It’s Not Always Black and White podcastpublished at 15:49 British Summer Time 6 April 2021
BBC Radio Stoke
A new podcast of intimate and hilarious conversations about race, love and the grey spaces in between has launched on Tuesday on BBC Radio Stoke and BBC Sounds.
Each episode features married couple Matt Hodson, 39, born and bred in Solihull and a commercial manager for a railway company, and Bongi Msimanga, 34, born in southern Africa, now living in Shropshire and a journalist with the BBC for seven years.
The questions are demanding, sometimes brutal, and the answers always raw and often comical.
Like many interracial couples during the growth of the Black Lives Matter movement, they found themselves talking about race in a different way.
They'd never really talked about racism as an institution or what it meant for their marriage. They'd fallen in love with each other's differences. But those differences were now creating fault lines through their relationship and between friends and family.
New episodes of It's Not Always Black and White will be updated weekly on all podcast platforms.