Summary

  • The Duke and Duchess of Sussex were interviewed by Oprah Winfrey for a two-hour CBS primetime special

  • Meghan says one member of the Royal Family had concerns about how "dark" her son Archie's skin would be

  • Winfrey clarifies that neither the Queen nor the Duke of Edinburgh were part of that conversation

  • In unaired footage, Prince Harry says racism from the tabloid press that filtered into the rest of society was a "large part" of why they left the UK

  • He says he has now been "cut off" financially, which is why the couple sought Netflix and Spotify deals

  • Prince Harry reveals their new baby - due in the summer - is a girl

  • In January 2020 the couple had an invitation to visit the Queen at Sandringham suddenly withdrawn by her private secretary, he says

  • Meghan says she found life within the Royal Family so difficult that at times she "didn't want to be alive any more"

  • But she talks about contact with the family - she phoned the Queen after Prince Philip went into hospital last month

  • At a government Covid briefing, Boris Johnson refuses to comment, but says he has the "highest admiration for the Queen"

  • Oprah with Meghan and Harry: A Primetime Special, drew more than 17m viewers in the US

  • The interview is being broadcast in the UK on ITV and on ITV Hub, courtesy of Harpo Productions/CBS

  1. 'Greater than any fairytale you've ever read'published at 03:20 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Oprah asks Harry what "delights" him now in his new life in California.

    Harry replies that he loves his "outdoor space", taking Archie out on the back of his bike, something he was "never able to do".

    "This is just the beginning for us," Meghan adds.

    Oprah asks if Meghan got her happy ending with Prince Harry after all.

    “Greater than any fairytale that you’ve ever read," she says. By leaving the Royal Family "I think [Harry] saved all of us. He ultimately called it. He made a decision that saved my life and saved all of us.

    "But you need to want to be saved.”

  2. Meghan: I believed them when they said I would be protectedpublished at 03:09 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Harry and Meghan are asked whether they have any regrets.

    Meghan says she has one - "believing them when they said I would be protected". She says she believed that.

    But she says now, they have not just survived "but are thriving".

    Oprah asks whether the story with the prince does have a happy ending. "It does," she says.

    She says Harry "saved all of us", and that he made a decision that "certainly saved my life and saved all of us".

    The Duke and Duchess of Sussex attend The Mountbatten Festival of Music in London in March 2020Image source, Reuters
  3. Harry: It all changed after the Australia tourpublished at 03:07 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Harry says Meghan was received "far better than (he) expected" in the beginning of their public relationship.

    He says that the Prince of Wales and the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge were "really welcoming".

    "But it all changed after the Australia tour."

    Australia was the couple's first official royal tour since getting married in May 2018.

    "It was the first time the family got to see how incredible she was at the job. And that brought back memories," Harry says, referencing Diana, Princess of Wales' tour of Australia in 1983.

    This was also referenced in the latest scene of Netflix's The Crown.

    Harry and Meghan say they have watched some of the popular series when asked by Oprah.

    "I just wish that we would all learn from the past," Harry adds.

    Harry and Meghan visit Australia in 2018Image source, getty
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    Harry and Meghan visit Australia in 2018

  4. Money grabbing royals?published at 03:05 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Oprah asks the couple about some of the current criticism they face - that they're "money grabbing royals", funding a life of luxury with deals with Spotify and Netflix.

    Harry and Meghan insist this was "never their intention".

    "We genuinely hadn't thought about it before," Harry says, adding that he was just looking for "enough money to pay for security".

  5. Clear that some relationships are still dreadfulpublished at 02:59 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Jonny Dymond
    BBC royal correspondent

    This is about as bad it might have been for the Royal family, barring direct criticism of the Queen; Harry portrays his family as cold and unsympathetic, unable to relate emotionally, obsessed with who is going to pay for what.

    It’s clear that relationships were and in some cases, still are, dreadful.

  6. Harry on dad Charles: 'I feel really let down'published at 02:56 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Oprah asks Prince Harry what his relationship with his family is like now.

    He says he has spoken to the Queen, his grandmother, more in the last year than he has for many, many years and they have a really good relationship. "She's my colonel-in-chief, right? She always will be."

    Asked about his relationship with his father, Prince Charles - heir to the throne - Harry pauses for a moment.

    "There's a lot to work through there," he says. "I feel really let down because he's been through something similar, he knows what pain feels like... and Archie's his grandson.

    "But at the same time, of course I will always love him but there's a lot of hurt that's happened and I will continue to make it one of my priorities to try and heal that relationship."

    Asked about the relationship with his brother, Prince William, Harry says he loves him to bits and they have been through hell together. "But we were on different paths."

    Prince Charles and Prince Harry in 2011Image source, MoD / Crown
  7. Harry asked by family about baby's racepublished at 02:52 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Oprah asks Harry about Meghan's earlier comments, saying members of the Royal Family had asked about the race of their future children.

    "That conversation, I am never going to share," Harry replies.

    "At the time it was awkward, I was a bit shocked," he says, adding that this conversation took place "right at the beginning" of their relationship.

  8. Harry: Family cut me off financiallypublished at 02:51 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Prince Harry says the Netflix and the Spotify deals were "never part of the plan", he says.

    He says that came from when his family "literally cut me off financially" and he had to pay for security.

    But he says he has the money that his mother left him.

    Prince Harry draws parallels between the treatment of Meghan and his mother, Princess Diana.

    “You know, for me, I'm just really relieved and happy to be sitting here, talking to you with my wife by my side,” he says.

    “Because I can't begin to imagine what it must have been like for her going through this process by herself all those years ago, because it has been unbelievably tough for the two of us - but at least we had each other."

    Harry's late mother Diana, Princess of Wales, relinquished the Her Royal Highness title at the time of her divorce from the Prince of Wales in August 1996.

    She died the following year after a car crash in Paris. The driver had been drinking and the car was being followed by paparazzi on motorbikes when the accident happened.

    The Duke of Cambridge, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and the Prince of Wales pictured in 2019Image source, Getty Images
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    The Duke of Cambridge, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and the Prince of Wales pictured in 2019

  9. Velvet covered dagger into the institutionpublished at 02:49 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Jonny Dymond
    BBC royal correspondent

    Trapped. That’s the word Harry used to describe his life in the Royal Family.

    That’s the impression he gave very often when out and about.

    But he goes on – he says his brother William, his father Charles, they too are trapped. And he feels compassion for them. It is a velvet covered dagger into the institution he has left.

  10. Was Meghan behind Megxit?published at 02:45 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Oprah asks Meghan and Harry about one of the prevailing storylines of the Royal couple: that Meghan orchestrated their exit from the Royal Family.

    "Can you imagine how little sense that makes?" Meghan replies. "I left everything for him."

    She continues: "Our plan was to do this forever."

    Oprah turns to Harry, asking if he would have stepped back from his life in the Royal Family if it were not for Meghan.

    "The answer is no. I wouldn’t have been able to," he says. "I myself was trapped."

    Oprah pushes back - asking how a "literal prince" could be "trapped".

    I was "trapped within the system", Harry replies. "My father and my brother are trapped. They don’t get to leave, and I have huge compassion for that."

    Meghan and HarryImage source, REUTERS
  11. Meghan's life sounds more like a living hellpublished at 02:44 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Peter Bowes
    North America correspondent

    The line from Meghan that she was stripped of her identity - her keys, driver's licence, passport were "turned over" when she joined the Royal Family - may not be the most shocking claim in this interview but it will resonate with Americans.

    This is not the fairytale life of a princess. It sounds more like a living hell.

  12. Royal Family 'scared of tabloids turning on them'published at 02:40 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Speaking about his disappointment that his family did not show Meghan public support, Harry says: "I also am acutely aware of where my family stands, and how scared they are of the tabloids turning on them."

    He said there was an "invincible contract" between the Royal Family and UK tabloids whereby if royals give access to reporters, they will get better press.

    "There is a level of control by fear that has existed for generations."

  13. Harry: It hurt that my family did not show support against racismpublished at 02:38 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Oprah asks about how Harry and Meghan dealt with Meghan experiencing suicidal thoughts.

    "I had no idea what to do, I wasn't prepared for that, I went to a very dark place as well," he says.

    Harry says he did not tell anyone in the family because "that's just not a conversation that would be had".

    "I guess I was ashamed of admitting it to them," he says, adding that it's a very trapping environment.

    "I didn't have anyone to turn to," he adds.

    "For the family, they very much have this mentality of: this is just how it is. This is how it's meant to be, you can't change it, we've all been through it.

    "But what was different for me, was the race element. Because it wasn't just about her, it was about what she represents.

    He adds that for Meghan and Harry, "and the specifics around her race", it was an opportunity for the Royal Family "to show some public support".

    He says the "most telling" parts - and "saddest parts" - was that more than 70 MPs came out and condemned the colonial undertones of headlines and news articles.

    "Yet no-one from my family ever said anything over those three years," he says. "That hurts."

    Britain's Prince Charles, Prince William and Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, Prince Harry and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex attend the annual Commonwealth Service at Westminster Abbey in London, Britain March 9, 2020Image source, REUTERS
  14. Meghan and Harry come across sympatheticallypublished at 02:34 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Jonny Dymond
    BBC royal correspondent

    Harry looks so relaxed, so happy, so comfortable.

    Such a change from the deeply unhappy man he appeared to be in the final year in the UK.

    Meghan and Harry both come across very sympathetically, speaking without rancour but with the utmost clarity about a time in their lives they both clearly bitterly regret.

    This is explosive stuff – raw, revealing and hugely damaging for the palace.

  15. Harry: Charles stopped taking my callspublished at 02:30 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Jonny Dymond
    BBC royal correspondent

    Just slipped into the conversation, as he listed the calls that he made to his family to talk about his future, is that Harry’s father – Prince Charles – stopped taking his calls.

    Did Harry mean to let that slip? Who knows. But it is an insight into how bad things got, maybe still are, in private relations inside the royal family.

    Prince Harry with Prince Charles at the World Premiere of Netflix's Our Planet at the Natural History Museum, Kensington in 2019Image source, Getty Images
  16. Harry: We asked for help but couldn't get itpublished at 02:30 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Harry says his biggest concern while living in Canada was that their security was going to be removed and people knew their location. He adds in a jibe at the Daily Mail newspaper at this point - saying that people knew their exact location "courtesy of the Daily Mail".

    He says the palace's justification for removing security was "a change in status"- but Harry says he "pushed back" and asked whether there had been a change of threat or risk, to which the palace said no.

    They decided to move to California because they felt they were not safe there.

    Oprah asks them what was the tipping point was to their decision to step back as senior royals.

    "It was desperate," says Harry. "I went to all the places which I thought I should go to to ask for help, we both did, separately and together.

    Oprah asks: "So you left because you were asking for help but couldn't get it?", "Yeah, basically," says Harry.

    "But we never left," he says.

    "We never left the family," adds Meghan, saying they only wanted to have a type of role that already exists - a non-senior royal.

    Harry says they wanted to "take a breath" from this "constant barrage".

    Royal Family members on the balcony at Buckingham Palace during the flypast following Trooping the Colour, June 9 2018
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    Royal Family members on the balcony at Buckingham Palace during the flypast following Trooping the Colour, June 9 2018

  17. Harry: My biggest concern was history repeating itselfpublished at 02:27 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Harry said he and Meghan wanted to "take a breath" from "the constant barrage" the couple were facing as working royals.

    "My biggest concern was history repeating itself," he tells Oprah.

    "And what I was seeing was history repeating itself."

    But he said this time it was "far more dangerous" compared to his mother's situation, taking into account the race and social media dimensions.

    He said he asked for help to "call the dogs off" but said none was given, and was instead told continuously "this is how it is".

    The Prince and Princess of Wales with HarryImage source, Press Association
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    The Prince and Princess of Wales with Harry

  18. 'Did you blindside the Queen?'published at 02:26 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Harry denies ever "blindsiding" his grandmother the Queen with his family's departure from senior Royal duties.

    "I’ve never blindsided my grandmother, I have too much respect for her," Harry tells Oprah.

    He says he had three telephone calls with the Queen ahead of the first statement announcing he and Meghan would be stepping back.

    He spoke with his father twice, he says, "before he stopped taking my calls".

    Why did Prince Charles stop speaking to Harry, Oprah asks.

    "Because I took matters into my own hands," Harry replies.

    The Queen and Prince HarryImage source, REUTERS
  19. A devastating allegation for the palacepublished at 02:18 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Jonny Dymond
    BBC royal correspondent

    The allegation that there were discussions in the palace about how dark Meghan’s first baby might be is a devastating one.

    This is heading into ‘worst-case scenario’ territory for the palace.

    It is worth remembering we are currently only getting one side of the story. And Meghan has not revealed who said that to Harry. But it is a horrible allegation for the palace to deal with.

  20. Harry announces they are having a baby girlpublished at 02:15 Greenwich Mean Time 8 March 2021

    Meghan and Harry announce they are having a baby girl.

    Harry says his first thought was "amazing" and feeling "grateful".

    We've got our family, he says - "the four of us and our two dogs".