Summary

  • Ex-Post Office boss Paula Vennells has denied the company's executive team, which she led, shielded the board from "dirty laundry"

  • She tells the Post Office inquiry she felt "very strongly" about the Post Office board being able to challenge her

  • Vennells has also denied that concerns from her media adviser about negative news coverage influenced her decision on whether to review five to 10 years' worth of past prosecutions

  • On Wednesday, she acknowledged evidence she gave to MPs and colleagues in one meeting about prosecutions of sub-postmasters wasn’t true

  • This week is the first time she has publicly spoken about her role in the scandal for nearly a decade - press play above to watch the session

  • Between 1999 and 2015, more than 900 sub-postmasters were prosecuted because of the faulty Horizon system

  1. Vennells read self-incrimination warningpublished at 09:51 British Summer Time 22 May

    Sam Hancock
    Reporting from the inquiry

    It's fair to say there's a lot going on in here.

    Some rows in front of me, counsel to the inquiry Jason Beer walked in and placed some papers at the spot from where he has been grilling many former Post Office bosses and advisers.

    To my right, former sub-postmistress Seema Misra has just hugged her lawyer and had a quick conversation with him before today's proceedings get under way. Remember, she was wrongly jailed while she was pregnant.

    And to my left, where there's a door marked "staff only" - it's where people giving evidence are brought in and out of the inquiry room - Paula Vennells has just walked in.

    Having been sworn in, inquiry chair Sir Wyn Williams reads Vennells a warning about potential self-incrimination.

  2. Vennells sworn in as inquiry gets under waypublished at 09:48 British Summer Time 22 May

    Former Post Office boss Paula Vennells is being sworn in to give evidence on the first day of her three-day appearance at the public inquiry.

    Stay with us as we bring you what she has to say - remember, this is the first time in a decade that she has spoken publicly about the Horizon IT scandal.

    You can watch live by pressing Play above.

  3. Jailed former sub-postmaster says she wants the truth from Vennellspublished at 09:47 British Summer Time 22 May

    Seema Misra outside the inquiry, holding a sign which says "Justice"Image source, PA Media

    Former sub-postmaster Seema Misra, was jailed after being accused of stealing £74,000, has called on Paula Vennells to tell the truth.

    Asked if she believed what the inquiry has heard was truthful Misra said she did not believe so.

    Misra, who ran a Post Office in West Byfleet, Surrey, was pregnant when she was sent to prison in 2010.

    She told the BBC News channel she wanted to understand why Vennells had not done more when Post Office chief executive to fix the wrongful prosecution of sub-postmasters.

    On Vennells telling MPs in 2015 she'd seen no evidence of any miscarriage of justice, Misra said:

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    Let's see what she's going to say today. She's the second chance to tell the truth, so let's see."

  4. Hello from a very busy inquiry roompublished at 09:34 British Summer Time 22 May

    Sam Hancock
    Reporting from the inquiry

    Paula Vennells - the former Post Office chief executive who earlier this year returned her CBE over the furore that was sparked by ITV's drama Mr Bates vs the Post Office - is already here at Aldwych House.

    She made her way through a press scrum to get inside the inquiry building and is likely now going through some last-minute preparation with her legal team before being sworn in.

    The level of interest in the first of Vennells’ three days of evidence is clear from the number of people here - it’s absolutely packed. I've been to the inquiry quite a few times now and I've never seen it this busy.

    Among the crowd of people watching today are a number of former sub-postmasters and postmistresses - I can see Janet Skinner, Lee Castleton and Seema Misra as I type this post.

  5. Paula Vennells has been mentioned many times at the inquirypublished at 09:29 British Summer Time 22 May

    This might be the first time Vennells has given evidence to the inquiry herself, but we’ve heard plenty about her from other former employees.

    Most recently, former Post Office IT head Lesley Sewell said she blocked Vennells’ number after the ex-chief executive sought help to avoid an independent inquiry.

    In April, former top in-house lawyer Chris Aujard said Vennells ignored calls from her top team to halt sub-postmaster prosecutions.

    We also saw an email in which her husband suggested using the word “anomaly” or “exception” to refer to faults with the Horizon system, as they are both “less emotive” than the word “bug”. An inquiry lawyer branded this "absolutely Orwellian".

    We’ll find out over the next three days whether Vennells will now be asked about any of these things directly.

  6. Inquiry waiting for Vennells to appearpublished at 09:27 British Summer Time 22 May

    Emma Simpson
    Business correspondent, at the inquiry

    We’re in the hearing room early and it’s already filling up.

    Real sense of anticipation here, waiting for Paula Vennells to appear.

    Sub-postmasters just hope she’s going to give them some answers. Janet Skinner told me she felt quite nervous for her.

  7. What has the inquiry heard so far?published at 09:23 British Summer Time 22 May

    Campaigners outside Aldwych House, central London, where the Post Office Horizon IT inquiry is taking place. Picture date: Wednesday May 22, 2024.Image source, PA Media

    This phase of the inquiry has seen some senior Post Office executives grilled by lawyers about the Horizon scandal. Here are some of the things we learned:

    • Top lawyer Brian Altman KC, who was paid by the Post Office to review sub-postmasters’ convictions knew about a "tainted witness" but failed to investigate, report it to the police or disclose it to defendants, the inquiry heard
    • Former senior Post Office lawyer Jarnail Singh denied that he knew about bugs in the Horizon system, which inquiry counsel Jason Beer said was a "big fat lie"
    • Former PR boss Mark Davies conceded that it was possible to access the Horizon IT system remotely
    • Earlier, former executive Angela van den Bogerd said executives did not "cover up" the knowledge that the computers of sub-postmasters could be accessed remotely
    • Another important figure is Gareth Jenkins, a former senior Fujitsu engineer who made a false statement to court about the flawed Post Office IT system, which helped wrongly jail pregnant postmistress Seema Misra
  8. Vennells evidence important for victims - former sub-postmasterpublished at 09:16 British Summer Time 22 May

    Former Post Office worker Lee Castleton outside the Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry at Aldwych House, central London, where former boss Paula Vennells is due to start giving evidence today. Picture date: Wednesday May 22, 2024.Image source, PA Media
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    Former Post Office worker Lee Castleton outside the inquiry today

    Former sub-postmaster Lee Castleton tells the BBC that he is looking forward to hearing from Paula Vennells at the inquiry shortly.

    Speaking to Radio 4's Today programme, he says that hearing from the former Post Office CEO is important to enable people affected to move on.

    Asked if her demeanour while appearing matters to him, Castleton says he isn't looking for an apology from Vennells, but to lay out her side of the story.

    "I think the days have gone a long, long time ago that it makes any difference to me personally... I'm just looking forward to the truth."

  9. Who played Vennells in ITV’s ‘Mr Bates vs The Post Office’?published at 09:09 British Summer Time 22 May

    Earlier this year, ITV dramatised what is now commonly termed the ‘Post Office scandal’. The series began airing on 1 January with Vennells one of the key figures portrayed within the four-part series.

    Actress Lia Williams played her role within the drama.

    Other television series that Williams has appeared in include The Crown and she was also nominated for the BAFTA Awards in 2005 for her role in May 33rd.

  10. WATCH: Moment Vennells arrives at inquiry to media scrumpublished at 09:05 British Summer Time 22 May

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    Watch: Press surrounds ex-Post Office boss Vennells as she arrives

    Former Post Office CEO Paula Vennells arrived at Aldwych House this morning to a swarm of photographers and press.

    Watch the moment she arrived at the inquiry in the clip above.

  11. Vennells was stripped of her CBE over the Horizon scandalpublished at 08:59 British Summer Time 22 May

    CBE medalsImage source, PA Media

    Paula Vennells’ name is three letters shorter than it used to be.

    She was awarded a CBE for services to the Post Office and to charity in the 2019 New Years Honours list.

    This was immediately controversial to some, since hundreds of sub-postmasters had already launched legal action against the Post Office at the time. Amid mounting pressure, Vennells said she’d hand her CBE back in January 2024.

    Then, in February, the Cabinet Office said she had been formally stripped of her CBE for “bringing the honours system into disrepute”.

    The timing of this was no mystery.

    Vennells announced she’d return her CBE less than a week after Mr Bates vs The Post Office finished airing on ITV, and one day after a petition, which called for the honour to be forfeited, reached one million signatures.

  12. In pictures: Press scrum as Vennells arrivespublished at 08:49 British Summer Time 22 May

    It was a bit of a scramble at Aldwych House in London for the arrival of Paula Vennells, who had to be escorted from her car by police officers.

    She was greeted by crowds of journalists shouting questions and photographers taking pictures of the former Post Office CEO when she got there this morning.

    Former CEO of the Post Office Paula Vennells (C) arrives at the Post Office inquiry in London, Britain, 22 May 2024Image source, EPA
    Police officer helping move a photographer in front of Paula VennellsImage source, Reuters
    Several photographers stand in front of Vennells with theri cameras raised, as a police officer moves them asideImage source, Reuters
    A man and a woman stand holding a sigh which says: "Justice for Subpostmasters"Image source, PA Media
  13. A reminder of the Post Office scandalpublished at 08:43 British Summer Time 22 May

    A post office on a high streetImage source, Getty Images

    More than 900 sub-postmasters were wrongly prosecuted for stealing because of incorrect information from a computer system called Horizon.

    The Post Office itself took many cases to court, prosecuting 700 people between 1999 and 2015. Another 283 cases were brought by other bodies, including the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS).

    Many sub-postmasters went to prison for false accounting and theft, and several were financially ruined.

    In 2017, a group of 555 sub-postmasters took legal action against the Post Office. In 2019, it agreed to pay them £58m in compensation, but much of the money went on legal fees.

    A draft report uncovered by the BBC showed the Post Office spent £100m fighting the group in court despite knowing its defence was untrue.

    The Post Office said it would be "inappropriate" to comment on the report.

    Although campaigners won the right for their cases to be reconsidered, only 102 convictions had been overturned by March 2024. The Criminal Cases Review Commission said the scandal was "the most widespread miscarriage of justice", it had seen.

    The Metropolitan Police is also investigating the Post Office over potential fraud offences.

  14. Key questions for ex-Post Office boss Vennellspublished at 08:33 British Summer Time 22 May

    Emma Simpson
    Business correspondent

    When did she know accounts could be accessed remotely?

    The Post Office always claimed sub-postmasters' branch accounts could not be remotely accessed without their knowledge. Once it became known that Fujitsu, the company responsible for the Horizon system, was able to do this, it undermined every prosecution case and civil claim the Post Office had brought.

    Did she lie to Parliament in 2015?

    Paula Vennells went on to tell MPs on the business select committee in 2015 that she had seen no evidence of any miscarriages of justice. But two years earlier barrister Simon Clarke warned the Post Office there were problems with past prosecutions. He said this was because they’d relied on evidence from Gareth Jenkins, the Fujitsu IT engineer who failed to disclose to the courts that he knew about bugs in the system.

    Was anyone pulling her strings?

    There’s one key bit of context to all this. The Post Office is owned by the government, which has a representative on its board. There’s an awful lot we don’t know about what went on between ministers, top civil servants and the decision making during her leadership, a crucial phase when the alleged cover-up was in full swing.

  15. Who is Paula Vennells?published at 08:23 British Summer Time 22 May

    Paula Vennells, pictured in 2013 Alt tag: Headshot of former Post Office boss Paula Vennells sitting in an office at a desk smiling at the camera. Picture dates to 2013.Image source, PA Media

    Paula Vennells, 65, was the Post Office’s chief executive between 2012 and 2019, earning a total of £5.1m while leading the organisation.

    Prior to joining the Post Office in 2007 as a group network director she had served as an ordained priest. In 2017 she was interviewed for the position of Bishop of London.

    After leaving the Post Office, she was a non-executive board member at the Cabinet Office for a year and also became chairman of Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust.

    She left this post at the end of 2020 citing personal reasons for doing so. In 2021, she relinquished her clerical duties although she remains an ordained priest today.

    She also handed back her CBE earlier this year following a public petition that called for her to be stripped of the honour.

  16. Analysis

    The biggest day of the inquiry so farpublished at 08:21 British Summer Time 22 May

    Emma Simpson
    Business correspondent

    It’s the biggest day so far for this long running inquiry.

    Paula Vennells was Post Office CEO from 2012 to 2019. Hundreds of sub-postmasters had already been prosecuted by the time she was promoted to the top job.

    But under her leadership, the Post Office continued to deny the Horizon IT system was to blame, despite all the mounting evidence. Victims have long believed there was a cover up, which prolonged the scandal for many years.

    Vennells has previously said she was truly sorry for the devastation caused to the sub-postmasters and their families and that she was focussed on fully supporting and co-operating with the Inquiry. Her main witness statement runs to nearly 900 pages including the index of all the documents that have been put to her to comment on.

    She’ll be grilled for three days, the longest run of questions any witness has faced so far.

    Neil Hudgell, the lawyer who represents many wronged sub-postmasters says this week’s evidence is of “monumental significance” to his clients.

    They just want finally to hear the truth and many of them are travelling hundreds of miles to be here. There are 180 or so seats in the hearing room itself and the overflow area. But there are unlikely to be any spare chairs here today.

  17. Post Office inquiry to hear from former CEO Paula Vennellspublished at 08:20 British Summer Time 22 May

    Emily McGarvey
    Live editor

    Paula Vennells, former Chief Executive Officer of the Post Office, arrives at Aldwych House, where the Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry continues, in London, Britain, May 22, 202Image source, Reuters

    Paula Vennells, the former Chief Executive of the Post Office, will today begin giving three days of evidence at the public inquiry into the Horizon IT scandal.

    It's the first time she will have publicly spoken about her role in the scandal for nearly a decade.

    Vennells was promoted to CEO in 2012. By then hundreds of sub postmasters had already been prosecuted, but under her seven years of leadership the Post Office continued to deny the Horizon IT system was to blame, despite all the internal evidence piling up.

    So, it promises to be an interesting day at the inquiry - stay with us as we bring you all the lines and analysis.