Analysis: Is South Yorkshire devolution dead in the water?published at 13:47 British Summer Time 18 September 2017
James Vincent
Political Editor, BBC Look North
Anyone fancy electing a mayor that will have no power whatsoever? No? What if I told you it'll cost us more than £1m? Still no?
That's where we are in South Yorkshire at the moment, a £900m devolution deal appearing dead in the water after two of the four councils involved voted against the proposal.
Today's meeting between the county's council leaders was a quick end to the lingering idea that Sheffield, Doncaster, Barnsley and Rotherham might actually agree with each other.
We're left with no extra money or power, and quite possibly an elected mayor that will just be another suit in the room.
Doncaster and Barnsley say their decision to end a South Yorkshire devolution deal and seek a wider Yorkshire one is not a gamble.
But when the government says that it just won't happen, the odds look pretty stacked against them.