    Composite image of Tory leader Kemi Badenoch (left) at a microphone and Reform UK leader Nigel Farage seated with hands clasped.Image source, EPA

    While we wait for Laura Kuenssberg's full interview with Nigel Farage to go on the air, here's a brief recap on how the Reform UK leader made the headlines in recent weeks:

    • On Boxing Day, he said Reform’s membership had overtaken the 131,680 figure of signed-up members declared by the Tories earlier in 2024
    • After Tory leader Kemi Badenoch dismissed the number as “not real”, Farage demanded an apology. He then described her as a "ranting conspiracy theorist" at a party conference in Chelmsford yesterday
    • Farage’s ties with Elon Musk drew attention as the billionaire voiced strong support for Reform. He previously said his party was in “open negotiations” with Musk over potential donations
    • Despite defending Musk for criticising Keir Starmer, Farage has distanced himself from the tech billionaire over his support for far-right activist Stephen Yaxley Lennon, also known as Tommy Robinson

    Farage has since reported Reform UK had surpassed 170,000 subscribers, external during Saturday's party conference

  8. Farage defends Musk after grooming gangs criticismpublished at 08:09 Greenwich Mean Time 5 January

    Nigel Farage wearing a suit and clasping his hands as he speaks to Laura Kuenssberg, Behind him, blurred, are tables covered in white cloth and lamps

    Nigel Farage has defended Elon Musk after the billionaire criticised the government's response to grooming gangs.

    Musk accused Keir Starmer of not prosecuting gangs, and said safeguarding minister Jess Phillips "deserves to be in prison".

    Now, Farage tells Laura Kuenssberg - in an interview to be broadcast later - that Musk used "very tough terms", but praises him for changes to X - saying "free speech was back".

    The Conservatives and Reform UK want Labour to conduct an inquiry into failures to protect girls from sex abuse by men of Asian origin.

    Phillips denied Oldham Council's request for an inquiry into historical child sexual abuse, saying the council should lead it.

    The Reform UK leader says the public is "absolutely right to be" angry about grooming gangs.

    "I just think people ask themselves, what has happened to our country? How could this possibly have happened? Why did everybody want to cover it up? Why has there been no full public inquiry?" he tells Laura.

    • You can read more about the upcoming interview here
  9. Welcome to the first show of 2025published at 08:02 Greenwich Mean Time 5 January

    Lana Lam
    Live reporter

    Laura Kuenssberg in hot pink blazer and white sleeveless blouse with her arms crossed to her chest. Mid-shot cuts off below the waist as she stand in front of a carton model of the House of Parliament and other UK landmarks and pastel blue and pink background screen

    The Christmas tree’s been packed away and your new year’s resolutions may have fizzled out as quickly as the celebratory bubbles. But here, it’s full steam ahead as we kick off 2025 with the return of Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg.

    Top of the discussion list with Health and Social Care Secretary Wes Streeting will be Labour’s plans to reform adult social care, which faced criticism after it emerged that proposals for long-term funding probably won’t be ready until 2028.

    Kuenssberg will also speak with Reform UK leader Nigel Farage, whose party was described as "the only hope" for the country by billionaire Elon Musk, and shadow Home Secretary Chris Philp.

    We’ll be bringing you live updates and analysis throughout the show so, grab a cuppa and settle in.

    You can follow along with Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg by clicking Watch Live at the top of this page from 09:00 GMT.