'Blaming junior officers'published at 13:13 Greenwich Mean Time 17 March 2015
Judith Moritz
North of England correspondent, BBC News
Police Federation barrister Paul Greaney suggests David Duckenfield has been "shifting blame to junior officers".
He says other witnesses who've given evidence on the issue have said it was Mr Duckenfield's responsibility to monitor the pens.
Mr Greaney asks: "Does it come down to this. Whatever anyone else has said about this issue, you know best?"
Mr Duckenfield replies: "No sir, I don't."