Summary

  • Patrick Lahey, the chief executive of Triton submersibles - a leading manufacturer of deep sea crafts - testified at the Titan inquiry on Friday

  • "I don't believe that we should be operating experimental vehicles in the deep sea," he said

  • The hearing also heard from Antonella Wilby, who worked as a contractor for OceanGate, the company behind the Titan, who chose to leave the mission early

  • Earlier the public hearing into the implosion in which five people died last June heard from an OceanGate mission specialist, a paying passenger taken on an expedition to see the Titanic

  • "It was clear that it was dangerous," Fred Hagen says, but adds "you don't do [a dive] because it's safe, you do it because it's an adrenaline rush"

  • Dave Dyer, an engineer from the University of Washington's Applied Physics Lab, tells the hearing he originally thought the sub could be viable

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New Titan footage shows wreckage of destroyed hull on sea floor

  1. Seven takeaways from Rojas's Titan testimonypublished at 17:20 British Summer Time 19 September

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    They were happy to go, that's the memory I have - Titan sub mission specialist

    Mission specialist Renata Rojas has finished giving her testimony to the hearing - let's quickly look back at the key takeaways from what she has said today:

    • Rojas told the public hearing her role is a volunteer position and is someone who stands by until someone needs help
    • She admits she was aware the Titan submersible was not classified or registered and that its nature was for exploring
    • "I knew the Titanic dive was risky, but I never felt unsafe," she told the hearing at Charleston County Council, South Carolina
    • Tearing up at one point during her testimony, Rojas recalled seeing "five people smiling" as she described their final moments before going into the Titan and disappearing below the water surface last year
    • She described the rescue efforts and protocol detailing that the team went into "go mode" when the Titan did not return on its scheduled time
    • Rojas likened the Titan to the famous Apollo space programme and in a final closing statement she said she hopes "innovation continues"
    • "Without taking that risk and the exploration, the world would still be flat," she added
  2. 'What we have all gone through is still very raw'published at 17:01 British Summer Time 19 September

    Rojas once again was emotional as she made a personal statement at the end of her testimony.

    After a long pause while she tried to compose herself, a recess was suggested. But Rojas insisted she would continue.

    “What we have all gone through is still very raw," Rojas said.

    “Nothing is going to bring our friends back.

    "I hope that this investigation creates an understand that, with exploration there is risk. And without taking that risk and the exploration, the world would still be flat.

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    I hope that innovation continues, so that we can make the oceans accessible to people like me – who got to fulfil a dream.”

    She goes on to say that marine expeditions are “significantly underfunded” and that she hopes private citizens will continue to fund them.

    The hearing has now taken a recess, after which Dr Steven Ross – the former OceanGate Scientific Director, will be called as a witness.

  3. 'Nothing is going to bring our friends back'published at 16:56 British Summer Time 19 September

    Renata Rojas has just finished her testimony, giving a final tearful statement that "nothing is going to bring our friends back".

    The hearing is taking another break. Stick with us, we will bring you more of that final statement from Rojas in a moment.

  4. Rojas claims Titan was like Apollo space programmepublished at 16:51 British Summer Time 19 September

    Rojas was just asked about her understanding of the term "experimental".

    She replies that it meant "untested, new waters, completely new… never used underwater vehicles”.

    Rojas says that no classification for carbon fibre subs existed, and that she was not surprised to hear that the Titan submersible was unclassed.

    She claims that this was “similar" to the Apollo space programme.

    "They tested by doing," says Rojas.

  5. Rojas asked if she was aware Titan was not classifiedpublished at 16:45 British Summer Time 19 September

    Next, Rojas is asked whether Stockton Rush (OceanGate's CEO who died when the Titan imploded), or others, ever explained to her the experimental nature of Titan?

    "Yes," she replies.

    Rojas is then asked if she was aware the Titan was not classified - again she answers "yes".

    She tells the hearing she was unaware whether Titan was flagged to any nation.

    Rojas is specifically asked about whether it had been flagged or registered by the Bahamas - to which she says she does not know.

  6. Witness asked about Titan sub maintenancepublished at 16:38 British Summer Time 19 September

    Rojas is next asked if she was aware if maintenance was taking place on the Titan sub when it wasn't diving during the 2023 expedition.

    She replies that people appeared to be working on it from the platform while it was in the water, but she was too far away to verify this.

  7. 'I knew the risk I was taking and still decided to go'published at 16:33 British Summer Time 19 September

    We are back from the recess and Renata Rojas is asked if she felt "empowered to voice safety concerns".

    "Yes," Rojas replies, adding she felt people were heard and OceanGate acted accordingly.

    Turning to specific concerns related to some of her own dives, Rojas is asked about raising issues.

    "I knew the risk I was taking and still decided to go," Rojas says.

    And a reminder that you watch the hearing at the top of this page.

  8. Rojas quizzed on ability to get out of subpublished at 16:24 British Summer Time 19 September

    Before the break, Rojas was asked if a mission specialist was inside the submersible with the dome secured, would they be able to get out?

    "No," she replied.

  9. Background context on Titan's hullpublished at 16:21 British Summer Time 19 September

    There's another short break in the hearing. So let's take a moment to look into some background on the submersible.

    We recently been listening to testimony about the hull on the Titan.

    For context, the sub’s hull was made of carbon fibre, an unconventional material for a deep-sea vessel.

    Metals such as titanium are most commonly used as they are reliable under immense pressures.

    You can see from the graphic below the key weaknesses on Titan.

    Graphic showing the key weaknesses on the Titan submersible
  10. Rojas describes what the monitoring system looks likepublished at 16:17 British Summer Time 19 September

    Renata Rojas, a mission specialist for OceanGate, is asked about what the monitoring system looks like.

    She describes it as similar to an "EKG", which stands for electrocardiogram - the device which visually shows a person's heartbeat.

    As a mission specialist, she says she was able to watch the screen. She tells the hearing it would show spikes.

    "It would mean the monitoring system heard a noise", she says, adding that if someone "knocked on the hull" or a whale was around, it would be picked up on the monitor as the device was sensitive to sounds in its vicinity.

  11. What else have we learnt?published at 16:08 British Summer Time 19 September

    Rebecca Morelle
    Science editor

    Footage from a remotely operated vehicle shows, what the Coast Guard Marine Board of Investigation says is the debris of the Titan submersible that imploded while diving to the wreck of the Titanic, on the seafloor, September 18, 2024, in this screengrab from a handout video.Image source, Reuters
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    Footage from a remotely operated vehicle shows what the Coast Guard Marine Board of Investigation says is debris of the Titan submersible

    The public hearings began with the release of exchanges between the Titan sub and the surface ship.

    These were short text messages sent back and forth during the final dive.

    Communications were a bit patchy during the descent, but a message from the sub about an hour into the dive said “All good here”.

    A little after the passengers gave their location as being above the southeast of Titanic’s bow.

    The final exchange was sent from 3,346m, saying Titan had dropped two weights - it would have released them to slow its descent as it neared the sea floor.

    After that the messages stopped - the sub had imploded.

    The US Coast Guard said that there was nothing in the messages that indicated that the passengers knew the sub was failing.

  12. Rojas asked about incidents on earlier divespublished at 15:59 British Summer Time 19 September

    A log is now shown to the hearing of previous dives involving OceanGate.

    Rojas is asked if there was a safety meeting after a dive in which the dome of the sub fell off.

    She replies that there was, and it was decided that there needed to be better coordination between OceanGate and the crew of the ship from where it was launched.

    Rojas also speaks about another technical incident on a test dive, and she says modifications were made following it to try to improve processes for the future.

  13. Witness says Titan had equipment for 96 hours of life-supportpublished at 15:45 British Summer Time 19 September

    Rojas explains that on expeditions "problems happen".

    "You are in a very remote area, trying to do something very few people can do," Rojas explains, adding that teams have to adapt to situations which unfold in front of them.

    "If you had a problem at the surface, you were at the surface," Rojas says.

    Rojas then explains there was equipment onboard the Titan sub which allowed for life-support for 96 hours.

    She recalls one previous and separate dive in which people stayed overnight on the sub because of bad weather.

  14. Rojas asked about emergency drillspublished at 15:41 British Summer Time 19 September

    Rojas is now asked if emergency drills were run on the Titan submersible.

    She replies that this was done once inside the submersible.

    Drills ranged from showing people where medicine was, to what to do if the pilot became incapacitated, she tells the hearing.

    Rojas is asked whether people were told what to do if the sub was stuck on the ocean floor.

    She replies that there were a number of options available, including releasing the legs or waiting for the tide to change.

  15. 'Fifteen more minutes and we're calling the coastguard'published at 15:36 British Summer Time 19 September

    The testimony turns to the rescue protocol while the Titan was below the surface.

    "Usually they are allowed at least an hour," Rojas says, explaining those in the sub might have asked for more time to explore the Titanic shipwreck if they got there.

    But, Rojas said the conversation turned to the sub being overdue.

    "After another 15 minutes we're calling the coastguard," Rojas recalls conversations onboard the support vessel, as concerns started to rise at 6pm or 7pm local time.

    She adds: "That's what we did. We went into 'go mode'".

    Rojas said she heard nothing or saw nothing while on the bridge as communications with the sub appeared to be lost.

  16. Rojas gets emotional describing passengers leaving ship for fatal divepublished at 15:32 British Summer Time 19 September

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    They were happy to go, that's the memory I have - Titan sub mission specialist

    Renata Rojas is speaking about the day the Titan submersible imploded. She was aboard the support vessel on the surface at the time.

    Rojas speaks about how things were "working very smoothly" on the deck before the submarine began its dive.

    She says she was asked to perform a series of tasks, including holding the bags that held the divers' belongings.

    Rojas then gets emotional about the passengers, saying “they were just happy to go, that’s the memory I have”.

    She then says they went up on the bridge of the support ship when it appeared something might have gone wrong.

    She recalls thinking, “we haven't heard from them, where are they?"

    "They were very close to the Titanic."

  17. 'I saw five people smiling excited for their journey to Titanic' - Rojaspublished at 15:23 British Summer Time 19 September

    Back to the hearing, and Renata Rojas says she was the "platform assistant" on the day of the fatal dive to the Titanic submarine.

    "I was mostly standing around until somebody needed help," she adds.

    Describing the demeanour of the passengers and pilots in the lead up to the dive towards Titanic:

    "I saw five people smiling on the way to their journey," Rojas recalls. "Excited. We had wonderful weather."

  18. Hearing takes another breakpublished at 15:18 British Summer Time 19 September

    We're waiting for the hearing to resume after another short break.

    When it does, witness Renata Rojas will continue with her testimony.

    As a reminder, we also have a live stream of the hearing at the top of this page.

  19. 'I knew Titanic dive was risky, but I never felt unsafe,' mission specialist sayspublished at 15:09 British Summer Time 19 September

    Rojas says she never heard any noises during another previous dive, describing - "you could hear a pin drop".

    "I found them to be very transparent about everything," she adds talking about staff debriefs from OceanGate.

    "Anybody could ask any questions. And if you ask questions like, 'I want to see the monitoring system for these dives'.

    "You felt safe going down to the Titanic after that incident.

    "I knew what I was doing was very risky. I never at any point felt unsafe by the operation."

  20. Crew on 2022 dive thought of doing a 'alt + ctrl + delete' to fix subpublished at 15:03 British Summer Time 19 September

    Rojas continues her testimony recalling experiences from a 2022 dive.

    Discussing solutions to an issue where the sub was not moving, she said they talked about "alt + ctrl + delete" but adds "that could have created some issues". That's a keyboard command commonly used on computers to restart a broken programme.

    "So somebody suggested try to remove the control backwards," she continues.

    "Scott, who was our pilot, did wonderfully at that. We landed 300m away from the bow, we could already see debris when we landed.

    "Questions inside the sub [were] said 'did you want to go up' and we all said 'we're going we are really close'."

    After exploring, she described lights flickering as they were coming up to the surface.

    As the sub was parked it lost its remaining battery life, she adds.